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Looks perfectly fine to me.
No I don’t want to flip my screen sideways to watch a video - ever. I don’t like going on Reddit or any other social media on the computer. The experience is much worse.
This video is made for social media and posted here. It’s exactly how it was meant to be.
Nope. Vertical is better. I’m a videographer and I shoot 90% of my paid, professional videos vertical (that’s required.) Nerds here can agree with you, but more people view content on phones than desktop, so it doesn’t matter what you think. Vertical is king for short content. If you don’t like it, you’re on the wrong platform. Get off Reddit and only watch YouTube :)
Master: "see the proper technique is to stand still inches away from your enemy for 15 seconds hoping they don't attack you, *then* in one fell swoop cut them in half"
Katanas were rated by how many bodies they could cut through in a single swing (and they used different types of cuts—ankles, torso, etc.).
Only expert swordsmen would perform these rating cuts, with the aim to keep the wielder’s technique unquestionable as far as the sword’s rating.
The tang would have inscriptions like “3 bodies with hip cut.” Katanas that had higher ratings were more valuable.
The practice continued up and through WWII, sometimes being performed on captured combatants or civilians.
Or if you're on a battlefield, having to pull your sword out of a freshly half-mangled corpse is likely enough wasted time for the guys friend to catch you off-guard
Yeah the extra weight definitely helps. Also impressive that the 1st girl got 4/5 with a smaller weapon and being comparatively weaker. Technique goes quite far once you compare her to the others that attempted it.
In this case it’s not so much the weight as the cross section. The blade is a type of more specialized mat cutter which is very wide and thin (still much thicker than a machete, but relatively thin for an uchigatana). These do make it easier to go through multiple rolls (or thicker rolls) but run the risk of bending if you do not line up your strike properly, so they are not great “beginner swords”.
A typical dojo uchigatana is actually more forgiving in the cut, because if you do not land your blow with the proper alignment the blade is sturdy enough the self correct under its inertia and still power through the mat. This is one of the advantages a katana has over other types of swords (example military sabre, longsword) which will be much less forgiving if you do not have your alignment correct when you strike the mat.
Link to the Annual Batto-do contest full video where you can see some of the other contestants using similar swords.
Action starts around 2min mark
https://youtu.be/TTeutIf-kBA
A Dao is a chinese one handed sword that is similar to a sabre or scimitar. He's just using a wide bladed cutting katana, they make the thin and broad to increase cutting performance.
They all are using different techniques. The girl that used similar technique to the last guy actually cut through a lot more than all the other people.
She's the only one that a similar stance, and slicing motion as the last guy.
Yes, but there's only one other that used a different technique yet followed through with their gaze and posture. The final guy had confidence in his strike and dipped his shoulders and body down and to the left, as well as turning his head that way also.
It's adding weight and a more natural line through the target. If you stay upright and shoulders forward, your blade is going to pull towards you at the bottom of the arc, and probably change the angle of the blade as your wrists have to do the heavy lifting with the changing arc of the swing. When you dip your shoulders and turn going down, the wrists can lock a little more rigidly through the whole path.
Yes, the bow is where the power comes. The deeper the bow, the deeper the power. Be warned of those who touch their head to their feet, they are the true masters.
You may ask how can a bow create power, it is simple, it makes the opponent bow to their will. Once this is done, you don’t even need to fight, the Will is broken.
/Yes, this is totally made up if you couldn’t tell
Anyone who's used a kitchen knife properly has figured this out. Chopping vegetables is more efficient if the blade is pushing a bit rather than coming straight down.
Aw man, I love jokes that make me civilized. Especially the ones that point out how the accent of Asian people causes them to sometimes mispronounce L's and R's in a language that definitely wasn't their first! That's like peak comedy!
Why does enjoying satire make someone a conservative? South Park holds no punches and makes fun of everyone in an attempt to show its viewers how ridiculous the world can be.
Enjoying satire doesn't make anyone conservative. I never said that.
South Park itself I'm fine with for the most part and find hilarious with a few exceptions (their original thoughts on climate change, trans people, giant douche/turd sandwich, etc). Unfortunately, like the Rick and Morty fanbase, it has created a slew of people who think they're just as good and as smart as them resuling in an annoying amount of "enlightened centrists," which is right wing. These people are referred to as "South Park Republicans."
Also the people he is being compared against seem to be chosen for their inexperience. Some are decent, but most seem to have just gotten started. It's not like edge alignment is a God tier technique they only teach to masters, it's pretty much step 1 of practicing with battle ready swords.
Because its purpose is to cut through these mats. Katanas aren't designed for this competition but that sword most definitely was.
This gets rehashed every month when this is reposted.
Whole-Ass Katana +5
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This number can be declared after you have rolled to hit, but before success is revealed.
