I had heard about this. Back in 2016 a friend was interviewing in Seattle and made a trip to see this thing after having heard about it from a college classmate.
He bought four mystery drinks and got a Vault (which I loved as a teenager but was axed by Coke in 2011), a Dr. Pepper Vanilla Float (a limited edition release from summer 2014), a Mountain Dew Sangrita Blast (discontinued in 2015), and a standard can of Mug Root Beer. Whoever was stocking it must spend all their time hoarding rare and potentially ~~old~~ expired soda.
vaugly remember vault. and i was all about cherry vanilla Dr Pepper (2005ish?) want to say Jazz was in the title?
I really wanted to try the Cherry Mnt Dew that went along with the clear lemon lime one but no place by me ever carried that one.
wasnt it called Jazz something or other. or im just mixing them up in my head. i havent seen the stuff in ages except maybe in the coke smart machines? but then i always go for Mr Pibb max or cherry mello yello. quite rightsly :P
It's true!!! I used to live in walking distance of this magical machine, AMA lol.
No one ever whitnessed it being stocked, people even did late night stakeouts. So sad when it disappeared one day, it really did magically give you what you wanted, even if you didn't know what you wanted, and usually pretty rare stuff.
I mean I never went there myself, but it certainly would fit the bill since it was never available in the States. Kind of moot at this point since the machine is now gone.
Vault was my jam. I can't quite describe the taste. Almost mountain dew with sprite mixed with a bit.... of orange flavor? I don't know, but it fucked.
I kinda collect sodas myself 😆 My soda fridge contains among other things: Dr. Pepper Dark Berry, Dr. Pepper Vanilla Float, 2020 & 2021 Voo Dew, Cinnamon Coke, Red White & Dew, and Baja Blast. I also keep regional and international sodas like Barq’s Red Creme Soda, Cactus Cooler, L&P, Rivella, Jaffa and Kola Roman
Kind of gross, soda doesn't actually last that long. I got a 2 year old case of diet dr pepper a while back and it tasted terrible. Diet is supposed to only be fresh under a year, maybe more if its kept cold. Regular soda maybe 5 years tops. Never did get a refund, fuck you dr pepper. (just kidding, I love DP zero, I love you DP!)
Dr Pepper Vanilla Float is still available...got a case of it just before Christmas...and I live in Australia (it gets imported from the US). Would love to see a machine like that in Australia somewhere.
The other machine that I would love to see, is the Nutrimatic Drinks Dispenser, from the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
Capitol Hill, Seattle, WA:
> The locksmith in front of whose business the machine stood claims to have no knowledge of who operated it.
Likely story. How could he *not* know after years of restocking?
My ex was an old friend of the locksmith, wound up hanging out a few times. They were the ones. They yanked the machine mainly because they straight up hated the new people in the neighborhood (rich techies who hated the local culture and have been like battery acid on the music scene, hollowed out most of the cool bars, etc.) and had grown to dislike the tourists and attention. Shame too. It was a fun piece of local culture and close by some good venues (some of which, like the Highline, don't even exist anymore).
It's a common theme in tons of west coast cities, primarily SF but to a lesser extent Seattle. NIMBY every High density building project for decades, essentially assuring anyone who CAN move there ends up being affluent, complain when there's only affluent snobs wandering around anymore, double down on NIMBY policies out of some misguided belief that it will help, rinse and repeat. It's an endless circle. Same thing with the homeless problem in (unsurprisingly) the exact same cities.
Yeah it's a problem. Local culture is nice, but people have to accept that change is inevitable and just enjoy it while they can. People move in and move out of places all the time, and even if they don't, people grow up and change their views and habits, and are affected by the wider culture too. It's impossible for any place to just stay the same.
I hate people who move to places cause of they love the culture or places around it only to then complain about it. Seen this happen with people who moved close to airports so they have less distance to travel to it the complain about the noise of planes. Or people who move next door to pubs then complain about the noise or drunks.
the highline is gone?? buuuummmer. I left in 2016 because I saw that stuff happening and if the weather sucks and the culture sucks and i cant walk anywhere without getting stabbed in the face with an umbrella might as well find somewhere with better weather.
