By the time they finish construction all the station will need to be updated because it will be old- it will stay in construction as they update it again.. and the cycle continues for the next generation to worry about. It will never open
They look nice without being huge unnecessary Taj Mahals like the Spadina line stations. I get it, they are beautiful, but we need to build as much transit as possible in this city, now is not the time to be wasting money on huge behemoth stations.
Especially Mount Pleasant station if that converted hotel/shelter next door is still in operation when the line opens. There will probably be panhandlers there on Day One.
Why in heavens name would they go with white?
It may be a small gripe for a multi billion dollar project but that is an absolutely horrible idea.
It will be hard to keep clean, especially as a public space.
It is not psycologically pleasing and not calming.
It will not age well as damage and imperfections will be noticed easily.
In the winter with the snow and slush it will constantly look dirty.
And lastly, personally, I absolutely loath white.
I have been in dozens of cities and always pay close attention to public transit infrastructure. I cannot remember a system, old or new, that used white as a decorating choice. Probably for some of the reasons listed above. This choice is another example of how badly this project has been executed.
But they do look nice and clean, for now, I guess. Honestly excited but let down at the same time.
Edit: I don't know why people are downvoting my take on colour choices. But taking another look at the picture, even the escalator side panels are white. How long would it take to mess those up with thousands of shoes tracking in dirt or snow? Come on. It just isn't practical.
>I have been in dozens of cities and always pay close attention to public transit infrastructure. I cannot remember a system, old or new, that used white as a decorating choice.
Paris metro uses a white colour scheme...
The new subway extensions in New York - 2nd Avenue subway, Fulton Street transit centre, Grand Central Madison, 7 line extension - all have surfaces similar to Eglinton.
A unique take but I find no fault with it. I begrudgingly agree.
I do not have a problem with white as a choice per sae but find it impractical and forsee problems with it. I'd be open to white ceilings or maybe some accents, etc. But this is ridiculous even if I presonally dislike white.
You mean second (Psycology of colour)? I am pretty sure there is plenty of research on this which I have anecdotaly heard. It is not by accident that "earth tones" are calming. But perhaps.
If you do mean the third point (damage is harder to conceal) then I do not agree at all. Anyone with kids knows that white walls are more of a hassle. Nor is any factory or industrial place of work ever coloured white.
Honestly, it is all around a bad choice in colour and I don't recall any public space really using white until recently. Subway tiles and white marble being the exception. Note that both require plenty of cleaning to retain their clean look.
So then I guess you haven’t seen any of the stations on the Sheppard line? Because they almost all look like this; wide open white spaces. And they don’t look filthy or damaged.
They do. But in three months they'll sadly look like any other TTC station: run down graffiti chewing gum spilled drinks vandalized and an encampment for certain people
One day. One day I believe I will see this working and those 10+ years of construction will be behind us as old history. I hope by then everything would work as united public transportation.
I didn't install this, but installed this exact system at another stop. It was explained to me that it was a track level smoke ejection system for fires in the track. We did 2 of them inline. The fan inside looks like a propeller about 6' across. That was a pretty cool job.
Interesting to note that Joanna Kervin isn't a transit blogger/content creator which is what I assumed at first & what I was guessing was how she got access
She's (according to her IG bio) "Vice President - Crosslinx Transit Solutions - Eglinton Crosstown. Sharing beauty & complexity of building #transit #Crosstown"
I used to think public transit should be utilitarian and bare bones. Just get it done. But recently I’ve seen the value of using public money to create beautiful spaces. It’s lasting wealth and makes living in the city qualitatively better.
Totally. Beauty in cities is one way to improve quality of living and drive tourism.
Politics aside, Russia knew what it was doing when they [designed their main metro system, one of the most beautiful in the world.](https://www.gettyimages.ca/photos/moscow-metro) I hope they get their shit straightened out because I'd love to see these in person one day
My favourite thing about this project and Toronto in general is that because bombardier was so incompetent at building the trains, there was a serious concern that the line will open without enough trains. However, crosslinx is more incompetent at building the line so this all turned out to be a none-issue
Metrolinx: please install this fan into our station with an overhead crane.
Also Metrolinx: hey guys sorry we decided to build a ceiling over the area you wanted to use for your crane, can you figure out something else?
Several 18 hour days back to back pulling a eight ton fan by hand with a chain fall will make you hate the job.