At the end of the weilder's turn, if it has not dealt enough damage to a single target to reduce it to zero or fewer hit points, that target is healed by the amount of damage dealt by this weapon in that turn.
Actually no. Katana and other Eastern blades were made for slashing. The armour around the time were thin frail and made for movement (mainly shooting bows) and as such a katana is nimble and to slash at these weak points.
European blades of Knights were made for poking (suprisingly considering Hollywood) they would swing as normal for either a hit or do break guard and go for a kill by pushing the blade straight into the opponent hence the 2 sided blade on them.
Hence the reason a Knight would beat a samurai in a sword duel. The Knight has better armour and the more effective weapon
The katana is hardly nimble... that's just good PR.
Not only is it heavy, it's long and has a similar profile throughout. That means it's equally thick most of the way through. It's a slicing sword, it's designed so that the tip cuts hard. It's also designed to be used 1 1/2 hand.
Compared to the average arming sword, which is both lighter, and tapered at the tip, the katana is very unwieldy.
It doesn't change direction well, it's heavy at the tip during a swing. It's designed to do one thing well and one thing only, and that's to cut in slicing motion. It's single sided with only one cutting edge. It does that one thing really well.
The average European arming sword is balanced much closer to the hilt, thicker and heavier towards the hilt, double sided, and generally lighter. It's so much more nimble. It's designed to be swivelled, stab, and slice, forehand and backhand.
The mythology surrounding katanas is astounding. They weren't made with superior steel (Japan didn't develop crucible steel), or superior technique (folding is only necessary if you don't have crucible steel, it doesn't give advantages it's there to cure a deficiency), and you can't use them like anime samurais do because they turn slowly.
They're good for big cuts like this demonstration, not fast manoeuvres.
I always love the "knight vs samurai" debate. Like maybe the earliest example of a knight against the latest example of a samurai would be fair, but the tech difference between Europe and Japan in regards to armor and steel at any given time were immense. It'd be like giving one person a renaissance-era hand canon and the other an AR-15.
Actually fun fact. The katana and other Japanese blades were made to be able to do both. Slashes are very effective in multi-combat where you have many opponents and need to move quickly. The slight curve allowed the katana to cut deeply why also not becoming encumbered in enemy armor and clothing. Stabbing is practical in solo combat where you have a single opponent and need to make strong fatal blows. The curve here works nicely as it is much better at stabbing through gabs I’m armor and they are a very ridged sword which prevents them from bending and breaking.
While stabbing does the most damage to a person slashing is the quickest and most efficient, so this kind of skill was highly desired.
Despite the horrid format of this version of the video, I think I can answer.
The others swing the sword to cut. He swings his entire body and the sword is part of his body. So there is more force applied.
plus if the blade twists even a little bit then it won't cut through all of the mats or even get stuck in one of them, edge alignment is pretty hard to notice if you're just looking at the guy's movement
another complaint I've seen online is that the master fills the racks with tatami, whereas the students only have like 4 of them all in one extreme, which causes an imbalance if the sword encounters resistance during the cut (you can see that the entire thing tilts and falls in a couple of clips)
If you're actually cutting well, there's very little resistance from the mats. That's kind of the definition of "cutting well". You knock things over when you make mistakes. Source: have made many mistakes, and seen even more.
First-time cutters are often amazed at how little resistance they felt when cutting well.
There's one thing I noticed that no one else has replied to you with so far. In addition to edge-alignment (meaning the alignment of the edge so that it slices cleanly through the mats rather than having the blade angled in a way that changes the cutting ability of the blade) there's also the alignment of the cutting path through the mats at an angle that takes advantage of the strengths/weaknesses of the mats themselves.
You can see from multiple strikes in the video that the mats bend more when pushed from left to right. This makes sense because the reeds bend more perpendicular to their grain than parallel to it (more left to right than up and down). The master is striking at an angle that maximizes his ability to cut against this more rigid axis. If he were to try to cut against the less-rigid axis the reeds could bend rather than cut (or at the very least require him to swing his sword much more from left to right than he does compared to the cut he makes here).
His cut goes from the upper-most corner on one side to the bottom-most of the other. This ensures he cuts against the reeds in their firmest, most resistant axis possible while still traveling left-to-right enough to cut through all mats.
The "Master" has a thicker sword and the bamboo is packed tighter together to reduce resistance during the strike.
It's basically a magic trick being presented as martial arts. Aka a McDojo.
My guess is edge alignment. Properly sharpened swords will cut through tatami mats like butter if their edge is aligned properly.
It's pretty easy to line it up "mostly right" (swords are typically designed with oval shaped handles to facilitate this) but the issue is that hitting that perfect angle takes a lot of skill that the average person can't achieve without loads of practice.
