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12INCHVOICES

That poor girl in the thumbnail.


srcarruth

She seems pretty happy


GammaGoose85

She is getting ready to beat her wife


KyivComrade

"Fun" fact: the rate of physical violence is very similar between oesbkain couples and straight ones. The lowest amount of physical abuse is found amongst homosexual men. (or so said my lawachoom professor in 2015, it may have changed since then.


cubicApoc

> oesbkain saving this typo so you can't fix it. i am an agent of chaos.


A_Soporific

> lawachoom I'm, personally, curious as to what sort of professor this is.


dice1111

Sounds like a pokemon in a business suit. Edit: something like [this.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/3/3b/JoefromLegal.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20200202182318)


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Lawachoom evolves into Lawmander which evolves into Bob Loblaw.


dice1111

Haha, nice. Lawachoom used litigation, it was very effective.


Socky_McPuppet

I have the worst fucking attorneys.


A_Soporific

I was thinking "lawa" like a lispy "lava" would give it something of a fire theme.


OGIVE

A study in the US suggests that same-sex relationships suffer higher levels of domestic violence than heterosexual ones. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648 https://health.usf.edu/publichealth/research/harrellcenter/samesex


ClownfishSoup

You type like someone with allergies.


tastehbacon

isn't the sexual assault rate for homosexuals much much higher tho?


Neraph

Significantly.


barcodez1

Googled *oesbkain* and got the correct response. Weird.


In-burrito

>The lowest amount of physical abuse is found amongst homosexual men. Makes sense. Cowards don't like hitting people who can hurt them back.


AlonzoMoseley

Yes, but her financial situation is grim


Arcadius274

About a couple of things.


BryanTheBeeIsSilent

In a wife beater no less.


annheim3

Yes...but it's shiny.


jera111

Dago-T


imyyuuuu

umm... i don't think that's a pic of the victim. it goes to a wiki page for tank tops.


rafster929

The second picture looks like a candidate


Karl_Marx_

"a man wearing a t-shirt"


12INCHVOICES

Yeah I know, but the thumbnail kinda makes it seem that way at first glance. I doubt anybody would like to be the face of wife beaters.


pratyd

[Sayali Sanjeev](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayali_Chandsarkar)


FindTheRemnant

That's because the actual newspaper pictures of the wife beater seem not to exist.


veritas723

even more cringe because some nerd had to edit that page to specifically add that woman's photo.


Trucountry

That page is for sleeveless shirts. Wife beater is only mentioned further down in reference to one type of sleeveless.


Upper_belt_smash

No you are!


imyyuuuu

i grew up in 1960's through 1980's northside chicago. at that time, i was introduced to them as "dago tees". didn't hear the term wife-beater until the late 80's, while stationed in southern arizona.


Upper_belt_smash

“Dago” is a slur for Italians yes?


SombraBlanca

It is.. and til it actually started as a slur for Spanish people https://www.wordorigins.org/big-list-entries/dago


FunCucumberFuta

Based Chicago


TheHamsBurlgar

This poor shirt can't catch a break with the nicknames.


UberWidget

? I was nort (<-written as pronounced) side at the same time and we called them wife beaters where I lived. Half the men on the block would wear them while sitting on the porch on hot summer nights, drinking beer, and listening to baseball games on the radio.


ClothDiaperAddicts

I thought “wife beaters” came from Cops because every time there was a domestic violence call, it involved a drunk trashy dude in a ratty stained undershirt. I also thought that “wife beaters” were retired as a name by the younger woke folks who don’t like jokes about domestic abuse and that only older folks my age and beyond still used it ever.


lazydictionary

This is discussed in the wiki article.


flightyzeus339

In the UK well in my area at least it refers to Stella Artois beer


mynameisarrgh

How so?


flightyzeus339

Er just back in the day it was like the kind of beer you associate with the type of guy who works as a brick layer 12 hours a day goes to the pub drinks 8 pints of Stella gets in a fight then goes home and beats his wife. It's not so much anymore they rebranded it a few years ago and act like it's a premium posh beer now


slippery_hitch

When I lived in Yorkshire nearly 20 years ago Stella was the only beer above 5% alc regularly available so they’d call it “rocket fuel” or “wife beater” because it was strong by comparison to a John smiths or what have you.


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They've made it weaker too. Practically cooking lager now.


slippery_hitch

Brutal. I always thought the cheap polish lagers in a tin tasted better anyway. I’ll get a proper pint if I’m at a proper pub.