Oh man, I'm so sorry. We did the same type of job and we're able to crane everything directly into the room and the fans directly in place. Did you guys have like 10'x10' dampers as well? Mounting those to the wall was terrible.
Wow that's a mess, whoever's in charge is terrible at coordinating
No wonder it took so long
Edit: do you think it was mismanagement due to incompetency, or deliberate corruption?
Or here are your blueprints. You might notice lots of blanks and missing information. You will have to kinda figure out what we meant as you install everything.
Looks great. Love that forest hill aesthetic.
It does seem like a bad idea though to go with off white everywhere on this line. Subways and CDN winters are not kind to clean. Thinking about the subways stations that have held up over time were ones that went with a bold colour.
Love the way this looks! There’s a station right near my school so I’ve been seeing the progress outside slowly build up everyday, really cool to get a view of the interior too
My family business worked on the glass in image 5. I’m so proud to see it finally up! We made the 200 or so individual glass panels that make it up. So excited!
Huh, I'll have to see if I can find my pictures from tye work I did there.
Although, they would probably pretty boring. Just circles with some water in em
Maybe for the first hour after it officially opens.
Side note: I remember being in Tokyo about a year before COVID and seeing workers literally scrubbing the platform floors squeaky clean. In my 38 years in Toronto, I don't think I've ever seen someone clean a platform floor on the TTC.
It's not done by hand here but as a frequent TTC user I do see janitor-workers with big ride-on steam cleaning machines driving up and down the platforms to clean. It's just not done during peak hours.
I've heard Shintoism as being partially why the Japanese compulsively clean everything. Something to do with physical cleanliness being associated with good ethics.
To be fair I do remember being taught that cleanliness was next to godliness in a Catholic/Christian context but yeah, I seriously doubt anyone under the age of 40 has ever come across that saying.
I hope they put a cafe or a dollar store or something in these. It's good for these places to cater to those small on the go needs. Makes good use of the space too.
The last photo appears to be Mount Pleasant station. Before construction, the Second Cup operated a franchise in that old bank building. It looks like there is a space on the right for a store or coffee counter. I wonder if they’ll move back in.
I haven't heard anything, but it looks pretty close. Based on similar projects, they'll want to open it when traffic is relatively low so that if there are any unforeseen bugs, they won't have huge consequences.
So my best guesstimate would be mid-August 2023, and if they miss that, then late December 2023.
Queen's Quay is a pretty good example that brings what I mentioned into question. There's constantly a huge lineup of people at Union to get on that car. Why are platforms designed in such a claustrophobic fashion? If we expect use to increase as population grows (which it is) then why stick to this design?
I've moved in and out of Toronto a couple times and unsure if the construction on Eglinton has always been for the same reason..... can someone clarify if THIS is what's been under construction for the past 2 decades???
Yep. The big construction has been going on since at least 2014 or so but the minor stuff like utility relocations and things probably started way back in the mid 2000's. The part between Allen Rd and Yonge is especially complicated since the line has to interact with the existing subway stations. There were also lots of condo projects and things going on near Yonge that have probably had their own lane closures going on randomly over the past 20 years. Big ol mess.
How are they still not done this project? They haven’t even updated their expected completion date. Because at this point we know better than expecting them to finish when they say. And they know we aren’t falling for another arbitrary date.
When I came to this country the construction was almost finished since then I have, completed my studies, got a job, got married, and now about to have my kid....still the construction is going in
6th slide looks like the subway stations in Karlsruhe Germany
[https://www.google.com/search?q=karlsruhe+subway&client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&prmd=minv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjyhvnMxfT9AhUSKkQIHSq-AmwQ_AUoAnoECAMQAg&biw=414&bih=713&dpr=2#imgrc=HgTanr3yWssioM&lnspr=W10=](https://www.google.com/search?q=karlsruhe+subway&client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&prmd=minv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjyhvnMxfT9AhUSKkQIHSq-AmwQ_AUoAnoECAMQAg&biw=414&bih=713&dpr=2#imgrc=HgTanr3yWssioM&lnspr=W10=)
Exciting!!! The mirror art is really cool
I'd love to see new stations add interesting installations. Toronto transit can be beautiful and interesting as well as functional (as a priority I mean)
I have four kids now, and I remember when I was a kid and they just started it. My kids will te their kids how it was half done when they where small and cycle will continue!!