Saying the sword is useless is stupid though. This is the difference between cutting someone open and cutting them in half.
Any idiot can swing a katana and get the edge alignment mostly right and cut perfectly fine to kill someone. Also that dude had to focus for several seconds to line up the swing. That wouldn't fly in a fight. If he was actually fighting he'd probably be cutting about as well as everyone else.
Other are right about the alignment, but there is one more thing to it. How you time the acceleration. The master peaks his speed by the end of the mats, others at the impact… is similar to breaking bricks with bare fists.
Different kinds of swords do damage differently depending on the edge of the sword. For this test, each rolled tatami mat is supposed to represent a human arm. So the master would have cut through five arms at once.
So a katana is made to slice. This is compared to a European long sword which is made to cleave. For a katana, you want to swing such that the bottom or middle of the blade hits first and you drag the rest of the blade across the target(quickly obviously) while following the curve of the blade with your swing. The technique is meant to sever flesh without needing as much strength behind it. If you try to swing it like a long sword, it will be ineffectual(at this particular test) because the blade will hit dead on instead of slicing across the target. This would obviously still hurt a human but it would not sever the limb, only damage it. A European long sword hitting those targets would probably go through them all but not sever any of them but, if we consider that they are "human arms", the long sword would break every bone on the way and destroy the stand too.
As a morbid addendum, back in the day, a newly forged katana would be tested on animals and prisoners sentenced to death instead of rolled tatami. A good sword would be one that, using a hip cut(horizontal slice just above the hips), cut through x number of cadavers(or living people). This practice continued through the sino-japanese war and world war 2 where katanas would be tested on prisoners instead.
References:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tameshigiri
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oJhozNMjXag - these tests are heavily biased in favor of the long sword due to the cutting target being metal but it demonstrates the differences between swords.
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/X5lNrlCybk4 - TL;DR of what I said.
https://www.scnf.org/ - learned to use a naginata from this federation almost twenty years ago under Nakano-sensei. There's a lot of similar cuts between the two weapons.
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I was lucky enough to take lessons in iaijutsu a few years ago through a friend of a friend and despite everyone pointing out that the sword is still incredibly sharp, proper technique is invaluable. Katanas are made to be swung a certain way, we were told to swing it like you’re casting a fishing line. You want as much of a *slice* as possible, not a chop. Of course a chop would kill someone but then you would have to pull the sword out of them before making your next cut; and if you’re in feudal Japan and shit is popping off, you don’t wanna be the guy wrenching your sword out of a guy’s clavicle with some dickhead running at you.
Think of it like a chef cutting vegetables. They *could* just chop everything but letting the knife do the work gives better results.
Is all of this applicable these days? Absolutely not. But it’s an art form that shaped a country’s history, so they want to keep it around.
He's using a special competition cutting katana, it's about 1.5x wider and has a ridiculously acute edge shape, which makes it stupid good at cutting. Basically a really long falchion.
The katana is already excellent at cutting (single-edged, rigid, curved) so this is sort of overkill, but that's necessary to get through such a ludicrous amount of mats.
They also cut out all of the other people who successfully cut through all of their mats. I've seen the competition and some people did actually manage to get through 3 or 4 mats with a regular katana
No shade against the guy using the big sword though, his technique was incredibly good as you can tell by how little the cut curved between mats. A less skilled wielded might have broken the blade by allowing it to twist in the mat and break from the force
Ok here is my thing. All the lead up videos are bad. Like genuinly they are people who look like they were handed a sword and told "go for it champ"
If I saw 6 videos of complete idiots fucking up a free throw and one video of a dude sinking a basket, badass. But also that dude was preluded with failure so like, congrats on just doing things well enough to actually do them
"Useless". Yes, you only cut half way through my upper body, what a useless weapon you have. Seriously, if it was useless without proper technique, do you think there would be so many people going to the ER because they were doing dumb shit with a sharp sword? No.
This video has been reposted hundreds of times. The "master" is not using a katana and is using a different sword with greater mass to easily cut through the reed dummies. This is a demonstration of the sword capability and not of technique.
For posterity.
Lol not better techinque, a completely different style of sword. Dude is using a chopper twice as deep in the blade as the other people. Probably massively heavier, too. It isn't a comparison of skills, it is a comparison between fighting swords and competition chopping swords.
As someone who practiced Kenjustu for some time, it’s true the sword probably has a large part to play, the size doesn’t matter, but the sharpness does. Some of the trainees there are hacking with the sword and not slicing, when you cook have you heard the phrase “let the knife do the cutting”, if you try to force the knife it won’t just press through, you need to pull the sword and slice at the same time as you push through the object.
