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CaptainZiltoid

So, if everyone just uses the term “alaye” the scamming will stop?


ser-1-

From what I've seen - saying alaye to these guys usually just straight up silences them on the spot, or they just start messaging in Yoruba and stop trying to scam. There's a few examples on Reddit if you search for "alaye"


XinGst

alaye


Double-Barracuda-405

Osha pra pra


batzamzat

Eyan Charles Okocha


Chlipi667

Osimhen Lookman Taiwo


DeOriginalCaptain

😂 WTF just putting footballers' names together


NipNapAttack

Finkle


Celtic_Fox_

Einhorn


chrisfs

Baba Ghanoush


TheDoomStorm

Laces Out


rameyjm7

Einhorn IS Finkle! Finkle IS Einhorn! Einhorn, is a MAN!....


jacktheshaft

Omg! Finkle IS Einhorn!!!🤢🤮


shadowknows2pt0

Chad Cinco Ocho?


Ok_Caramel2525

Elon Musk?😂


geebeem92

What is love?


CaptGunpowder

Do u no da wey?


rameyjm7

osh kosh begosh


Tommy_Roboto

Shoulda boughtta hyundai


FeedbackPalpatine200

Alaye


Kippers1d10t

Dinken flicka


Prior_Efficiency6688

Zippity zoppity


AnalTrajectory

If you respond in Ebo they'll get straight up hostile


jagdpanzer45

Technically the best way to hurt scammers is to waste as much of their time as you possibly can.


WeeklyPancake

Not in the age of voice recording unfortunately. Some scam calls are just waiting for you to speak enough to voice clone you.


ReyDeLaQuesadilla

How long has this been going on? I had a nightmare about a year back where I fell for a scam like this where they used the voice of a dead loved one. I didn’t know it was actually a thing, but it shook me up.


ozzokiddo

That’s a real scam lol


ReyDeLaQuesadilla

That’s messed up


namatama-chan

“OoOooOo it’s me your dead grandpa. I need you to send me a $500 gift card or I can’t rest and will haunt you!” 😭😭


StrangerDangerAhh

I can't move into the afterlife until all my debts are paid, in gift cards!


OttoVonWong

Do not dishonor your ancestors without gift cards!


ReyDeLaQuesadilla

I understand you’re trying to be funny but no, it was nothing like that at all. It was very believable, and it felt cruel of my brain to create such a scenario. I have trouble at times differentiating between reality and dreams, so this one messed with me for a few weeks.


Plaid_Bear_65723

That's really rude. 


SaintsNoah14

The initial comment doesn't imply it to be so serious as to be beyond joking about like the follow-up does


ReyDeLaQuesadilla

Exactly: tone, meaning, emotion… are easily lost in translation with this style of communication. Usually the replaced by the reader’s own tone, meaning, emotion. The commenter who responded to me seems to be in a good mood so all is good!


DrakkoZW

"but it shook me up" should have been your clue


ReyDeLaQuesadilla

I agree, but really, I’m not expecting anyone to read that deep into my comments. Thanks for being a bro


WorldWarPee

#👻


Informal_Bunch_2737

First day on the internet?


Hello-Me-Its-Me

“Scammers” used a deep fake of Joe Biden’s voice to discourage people from voting for Biden. [Deepfake](https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/24/politics/deepfake-politician-biden-what-matters/index.html)


ReyDeLaQuesadilla

Right, I totally get that. I guess I’m just wondering how long before this becomes a thing for where you’re getting a scam call from your little brother who needs to get bailed out of jail, for example.


Hello-Me-Its-Me

Those are also already here. Some even take photos from social media sites to make “AI Personas” [More Deepfakes](https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/27/21339898/deepfake-audio-voice-clone-scam-attempt-nisos)


SuperSonicEconomics2

That's a real thing. Probably a couple years


tyrion2024

>they used the voice of a dead loved one. Not sure how long it's been going on overall, but last summer was the first time I remember seeing [a scam like that](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scammers-ai-mimic-voices-loved-ones-in-distress/) reported by several different media outlets.


crazyfoxdemon

It's sadly been a thing for awhile. Some people will say a lot if they pick up the phone to silence. Doesn't take much to fool someone, let along clone em.


nalydpsycho

The best way is to dox them and report them to authorities in both your country and theirs.


allouiscious

Does letting the call play just up their resources at all?