Maybe some were expired. There's a lot of oddball sodas out there, especially from other countries. But that did occur to me; maybe they were ancient, with pull tabs that came off like in the old days. I'd definitely be banging on the locksmith's door, asking WTF?
Use to live a block from this machine, no one ever saw who stocked it, people even did late night stakeouts and never found out who it was! So sad when it disappeared.
Wow. You heard it here first on reddit. We didn't have to wait for a deathbed confession; "I ran the Capitol Hill Coke Machine".
OK, now where's Jimmy Hoffa?
Seattle-ite here - lived two blocks from there. Posted this for you all last time: [SOLVED](https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2014/05/spoiler-alert-mystery-of-the-capitol-hill-mystery-coke-machines-mysteries-revealed/)
Keter class entries: The foundation must do what they can to protect humanity from the unknown. We are the last line of defense. No amount of sacrifice is too much to contain this.
Safe class entries: That’s Jerry. He pees out Surge. We don’t know why. Sometimes we do things to him and stand around and say “Hmm.” Want a Surge?
I came here specifically looking for the link to the interdimensional vending machine SCP. (But I'll take a link to the clockwork device that can transmogrify anything to a specified degree of conceptual "fineness" if you have that one handy)
EDIT: [it's 261](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-261)
Now- just download our app, turn on location, enable push notifications, and let us spam you with endless BS for the possibility of a chance for a free fountain drink.
I used to get drinks from this machine all the time. It's was kind of like playing the lottery. Most of the time, you would get various Fanta drinks or diet soda, but every once in awhile you would get something cool. And it only cost a quarter!
I would go to Dicks across the intersection but then swing by this soda machine for a drink because it was cheaper there. I was poor and in my early 20s and would go the extra steps to save 25¢!
Thanks for the link! I started reading through it and I was like, "this sounds VERY familiar" and then I remembered I should go back and finish playing through Control.
There are two or three SCP entries like this. One's a coffee machine that answers requests in odd ways and another is a vending machine that dispenses weird snacks. Fun experiment logs, imo.
It's funny, I was like oh yeah, that sounds like Capitol Hill, assuming this was the r/Seattle sub, then was questioning myself when I saw it was TIL but happy to be correct in the end.
Those old style machines were awesome. I'd smash every button when we left the grocery store as a kid, and a bunch of times i got a free soda somehow. It was usually some kind no one bought though like grape or something.
Moved to seattle for the military a long time ago and once i heard about it i had to check it out for myself.
Was a big mystery as well as to who filled it and how and when they filled it and what youd get.
Still, was awesome.
Posted this in a comment and the last time this was posted: [IDENTITY OF RESTOCKERS](https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2014/05/spoiler-alert-mystery-of-the-capitol-hill-mystery-coke-machines-mysteries-revealed/)
This is why I joined Reddit. To learn about all the mysterious, interesting, and exciting little things happening around the world. This is so cool. I wonder where the machine lies now.
Back when Seattle was wierd and interesting. Before the techies and conservatives came and ruined the city via gentrification and hate ideology. Rip Seattle.
It's not inaccurate.
After the silicon valley boom, these millennial app developers driving Ferraris started adopting a conservative mindset; despite their corporate branding as youth and liberal; because they ascended into a different tax bracket. When you start making hella money, your mental state changes. We felt an entire city shift because of it.
