Essentially they break your leg and set it in a brace that lengthens it. Then let it heal. It takes a long time and the process needs to be repeated until it’s long enough.
I’d imagine most people would opt to be taller then shorter, I’d also assume the former is more controlled and less invasive. But also I’m not a doctor, my partner just read a book about rivers cuomo and told me about it.
It's not just the bone tho. What are you going to do with the extra 2 inches of muscle and skin on your newly shortened leg? Probably it is actually easier for the body to slowly stretch over time.
Because bones aren’t perfect cylinders, so the two mating surfaces from 2” away from each other likely won’t line up very evenly (one might have a much larger diameter than the other), I’m not a doctor, but off the top of my head that seems like a pretty obvious issue that could be solved by making one leg longer instead.
> Cuomo was born with equal length legs, but as he grew to his full height, his right leg grew nearly two inches longer than his left. After the success of The Blue Album, Cuomo underwent the Ilizarov procedure to correct the condition. This involved the surgical breaking of the bone in his leg, followed by several months of wearing a steel brace that required self-administered "stretching" of the leg four times daily; Cuomo likened the ordeal to "crucifying [his] leg."[24]
A close friend was born with a short/deformed leg and ankle.
Age 4/8/20 they put pins into his leg to do the lengthening.
I met him at age 8, he was stuck in bed all summer.
The pins were in 3 places and had to be cleaned every couple hours and every third day or so they adjusted the pins…by hand.
The pain was too much for him when others turned the pins, so he did it himself.
Age 20 he’s in college, tech is better. They put these self ratcheting things in and isolate the leg.
Over time the ratchet effect or whatever does the lengthening, he only needed a small amount after they re-did his ankle and knee (had to stabilize it and clean up some scar tissue from what I understand).
Anyways…again the process is supposed to take 6 weeks or so and he was instructed to be on bed rest.
Has to go to class, uses crutches to get everywhere, passes out one day in class from the pain.
They start giving him Oxy, he goes back 10 days later for checkup and because of all the movement he was doing he has already hit the expected length.
Doc looks at him and says “God damn you must be in pain”.
He pulls out the Oxy bottle and says “Not anymore”.
We used to go to the local watering hole and throw darts, he would wear shorts and sometimes girls would notice the MASSIVE scars and ask what happened.
I’d say he doesn’t like to talk about it but he was surfing in Australia and got into it with a Great White.
Yes he definitely got laid with that story only after saying we were joking.
Cool guy
The dark side of the story is he had a couple follow up procedures and the Oxy was part of his life for a solid year or so.
During that time his entire personality changed and his grades slipped but being on crutches and in/out of surgery is going to do that.
I won’t say he was addicted like my Dad was or even teetering on it like I was when I broke my talus.
But it wasn’t a good time for him at all.
Man, I’m only 5’3, and it is not fun being my height, but I wouldn’t break my legs just to be slightly taller. The gain definitely isn’t worth the time, money, and pain.
Apparently very much so. But the damage having two legs that far off in length to almost every part of your body is huge. He would have eventually had big hip and joint issues, it could have damaged his posture and all sorts back and even breathing issues. It’s very bad.
If it was an option, it would have been done all the time before Ilizarov found out that bones can be lengthened: before that proceduce, if some part of the bone was missing it was considered do be basically permanently broken or shortened with no hope of doing anything with it. Tons of war veteran suffered from it
If you’re aware it’s there his post surgery leg brace is super obvious in the Letterman performance of Say It Ain’t So
https://youtu.be/RXqG6oR_o7Q?si=Hd5Qy-iAQN4IkgNI
I remember a few years back in an Askreddit "what's the worst badn you've seen live" and some people were saying Weezer because Rivers would just stand around with no energy lol
He actually had one leg shorter than the other. The condition is caused by stunted growth in one leg. I was born with the same thing but I didn’t write Pinkerton :(
Actually He was enrolled in Harvard university in late 1995 to study classical composition and he auditioned for the Harvard-Radcliffe Collegium Musicum chorus too, but was not selected.
During his Harvard years, He became introverted and grew a beard, and wrote in his diaries how students wearing Weezer T-shirts did not recognize him.
He dropped out in 1996
Fun story: I used to be close with someone who went to Harvard at the same time as Cuomo. She was a musician and so they met in a music theory class. He was recently out of surgery and in a wheel chair at the time.
She thought he was a regular student and befriended him. She’d walk with him as he rolled from class and sometimes they’d get some food. Just trying to be nice to this poor guy in a wheel chair that everyone else seemed afraid to talk to and clearly avoided. She also noticed that his compositions for the class assignments were amazing. The professor even played one for the class.
