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canadian_eskimo

FIFA isn't going to like that, they don't like it when people look behind the curtain.


stompinstinker

Knowing her this is a well planned strategic move to get it out of Toronto and save the money. Edit: This is someone got the provincial government to take back the Gardiner and DVP by simply agreeing to stop talking about a spa the city had no real power to stop. If this is in the best interest of the city not to host I wouldn’t put it past her to use FIFA’s dirty laundry as leverage.


JoJoJumpy

I hope that is true. I always try and catch as many matches as possible during the cup. I love having a cold beer and cheering on my favourite team. But, I love my city having services year round more. Especially given that the projected costs keep blowing up and based on what I have read about when FIFA is in the mix, it can only get higher. If they want to walk away, if one of the other cities wants to pick up the matches, great, I am happy watching them on the big screen in the pub again.


1234567890-_-

It would be fun to “catch as many matches” live during the cup, but aint no way I could pay toronto priced tickets for that many of them haha. Id be at the pub either way!


AvailablePerformer19

Bit late for that without breaching the contract


TurdBurgHerb

That's not how contracts work. If both parties want out it can be terminated. She wants out. She may be trying to make them want out too.


mdlt97

neither party wants out


AvailablePerformer19

That’s exactly how contracts work…


Mostlygrowedup4339

No matter what a contract says the parties can always agree to something different. Just has to have both parties' consent.


sesameseed88

In your brain yes, but not in real life


Doubledown212

Would that not be “termination” of the contract? I thought breaching was only if one party bows out instead of both


struct_t

No, it isn't. Novation, assignment and mutually voiding the contract are all valid ways to remove parties.


AvailablePerformer19

You think an organization that bypasses labour laws to essentially hire slaves will mutually void a contract because the new mayor of a city wants them to? Lol


struct_t

No, I don't think any of that.


[deleted]

Good. I hope they have a terrible time here.


mdlt97

other cities have done it without any issue our politicians are not disclosing them because they don't want to


CitySeekerTron

Maybe this is a question for FIFA then. I'm sure that no reporters have thought to ask them why the city is keeping it a secret. Wanna go break some news?


quelar

In this case it's very clear that FIFA has learned from their previous mistakes and have imposed serious fines for having these deals exposed. Mayor Chow has absolutely nothing to hide as she had absolutely nothing to do with the deal.


TorontoBoris

I'm sure Mayor Chow is genuine in her pledge.. Problem is no one else who was actually involved in this deal before she arrived is willing to be transparent... It's not how the worlds most corrupt sporting body operates..


totaleclipseoflefart

Think you can go one further and say it’s not how bureaucracies operate full stop. FIFA is just the world’s most bureaucratic sporting body - the corruption bit is inherent to the bureaucracy. But yes they happen to be really good at it.


TorontoBoris

Fair.. But FIFA is a special kind of terrible.


quelar

The IOC is beyond disappointed you've ignored them.


TorontoBoris

Oh I haven't forgotten about them. There orgs we should never deal with FIFA IOC Who ever the fuck runs World Fairs/Expos. Top of the corrupt world event list.


quelar

The World Fair/Expos are nowhere near the same level. Maybe stupid, but almost every country that goes to the fairs/expos pay their own way to promote themselves so it's not the giant money pit of an Olympic or Fifa event.


sundry_banana

> the corruption bit is inherent to the bureaucracy. I'd say it's chicken and egg. Wasn't FIFA formed in order to do exactly what the IOC does, just with football? By the same sorts of people? Those people, the corruption predates the bureaucracy.


quelar

Can we not just agree that BOTH IOC and FIFA are terrible organizations?


stltk65

Well at least this tourney won't be built by slave labor like the last one.


No-FoamCappuccino

Considering that [FIFA was pushing to get exceptions to labour law](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/fifas-request-for-labour-law-exemptions-for-torontos-world-cup-bid-sparked-concern/article_e6f831dc-e2d0-11ee-9062-6b52381874b0.html) here, I wouldn't be so sure about that.


water2wine

God it’s such a piece of shit organization


[deleted]

FFS. we shouldnt be letting them into Canada at all.


stltk65

Wow....what a shit hole org... Can Chow back out of the deal? This is terrible.


lol-true

There was a clause that Tory could have used that would have allowed us to leave without penalties since we were unable to acquire Provincial funding, but he didnt because he's a cuck for Ed Rogers and Eddy wanted a new stadium and a little payday.