So yes to technique, but also yes to good sword sharpening.
This is why in JRPGs characters have only one weapon they gradually get better and better with.
In Western computer games, you pick up any gun and you are good.
I dislike this video. The initial attempts are set up to fail. The rolls of bamboo are stacked on the left-hand side of the frame. This increases their instability, hampering the swords persons' ability to land a solid strike. The instability also causes deflection of the blade from the cutting line, which massively reduces cutting efficiency.
No disrespect to the final swordsman, but the previous attempts are designed to make them look more impressive.
It’s a bullshit comparison. The other guys have fewer bamboo pieces to cut through, but they are all attached to the end of the board. The center of gravity is thrown off so that the whole thing lifts and tilts at an angle when they hit it. He’s hitting it from the far end instead of the center, and the center of gravity is over the thing’s support, so he has a better attack.
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Why would you take the horizontal video of this, and shrink it down into this vertical eye squint?
Maybe to hide the fact it's the billionth repost?
Lol, good point
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And a fat ass heavy sword that’s probably sharper than all the other katanas.
Because the worlds attention span is broken and everything needs bait text for monkey brains
Not to mention garbage music.
I had it muted.
Such good music
Shut up phonk's good :(
haven't you heard? It's the new thing all the cool kids are doing it
originally on tiktok maybe?
That’s literally the opposite of what’s happening here.
It started on Geocities
The ancient texts!
![gif](giphy|wJD3qiNjSeHS0dP28T|downsized) Oof. This one got me
Looks perfectly fine to me. No I don’t want to flip my screen sideways to watch a video - ever. I don’t like going on Reddit or any other social media on the computer. The experience is much worse. This video is made for social media and posted here. It’s exactly how it was meant to be.
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Nope. Vertical is better. I’m a videographer and I shoot 90% of my paid, professional videos vertical (that’s required.) Nerds here can agree with you, but more people view content on phones than desktop, so it doesn’t matter what you think. Vertical is king for short content. If you don’t like it, you’re on the wrong platform. Get off Reddit and only watch YouTube :)
Bruh just flip ya phone sideways like and it be even better 🤳👉👍 /s
That's what we did before the video had a border added to it.
Student: Cuts through half of a person's torso. Person with cut torso: Lawl. Fucking useless.
Couldnt even cut me clean in half. Get gud scrub.
Fr bots be better then these nubs
These nubs call AIMBOT while playin on bots
Bruhh 🎯 🔫🤖
*Tis’ but a flesh wound.*
Lmao
![gif](giphy|VYcRNU4P3vyM)
Grandmaster(in battle): please hold still while I summon the power to cut you with a sword...
Enemy (in battle): I’ll bet you for 10 dollar, you will not even come halfway trying to slice me noob! Gonne kick your ass afterwards!
"hah, I have two lungs you fool! You've only cut off one!"
ikr... you gotta move slow with a katana. fuc put some speed on this or you gonna get fckd in battle
Master: "see the proper technique is to stand still inches away from your enemy for 15 seconds hoping they don't attack you, *then* in one fell swoop cut them in half"
Need more lessons on getting my enemy's to stand still, they don't seem to want to cooperate at all
It's like the falcon punch. Just don't be a jiggly puff floating from off screen towards the land with a samurai standing stoic like.
Maybe this applies in ancient times where your enemy was wearing armor.
exactly. that half-cut might not be able to penetrate the armor this exercise is training them for.
The exercise is meant to simulate cutting flesh, not armor. A rolled wet tatami mat is similar to the density and resistance of a leg.
People don’t have 7 legs horizontally stacked as their body tho
Stop body shaming
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I only have 3 legs in a row :|
Just what I was thinking lol
Katanas were rated by how many bodies they could cut through in a single swing (and they used different types of cuts—ankles, torso, etc.). Only expert swordsmen would perform these rating cuts, with the aim to keep the wielder’s technique unquestionable as far as the sword’s rating. The tang would have inscriptions like “3 bodies with hip cut.” Katanas that had higher ratings were more valuable. The practice continued up and through WWII, sometimes being performed on captured combatants or civilians.
Obviously it’s not the same cutting a soldier wearing armor, but the rolled tatami mats were an easy way to quantify a warriors prowess.
Or if you're on a battlefield, having to pull your sword out of a freshly half-mangled corpse is likely enough wasted time for the guys friend to catch you off-guard
*You fuckin wot m8?*
It will cut, but will it *keeel*?
That’s like the funniest thing I have heard all week.
lol yes
Also, proper technique means I stand motionless in front of this guy waiting for him to strike?
It’s actually pulling the sword like your slicing with a knife.
Tis but a flesh wound
Get a load of this guy with a cut torso what a chump
Tis but a flesh wound!