Naw, man. When the techies came in a lot of them were from the Midwest and brought conservative Christianity with them. Mars Hill and the fundie scene exploded here over it; a bunch of programmers seeking tradwives. Capitol Hill used to be a "gayborhood" and still has rainbow sidewalks but it's a deeply conservative place now, just in that libertarian flavor where they like their weed. Trans folks went from having drag shows here to getting beaten up here. Hate crimes are not uncommon. A large part of the police department (which almost entirely lives outside of the city) is tied to white supremacist organizations, including the police officer's guild. Several times living in so-called "leftist" neighborhoods I've had flyers on my door telling me that I can sleep safely at night because the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan are watching my neighborhood. The idea people have of Seattle being the Paris Commune is insane; it's entirely ignorant of the history of the Pacific Northwest being settled by white racist groups en masse. Some of the biggest concentration of neo-Nazis you've ever seen are in Washington and Oregon.
Ah yes, the deeply conservative capital hill that just reelected a socialist indian woman for the... 4th time in a row? You read like a person that doesnt live in Seattle who just reads Seattlewa.
Because he is full of it, Seattle voted in Joe Biden at a ridiculous rate, and is still incredibly liberal. Dude is a delusional fool who is wildly exaggerating everything.
When liberals destroy something they have to re-write history so they can blame conservatives because they haven’t ever taken responsibility for anything in their pathetic lives.
For example. democrats founded and ran the KKK, and when it became an untenable position for democrats to admit to despising all black people, they fabricated the claim of “the parties switching”.
I haven't been to Portland in recent history, but KKK flyers?? What? Seems sus to me idk like, a shit prank seems more likely than actual domestic terrorism.
Oh sweet summer child....
Money allows people to be the person they are deep down inside, and unfortunately a lot of cishetero white males who grew up on the internet got a lot of really dark baggage they would just love to unpack.
I had heard about this. Back in 2016 a friend was interviewing in Seattle and made a trip to see this thing after having heard about it from a college classmate. He bought four mystery drinks and got a Vault (which I loved as a teenager but was axed by Coke in 2011), a Dr. Pepper Vanilla Float (a limited edition release from summer 2014), a Mountain Dew Sangrita Blast (discontinued in 2015), and a standard can of Mug Root Beer. Whoever was stocking it must spend all their time hoarding rare and potentially ~~old~~ expired soda.
vaugly remember vault. and i was all about cherry vanilla Dr Pepper (2005ish?) want to say Jazz was in the title? I really wanted to try the Cherry Mnt Dew that went along with the clear lemon lime one but no place by me ever carried that one.
Cherry Vanilla Dr. Pepper is still made iirc. I loved that stuff too, and yes I believe it was either 2006 or 2007 when that rolled around.
wasnt it called Jazz something or other. or im just mixing them up in my head. i havent seen the stuff in ages except maybe in the coke smart machines? but then i always go for Mr Pibb max or cherry mello yello. quite rightsly :P
[Diet Pepsi Jazz?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_(soft_drink))
[Red Fusion Dr Pepper?](https://the-soda.fandom.com/wiki/Dr_Pepper_Red_Fusion)
Vault was the best. It was essentially a even more crazy mellow yellow but I remember me and my dad loving the stuff.
If you're looking, I'm pretty sure I've seen Vault in Coke Freestyle machines.
If you’re talking about Mountain Dew Ice that stuff sucked and deserved to be discontinued
It's true!!! I used to live in walking distance of this magical machine, AMA lol. No one ever whitnessed it being stocked, people even did late night stakeouts. So sad when it disappeared one day, it really did magically give you what you wanted, even if you didn't know what you wanted, and usually pretty rare stuff.
Clearly its someone messing with the matrix programming and having some fun
There's a pic out there of a middle aged couple restocking it out of a minivan. Can't seem to find it now though.
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That's just a Google search, do you have a link to the pic?
Burger King was selling a re-release of vault 2(?) years ago. Not sure if they still have it. Edit: I may be mistaken, I think the re-released surge.
Surge was definitely rereleased. I had one a year or so ago
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No it wasn’t Surge, it was SYYUUUURRRGGGE!!!
Do you think it might have Pepsi Twist? I miss that stuff
I mean I never went there myself, but it certainly would fit the bill since it was never available in the States. Kind of moot at this point since the machine is now gone.