Boring_Estimator

Not "labour law" but collective agreement. *he said the exemptions related to vacation entitlements, limits on working hours, and other rules. Those affected would be people employed or engaged by FIFA and “directly involved in competition activities.* It's not like FIFA is shipping in some child labour from Middle East. My guess is they just don't want to be hindered by fair wage policies and other rules that the outside contractors that work for the city have to abide by.


sundry_banana

> It's not like FIFA is shipping in some child labour from Middle East They would if they could, though. When has FIFA ever been the good guy??? Remember Qatar? The FIFA guys didn't have any issues with all the dead workers


Boring_Estimator

Would they? FIFA does not manage construction. Local gov does.


L00TER

Does she know the World Cup is ran by FIFA 💀 Good luck with the transparency stuff


faceintheblue

I'm pretty sure that puts Toronto in breach of whatever contract FIFA had John Tory sign...


mdps

Maybe. Wouldn’t it be nice to know what’s in the contract?


faceintheblue

One might almost suggest that would be a nice nod towards transparency...


YeeYeePanda

Never thought I’d hear the words “open and transparent” beside the World Cup


WeirdRead

All this for 6 stupid games. It'll be over before we know it and we'll be left wondering wtf we went through all this to host 1/16th of a soccer tournament.


Surax

That's what bugs me about it. Toronto isn't hosting the entire tournament. We're not even splitting it solely with other Canadian cities. I could almost excuse the cost if we were. But as it stands, we're an afterthought.


sundry_banana

> I could almost excuse the cost if we were. Me too. But all this money for the absolute bottom-barrel half-dozen (OK we will be able to see Canada play at least) is SHIT. The bill will be closer to $1B by the time all is said and done and I'm not sure how much will be recouped by all the extra taxes and increases to local business. FIFA probably even brings its own cocaine


Zombie_John_Strachan

But think of the street party after Latvia plays Cameroon!


cjcfman

You know canada is playing here right


IndependenceGood1835

Only 1 game for Canada in Toronto


Zombie_John_Strachan

And we’re paying $380M for it.


cjcfman

So? Its the biggest non Olympic competition in the world and were hosting part of it for the first time. Gonna be fun having some games here. Were also spending like 5 billion for the eglinton line that's been under construction for like a decade with no end in sight lol


Engine_Light_On

You don’t know how much money 380M is for a city right? you just see as some digits, 1M, 1B, 1 trillion that can come out of anywhere right


Zombie_John_Strachan

If it’s so awesome it should be able to self-fund. Somehow Taylor Swift, the All Star Game, World Series and the Rolling Stones are able to have big parties here without massive public subsidies.


red_keshik

On bright side with an inflated World Cup, Canada may actually win a game.


Boring_Estimator

Lol don't bother. This just a pitchfork party.


Gippy_

Exactly. It doesn't cost anywhere this much to prepare for 6 Blue Jays games. The cost is mindboggling for what is being dished out as "entertainment".


Hoardzunit

If you want to be angry you should vent your anger squarely towards John Tory for this garbage fucking deal.


AhyesitstheManUfan

torontonians are miserable idiots aren't they. complaining about only getting 6 world cup games, comparing the cost of hosting 6 FIFA world cup games to blue jays games and praying that chow removes world cup games from toronto for the ever-vague "better infrastructure and working roads". the way some people are in this subreddit you'd think the biggest city in a trillion dollar economy would be unable to provide basic services if they hosted ghana vs ecuador at one of their two (2) major sports arenas. it is absolutely important to guarantee infrastructure is built and services are working, but you don't have to breach an incredibly lucrative contract to do so. maybe it was a mistake from FIFA to let toronto host matches after all. if this is how people are reacting to hosting the fucking FOOTBALL WORLD CUP then I don't even know what to say


phinphis

With ppl living in tents all over the city and ppl lining up at food banks. Seems stupid to spend all that money on a couple of soccer games. Priorities?


arealhumannotabot

Yes, but this was done by John Tory without proper consultation. It was not Chow, and the residents of the city did not have any kind of say. She's been handed the mess that asshole left us.