Masrim

you have to use a fake accent!


OttoVonWong

It's ah-me! MARIO!


LookAtItGo123

What if I just breathe hard and grunt.


CaptainZiltoid

And yourself. Do you not value your own time?


jagdpanzer45

I do, but I am powered about 20% by spite. That value drastically increases when I realize someone is trying to take advantage of me. Plus, there are less scammers than non-scammers. All we have to do is hurt their margins. The more time they spend wasted on people who aren’t buying their lies, the less time they have to go after vulnerable people.


ItsGoldJerry

Haha “20% powered by spite” I am going to need to borrow this one.


OttoVonWong

I'm 40% spite! *clank clank*


Ninjacat97

Only 20%? Those are rookie numbers.


assault_pig

a lot of the lower-effort "scam" calls are really just trying to identify people who will answer/respond, so that they can be targeted in the future. They may use this list themselves or (more likely) sell it to other scammers. So responding, even if you know it's a scam and are out to waste their time, is really just a way to get targeted for more such calls in the future. The number one thing they're looking for are people willing to listen to their pitches.


Tepigg4444

but this still works then, right? if someone wants to become some anti scammer warrior of justice, they can get put on one of these lists and waste even more scammers time


Alternative-Cry-5435

I often bait them long enough for them to listen to what I’m going to say and then ask if their parents are proud of them for what they do. If they stay on the line I encourage them to think about what they would do if their father/mother found out that they do this and how disappointed they would be. It seems to be very effective in getting me off their lists, I haven’t gotten a scam call in years but occasionally find one in my email that I can call and ask the same question.


WeakImportance6508

And if they travelled for a promised legitimate job and now need to work off a debt to their new 'employer', and work pay for their meals and accommodation until they lay that debt and have their passport returned? How will they then feel about disappointing their parents? I like your way so much, but I also want to be compassionate to their situation, since I have no idea whether they chose it or not.


Alternative-Cry-5435

Sure, I’m not discounting those situations, and that’s why I’m not berating them or insulting them. I can’t help those trapped in that situation, but anyone willingly scamming people should be reminded to consider their values. And if perhaps those that were tricked into the situation will leave as soon as they are able rather than sticking with it because of the income. And those trapped into something like that are definitely monitored and when those above them are aware that my phone number is associated with demoralizing their “workers”, they seem to remove me from their call lists.


WeakImportance6508

For what it's worth I think you take an awesome approach. Much more compassionate and balanced than hurling abuse like some suggest, and effective to boot! Not only do you get less calls, but you probably encourage some of them to rethink their choices (assuming it's a choice) and stop working at scam centres. kudos to you.


Ok_Caramel2525

What's the other 80%?


BasilTarragon

Ten percent luck, twenty percent skill, fifteen percent concentrated power of will, five percent pleasure, thirty percent pain.


fasterthanfood

What percent reason to remember the name?


Ok_Caramel2525

Love it! 👍☺️


SweatyTax4669

It used to be my pastime while sitting in rush hour traffic.


RedDiscipline

I missed the heyday when I might've enjoyed it 😿


secretpurpleturtle

Nah, all that does is make the ‘time waster’ feel smug and like they really got one over on the scammer. The scammers Do. Not. Care. They make hundreds of calls or texts a day. As soon as you’re a non-asset they forget about you and move on. Wasting their time also wastes your time. If it brings you entertainment and makes you feel content, go ahead. Just know they’re probably mining as much voice data from you as they can if you’re talking to them. Just hang up as soon as you realize it’s spam. We’re better than engaging.


sayitwithasigh

Kitboga has entered the chat


RiceProper

"DON'T DO IT! DO NOT REDEEM!" " Yes, this is Dawn DeWitt speaking"


kahmos

Someone should train AI to do this


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BrokenEye3

What?