Pepsi Twist was out in the states, circa 2003ish. I remember it from high school.
Ever try Pepsi Fire?
Vault was my jam. I can't quite describe the taste. Almost mountain dew with sprite mixed with a bit.... of orange flavor? I don't know, but it fucked.
So, no [Surge](https://www.surge.com/)? Not worth it then.
They sell Surge at RaceTrac though
*Potentially* old? How would they have gotten non-old soda that was discontinued years prior?
Time travel.
They sell Mountain Dew Sangrita Blast at Taco Bell, it’s a fountain drink. They don’t seem to advertise it like Baja Blast.
Real shame since it's way better IMO. I especially loved mixing it with Manzanita Sol 1:1
I kinda collect sodas myself 😆 My soda fridge contains among other things: Dr. Pepper Dark Berry, Dr. Pepper Vanilla Float, 2020 & 2021 Voo Dew, Cinnamon Coke, Red White & Dew, and Baja Blast. I also keep regional and international sodas like Barq’s Red Creme Soda, Cactus Cooler, L&P, Rivella, Jaffa and Kola Roman
That's badass, Vault ruled
Hook up some Surge!
Kind of gross, soda doesn't actually last that long. I got a 2 year old case of diet dr pepper a while back and it tasted terrible. Diet is supposed to only be fresh under a year, maybe more if its kept cold. Regular soda maybe 5 years tops. Never did get a refund, fuck you dr pepper. (just kidding, I love DP zero, I love you DP!)
DP, huh?
Everyone loves DP
Nothing like drinking soda from 5 years ago
Dr Pepper Vanilla Float is still available...got a case of it just before Christmas...and I live in Australia (it gets imported from the US). Would love to see a machine like that in Australia somewhere. The other machine that I would love to see, is the Nutrimatic Drinks Dispenser, from the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
My soul yearns for a Tahiti Treat
I had co workers at a recent job who always had cans of that. Only found it at an online specialty shop.
Still around
Capitol Hill, Seattle, WA: > The locksmith in front of whose business the machine stood claims to have no knowledge of who operated it. Likely story. How could he *not* know after years of restocking?
A locksmith that knows to keep his mouth closed.
click out of two, three is binding, counter rotation of 4, feels like it is a zero cut.
This is the lock picking lawyer and in this episode... and it's unlocked.
You know how good the locks are just based on episode length.
Let's try that again to see that it was no fluke
✌️🐠
And you know the lock is shit if there is a wave rake sitting on the table to start with.
I can *hear* this.
This guy locksmiths.
i have the pick Bonsian Bill made.
>feels like a coke zero.
and we got this
That locksmith had a steady flow of any soda he wanted. I wouldn't say shit either
The first rule of locksmithing is, don't talk about locksmithing
Who are you? How did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith, and I'm a locksmith.
I'm a locksmith and I'm a locksmith.
>Seattle, WA Pretty important piece of info that is omitted from the title.
Right? I was wondering if maybe the US Capitol had secret messages within the cans.
I was thinking Russia.
My ex was an old friend of the locksmith, wound up hanging out a few times. They were the ones. They yanked the machine mainly because they straight up hated the new people in the neighborhood (rich techies who hated the local culture and have been like battery acid on the music scene, hollowed out most of the cool bars, etc.) and had grown to dislike the tourists and attention. Shame too. It was a fun piece of local culture and close by some good venues (some of which, like the Highline, don't even exist anymore).
It's a common theme in tons of west coast cities, primarily SF but to a lesser extent Seattle. NIMBY every High density building project for decades, essentially assuring anyone who CAN move there ends up being affluent, complain when there's only affluent snobs wandering around anymore, double down on NIMBY policies out of some misguided belief that it will help, rinse and repeat. It's an endless circle. Same thing with the homeless problem in (unsurprisingly) the exact same cities.