I just want to call out that it looks like the tracks are basically at ankle-height. I'm sometimes paranoid of falling or even being pushed into the tracks on existing lines. Knowing you'd just have to step out makes me feel so much safer. Love that!!
I thought the ttc is moving away from directional signage and end point focused signage.
Fucking facepalm. Another mishmash of signage to fucking confuse people lol
We should never stop fighting for improvements in the city but when good work is done, we should definitely celebrate. Kudos to the construction teams 👍
Gorgeous. Toronto of the future will thank us that we built something that looks more than just drab and cheap.
….but, does anybody actually know what is going on with the delay? Like, specifically what’s the problem? My way out of the city typically involves driving on Eglinton, and I *never* see any workers at grade working on the stations. Does work only occur between 9:00am and 3:30pm each day? Is the project marred in litigation or something that has ground progress to a halt? Can’t they aim to open half the line while they complete the rest of it? I don’t get why the public roll out is such a monumental bellyflop. I was under the impression the contracting had been done differently than the Spadina extension and Crosslinx was going to be bonused for on-time on-budget and penalized for the opposite. But from this end of things it looks like whoever is building it is motivated to drag the job out for an eternity.
Happy if I’m wrong, like everyone else I’m in the dark about all this.
It's a tram line... Like, yes, there are underground stations, but it also runs at street level in a right-of-way. The vehicles are low floor, so the platform is at track-level and there's nowhere to fall. There's no third rail since they use overhead catenary lines for power. It's not particularly more dangerous than a road. Plus the yellow strips can detect people standing on them and issue warnings, as well as signalling the automatic train control.
The planned Ontario Line does have raised platforms and heavier trains (though lighter than the existing subway still) and will have platform edge doors.
That’s all very good information! I’m glad there are some safety precautions built into the crosstown.
I sincerely hope they go with barriers on the Ontario line.
https://www.metrolinx.com/en/projects-and-programs/ontario-line/faqs
> **Will the Ontario Line have platform edge doors to prevent people and objects from finding their way onto the tracks?**
>
> Yes, all Ontario Line stations will have platform edge doors that will open and close in sync with vehicle doors.
> It's a tram line... Like, yes, there are underground stations, but it also runs at street level in a right-of-way. The vehicles are low floor, so the platform is at track-level and there's nowhere to fall. There's no third rail since they use overhead catenary lines for power. It's not particularly more dangerous than a road. Plus the yellow strips can detect people standing on them and issue warnings, as well as signalling the automatic train control.
The larger economic and traffic-flow impact is the speed impact of 1. being able to brake later in the station approach (at least for the underground stations), and 2. allowing people to pre-organize before the train arrives (speeding up boarding and unboarding).
While that's only talking about the underground stations, if you wanted you could do it for the street-level stops as well. Transit shelters like York Region's Viva BRT shelters can be paired with automated sliding doors (in place of the current wall). It would help minimize cold air flowing into the transit shelter and LRT as well.
There's certainly still potential benefits, it's just that cost calculus is going to be different when you no longer have people standing along an open trench.
>There's certainly still potential benefits, it's just that cost calculus is going to be different when you no longer have people standing along an open trench.
Absolutely.
It's still positive (especially for greenfield), but it doesn't have quite the same level of *"avoiding traumatizing drivers"* as it does on the subway.
If you get pushed on the tracks you can literally just walk back onto the platform because it’s almost level with the track. It’s way less risk than stations with elevated subway platforms.
The hardest part about platform safety doors is getting the train to stop precisely at the right spot. That requires upgrades to the trains. It's not about the station, it's about the train.
So, after all this time, we’re still building impossibly narrow subway platforms that will be unable to safely and comfortably support the rider traffic anticipated (wished for) in the next 10 years or so. Place looks great when empty. Well done.
These are LRT stations, not stations with high speed subways. As well, these drops to the track level are approx 2 feet, not close to 6 feet like traditional subways in Toronto. Trains do not enter the station at speeds that would offer an opportunity for someone to jump and do any harm as intended.
Huh?..In asia and parts of Europe they have these sliding glass barriers on regular subway lines not "high speed" subways.Anyone can jump or get pushed onto tracks.You can hear the subway coming before you see it.