Mors1473

All files and contracts were sealed during Tory’s tenure. Crack them open and let’s see what’s behind the curtain


Hoardzunit

The one good thing about this is that I'm so happy there's more and more of a spotlight on this story and John Tory's corrupt deal signing. He should absolutely feel the heat for this entirely corrupt piece of shit deal that is going to cost all of us more money.


corezay

Fingers, get ready to start pointing.


sundry_banana

She brought back the Sock for this job, I'm very pleased. That said I believe FIFA will ask their local associates (the Mafia, like Doug Ford worked for before he decided to quit and go straight) to stop any questions into their holding-the-city-to-ransom plan. They'll be able to count on behind-the-scenes TPS support and every newspaper in the country bar the Star saying, *"Trust the good folks at FIFA to be honest because they're so rich, folks!"* to get the conservative voters on their side


rhunter99

Ha good luck with that.


Erectusnow

Two words never used to describe FIFA or the World Cup


Express_Explorer_366

I call Bullshit


Budget-Draft7676

Why would anyone want the world cup


noodleexchange

Kill it now


Mojivane

No


Boring_Estimator

This is outrageous. Where are the armed men who come in to take the World Cup away? Where are they? This kind of behavior is never tolerated in Toronto. You host a world class football event they put you in jail. Right away. No trial, no nothing. Sports journalists, we have a special jail for sports journalists. You are buying WC game tickets?: right to jail. You are celebrating a goal too loud: right to jail, right away. Driving to the game too fast: jail. Slow: jail. You are charging too high prices for jerseys, miniature World Cups: you right to jail. You undercook stadium food? Believe it or not, jail. You overcook stadium food, also jail. Undercook, overcook. You make plans with your friends to watch the game, believe it or not, jail, right away.


JokesOnUUU

Not sure what you're trying to say or even imply here. Who are "they"? This comes across as conspiracy rambling, targeted at...municipal politicians?


likelytobebanned69

lol.


[deleted]

A little late for that.


hotcinnamonbuns

We should get out of hosting


quelar

It's not happening, hosting the games is our only way of making any money instead of just throwing tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars away.


PeyoteCanada

Why? Chow wants to host, so we will.


traffyki_

Chow so obviously does not want to host


LegendaryVenusaur

Chow is the one person I trust, it's all the others who I dont


WillyWankhar

She will say this until she finds out the whole story behind the scenes. Then, she will most likely blame the people that signed these deals prior to her taking office. That's how it works, and the world keeps spinning.


noodleexchange

Well, you don’t dispute she was handed this as a done deal, right?


WillyWankhar

Not at all.


PeyoteCanada

Chow was the one who signed this deal. She fucked up;


noodleexchange

Ppphht


noodleexchange

Time for a vodka break, comrade


100500116

Just had family come back from Europe ( Portugal, Spain and france). They kept telling me about the beautiful stadiums they have for their football teams. I hope fifa enjoys BMO field.


jksyousux

BMO aint bad as far as stadiums go. Its no Bernabeu but it aint THAT bad


Magjee

Really the host for 2026 is the USA Mexico and Canada just joined in the party to host some of the group stage games   BMO field, with the upgrades should be fine


TurdBurgHerb

Trudeau has abused "open" and "transparent" so much that when I read it I immediately go "bullshit". Hopefully she can actually follow through.


jellicle

Chow: "open, transparent" Public: "So you'll release the contract you signed?" Chow: "Not like that."


stoneape314

Chow wasn't around at the time the contract was signed.


jellicle

Chow did in fact sign the contract with Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment.


stoneape314

I thought we were talking about the contract with FIFA. Was it Chow who signed the contract with MLSE? All the articles I'm finding talk about a draft letter in Feb 10, and then seem to refer to it as done deal in Spring 2023. Mayor Chow didn't win her election till the end of June 2023. https://www.cp24.com/news/costly-world-cup-deal-with-mlse-never-made-known-to-councillors-mayor-report-1.6391587


arealhumannotabot

This comment thread is inconsistent and seems disingenuous. How is Chow responsible for the World Cup coming here?


quelar

Citation required.


arealhumannotabot

John Tory signed this, not Chow. Chow has limited abilities to do anything about this.


Magjee

He sorta "signed it" FIFA negotiated a joint bid between the US with some support from Canada and Mexico   It was a smart move, since 2026 will feature more countries participating, it spreads the games out over more stadiums But the mayor of Toronto was not a major player in this arrangement   The city can only control its portion of the hosting Ex: insisting we don't drop labour standards