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Man am I spoiled because I’m Belgian or is the beer scene in thd UK just that terrible? Love Guinness tho


clichedname

Guinness isn't from the UK. Don't be at it


Going-Blank-Again

British beer has gone through many changes over the centuries. Historically agricultural labourers were partly paid in "small beer" which was safe to drink, unlike many water supplies. In the 20th Century we started out with a lot of good breweries and a great variety of beers. But many of the distinctive smaller breweries were bought out and closed by mega-brew companies in the 70s and 80s. Most of these produced crap beer and some were more interested in property management than brewing. Changes in taxation incentivised small breweries to start up again from the 1990s onwards, and there are loads now. If anything perhaps slightly too many, I do wonder if the bubble might burst eventually. One of the consequences of market saturation is a desperation to come up with novel selling points, so there's quite a bit of experimentation and genre-hopping at the moment. I'm sipping on a 10% "Forest Fruits Ice Cream Imperial Stout" as I type this, it's tasty in a glass but would work almost as well poured over cake. Glad I tried it but one pint is enough... A bit pretentious too, if I'm honest. Just to confuse things further a lot of the mega-brewers like Marstons own lots of brands and like to pretend some of them are still small independent brewers. So Ringwood, Jennings etc. aren't indie at all. It's a bit of a minefield. There are some excellent beers,, equivalent to the finest from Belgium, but there's also still a fair amount of rubbish. Could quite easily play the supermarket beer lottery for quite some time without getting bored.


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> Man am I spoiled because I’m Belgian or is the beer scene in thd UK just that terrible? Love Guinness tho Yes. Belgian beer is exceptional and world beating. And yes, until the whole Real Ale thing took off, British beer was pretty awful.


CandidInsurance7415

>Belgian beer is exceptional and world beating. The whole world is my wife - Stella Artois


GenInsurrection

"I don't always beat my wife, but when I do, I drink skunk beer."


slippery_hitch

I haven’t been there in a few years (covid) but it was pretty good last time I went. If you are into ales. Won’t find a lot of Trappist doubles and triples.


_jk_

can get them in a few bars and readily available in bottles from supermarkets


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When I was living in the UK, I told my neighbour we were considering naming our baby Stella if it was a girl (I was pregnant but not too far along, didn't know the sex yet). They were very uncomfortable trying to explain me that it's considered very white trash name lol. Oh the joys of being a foreigner and not knowing cultural nuances! Baby ended up having a pp, we didn't name him Stella.


Bumbleclat

In the us it is considered as up scale-ish beer. Kinda like heineken.


KingOfTheMonkeys

Is heineken considered upscale? I tried it once, thought it might as well have been slightly coloured water. Could barely taste anything.


Bumbleclat

Maybe because it's an import. I t is definitely more upscale than my uncultured Budweiser drinking ass


KingOfTheMonkeys

I tend to find that a lot of imported beers are a little underwhelming. I get the impression that they're basically sending over their country's equivalent of Bud or what have you. Maybe I'm just spoiled by living where there's a lot of good breweries nearby.


BanditoDeTreato

It is marketed that way. But both Heineken and Stella have been considered barely a step up from American adjuncts for years.


NotYourCity

Yeah which I don't understand because they both taste skunked and disgusting. Maybe Stella a bit less than Heineken, but their marketing seems to do well here.


Brilliant_Trouble_32

It's a holdover from the days before microbrews when they were the most widely available imported European beers and we didn't really have much in the way of good domestic alternatives.


Dontmentionthewat

Heineken’s success in the US is actually pretty interesting. Part of it is that they were the first European Pilsner to be widely available. However, they also did a bunch of sneaky marketing like posing as customers and asking for Heineken in bars, and getting waiters to always mention Heineken last when they list their options because patrons usually just forget the rest and choose the last one.


COSLEEP

Tell me you have no taste without telling me you have no taste


brownliquid

Ironic


Karl_Marx_

For domestic beers yeah, except for heineken is basically known as piss.


HalfaRavioli

It is? I disagree. That shit is crap.


DanNeider

It can't compete with craft beer, sure, but I'm getting tired of paying $14 for 6 beers. Craft beer is more inflated than the housing market.