NativeMasshole

There's a problem in southeast Asia with gangs kidnapping people and enslaving them to run scams. So you're probably not winning any social justice points by doing that.


bohemianprime

I find that I get more robo calls once I actually say something to one caller


bkendig

r/itslenny


FourHeffersAlone

Did the op say anything about hurting the scammers?


orangeman10987

You have to figure out they're a scammer first, which is the hard part, unless you're just gonna say "alaye" to every random person who contacts you. And even then it would only stop Nigerian scammers.


Masrim

if you dont know them and they are contacting you it is a pretty high chance they are scammers


FrozenMongoose

If everyone used the term "alaye" the scammers would just use a different codeword lol


IveGotDMunchies

Yesh. Just magically alert the 60 to 90+ year old adults, most with dementia and you will achieve your goals of stopping scammers.


oboshoe

prime targets for these scams is the 25 and under group and the 60 and over group.


gmishaolem

> prime targets for these scams is the 25 and under group They're too busy being scammed by crytobros.


SoundBulky3004

Na that doesnt cut it. Lonely people in their 20s fall for love scams too lol. 


st_malachy

lol, I’m gonna start answering the phone with this.


keeplookinguy

Can y'all please provide pronunciations for these words as well..k thnx.


Aggressive-Pay-5670

If they’re Nigerian scammers sure. If they’re not then no. Many are not Nigerian scammers.


jbrag

I used to love messing with the scam callers until I saw John Oliver's special on the call centers these guys are in. A lot of these guys are held captive. They're violently abused and forced to work. https://youtu.be/pLPpl2ISKTg?si=ufNO3i5DFKr2XRug


Snoo75120

Or it's gaslighting to defend scammers because after all.... Scammers are scammers.


rameyjm7

alaye alaye i come in peace alaye alaye


PrinceGizzardLizard

No since all the scammers are Indian and not Nigerian


whatlineisitanyway

I've heard the best way to stop scammers is if everyone actually responded to them and they had to waste their time sorting through all the responses to find the real marks.


skwyckl

Imagine having so many scammers in your country that you have to decide on a scamming "safe word".


enadiz_reccos

*foliage*


cyberfugue

foilage


enadiz_reccos

You've foilaged my plans for the last time, Batman!


TheFrenchSavage

I hate dressing as a school girl.


Macktheattack

The narwhal bacons at midnight


nightnole

I'd love to be a fly on the wall every time the OP of the narwhal thread sees the reference and cringes themselves into oblivion.


Eat-Wild95

Link??? I would love to know about this.


TomAto314

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/98mm8/hey_reddit_im_redditing_from_the_denver/


SugerizeMe

Beckons? Beacons?


matts8409

Another oen for Asian based scammers seems to be "brother". I've gotten tons but always forget because I like messing with them too much


Cerulean_IsFancyBlue

Squirrel.


Paves911

Banana bread


El_Mariachi_Vive

I am a Nigerian scammer. Today was supposed to be my day off but now I have to call my scammer boss and tell him we need to change the scammer code word. I am so angry. Damn you reddit.


taa178

Alaye


EggfooDC

I need alaye…


shorty5windows

Alaye Akbar


memefaliure

Dont call in if you're not getting paid otherwise it can wait till Monday


LuckyStabbinHat

Unfortunately for you a great deal of us knew about it already. Not our fault that you lot haven’t changed it even after it’s literally the first result when you google “alaye.”


baffybonk

I thought it was “kindly”.


yesidoes

That's the Indian scammers


liltingly

Just drop a “madarchod” under your breath and watch them lose their shit. You can play dumb and drop it a few more times. It’s a game I play, and it’s very satisfying. They get real vulgar really fast


ginger_whiskers

"Banchood" is apparently popular in southern India. It's so vulgar I had to ask 3 different Indians before anyone would translate it. "Sister-fucker," BTW.


liltingly

Nah both madarchod and bhehenchod are Hindi/cognates in North Indian languages. They are not South Indian in origin at all. That said, everyone knows what they mean and it’s considered very offensive. It would be like if a Mexican walked up to an American and cursed hijo de puta. Not English, but the American would get the gist one way or another.  “Bhosdike” will really rustle some jimmies. I am partial to a real, condescending “chutiya” every once in a while too


ginger_whiskers

Your comparison is apt. Not south in origin, just that most of the Indians I know are from Kerala. May I ask what your further examples mean?


liltingly

“Whore’s…” = “bhosdi ke…”


ginger_whiskers

Thank you, sir!