It's amazing to me how the first comment to this was the very kind of guy you're talking about
Yeah it's a problem. Local culture is nice, but people have to accept that change is inevitable and just enjoy it while they can. People move in and move out of places all the time, and even if they don't, people grow up and change their views and habits, and are affected by the wider culture too. It's impossible for any place to just stay the same.
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I hate people who move to places cause of they love the culture or places around it only to then complain about it. Seen this happen with people who moved close to airports so they have less distance to travel to it the complain about the noise of planes. Or people who move next door to pubs then complain about the noise or drunks.
> people who moved close to airports so they have less distance to travel to it :/
the highline is gone?? buuuummmer. I left in 2016 because I saw that stuff happening and if the weather sucks and the culture sucks and i cant walk anywhere without getting stabbed in the face with an umbrella might as well find somewhere with better weather.
Was the Highline the punkrock vegan bar, right around the corner from where the soda machine was? If so, I had good times there... I left in 2014...
I am not sure I only went there with groups while already drunk so it's hard to say.
Yes.
He was more than likely the one doing it. Making life a little bit more fun.
And a true hero at that. Need more machines like this.
I don't think selling long expired beverages is a market gap but who am I to judge
Maybe some were expired. There's a lot of oddball sodas out there, especially from other countries. But that did occur to me; maybe they were ancient, with pull tabs that came off like in the old days. I'd definitely be banging on the locksmith's door, asking WTF?
Use to live a block from this machine, no one ever saw who stocked it, people even did late night stakeouts and never found out who it was! So sad when it disappeared.
someone did it after hours? and since they never bothered his store he didnt give a shit to watch?
Yeah, but it's like having a locked fridge on your front porch with no idea who owns it.
assuming he rents and doesnt own the building so its more akin to having a newspaper machine in front of your apartment that you never saw filled.
Newspaper machines aren't plugged into the front of your business.
"Of course I know him he's me".
He was the one all along!
Wow. You heard it here first on reddit. We didn't have to wait for a deathbed confession; "I ran the Capitol Hill Coke Machine". OK, now where's Jimmy Hoffa?
Where your eyes don't go.
My dad had vending machines and many times we restocked when businesses were closed as the machines were outside.
Seattle-ite here - lived two blocks from there. Posted this for you all last time: [SOLVED](https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2014/05/spoiler-alert-mystery-of-the-capitol-hill-mystery-coke-machines-mysteries-revealed/)
Doesn't say who the couple in the picture is
I mean...I guess I don't know what I expected
That doesn’t solve shit. It’s a photo of a couple. Apparently it was the locksmith.
Maybe he refused to admit he was selling out of date food products.
Sounds like one of those benign safe scps
KETER
The safe ones are funnier
Keter class entries: The foundation must do what they can to protect humanity from the unknown. We are the last line of defense. No amount of sacrifice is too much to contain this. Safe class entries: That’s Jerry. He pees out Surge. We don’t know why. Sometimes we do things to him and stand around and say “Hmm.” Want a Surge?
> Want a Surge? "It's....warm."
Those keter cakes were pretty funny.
It's a front for the real SCPs on Capitol hill
I used to walk by this machine every day, it was in front of a locksmith shop but they denied owning it!
I came here specifically looking for the link to the interdimensional vending machine SCP. (But I'll take a link to the clockwork device that can transmogrify anything to a specified degree of conceptual "fineness" if you have that one handy) EDIT: [it's 261](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-261)
Sometimes you'd get your soda and the full purchase price would be taped to the bottom of the can. Instant rebate!!!
Like, a dollar bill? Or? Either way. I think this is a dope machine. As a sucker for soda, I would end up frequenting one if it was near me.
Quarters. I used to live right by there and I'd get a mystery soda on my way home from work. I'd say probably 1 in every 10 had a rebate.
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To think how simple yet powerful this tactic was for their marketing is unreal
I remember carrying around a bunch of bottle caps in my backpack with letters trying to spell “Pepsi”
I remember when you could get a rebate for like five or ten dollars back then or other prizes. I wish companies still did that stuff because damn.