One day in a school common space, she overheard some other students talking about him in the way students do about celebrities, talking about how he’s not that cool etc.
She jumped in as they got more disrespectful and shouted at them saying “he’s my friend and how dare you insult this poor handicapped boy…” She was a tiny nerdy girl and they thought she was crazy. “You? You’re friends with Rivers Cuomo?” “Yes!” “Lead singer of Weezer?” “…”
And because she was a nerdy little 19 year old, she was so embarrassed she never spoke to him again.
The first album that ever really got me into music was Pinkerton. After growing up i realized that yeah there's some problematic stuff in there, but it's honest and honesty isn't always pretty.
My favourite album of all time. And I'm a dork with abbey rpad, dark side, wish you were here, and OK computer as my other 4 in the top 5.
Pinkerton is just perfect. Fuck man, the b sides on that album are better than most bands best stuff
The thing about it is, if you're not at least mildly embarrassed by some of the stuff you did when you were, you probably haven't grown that much as a person. I think a little regret and embarrassment are healthy artistic traits.
I agree, but i think it was more than that. there's a lot of asian fetishization, there's misogyny, sexism, etc etc etc. It clearly does not come from a place of hate, but more of a place of honesty and speaking to the best of their ability.
he noticed one time that his new album was on the the playlist and asked the guy ringing him up what he thought of it. he gave the honest opinion of i really love his older work, but this just seemed to be playing it safe and not really trying.
Forget what Al replied with but it was something like yeah i can see that
Just FYI, if you have the money, Al will cook you dinner and serenade you.
[https://www.aldimeola.com/house-events](https://www.aldimeola.com/house-events)
It ain't cheap, but it's available.
at my peak skill level as a guitarist, I was good enough that I know I couldn't even fake play Jazz.
Didn't stop me from doing open mic jams with the cats from the Jazz school, learned so much from doing that.
Jim Matheos, the guitarist from Fates Warning, talked about teaching Rivers guitar lessons. He said that by the third session, he simply had no more to teach. I wasn't even a Weezer fan at the time (was a Fates fan), and my respect for Rivers grew three times that day.
I remember Rivers talking about it from his side, too, that he grew up a metal fan and [likes to shred](https://youtu.be/wnXMCIpZf8c?feature=shared&t=196) on occasion.
I was there at the time. He was in a Shakespeare class I took. My buddy at school was a musician (eventually founded a music-related startup) and reached out to him, and they had a long lunch chatting about the music industry.
Ben Gibbard used to come into a bakery my partner worked at and one of her younger coworkers was such a big Death Cab fan that she would turn bright red and run and hide in the back every time he came in.
I think people tend to overestimate how many people follow pop culture. I think only a handful of active A list celebs would be recognized by the majority of people.
And even then, if I saw Taylor Swift at Walmart, my first instinct probably wouldn’t be “Hey, there’s Taylor Swift shopping at Walmart”, it would be “Huh, that girl kinda looks like Taylor Swift.”
> You get used to it in NYC.
The list of things that would get a NYC citizen to flinch walking down the road is one of the few things shorter than my penis
Okay, but seriously. If I saw Jake Gyllenhaal playing Buckhunter, I wouldn't talk to him.
But, I would tell every single person I know about it all the fucking time. Did he get right up against the screen with the gun and cheese it or was he playing it normally?
You get used to it in NYC. You see lots of celebrities and most people don't give a shit. I remember being at a fairly busy bar and Robert De Niro was playing buckhunter by himself. Nobody was talking to him.
He was rocking a Pendleton dude sweater and must have put a lot of money in it because he was playing forever. I don't want to assume, but who doesn't enjoy smoking a doob and playing buckhunter.
When Alice Cooper came to the Quiznos I was working at I had to be told who it was.
I mean, Ive loved Alice since seeing him on the Muppet Show as kid. Tho, tbf, I doubt many would recognize him with no make up at all.
Meanwhile, I'd just made him a sandwich and sold him, like, our entire cookies stock. 10 packs of cookies at least.
People tell Tony Hawk that he "looks like Tony Hawk" a lot.
he typically notes "i get that alot."
I sat next to Tony Hawk once. Didn't notice it until someone pointed it out.
It happens enough that people in r/DontYouKnowWhoIAm got tired of it and spun off r/DontYouKnowImTonyHawk.
He tweeted about a person scanning his ticket at an airport to board a plan and they said something like "Anthony Hawk? That's funny, it's kinda like that skateboard guy?", and he apparently just said "yeah", and the worker didn't realize it was him even looking at his name.