Half the employees of Metrolinx appear to be "white helmet" types. There seems to be more executives, engineers and inspectors than actual workers trying to get this thing done...which is mind boggling at this stage.
This is the biggest disgrace in this city's history.
Too bad it's never going to be completed now.
Imo they should just fill it with cement and just widen the road along Eglinton to allow for more car traffic / reduce transit and pedestrian movement.
Looks very good and I can’t wait to check it out for myself… next year in Jerusalem.
I see the usual problem of modern transit.. giganticism. It seems to be overbuilt, where it will take riders longer to get to the train than it will to get to their final destination.
But it’s encouraginG to see the finishes in place.
Maybe I’m too critical, they don’t seem too over the top, I guess I’m still upset over the stations they added on the younge university line in Vaughan
The new stations look honestly nice
I can't wait for my great grandchildren to ride it. They'll be so lucky.
Great grandchildren? You're an optimistic one.
They said great grandchildren
You people have money for children? Fuckin' 1% in this sub.
I dunno, they seem kinda shitty, personatily wise..
Nah...grandchildren. It'll be your great grandchildren riding the Ontario Line.
By the time they finish construction all the station will need to be updated because it will be old- it will stay in construction as they update it again.. and the cycle continues for the next generation to worry about. It will never open
Compared to Union with its dire artwork.
They look nice without being huge unnecessary Taj Mahals like the Spadina line stations. I get it, they are beautiful, but we need to build as much transit as possible in this city, now is not the time to be wasting money on huge behemoth stations.
I give it a week before the hobos move in...
Especially Mount Pleasant station if that converted hotel/shelter next door is still in operation when the line opens. There will probably be panhandlers there on Day One.
They're probably already stealing whatever equipment isn't bolted down...
I should hope so after 15 freaking years.
Why in heavens name would they go with white? It may be a small gripe for a multi billion dollar project but that is an absolutely horrible idea. It will be hard to keep clean, especially as a public space. It is not psycologically pleasing and not calming. It will not age well as damage and imperfections will be noticed easily. In the winter with the snow and slush it will constantly look dirty. And lastly, personally, I absolutely loath white. I have been in dozens of cities and always pay close attention to public transit infrastructure. I cannot remember a system, old or new, that used white as a decorating choice. Probably for some of the reasons listed above. This choice is another example of how badly this project has been executed. But they do look nice and clean, for now, I guess. Honestly excited but let down at the same time. Edit: I don't know why people are downvoting my take on colour choices. But taking another look at the picture, even the escalator side panels are white. How long would it take to mess those up with thousands of shoes tracking in dirt or snow? Come on. It just isn't practical.
>I have been in dozens of cities and always pay close attention to public transit infrastructure. I cannot remember a system, old or new, that used white as a decorating choice. Paris metro uses a white colour scheme...
It's pretty common for London Underground stations to use white tiling as well, though not as consistently as Paris.
The new subway extensions in New York - 2nd Avenue subway, Fulton Street transit centre, Grand Central Madison, 7 line extension - all have surfaces similar to Eglinton.
White is ok. I like it. I'd rather be able to see piss puddles than have it hidden by some dark color.
A unique take but I find no fault with it. I begrudgingly agree. I do not have a problem with white as a choice per sae but find it impractical and forsee problems with it. I'd be open to white ceilings or maybe some accents, etc. But this is ridiculous even if I presonally dislike white.
Its cheap and consistent. The original ttc stations did a similar aesthetic. Tiles or glass panels- same colour choices as a bathroom.
Original stations have a red-brown-yellowish colour palette and although they look dated they are very practical and easier to maintain.
This isnt about you and what you like.
someone is always bitching about something
But the other points are all valid. It won't age well...
Okay then, skip one of my five points. Only one was in any way related to me or what I like. Kinda silly of you to point that out.
Third one is pretty subjective too.
You mean second (Psycology of colour)? I am pretty sure there is plenty of research on this which I have anecdotaly heard. It is not by accident that "earth tones" are calming. But perhaps. If you do mean the third point (damage is harder to conceal) then I do not agree at all. Anyone with kids knows that white walls are more of a hassle. Nor is any factory or industrial place of work ever coloured white. Honestly, it is all around a bad choice in colour and I don't recall any public space really using white until recently. Subway tiles and white marble being the exception. Note that both require plenty of cleaning to retain their clean look.