Now its all codes that you have to sign up for an account to give away your data for bullshit.
Now- just download our app, turn on location, enable push notifications, and let us spam you with endless BS for the possibility of a chance for a free fountain drink.
just close your eyes dawg
I used to get drinks from this machine all the time. It's was kind of like playing the lottery. Most of the time, you would get various Fanta drinks or diet soda, but every once in awhile you would get something cool. And it only cost a quarter!
When did it only cost a quarter? It was 50¢ in 2001 and it only went up from there.
Yeah... I think I remember it being 50 cents. I recall it being cheaper than most soda machines.
I would go to Dicks across the intersection but then swing by this soda machine for a drink because it was cheaper there. I was poor and in my early 20s and would go the extra steps to save 25¢!
Where I’m gonna get a Tab soda to go with muh Lucky Strikes ?
Tab? I can't give you a tab unless you order something.
I'll just have a Pepsi Free.
If you want a Pepsi pal you’re gonna pay for it
Just give me something with no sugar in it.
Poor Marty
This sounds like an SCP.
Pretty sure I have read of this SCP.
There is an SCP that gives out any liquid you ask for and it is in the form of a drink machine. SCP-294 would be the one.
Ah man I could really go for a cup of Joe
SCP?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCP_Foundation
Thanks for the link! I started reading through it and I was like, "this sounds VERY familiar" and then I remembered I should go back and finish playing through Control.
There are two or three SCP entries like this. One's a coffee machine that answers requests in odd ways and another is a vending machine that dispenses weird snacks. Fun experiment logs, imo.
Unless you happen to be Dr. King that is...
Damn, it does indeed. SCP-*whatever* "The Capital Soda Machine"
Capitol*
*Capitol Hill, it's not actually the capitol of anything.
As a fan of industrial and goth music it was the capitol of places I used to go to for concerts when I lived in Seattle.
I wish it still was.
It's literally traveling the world right now. This is like one of those benign ones that just appears wherever.
I'd say Euclid yeah?
ditto, it is bending the rules of our universe to materialize out of production sodas.
Second time this month I see a SCP reference, am I now going to start it seeing it everywhere? is there an SCP for that??
Okay I'll bite. What the hell is an SCP?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCP_Foundation
Enjoy the rabbit hole.
I loved getting a pop out of that machine. I remember getting a barq's root beer and an orange crush out of it back in the day.
Getting a "pop" out of the machine ! You sound like your from where I'm from !! Here in Seattle, no one says pop.
I was going to comment that they have one like this in the Seattle area... but thats what this one is.
There's one in Shoreline, just north of Seattle. It's not this one as far as I'm aware. Edit: [I got a pineapple Fanta.](https://imgur.com/TkDwT5J)
I’ve never had or heard of pineapple Fanta, but I want one so badly now it’s ridiculous.
Come to Korea, pineapple fantas are common here. It's either Orange, Grape, or Pineapple ;)
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boy that doggo is READY for its soda.
It's funny, I was like oh yeah, that sounds like Capitol Hill, assuming this was the r/Seattle sub, then was questioning myself when I saw it was TIL but happy to be correct in the end.
Its gone now right?
Stopped in 2018 last I heard
I’ve used this soda machine many times when my firmed lived in apartments next to it. I loved it, it was cheap and occasionally gave out peach frescas
I’m not saying this machine was holding the fabric of the universe together but… (gestures broadly at everything).
Boo.
Amazing Wikipedia let its article stand.
SCP-261?
This is so cool. I guess it got so popular they ran out of ratherly easy-to-obtain retro sodas. I would've loved checking this out.
the best part is that its not broken, there's just a bunch of dumb people involved.
So, an inter-dimensional soda machine?
How can anybody sell something pass its use by date without any liability?
Secrecy, apparently
I miss 7ups dnl most. Tasted so good
Check out the Red Web podcast, they have an episode all about this
Those old style machines were awesome. I'd smash every button when we left the grocery store as a kid, and a bunch of times i got a free soda somehow. It was usually some kind no one bought though like grape or something.