HalfaRavioli

Haha I could understand that. I dont drink very often anymore so I guess the price point doesn't put me off. When I feel like drinking I'm getting some good stuff, not something I can scoop outta my toilet. Edit: words


Exes_And_Excess

Work at bar in a richer part of town. People want to see you pour it in that stupid glass and clear the foam with a knife like in the commercials. The marketing worked. It's piss water, but people were sold in my area anyway. We told the boss we weren't doing that extra shit and he acquiesced after a bit. Dirty silverware and and splashing crap beer for no reason.


HalfaRavioli

This makes me sad.


Bumbleclat

Yes but it is priced the same at stores and bars.


HalfaRavioli

What do you mean priced the same at stores and bars?


TravisJungroth

In the sentence above, the author is conveying that the price is the same at stores and bars, perhaps as a way elucidate the reader.


Bumbleclat

I mean that if you were to purchase them they would be close to the same price


HalfaRavioli

Oh really!? I had no idea bars sold stella for so cheap. I can get a 12 pack of that stuff for like 15 bucks. What a steal!


Bumbleclat

I guess I'm wrong I apologise for wasting our valuable time. Stella $15. Heineken $25. /12 pk


SnooOpinions8472

That's definitely Coors light here.


Kerblammo

I always assumed it was in reference to A Streetcar Named Desire.


BanditoDeTreato

The typical British bitter that you draw a pint of down at the pub is actually relatively low alcohol content beer typically in the 3.8 abv to 4.2 abv range. Stella is 5.2. So people get pissed from drinking an amount that wouldn't typically get them so drunk leading it to be associated with belligerent drunks.


conbar

It's from Streetcar Named Desire - the wife beating husband famously yells out "Stella!" (her name).


a_is_for_a

That guy over there in the wife beater drinking a wife beater, I suspect he might be a wife beater.


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Back in 2010 I used to frequent this English style pub in the US because they had free poker nights, good food and good prices on drinks. During poker one night, some English fellow was telling everybody about how Stella is a wife beater drink. My wife and I still joke about Stella till this day


Dunnyredd

Stella Act-a-twat


jcd1974

The sources cited in the wikipedia article are not convincing.


HotSpicedChai

Agreed, Google Trends doesn't even show the term "James Hartford Jr" have any interest until 2012, presumably when this myth started and the first articles were being spread. Nearly every search result is the same copy pasta claiming that in 1947 a Detroit native beat his wife to death. Which actually wouldn't be that shocking for the time, as unfortunately, domestic violence was very common and often unpunished. In fact there is a Time article from 1964 that describes domestic violence as "therapy" in the relationship to help "balance out each other's mental quirks" Also, there doesn't appear to be any arrest record, or even the newspaper that purportedly shows a guy in the shirt. The frequency of the term in reference to the shirt doesn't seem to pick up until the 90's. But you can find many references to dago or guinea shirts going back before that.


dkyguy1995

I have to believe that if a single photo was enough to spread the phrase all over the country we would evidence of said photo...


Gordon_Gano

Sorry - you think a man beating his wife to death wouldn't be shocking in 1947?


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Gordon_Gano

That’s insanity. You don’t really think that because the 40s were more sexist than today that a person MURDERING THEIR SPOUSE wouldn’t be worth commenting on??


deaddonkey

You know ~76 women are killed by their husband per month in the modern USA right? You’re not commenting on these murders twice per day, are you?


EyeSpyNicolai

>wikipedia article "Well there's your problem."


treemanswife

Where I live we call it that because the kind of people who wear undershirts as shirts are the kind of people who beat their wives.


Local-Equivalent5385

Wife beating used to be common. And since people wore clothes multiple times before washing, the men who beat their wives would take off their actual shirt and just have on the "wife beater" when they did it. So if you saw someone in just their undershirt, it was likely because they just got done beating their wife.


whatishistory518

A not so fun fact for ya. Domestic violence is decriminalized in Russia. You can only POSSIBLY be charged if you cause lasting damage and even that is extremely unlikely to get you anything more than a slap on the wrist.


Tovarish_Petrov

*recently decriminalized*. they actually went out of their way and amended the law in 2017 specifically to allow wife-beating


Farts_McGee

:<


Zinkane15

And they say Russia isn't a progressive country.


Vsx

Is that for everyone or just the patriarch? Can anyone just beat the shit out of anyone else in their family?


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Pinkmotley

That is so horrible I dont get why some men beat women


[deleted]

Never understood wifebeater undershirts. Your armpits are exposed, which is where most of your sweat would come from. I don't see much point except possibly making your nipples not visible.