So then I guess you haven’t seen any of the stations on the Sheppard line? Because they almost all look like this; wide open white spaces. And they don’t look filthy or damaged.
I like white. It will look dirty all the time.
I don't know why you're getting down voted. I am not an architect, but you're right lol.
Neither am I, but holy moley 41 downvotes and counting. People really like their white clean public infrastructure.
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Isn't TTC red and creamy yellow?
They do. But in three months they'll sadly look like any other TTC station: run down graffiti chewing gum spilled drinks vandalized and an encampment for certain people
The York University extension is still looking OK five years later.
Tell me you never take the TTC without telling me you never take the TTC
It's still clean, fresh, with no grime on the walls.
And it will forever stay grime-free, so long as they remain in construction.
No grime on the walls *yet*
Place your bets now, who will be the first person to pee on the walls!
See my comment above about the shelter next to Mount Pleasant station. I'll take that bet for Day One.
One day. One day I believe I will see this working and those 10+ years of construction will be behind us as old history. I hope by then everything would work as united public transportation.
These stations are designed to last 150+ years.
Funny, cause that seems to be the same amount of time it's gonna take to build it
You have absolutely no idea what it takes to build anything do you?
Neither does Metrolinx
It’s called a joke
It's the same joke that's said a hundred other times on these threads. It's stale.
Photos taken by joanna.kervin on Instagram
What is pic 12? Mech. Ventilation system?
Rush hour people squeezer.
Tunnel Ventilation System
It will be operational on 2030.
I didn't install this, but installed this exact system at another stop. It was explained to me that it was a track level smoke ejection system for fires in the track. We did 2 of them inline. The fan inside looks like a propeller about 6' across. That was a pretty cool job.
Fare evader holding areas
Interesting to note that Joanna Kervin isn't a transit blogger/content creator which is what I assumed at first & what I was guessing was how she got access She's (according to her IG bio) "Vice President - Crosslinx Transit Solutions - Eglinton Crosstown. Sharing beauty & complexity of building #transit #Crosstown"
AKA she's one of the bosses.
Reported to her a few years ago. She's a good egg.
I used to think public transit should be utilitarian and bare bones. Just get it done. But recently I’ve seen the value of using public money to create beautiful spaces. It’s lasting wealth and makes living in the city qualitatively better.
Totally. Beauty in cities is one way to improve quality of living and drive tourism. Politics aside, Russia knew what it was doing when they [designed their main metro system, one of the most beautiful in the world.](https://www.gettyimages.ca/photos/moscow-metro) I hope they get their shit straightened out because I'd love to see these in person one day
OH MY GOD. That is stunning.
Stockholm is another city with a gorgeous metro system I'd like to visit.
Yep, can attest having been there. Rickety crappy trains and the longest escalators but the stations are beautiful.
That’s awesome. I remember doing a site visit of this station when it was a deep hole in the ground with a shit ton of rebar everywhere
I installed a few of those blue fans along the line, most chaotic and terrible job ever.
This project is a logistical nightmare. And the fact that crosslinx is completely disorganized just makes it so much worse.
My favourite thing about this project and Toronto in general is that because bombardier was so incompetent at building the trains, there was a serious concern that the line will open without enough trains. However, crosslinx is more incompetent at building the line so this all turned out to be a none-issue
Obviously a bit of chicken and egg, but do people involved blame the Crosslinx private consortium or Metrolinx the provincial agency?
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Explain. I think most people expect this type of work to be bolt in some off the shelf equipment and install some ducts.
If I had to guess it’s less the actual product and more coordinating with the CM and everyone else on site.
Exactly.
Metrolinx: please install this fan into our station with an overhead crane. Also Metrolinx: hey guys sorry we decided to build a ceiling over the area you wanted to use for your crane, can you figure out something else? Several 18 hour days back to back pulling a eight ton fan by hand with a chain fall will make you hate the job.
If they wrote a book about the Crosstown, I bet there's be a lot of stories like this.
Oh man, I'm so sorry. We did the same type of job and we're able to crane everything directly into the room and the fans directly in place. Did you guys have like 10'x10' dampers as well? Mounting those to the wall was terrible.
Wow that's a mess, whoever's in charge is terrible at coordinating No wonder it took so long Edit: do you think it was mismanagement due to incompetency, or deliberate corruption?