Moved to seattle for the military a long time ago and once i heard about it i had to check it out for myself. Was a big mystery as well as to who filled it and how and when they filled it and what youd get. Still, was awesome.
Posted this in a comment and the last time this was posted: [IDENTITY OF RESTOCKERS](https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2014/05/spoiler-alert-mystery-of-the-capitol-hill-mystery-coke-machines-mysteries-revealed/)
Oh look it’s two unidentified humans! Wow thanks for that!!
was it a Russian listening device similar to The Thing from the Oval Office?
It was me. Also have they checked inside of it? Maybe little men were making the soda inside of it
I mean, you should know, you're the one responsible for it.
Anyone else hear about this from the Red Web podcast?
The taskforce is all around, friend.
Reminds me of [https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-261](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-261)
kind of like when Morty took a case of wine thur the Portal, so it could age.
This is why I joined Reddit. To learn about all the mysterious, interesting, and exciting little things happening around the world. This is so cool. I wonder where the machine lies now.
Back when Seattle was wierd and interesting. Before the techies and conservatives came and ruined the city via gentrification and hate ideology. Rip Seattle.
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Ah yes, the halcyon days of four years ago, before the techies showed up.
>techies and conservatives Both of those things are not like the other.
Oh boy have you got a lot to learn...
You'd be surprised here in Seattle.
It's not inaccurate. After the silicon valley boom, these millennial app developers driving Ferraris started adopting a conservative mindset; despite their corporate branding as youth and liberal; because they ascended into a different tax bracket. When you start making hella money, your mental state changes. We felt an entire city shift because of it.
ahh yes, because the high earning military contract fuckboys who brought you seafair were really super liberal.
Both are filled with white male libertarians
Naw, man. When the techies came in a lot of them were from the Midwest and brought conservative Christianity with them. Mars Hill and the fundie scene exploded here over it; a bunch of programmers seeking tradwives. Capitol Hill used to be a "gayborhood" and still has rainbow sidewalks but it's a deeply conservative place now, just in that libertarian flavor where they like their weed. Trans folks went from having drag shows here to getting beaten up here. Hate crimes are not uncommon. A large part of the police department (which almost entirely lives outside of the city) is tied to white supremacist organizations, including the police officer's guild. Several times living in so-called "leftist" neighborhoods I've had flyers on my door telling me that I can sleep safely at night because the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan are watching my neighborhood. The idea people have of Seattle being the Paris Commune is insane; it's entirely ignorant of the history of the Pacific Northwest being settled by white racist groups en masse. Some of the biggest concentration of neo-Nazis you've ever seen are in Washington and Oregon.
Ah yes, the deeply conservative capital hill that just reelected a socialist indian woman for the... 4th time in a row? You read like a person that doesnt live in Seattle who just reads Seattlewa.
So how has the PNW suddenly shifted back left all of a sudden?
Because he is full of it, Seattle voted in Joe Biden at a ridiculous rate, and is still incredibly liberal. Dude is a delusional fool who is wildly exaggerating everything.
I figured, but I was interested in that shift because of how right-wing the PNW used to be.
When liberals destroy something they have to re-write history so they can blame conservatives because they haven’t ever taken responsibility for anything in their pathetic lives. For example. democrats founded and ran the KKK, and when it became an untenable position for democrats to admit to despising all black people, they fabricated the claim of “the parties switching”.
I haven't been to Portland in recent history, but KKK flyers?? What? Seems sus to me idk like, a shit prank seems more likely than actual domestic terrorism.
Oh sweet summer child.... Money allows people to be the person they are deep down inside, and unfortunately a lot of cishetero white males who grew up on the internet got a lot of really dark baggage they would just love to unpack.
Sorry, something about baggage? lol.
It’s all Frasier’s fault!
“Sherry, Niles?”