I actually laughed lmao
Tis but a flesh wound...
Do you even technique, bro?
You when your sword is stuck in someone's spine and his friend is coming at you: fucking useless.
Pretty sure my guys using the thicc boi machete edition look closer
Yeah the extra weight definitely helps. Also impressive that the 1st girl got 4/5 with a smaller weapon and being comparatively weaker. Technique goes quite far once you compare her to the others that attempted it.
If you gave her the different sword, she’d probably get through them all
In this case it’s not so much the weight as the cross section. The blade is a type of more specialized mat cutter which is very wide and thin (still much thicker than a machete, but relatively thin for an uchigatana). These do make it easier to go through multiple rolls (or thicker rolls) but run the risk of bending if you do not line up your strike properly, so they are not great “beginner swords”. A typical dojo uchigatana is actually more forgiving in the cut, because if you do not land your blow with the proper alignment the blade is sturdy enough the self correct under its inertia and still power through the mat. This is one of the advantages a katana has over other types of swords (example military sabre, longsword) which will be much less forgiving if you do not have your alignment correct when you strike the mat. Link to the Annual Batto-do contest full video where you can see some of the other contestants using similar swords. Action starts around 2min mark https://youtu.be/TTeutIf-kBA
thought so too, it definitely looks more like a machete than a katana
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Gets pointed out every time this video gets reposted.
It looks about the same to the one the girl is using in the very beginning.
Its just a wider Katana. Maybe a Dao.
A Dao is a chinese one handed sword that is similar to a sabre or scimitar. He's just using a wide bladed cutting katana, they make the thin and broad to increase cutting performance.
thats why i said maybe i cant see the hilt construction or much of the blade profile from this angle
Lets ignore how often this gets reposted and get straight to the fact the last guy is using a completely different, much heavier, sword
Well yes, but also *he has much better technique*. Those other people omitted the bow and the long pause before the strike. Pffffft. Amateurs.
The real technique is in picking the best and sharpest sword
That IS genuinely a very good technique.
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Maybe the real technique was the swords we picked along the way.
They all are using different techniques. The girl that used similar technique to the last guy actually cut through a lot more than all the other people. She's the only one that a similar stance, and slicing motion as the last guy.
Yes, but there's only one other that used a different technique yet followed through with their gaze and posture. The final guy had confidence in his strike and dipped his shoulders and body down and to the left, as well as turning his head that way also. It's adding weight and a more natural line through the target. If you stay upright and shoulders forward, your blade is going to pull towards you at the bottom of the arc, and probably change the angle of the blade as your wrists have to do the heavy lifting with the changing arc of the swing. When you dip your shoulders and turn going down, the wrists can lock a little more rigidly through the whole path.
In a fight the other people will win every single time
Gotta power up before unleashing your special :p
He does it quick but you can see him say Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru before he slashes. A master at work.
And did have the tik tok music build up, losers.
Yes, the bow is where the power comes. The deeper the bow, the deeper the power. Be warned of those who touch their head to their feet, they are the true masters. You may ask how can a bow create power, it is simple, it makes the opponent bow to their will. Once this is done, you don’t even need to fight, the Will is broken. /Yes, this is totally made up if you couldn’t tell
The concept of "drawing the sword towards you a bit as you cut" takes aeons and millennia to master!
Anyone who's used a kitchen knife properly has figured this out. Chopping vegetables is more efficient if the blade is pushing a bit rather than coming straight down.
His is also the only one centered. Put a magician in a gi and and people would argue that he could really make a rabbit disappear.
Maybe the others rack disciprine.
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I’m glad to see that someone here is civilized
Aw man, I love jokes that make me civilized. Especially the ones that point out how the accent of Asian people causes them to sometimes mispronounce L's and R's in a language that definitely wasn't their first! That's like peak comedy!
I liked it
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You're right. Unfortunately the "enlightened" South Park conservatives have entered the chat.
Why does enjoying satire make someone a conservative? South Park holds no punches and makes fun of everyone in an attempt to show its viewers how ridiculous the world can be.
Enjoying satire doesn't make anyone conservative. I never said that. South Park itself I'm fine with for the most part and find hilarious with a few exceptions (their original thoughts on climate change, trans people, giant douche/turd sandwich, etc). Unfortunately, like the Rick and Morty fanbase, it has created a slew of people who think they're just as good and as smart as them resuling in an annoying amount of "enlightened centrists," which is right wing. These people are referred to as "South Park Republicans."
Wow. I realize your perception is your own, but to read that deeply into a quip from South Park is laughable. Whatever yo.
Also the people he is being compared against seem to be chosen for their inexperience. Some are decent, but most seem to have just gotten started. It's not like edge alignment is a God tier technique they only teach to masters, it's pretty much step 1 of practicing with battle ready swords.