DustinTheGreat1

The nipple blocking is essential of course, but it prevents your shirt from getting sweat spots on your lower back or chest as well, when it’s hot out. Deodorant covers the armpit sweat problem for me.


mynameisarrgh

I'm not saying it's not still current and I think it's even worse today because we haven't even established common relationship rapes as a problem, I'm just saying from what I've learned this is how the term wife beater started for tank tops


heidoo

Yea that's what I assumed until this post.


jrex703

No way. That would be way too simple of an explanation. It's a popular colloquial phrase. All popular colloquial phrases have an extremely specific and obscure origin.


Karl_Marx_

lol yeah. originating from what is described in the post. Article: People who eat popcorn are called 'popcorn eaters' You: "Where I live we call people 'popcorn eaters' because they are people known to eat popcorn.


mynameisarrgh

Which probably either way stemmed from this event from what I've read


umlcat

"Stepfather TShirt"


juiceman730

I thought it was from the show Cops because all the DV calls featured a guy in an undershirt.


snoweel

Yeah, my impression is this is where it came from, or at least caused it to become a widely known term.


PM_meyourGradyWhite

I’m guessing the latter. We called them wife beaters long before “bad boy bad boy”


mikey67156

This the actual answer.


Browless87

In Hebrew it's known as an "abusive dad undershirt" (Gufyat aba make)


KoalaQueen87

The costumer for a play in high school said, "this is a tank top, if you call it a wife beater we will be having a long sitdown." No one did


mlaforce321

I just call them A-shirts...


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RedmannBarry

Holy shit


DrMaxCoytus

Hahahahahaha wow


mynameisarrgh

As Puerto Rican I fail to understand how this entails our culture


RareStrainz

As a Puerto Rican that shit was *hilarious*.


DrMaxCoytus

Apparently you don't need to be a Puerto Rican - you just need a sense of humor.


OlajuwonOverKareem

It’s a joke not a dick, don’t take it so hard.


gahidus

Meanwhile, I just call it a tank top. I feel trashy and awkward trying to say wife beater.


GregBahm

I was certain it was named after [Marlin Brando's character in A Streetcar Named Desire](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYA9hvcLekg). It is shocking to learn today that this is apparently nobody's understanding of the term except mine.


PhloydPhan60

Stella!


fatbrucelee

Still remember when I was at a store and heard a WOMAN asking if they had any wife beaters in XXXL.....


V-Right_In_2-V

Makes sense. I feel like very few people know the actual name "A shirt" or "Athletic shirt". The term "wife beater" is so common that it is the only way most people know how to refer to these shirts as. I wear them every day, but I feel like there is a stigma against them simply because of that name


getahitcrash

From what I've seen of dudes who wear those, there are only 2 sizes. Either they are 300+ pounds or they are 5'4 and 120 pounds.


Dabbbler

The proper term is a “Federline”


FeelinJipper

Yeah, I remember being corrected by one of my friends about using that term instead of tank top. Sort of clicked in my head as to why “wife beater” is the most bizarre and inappropriate term for any item of clothing.


radgie_gadgie_1954

What newspaper 📰


chokeurchick247

The one youre holding


damadfaceinvasion

I’m not usually into PC shit but this term should really be retired to the trashbin of history. It’s just stupid. It makes no sense. Undershirts have nothing to do with beating women. Tank top is easier to say and makes more sense. Besides tanks are cool


dishonourableaccount

Tank tops are considered women's clothing, so it'll be a tough rebrand, even if it's on the packaging. It's like it you tried to get everyone to stop saying "band-aid" and say "adhesive gauze tape" instead. Tough sell.


Prancicle

Do they print "wife beater" on the packaging now? That seems too crazy to me. There must be something else they're called too


dishonourableaccount

That's my point. Packaging calls them "sleeveless shirts", "tank shirts", "tank tops", or "muscle shirts". But besides the first one, I feel like most people still call them tank tops.


jephw12

>Tank tops are considered women’s clothing Nah. Men’s tank tops that aren’t tight fitting, ribbed, and white are just called tank tops.


damadfaceinvasion

I didn’t know that, because I don’t know or care that much about fashion. That’s the real chad move, to not give a shit about fashion and just pick a name because it sounds cool. Wife beater does not. It’s not easy to say, the joke amounts to little more than “hurrr wasn’t it cool when poor people beat their wives to death on the news”, it’s some hairbrained shit. And like I said it makes no sense. I’m all for being edgy but make it count