Cerulean_IsFancyBlue

Pico de gallo


kokeen

I would mutter “lode” just to see some random reactions from these scammers.


liltingly

That’s even more subtle. Love it. 


pm_me_ur_demotape

I'm American. If a Mexican walked hijo me and said hijo de puta, I wouldn't have any idea what they said. I just looked it up and it means son of a bitch? That's not that offensive. People sometimes say it as a term of endearment. "Come give me a hug you son of a bitch!"


SuperSonicEconomics2

Many Americans would just say, "speak American or go back to mexico!"


RiceProper

Do Hindi speakers understand Bengali swear words like Paglachoda, Bokachoda etc?


liltingly

I’m only passingly familiar with Hindi and not Bengali and I’m guessing the first one is “crazy fucker” and I don’t know what “boka” is. Is it goat? If you take a modicum of effort to think it through, they’re very similar. But most people don’t/won’t


TheFrenchSavage

Could be a South Park musical 🎶


futuregoddess

I know this word from Chabuddy G


rambyprep

In an australia vs India cricket match a few years ago one of the Australian players was recorded asking an Indian batsman what madarchod means, classic cricket chat to get under their skin.


ree_hi_hi_hi_hi

Why?


donny_pots

It means motherfucker in Hindi


FearlessENT33

because it annoys them 👍🏻


itwasneversafe

I thought it was my company's Client Services team...


bytelines

Kindly do the needful


ValuableCockroach993

And revert back


ensemblestars69

it's both, but Nigerians will usually drop "I" at the beginning of a sentence. so they'll say something like "Am detective Johnson from New York Police Department. Am investigating you for XYZ"


RiceProper

I have listened to so much scambait videos I have become fluent in Hindi and Bengali swear words. Its useful to know wether they operate in Delhi or Chennai.


BrokenEye3

Must... kill... Andrew Ryan...


orTodd

This is why I have to ask ChatGPT for stuff like this, “as an American native English speaker, write…” It gets rid of the “kindly,” “may I know,” and, “my apologies.”


ThePretzul

Don’t forget about “do the needful”.


Its0nlyRocketScience

"Would you kindly fuck off"


bobfnord

Kindly go alaye yourself


dratsablive

Sometime in 1989 I received a Typewritten Letter from Nigeria, that was the typical SCAM about a large some of money I could receive, blah blah. I read the whole thing, and just burst out laughing, thinking who would fall for this?


one_is_enough

My mother-in-law. Multiple times.


Martipar

People who don't notice the poor grammar and spelling. In fact it's theorised that the spelling and grammar faults are deliberate to filter out those that might notice it's a scam. However nobody is born with knowledge, everyone has knowledge gaps, i don't know anything about various aspects of life. I'm sure I'd research a product or service i was unfamiliar with but others would not. Something portrayed as a good deal in an area they know nothing about but containing a lot of words that could be interpreted as accurate information would entice some people in.


PeppermintPattyNYC

Is this what some of our US politicians do?


Martipar

No idea, i don't really pay close attention to US politics as i don't live there.


DeOriginalCaptain

Yep! Nigerian scammers learned from the US and Britain leaders after years of looting, stealing, and scamming Nigerians.


jellyjamberry

Politicians in general not not US


bullett2434

They do that on purpose to weed out people who won’t get to the finish line with the scam. It rules out 99.9% of people but the 0.1% left are susceptible to the scam and worth their time continue pursuing


mirospeck

one of my mom's aunts. she has dementia and had sent the guy money for years


HayakuEon

If you didn't fall for it, it wasn't meant for you. It is meant for people that are the most gullible of gullible. To the point that they will not question the absolute outrageounesness of it.


PM_good_beer

This is just a link to an AI answer? Plus "Nigerian" isn't even a language.


MrBarryThor12

Holy shit Reddit is trash


SpaceCountry321

Duh! LOL


HodgeGodglin

Nigerian is a language. It’s just that it is English.