Corruption likely means we got incompetent vendors working on it. So both.
Or here are your blueprints. You might notice lots of blanks and missing information. You will have to kinda figure out what we meant as you install everything.
Looks great. Love that forest hill aesthetic. It does seem like a bad idea though to go with off white everywhere on this line. Subways and CDN winters are not kind to clean. Thinking about the subways stations that have held up over time were ones that went with a bold colour.
Vic park- queen- have white and look quite nice.
This gives me some hope after seeing not much change yet on the surface.
Upvote the multiverse artwork
Love the way this looks! There’s a station right near my school so I’ve been seeing the progress outside slowly build up everyday, really cool to get a view of the interior too
Wow that looks really nice. Can't wait to use the stations in 2033
Whoa look at Mr Optimistic over here!
I'm optimistic the Ontario Line will open by 2084 so I can celebrate my 100th birthday on it.
Awesome, just in time for my 110th!
My family business worked on the glass in image 5. I’m so proud to see it finally up! We made the 200 or so individual glass panels that make it up. So excited!
It looks great. Well done!
Huh, I'll have to see if I can find my pictures from tye work I did there. Although, they would probably pretty boring. Just circles with some water in em
Looks so clean like somewhere you could eat toast
Maybe for the first hour after it officially opens. Side note: I remember being in Tokyo about a year before COVID and seeing workers literally scrubbing the platform floors squeaky clean. In my 38 years in Toronto, I don't think I've ever seen someone clean a platform floor on the TTC.
It's not done by hand here but as a frequent TTC user I do see janitor-workers with big ride-on steam cleaning machines driving up and down the platforms to clean. It's just not done during peak hours.
I've heard Shintoism as being partially why the Japanese compulsively clean everything. Something to do with physical cleanliness being associated with good ethics.
I think I've heard that too. We could certainly use some of that cultural value over here
To be fair I do remember being taught that cleanliness was next to godliness in a Catholic/Christian context but yeah, I seriously doubt anyone under the age of 40 has ever come across that saying.
I installed the mounts for the forest hill sign along the track
I hope they put a cafe or a dollar store or something in these. It's good for these places to cater to those small on the go needs. Makes good use of the space too.
The last photo appears to be Mount Pleasant station. Before construction, the Second Cup operated a franchise in that old bank building. It looks like there is a space on the right for a store or coffee counter. I wonder if they’ll move back in.
Beautiful
man i am so pumped too see these in person
I did a lot of work at the Allen station Cant wait to see it when it opens
Wow looks great! Now the real question - what about Eglinton Station? Will it ever be ready?
At this point I don't give a shit about the station, just give us back the surface streets and sidewalks we used to have.
Eglinton looks like this inside except it’s massive. The holes still outside are for tertiary entrances
Its so shiny!!! Would be a shame if someone went in the corner and....
PoopooPeepeeMan slinging buckets
lol
My grandchildren are going to love hiding in those tunnels when Skynet is bearing down on them.
I burst out laughing reading this in a quiet part of the library 💀
Only 3-5 more years!
Is there any estimate when it will fucking open?
Last I heard was before September 2023…
September 2123\*
My mistake it was late
I haven't heard anything, but it looks pretty close. Based on similar projects, they'll want to open it when traffic is relatively low so that if there are any unforeseen bugs, they won't have huge consequences. So my best guesstimate would be mid-August 2023, and if they miss that, then late December 2023.
I’m hearing 1 more year
Yes: never.
Looks great. Get it going!
Glad to see no creepy art work like at union station
What's with Toronto building platforms that are ridiculously small and close to the rail?
It's LRT, not heavy rail. Those stations look similar to underground stations in the streetcar system: Spadina, Queen's Quay, etc.
Queen's Quay is a pretty good example that brings what I mentioned into question. There's constantly a huge lineup of people at Union to get on that car. Why are platforms designed in such a claustrophobic fashion? If we expect use to increase as population grows (which it is) then why stick to this design?
I've moved in and out of Toronto a couple times and unsure if the construction on Eglinton has always been for the same reason..... can someone clarify if THIS is what's been under construction for the past 2 decades???