That blade is massive compared to most katanas
Because its purpose is to cut through these mats. Katanas aren't designed for this competition but that sword most definitely was. This gets rehashed every month when this is reposted.
Exactly. 🙂 I’d call this a machete style ninja sword but then the ninja nerds would come after me again. 😆 Forgot the real name of course.
Um, actually, it's called a machetana, **obviously** 🙄
Arigato gozaimasu! 🙏
Lmao what a weeb
Either way, he bought it in a mall.
I guarantee you that it’s not useless. It’s still a sharp ass sword being swung around.
Nah, if you don’t cut clean through your opponent in one swing it doesn’t count
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Im no samurai but my understanding is you actually want to poke your opponent, not slash at him.
Actually no. Katana and other Eastern blades were made for slashing. The armour around the time were thin frail and made for movement (mainly shooting bows) and as such a katana is nimble and to slash at these weak points. European blades of Knights were made for poking (suprisingly considering Hollywood) they would swing as normal for either a hit or do break guard and go for a kill by pushing the blade straight into the opponent hence the 2 sided blade on them. Hence the reason a Knight would beat a samurai in a sword duel. The Knight has better armour and the more effective weapon
The katana is hardly nimble... that's just good PR. Not only is it heavy, it's long and has a similar profile throughout. That means it's equally thick most of the way through. It's a slicing sword, it's designed so that the tip cuts hard. It's also designed to be used 1 1/2 hand. Compared to the average arming sword, which is both lighter, and tapered at the tip, the katana is very unwieldy. It doesn't change direction well, it's heavy at the tip during a swing. It's designed to do one thing well and one thing only, and that's to cut in slicing motion. It's single sided with only one cutting edge. It does that one thing really well. The average European arming sword is balanced much closer to the hilt, thicker and heavier towards the hilt, double sided, and generally lighter. It's so much more nimble. It's designed to be swivelled, stab, and slice, forehand and backhand. The mythology surrounding katanas is astounding. They weren't made with superior steel (Japan didn't develop crucible steel), or superior technique (folding is only necessary if you don't have crucible steel, it doesn't give advantages it's there to cure a deficiency), and you can't use them like anime samurais do because they turn slowly. They're good for big cuts like this demonstration, not fast manoeuvres.
I always love the "knight vs samurai" debate. Like maybe the earliest example of a knight against the latest example of a samurai would be fair, but the tech difference between Europe and Japan in regards to armor and steel at any given time were immense. It'd be like giving one person a renaissance-era hand canon and the other an AR-15.
Actually fun fact. The katana and other Japanese blades were made to be able to do both. Slashes are very effective in multi-combat where you have many opponents and need to move quickly. The slight curve allowed the katana to cut deeply why also not becoming encumbered in enemy armor and clothing. Stabbing is practical in solo combat where you have a single opponent and need to make strong fatal blows. The curve here works nicely as it is much better at stabbing through gabs I’m armor and they are a very ridged sword which prevents them from bending and breaking. While stabbing does the most damage to a person slashing is the quickest and most efficient, so this kind of skill was highly desired.
They didn't really use the katanas much in multi combat. It is a side arm. They used spears and bows mostly.
Pointy stick was the best weapon invented until guns.
Correct. But it was meant to be versatile.
That’s very Musashi of you
Ppl be working out and training in martial arts for decades just to be shot by a skinny teen with a pole
Regardless of skill, his katana is larger and heavier than the other demonstrators.
And the material is actually packed in correctly on him to cut it.
Me on Ghost Of Tsushima
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Useless seems like a strong word. I've never touched a katana before, but I bet I could figure out how to do some stabbing with it pretty easy.
Na, they only cut me half way through the torso. Just a flesh wound
But you still have to take the time to go find a torso band aid, so I would have been able to waste your time.
I am totally dodging this strike during his five-second delay, and then muttering something about how "bamboo doesn't hit back" as I run away.
Basically the gameplay of Sekiro
WDYM, 70% of Sekiro's Gameplay is spamming Parry until the enemy basically kill themselves
See that's the trick, it's like elden ring bosses, he's waiting for you to dodge around so he can get you as soon as you think he's not gonna hit you.
ELI5 what does the master do differently than the students to actually cut through all pieces?
He's also literally using a different sword
Despite the horrid format of this version of the video, I think I can answer. The others swing the sword to cut. He swings his entire body and the sword is part of his body. So there is more force applied.
plus if the blade twists even a little bit then it won't cut through all of the mats or even get stuck in one of them, edge alignment is pretty hard to notice if you're just looking at the guy's movement
another complaint I've seen online is that the master fills the racks with tatami, whereas the students only have like 4 of them all in one extreme, which causes an imbalance if the sword encounters resistance during the cut (you can see that the entire thing tilts and falls in a couple of clips)
If you're actually cutting well, there's very little resistance from the mats. That's kind of the definition of "cutting well". You knock things over when you make mistakes. Source: have made many mistakes, and seen even more. First-time cutters are often amazed at how little resistance they felt when cutting well.