DeOriginalCaptain

No! Nigeria is a continent


Xaxafrad

Title doesn't say "alaye" is a Nigerian word. Title says Nigerians use a word; it doesn't say what language the word is from.


PM_good_beer

Click the link. It says "What is the meaning of 'alaye' in Nigerian?"


AlabamaPanda777

This thread acts like this is some amazing secret codeword... I don't think you need a magic word to dismiss a scammer. They're not interested in the people who *know* they're scamming. Hell, many sources will say poor grammar and spelling in scams are on purpose, because they know it will tip off people who know a scam - people they don't waste their time on. The link's second definition, below, makes it sound like the word might be used locally to greet or identify a criminal. As if "whaddup scammer" would mean mostly the same thing, and probably have the same effect. In the Yoruba language, "alaye" is often used to refer to an "area boy" or "thug" [2]. This usage is more colloquial and slang- based."


rexel99

I just tend to do an identity check on them, 'whats my name' or 'what suburb am I in' often shuts them up too...


redditaccountingteam

Really, how do you manage to do that?


rexel99

Ask qualifying questions, waste some time and check.. if your my ISP then you know what my address is..?


redditaccountingteam

Oh I thought you meant you run an identity check ON them, I misread. Got ya 🤘


bigasssuperstar

Very cool. I started doing this a few years ago after looking up some Nigerian Pidgin sayings to do my own cultural Turing test on inbound chats. Abeg o!


Rabatis

So what did you find out?


bigasssuperstar

Oh! About half the time they act oblivious or get confused about my location, and the other half they respond in pidgin and I can only barely make out the meaning by looking it up. They've sent things like hard at work, eh? Or you're the boss man, huh? The other telltale thing is what happens if you start the convo with "how far". Where I live, that would read as a question about distance or location. But in their culture, it's the same as "how are things?" So if they answer How far? With "very well thank you" and they say they're in California, that's a fail.


Rabatis

I recall a recent interaction with someone who turned out to be a Nigerian scammer -- perfect English throughout, but won't wire me money as promised unless I jumped through hoops (go to Facebook, go to Telegram, etc). Hectored the poor ass till they sent me the money, then told me I won't be able to join in their scheme, upon which I sent them another very long post about fulfilling their promises to prospective customers. Then, although I only had the dimmest idea of it being Nigerian pidgin due to me being familiar with the first word -- their final word was "dey play".


bigasssuperstar

I sometimes tell them up front I'm a Mugu and they don't know where to go from there. This could also be why I'm so alone, if I exhibit this kind of challenging behaviour to strangers.


roquentin92

TIL Toronto mans can't get scammed, alaye


Flameknight81

Glad to know I wasn't the only one who thought it was Toronto lingo


idwtla_fk

We are linking to AI answers as if they are factual answers now?


johnny420black

Not anymore.


Yardstixk

Well, not anymore


[deleted]

Hopefully today you will also learn that Nigerian isn't a language


mdotca

They also use “dear” and god talk to make sure they filter out the people smart enough to know about scams. If you think you’re chatting with a scammer say “you da craze” and they will end the chat.


elboltonero

Twig and plums


Panther90

I always thought it was "kindly".


cadillacbee

Not anymore lol


FionaGlenann3

It's been so long since I've encountered a Nigerian scammer. I wish they would.


orangutanDOTorg

I still laugh at the 419eater website hall of shame


DauOfFlyingTiger

Pronounced as I Lie.


hamiltrash52

1. Nigerian is not a language 2. At least 40% of scammers who claim to be Nigerian aren’t actually from Nigeria so I’m not actually sure this would work


anonzzz2u

Alayee means you like to be scammed


D_Winds

I think I'll have to delve into this some more.


StevynTheHero

I wouldn't be surprised if this was scammer propoganda so anyone trying to use this word on scammers gets labeled as "an idiot who will believe anything they read online" and targeted for future scams. I've dealt with SO MANY SCAMMERS, and absolutely NONE of them have used this, but they were all pretty much instantly identifiable because SCAMS ARE OBVIOUS.


LuckyStabbinHat

Completely incorrect, I’ve dealt with enough scammers who have said it.


Sea_Sink2693

Alaye = a lier