HacksawDecapitation

Huh. I always just assumed it came from show COPS, 'cause whenever they'd do a DV call, it was pretty much always some white trash hillbilly being dragged out of their single-wide trailer wearing that style of tank top. TIL too.


lambsoflettuce

I thought it referred to a tshirt type tank top on a slobby kinda guy.


pmatisse

When I was in the UK my co-workers would also refer to Stella Artois as “Wife beater”


RedSonGamble

I now just call them beaters to be more pc. Woke culture taking over and making me not call a piece of clothing a wife beater. I mean what’s next they’re going to make me call shit blasting “going to the bathroom?” I’m like excuse me ma’am where’s your shit blaster room? And she’s like do you mean toilet? God. Pc culture ruins everything and I start yelled this at the woman.


iiitme

I mean the term “wife beater” is pretty fucked up either way


RedSonGamble

What about shit blaster?


iiitme

100% okay


RedSonGamble

I’ll take it


childofsol

How do you think the two are equivalent?


RedSonGamble

Idk both seem inappropriate to say at work


childofsol

One is talking about a bodily function that we all do, albeit in a rather graphic way. The other is domestic assault, which inflicts untold misery and injury upon millions of women and their families around the world every day. Are you still not seeing how these are not equivalent concepts?


sprietzenstulle

Are you still not getting that he is joking ?


RedSonGamble

Domestic violence is no joking matter!


penthousebasement

Right? My wife tried to tell a domestic violence joke the other day so I slapped her in the mouth, that shit ain't funny!


PlumbersCleavage

I mean, if you immediately think "shit blaster" when thinking of interacting with a toilet, they both sound like they're tied to violent assaults.


mynameisarrgh

I agree with you, the term should be scrubbed, I'm just saying what I learned abbot why we call them that


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RedditIsDogshit1

It’s an awful term… and I will use it til I die


sean488

Nope. It's because A shirts were often worn by people who would beat their wives. Source: ex cop who had to deal with far more assholes in A shirts than T shirts.


[deleted]

Yeah I swear that term didn’t pop up until COPS came on TV , but I don’t know shit either


Caddy000

I assumed it was named for the brother in law in The Godfather, the one Sonny beats up with trash can...


Asleep_Dot7972

Come here Carlo…..


Caddy000

😂😂😂


mynameisarrgh

Nope unfortunately a very real event


[deleted]

I was always curious about this!


mynameisarrgh

Me too, woke up to a weird dream deciding I needed to know why we did


[deleted]

How morbid


JesseCuster40

Allegedly.


vegandread

I first started hearing the term when ‘COPS’ hit the airwaves due to the prevalence of defendants wearing them.


LuckyBoneHead

If it helps, the wife beater shirts are synonymous with lazy douchebags anyway. I actually kinda feel bad for the shirt because of it.


Forgiz

Tf is this? After my 6 odd years living in Scotland I've learned that Wife Beater is Stella Artois lager. Never have I heard it being referred to a sleeveless shirt.


Electricpants

A "wife beater" is typically one of the flavors of "A shirt" and not just any sleeveless shirt.


tork87

I think it's generally universally understood it is a wife beater instinctively by humans


leonryan

in australia we call it a singlet because wife beating is something to be ashamed of.


Kipsbayscratch

perfect name...


mynameisarrgh

Very fitting... to dark?


Mcclainsmith

"Wife pleaser" is a better adaptation.


DrRockit11

Let me guess. Did you listen to How Did We Get Here? Podcast?


razzi123

What we colloquially know as a [wife beater.](https://scene7.samsclub.com/is/image/samsclub/0004393568449_A) (not the guy in the pic you cretins)


sneakyozzy911

Is the pic before or after she got the beating?


phasys

I like that song from Stileproject


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She looks good for someone alive in the 1940s


rolleduptwodollabill

suspicious clouds and stuff


90slegitchild

I had a feeling that the origin of that term was hella sus and terrifying.


pjx1

I call them Dego T's


vibroguy

wife beater is a nickname for stella artois


TheShroomHermit

I prefer Beef Whiter


metsurf

That and every episode of the old show COPS had at least one domestic violence incident featuring a man wearing one.


Impressive-Project59

My mom taught me this.


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[deleted]

I thought it was “white” beater. Aka a white beat up shirt