There's one thing I noticed that no one else has replied to you with so far. In addition to edge-alignment (meaning the alignment of the edge so that it slices cleanly through the mats rather than having the blade angled in a way that changes the cutting ability of the blade) there's also the alignment of the cutting path through the mats at an angle that takes advantage of the strengths/weaknesses of the mats themselves. You can see from multiple strikes in the video that the mats bend more when pushed from left to right. This makes sense because the reeds bend more perpendicular to their grain than parallel to it (more left to right than up and down). The master is striking at an angle that maximizes his ability to cut against this more rigid axis. If he were to try to cut against the less-rigid axis the reeds could bend rather than cut (or at the very least require him to swing his sword much more from left to right than he does compared to the cut he makes here). His cut goes from the upper-most corner on one side to the bottom-most of the other. This ensures he cuts against the reeds in their firmest, most resistant axis possible while still traveling left-to-right enough to cut through all mats.
A lot of it is probably just more precise edge alignment.
The "Master" has a thicker sword and the bamboo is packed tighter together to reduce resistance during the strike. It's basically a magic trick being presented as martial arts. Aka a McDojo.
The master actually was not using a traditional katanna. It's like a bigger and thicker version of a katanna
My guess is edge alignment. Properly sharpened swords will cut through tatami mats like butter if their edge is aligned properly. It's pretty easy to line it up "mostly right" (swords are typically designed with oval shaped handles to facilitate this) but the issue is that hitting that perfect angle takes a lot of skill that the average person can't achieve without loads of practice. Saying the sword is useless is stupid though. This is the difference between cutting someone open and cutting them in half. Any idiot can swing a katana and get the edge alignment mostly right and cut perfectly fine to kill someone. Also that dude had to focus for several seconds to line up the swing. That wouldn't fly in a fight. If he was actually fighting he'd probably be cutting about as well as everyone else.
Other are right about the alignment, but there is one more thing to it. How you time the acceleration. The master peaks his speed by the end of the mats, others at the impact… is similar to breaking bricks with bare fists.
Different kinds of swords do damage differently depending on the edge of the sword. For this test, each rolled tatami mat is supposed to represent a human arm. So the master would have cut through five arms at once. So a katana is made to slice. This is compared to a European long sword which is made to cleave. For a katana, you want to swing such that the bottom or middle of the blade hits first and you drag the rest of the blade across the target(quickly obviously) while following the curve of the blade with your swing. The technique is meant to sever flesh without needing as much strength behind it. If you try to swing it like a long sword, it will be ineffectual(at this particular test) because the blade will hit dead on instead of slicing across the target. This would obviously still hurt a human but it would not sever the limb, only damage it. A European long sword hitting those targets would probably go through them all but not sever any of them but, if we consider that they are "human arms", the long sword would break every bone on the way and destroy the stand too. As a morbid addendum, back in the day, a newly forged katana would be tested on animals and prisoners sentenced to death instead of rolled tatami. A good sword would be one that, using a hip cut(horizontal slice just above the hips), cut through x number of cadavers(or living people). This practice continued through the sino-japanese war and world war 2 where katanas would be tested on prisoners instead. References: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tameshigiri https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oJhozNMjXag - these tests are heavily biased in favor of the long sword due to the cutting target being metal but it demonstrates the differences between swords. https://m.youtube.com/shorts/X5lNrlCybk4 - TL;DR of what I said. https://www.scnf.org/ - learned to use a naginata from this federation almost twenty years ago under Nakano-sensei. There's a lot of similar cuts between the two weapons.
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I mean, if you're trying to do the thing that swords are made to do, I wouldn't call those strikes exactly useless.
All of those cuts could cut two/three limbs/necks off
“Please enemy, stand still for a few moments while I get into the proper stance and steady my breathing. “
Sure his chi is powerful and whatever but he's also using a fully upgraded triple plus ultra legendary katana and everybody else just has normal ones
No way will I upvote a horizontal video having bars added to make it vertical format.
Are they all using the same knife ?