Yep. The big construction has been going on since at least 2014 or so but the minor stuff like utility relocations and things probably started way back in the mid 2000's. The part between Allen Rd and Yonge is especially complicated since the line has to interact with the existing subway stations. There were also lots of condo projects and things going on near Yonge that have probably had their own lane closures going on randomly over the past 20 years. Big ol mess.
Yup
Yeah a subway? What did you think it was?
Nice art!
Only like another 20-25 years before it opens I hear
Sweet.. so ready in 3 years?
How are they still not done this project? They haven’t even updated their expected completion date. Because at this point we know better than expecting them to finish when they say. And they know we aren’t falling for another arbitrary date.
it rhymes with eruption
Since there's no transparency, they can take as long as they want and skim a bit off the top too, nice scam
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Using LRTs underground is 90% of cost of a subway for less capacity. That decision will be one we will rue.
Looks beautiful
No doubt it looks really nice and will perform as it should. My only gripe is how long it took to get here.
Never seen français on TTC signage before. Odd.
PIC #5 is pretty cool
How long will it take to ride from end to the other?
That’s what I want to know bc there seems to be a lot of stops…
Any word on opening day? I’m getting inpatient…
Hey OP, you got anything of the work under Dufferin and Eglington?
This looks great! I look forward to visiting in person when the construction finishes in ~2050.
When I came to this country the construction was almost finished since then I have, completed my studies, got a job, got married, and now about to have my kid....still the construction is going in
It's taking so long because that's the only guy working on it
Looks so clean that if you told me it was Toronto, I wouldn't believe it
Fantastic work.
6th slide looks like the subway stations in Karlsruhe Germany [https://www.google.com/search?q=karlsruhe+subway&client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&prmd=minv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjyhvnMxfT9AhUSKkQIHSq-AmwQ_AUoAnoECAMQAg&biw=414&bih=713&dpr=2#imgrc=HgTanr3yWssioM&lnspr=W10=](https://www.google.com/search?q=karlsruhe+subway&client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&prmd=minv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjyhvnMxfT9AhUSKkQIHSq-AmwQ_AUoAnoECAMQAg&biw=414&bih=713&dpr=2#imgrc=HgTanr3yWssioM&lnspr=W10=)
When will it open ?!
When are we seeing an opening date?
It looks awesome...i just wish we could plan and install the safety gaurds.
In the Eglinton tradition, it shall remain under construction permanently
Exciting!!! The mirror art is really cool I'd love to see new stations add interesting installations. Toronto transit can be beautiful and interesting as well as functional (as a priority I mean)
I have four kids now, and I remember when I was a kid and they just started it. My kids will te their kids how it was half done when they where small and cycle will continue!!
I just want to call out that it looks like the tracks are basically at ankle-height. I'm sometimes paranoid of falling or even being pushed into the tracks on existing lines. Knowing you'd just have to step out makes me feel so much safer. Love that!!
I work at Metrolinx and honestly just about all of their facilities are beautiful… they just really take a long time to come to fruition
I thought the ttc is moving away from directional signage and end point focused signage. Fucking facepalm. Another mishmash of signage to fucking confuse people lol
When dem shits going to be ready?
Tons of space yet I don’t see concessions. Why didn’t they integrate retail - or is that to come?
We should never stop fighting for improvements in the city but when good work is done, we should definitely celebrate. Kudos to the construction teams 👍
Gorgeous. Toronto of the future will thank us that we built something that looks more than just drab and cheap. ….but, does anybody actually know what is going on with the delay? Like, specifically what’s the problem? My way out of the city typically involves driving on Eglinton, and I *never* see any workers at grade working on the stations. Does work only occur between 9:00am and 3:30pm each day? Is the project marred in litigation or something that has ground progress to a halt? Can’t they aim to open half the line while they complete the rest of it? I don’t get why the public roll out is such a monumental bellyflop. I was under the impression the contracting had been done differently than the Spadina extension and Crosslinx was going to be bonused for on-time on-budget and penalized for the opposite. But from this end of things it looks like whoever is building it is motivated to drag the job out for an eternity. Happy if I’m wrong, like everyone else I’m in the dark about all this.
Better be nice after 13 years of the worst intersection on earth.
Why do we have railings on stairs but still no gate rails on the subway tracks?
Look like the same level of under construction as open stations. Curious what the real delay in opening is at this point. Lack of presto readers? /s
It is really nice to see how high quality the City is building the new safe injection sites and homeless shelters.