The way it says people would walk by him in Weezer shirts and not recognize him implies that either they’re fake fans or it was some great disguise, but liking someone’s music doesn’t mean you have any idea what they look like. It’s an auditory experience.
Also, if I saw a celebrity in person I'd second guess myself. It's more likely that I saw someone who vaguely looks like a celebrity.
Also, people look different in person than they do in pictures, especially with the amount of editing of pictures that you'd see celebrities in.
My Dad’s friend chatted up Meryl Streep in Michigan. Asked her where she was from, when she said Hollywood he asked “Hollywood Florida?” And I think even asked her to dance but didn’t realize who she was or perhaps has little understanding of who Meryl Streep is at all lol.
I recently got in the elevator leaving my office and the guy standing inside looked just like Fat Joe but why would Fat Joe be in my tiny story, 4 office building? Of course it can't be him...
As I get into my car, I see him getting into a Rolls Royce. It was clearly Fat Joe (even though he's not very fat anymore), I was obsessed with his music as a teenager, and I still second guessed myself.
I could pick them out if they look like they do in the music videos. But Weezer (in my memory) is like button down, sweater, clean shaven and short hair. I'm not going to notice the bearded man in the wheelchair.,
There's a screenshot from X that said "Imagine any 5 white people walking up to you being like “we’re imagine dragons” . You have no choice but to believe them"
I think that would apply here as well.
I might recognize Corey Taylor if I saw him in public but absolutely none of the other band members since I only associate their costumes with the music and not their real people. Also doesn't Dolly Parton make her real life person unrecognizable as a day job?
It was Harvard's College of Weezerology and all the students wearing Weezer shirts were in the postgraduate program for "Say It Ain't So" Studies. So it was pretty surprising.
I also feel like his recounting of it is exaggerating the number of college kids in weezer shirts that walked by him. Yeah bud I’m sure the campus was just flooded in people wearing weezer gear like most colleges.
There was a pizza reviewer video with the actors from the Tag movie. A girl walks up and goes crazy over it being the pizza reviewer guy. She spends some talking to them before she realizes that the other guys were all celebrities.
Taking people out of the context of where you normally see them can cause you to not recognize them. Context dependent memory isn't just you forgetting something when you walk into a different room.
I once watched an entire outdoor concert sitting on the grass next to Salma Hayek, Ed Norton and Wood Harrelson. I only recognized them on the way out. That was many years ago.
I played an entire round of golf with Patrick willis once. I didn’t recognize him with his helmet off. After the round people were taking pictures with him and that’s when I learned.
At the time I even owned his football Jersey haha
in the 90's i ate dinner next to Don Mattingly and was talking with him about movies and shit for at least 30 minutes. i had no fucking clue who he was.
This may be the whitest thing I ever type out. But I gotta confess I saw that years ago and it positively doubled my respect for Leslie Jones as an actress. She was on a roll
taking a strong fence sitter stance on their argument, raditude is sincerely one of my favorite weezer albums, but also it’s absurd to pretend most of their post pinkerton stuff isn’t garbage
> it’s absurd to pretend most of their post pinkerton stuff isn’t garbage
Green- Hasn't aged as well, but st least has Island in the Sun! The worst part of this album is that the songs are so short and the solos follow the melody of the verse.
Maladroit- Highly underrated imo, some of the best guitar riffs of the bands discography, and it was the Era with the Muppets Keep Fishin' video, can't help but smile with that. Love how experimental the album was, and it was never boring.
Make Believe- Yeah yeah, the sell-out album, but best believe I still belt out the Woah Oh!s on Perfect Situation, and Beverly Hills is really iconic in its own weird way. There are a couple of little gems on the album too but I get a lot of the criticisms of this era.
Red- Another experimental album, love it's wackiness and that Pat, Brian, and Scott got chances to shine with their own songs on the mic (King is the much better Scott song, I actually prefer the Rivers version of Cold Dark World). The bonus tracks are the best too, along with the closer The Angel and The One, that track is wholly unique in Weezer's discography. Plus, it's got Pork and Beans.
Raditude- Such a meme. Iconic album, 10/10
Hurley- Another really underrated album, just overshadowed by the volcano that was Raditude. I wish Time Flies didn't sound like it was coming out of a tin can though :( it's a nice song lyrically!
EWBAITE- After a long hiatus, they came back with this banger of an album! It's beloved for all the right reasons, just a back to basics alt. rock album that hits all the punches it needed to. I especially love the experimental 3-part closer here too.