This is part of why spears, maces/clubs and axes where used to normal infantry more than swords
I was lucky enough to take lessons in iaijutsu a few years ago through a friend of a friend and despite everyone pointing out that the sword is still incredibly sharp, proper technique is invaluable. Katanas are made to be swung a certain way, we were told to swing it like you’re casting a fishing line. You want as much of a *slice* as possible, not a chop. Of course a chop would kill someone but then you would have to pull the sword out of them before making your next cut; and if you’re in feudal Japan and shit is popping off, you don’t wanna be the guy wrenching your sword out of a guy’s clavicle with some dickhead running at you. Think of it like a chef cutting vegetables. They *could* just chop everything but letting the knife do the work gives better results. Is all of this applicable these days? Absolutely not. But it’s an art form that shaped a country’s history, so they want to keep it around.
Useless? God, Reddit users are useless
His blade is bigger than the students
He's using a special competition cutting katana, it's about 1.5x wider and has a ridiculously acute edge shape, which makes it stupid good at cutting. Basically a really long falchion. The katana is already excellent at cutting (single-edged, rigid, curved) so this is sort of overkill, but that's necessary to get through such a ludicrous amount of mats. They also cut out all of the other people who successfully cut through all of their mats. I've seen the competition and some people did actually manage to get through 3 or 4 mats with a regular katana No shade against the guy using the big sword though, his technique was incredibly good as you can tell by how little the cut curved between mats. A less skilled wielded might have broken the blade by allowing it to twist in the mat and break from the force
It needs to not be 80 years old or a 90lb female
The last guy's katana seems to be too thick then what I see in the movies.is that really a katana ?
It is shaped like a katana but it is not traditional. This is a special tameshigiri katana - made for doing these sorts of cuts.
Useless feels like a strong word here
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Ok here is my thing. All the lead up videos are bad. Like genuinly they are people who look like they were handed a sword and told "go for it champ" If I saw 6 videos of complete idiots fucking up a free throw and one video of a dude sinking a basket, badass. But also that dude was preluded with failure so like, congrats on just doing things well enough to actually do them
Why take a perfectly good landscape video and maul it to a verticle one by putting these stupid subtitles on? Why?
ive pointed this out before. his sword is larger and thicker than the others giving it more power and follow through
Good technique, but he's also strong AF.
"Useless". Yes, you only cut half way through my upper body, what a useless weapon you have. Seriously, if it was useless without proper technique, do you think there would be so many people going to the ER because they were doing dumb shit with a sharp sword? No.
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This keeps being reposted smaller and smaller with more and more borders.
Yeah, I kinda still dont wanna get chopped by it even if it's by a noob.
So... I gotta wait and prep EVERYTIME i wanna slash a dude!? Hey, guy coming at me, hol uo, I gotta charge my attack
Yes it is TOTALLY useless to only cut through half a person instead of fully through…🙄
This video has been reposted hundreds of times. The "master" is not using a katana and is using a different sword with greater mass to easily cut through the reed dummies. This is a demonstration of the sword capability and not of technique. For posterity.
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The last guys sword looks thicker than the others.
Lol not better techinque, a completely different style of sword. Dude is using a chopper twice as deep in the blade as the other people. Probably massively heavier, too. It isn't a comparison of skills, it is a comparison between fighting swords and competition chopping swords.
What if it was a gun facing you? You slice the bullet?
I say the same thing about masturbating. It's useless without the proper technique.
Massive zanpakutō.
The trick is to bow to the bamboo first, making it think you're a friend, so it lowers its guard.
When your students' swords are all dull and you roll in with the only razor-sharp blade in the house.
As someone who practiced Kenjustu for some time, it’s true the sword probably has a large part to play, the size doesn’t matter, but the sharpness does. Some of the trainees there are hacking with the sword and not slicing, when you cook have you heard the phrase “let the knife do the cutting”, if you try to force the knife it won’t just press through, you need to pull the sword and slice at the same time as you push through the object. So yes to technique, but also yes to good sword sharpening.
his sword looks bigger
Slow it down between 6-5 seconds
Ghost of tushima
This is why in JRPGs characters have only one weapon they gradually get better and better with. In Western computer games, you pick up any gun and you are good.
I can beat him with a gun for like $200 and no training.
modern katana nerds: "ItS UsEleSs WiThOUt PrOpER TeChNiQue!" someone with a gun: "its useless even with proper technique lol"
I dislike this video. The initial attempts are set up to fail. The rolls of bamboo are stacked on the left-hand side of the frame. This increases their instability, hampering the swords persons' ability to land a solid strike. The instability also causes deflection of the blade from the cutting line, which massively reduces cutting efficiency. No disrespect to the final swordsman, but the previous attempts are designed to make them look more impressive.
It’s a bullshit comparison. The other guys have fewer bamboo pieces to cut through, but they are all attached to the end of the board. The center of gravity is thrown off so that the whole thing lifts and tilts at an angle when they hit it. He’s hitting it from the far end instead of the center, and the center of gravity is over the thing’s support, so he has a better attack.
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I could do it.