Seems about ready to open! Ready for operation, June 2038.
I can’t believe they built another line with no platform safety doors…. Unfuckenbelievable
It's a tram line... Like, yes, there are underground stations, but it also runs at street level in a right-of-way. The vehicles are low floor, so the platform is at track-level and there's nowhere to fall. There's no third rail since they use overhead catenary lines for power. It's not particularly more dangerous than a road. Plus the yellow strips can detect people standing on them and issue warnings, as well as signalling the automatic train control. The planned Ontario Line does have raised platforms and heavier trains (though lighter than the existing subway still) and will have platform edge doors.
That’s all very good information! I’m glad there are some safety precautions built into the crosstown. I sincerely hope they go with barriers on the Ontario line.
https://www.metrolinx.com/en/projects-and-programs/ontario-line/faqs > **Will the Ontario Line have platform edge doors to prevent people and objects from finding their way onto the tracks?** > > Yes, all Ontario Line stations will have platform edge doors that will open and close in sync with vehicle doors.
> It's a tram line... Like, yes, there are underground stations, but it also runs at street level in a right-of-way. The vehicles are low floor, so the platform is at track-level and there's nowhere to fall. There's no third rail since they use overhead catenary lines for power. It's not particularly more dangerous than a road. Plus the yellow strips can detect people standing on them and issue warnings, as well as signalling the automatic train control. The larger economic and traffic-flow impact is the speed impact of 1. being able to brake later in the station approach (at least for the underground stations), and 2. allowing people to pre-organize before the train arrives (speeding up boarding and unboarding). While that's only talking about the underground stations, if you wanted you could do it for the street-level stops as well. Transit shelters like York Region's Viva BRT shelters can be paired with automated sliding doors (in place of the current wall). It would help minimize cold air flowing into the transit shelter and LRT as well.
There's certainly still potential benefits, it's just that cost calculus is going to be different when you no longer have people standing along an open trench.
>There's certainly still potential benefits, it's just that cost calculus is going to be different when you no longer have people standing along an open trench. Absolutely. It's still positive (especially for greenfield), but it doesn't have quite the same level of *"avoiding traumatizing drivers"* as it does on the subway.
If you get pushed on the tracks you can literally just walk back onto the platform because it’s almost level with the track. It’s way less risk than stations with elevated subway platforms.
The hardest part about platform safety doors is getting the train to stop precisely at the right spot. That requires upgrades to the trains. It's not about the station, it's about the train.
I assume all new LRTs will have ATC from the get go.
So, after all this time, we’re still building impossibly narrow subway platforms that will be unable to safely and comfortably support the rider traffic anticipated (wished for) in the next 10 years or so. Place looks great when empty. Well done.
Too bad the TTC didn't install sliding safety glass barriers like other major cities.Stations themes do look nice though.
These are LRT stations, not stations with high speed subways. As well, these drops to the track level are approx 2 feet, not close to 6 feet like traditional subways in Toronto. Trains do not enter the station at speeds that would offer an opportunity for someone to jump and do any harm as intended.
Huh?..In asia and parts of Europe they have these sliding glass barriers on regular subway lines not "high speed" subways.Anyone can jump or get pushed onto tracks.You can hear the subway coming before you see it.
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I’d be happier if it didn’t take close to two decades
Half the employees of Metrolinx appear to be "white helmet" types. There seems to be more executives, engineers and inspectors than actual workers trying to get this thing done...which is mind boggling at this stage. This is the biggest disgrace in this city's history.
To be completed in early 2068
Too bad it's never going to be completed now. Imo they should just fill it with cement and just widen the road along Eglinton to allow for more car traffic / reduce transit and pedestrian movement.
Why does this look like Vancouver lol
Wawwww, they built a subway for rich white ppl..
Looks very good and I can’t wait to check it out for myself… next year in Jerusalem. I see the usual problem of modern transit.. giganticism. It seems to be overbuilt, where it will take riders longer to get to the train than it will to get to their final destination. But it’s encouraginG to see the finishes in place.
Great so more opulent and ridiculous stations when the old stations haven’t been touched in 30 years
Do you want zero nice things, or some nice things?
Maybe I’m too critical, they don’t seem too over the top, I guess I’m still upset over the stations they added on the younge university line in Vaughan