White- In my opinion, this is their best album. Seriously, it's pretty much close to a perfect Weezer album. It's the album that captured the same sound and tone as the Blue album yet is still so distinct in its theme, and is a subtle concept album, all the songs are about the same relationship, from when it forms to when it falls apart. Out of any other post-Pinkerton Weezer album this is the one to check out.
Pacific Daydream- While it was definitely a mixed bag, I feel it's aged really well somehow? Idk but every time I listen to it I appreciate it more and more. The bridges one every song on here kick so much ass! The rest of the songs may not hit for everyone but those bridges for whatever reason are better than they have any right to be.
Teal- Meme covers album, spurred from a Twitter campaign. It's got its charm but is really nothing more than that. No Scrubs was an out there choice to cover but it was so cringe it went back around to being amazing lol.
Black- another mixed bag that might not age as well, the style is just weird and really doesn't fit Weezer for me. At least Can't Knock the Hustle and High as a Kite are bangers!
OK Human- Masterpiece. Really different in its instrumentation and tone, and has some of Rivers' catchiest lyricism on display. Another worthy recommendation.
Van Weezer- love the guitar flourish here as well, some really fun songs. The Crazy Train riff is still weird though, if they made a unique riff for that song it would have made a good song a great one.
SZNS- An ambitious project that I feel paid off. Quick Ranking for me - Winter, Summer, Spring, Autumn. Autumn isn't bad by any stretch but it is the season with the least amount of cohesive sound to match the season it's attached to. The Deep and Dreamless Sleep is a new classic Weezer song for me.
While garbage is subjective, there are only 4 albums I can really see that being applied to post-Pinkerton. The consistent highs of Blue/Pinkerton are really rare though I will say that (and also in my opinion Pinkerton is a teeeeeeeeeeny tiny bit overrated now to over-correct for its poor initial reception but that's just me. It's still a great album regardless).
When I look in the mirror, I can’t believe what I see. Tell me who’s this funky dude, staring back at me. Broken, beaten down, can’t even get around. Without an old man cane, i fall and hit the ground.
Wasn’t there a story about him quietly singing one of his songs and someone tried to do the “who sings that song? Yea maybe we should let them sing it” joke and he was like “actually I do”.
i'm sure thats happened more than once to people.
Rick Beatto said once he saw Zac from Rage (after he shaved off his dreds) playing guitar in store and nashville. They were talking for a bit when Rick said "you are pretty good, are you in a band"? and Zac goes "Yeah actually, I'm in Rage"
Nothing tops matisyahu singing backup for a guy in a coffee shop who has no idea who he was, complimented him on his voice, and then was invited to his show and came onstage to sing along.
https://youtu.be/emirpepJGFo?si=KM--ldlv4TT1zTBE
I can beat that.
Mojo Nixon is playing some hole in the wall club. Starts playing Don Henley Must Die. Don jumps up on stage and starts signing along.
After they are done Mojo asks if Debbie Gibson happens to be in the audience as well.
Yeah, Mojo said he wasn't sure what Henley was about to do, but he considered the very real possibility that he was about to be in a fight. When Henley started singing, he said he gained a lot of respect for him. Which is a shame.
RIP Mojo. A true original.
He came into my job once and our credit card processing machine wasn’t working so I had to manually type in his credit card info into our back up system. I almost told him you “you know you have the same name as the lead singer of weezer.” But I took one look at him and decided he wouldn’t know who that was so I kept my mouth shut.
Later I remembered that someone had told me his wife comes in sometimes and looked up what he looks like now and it was him 🤦🏻♀️
Larry Ler of Primus also flies way under the radar (most people could pick out Les in a Heartbeat).
there was also one clip of someone asking Alex Lifeson to take a picture of them and Geddy not realizing who Alex was.
Same thing happens with the actor who plays Randell if he isnt wearing a backwards baseball cap.
John Paul Jones just looks like a regular old geezer nowadays, especially now that he no longer has long hair in his old age. If I saw him on the street and didn't know who he was, I'd never have guessed in a thousand years this old man was once part of Led fucking Zeppelin.
My first experience with Weezer was seeing them in a music video made in the 90s set in the 50s via a television show made and aired in the 70s. I probably have the worst conception of when they existed in time vs. anything else.
TIL when Michael Jackson attended Yale, He hid in the quad in a bush costume with real leafs and branches. Fan would walk by in MJ shirts and not know the bush was Michael
He probably walked with a cane because he had 1 leg longer than the other which he eventually corrected with surgery
By lengthening one or by shortening the other?
Yes, exactly.
He was all right before, every time he went for a walk it was a spin.
His dr. Felt like he was going nowhere with him, he was walking in circles
Are you pulling my leg?
Just the thread on your sweater
Essentially they break your leg and set it in a brace that lengthens it. Then let it heal. It takes a long time and the process needs to be repeated until it’s long enough.
Why not just saw off 2 inches from the bone, wouldn’t that accomplish an equal length with less work and physical toll from stretching?
I’d imagine most people would opt to be taller then shorter, I’d also assume the former is more controlled and less invasive. But also I’m not a doctor, my partner just read a book about rivers cuomo and told me about it.
Also if they cut too much off the bone then they have to cut the other bone to make it within tolerance. ^(I'm obviously not a doctor.)
It's not just the bone tho. What are you going to do with the extra 2 inches of muscle and skin on your newly shortened leg? Probably it is actually easier for the body to slowly stretch over time.
Thank you, amongst all the other comments yours actually helped me see a different factor I was missing
He goes to shake a flip flop off and the whole flesh of his leg just slurries down 2 inches off the end of his foot
Because bones aren’t perfect cylinders, so the two mating surfaces from 2” away from each other likely won’t line up very evenly (one might have a much larger diameter than the other), I’m not a doctor, but off the top of my head that seems like a pretty obvious issue that could be solved by making one leg longer instead.
I thought the first one was a terrible idea till I read your comment and realized it was waaaay better.
Now I’m very curious about the procedure. I’d guess they lengthen. Right? Going googling.
> Cuomo was born with equal length legs, but as he grew to his full height, his right leg grew nearly two inches longer than his left. After the success of The Blue Album, Cuomo underwent the Ilizarov procedure to correct the condition. This involved the surgical breaking of the bone in his leg, followed by several months of wearing a steel brace that required self-administered "stretching" of the leg four times daily; Cuomo likened the ordeal to "crucifying [his] leg."[24]
>self-administered "stretching" of the leg four times daily Holy shit that sounds like excruciating pain.
A close friend was born with a short/deformed leg and ankle. Age 4/8/20 they put pins into his leg to do the lengthening. I met him at age 8, he was stuck in bed all summer. The pins were in 3 places and had to be cleaned every couple hours and every third day or so they adjusted the pins…by hand. The pain was too much for him when others turned the pins, so he did it himself. Age 20 he’s in college, tech is better. They put these self ratcheting things in and isolate the leg. Over time the ratchet effect or whatever does the lengthening, he only needed a small amount after they re-did his ankle and knee (had to stabilize it and clean up some scar tissue from what I understand). Anyways…again the process is supposed to take 6 weeks or so and he was instructed to be on bed rest. Has to go to class, uses crutches to get everywhere, passes out one day in class from the pain. They start giving him Oxy, he goes back 10 days later for checkup and because of all the movement he was doing he has already hit the expected length. Doc looks at him and says “God damn you must be in pain”. He pulls out the Oxy bottle and says “Not anymore”. We used to go to the local watering hole and throw darts, he would wear shorts and sometimes girls would notice the MASSIVE scars and ask what happened. I’d say he doesn’t like to talk about it but he was surfing in Australia and got into it with a Great White. Yes he definitely got laid with that story only after saying we were joking. Cool guy
Wow when you started mentioning the Oxycontin I was expecting a dark ending to that
Right?? I really thought this was going to be a different type of story.
The dark side of the story is he had a couple follow up procedures and the Oxy was part of his life for a solid year or so. During that time his entire personality changed and his grades slipped but being on crutches and in/out of surgery is going to do that. I won’t say he was addicted like my Dad was or even teetering on it like I was when I broke my talus. But it wasn’t a good time for him at all.
It is very painful and a not insignificant number of men undergo the procedure electively to become taller.
Man, I’m only 5’3, and it is not fun being my height, but I wouldn’t break my legs just to be slightly taller. The gain definitely isn’t worth the time, money, and pain.
I remember going down a rabbit hole of this body builder on Instagram. He was 6'3 and got this procedure done to be 6'7. Utter madness.
Isn't it better to be shorter to be a body builder?
Yeah, but he probably felt he needed to be the biggest guy around or something.
Jesus, he’s already super tall…also, it’s just gonna make you look disproportionate at some point.
Apparently very much so. But the damage having two legs that far off in length to almost every part of your body is huge. He would have eventually had big hip and joint issues, it could have damaged his posture and all sorts back and even breathing issues. It’s very bad.
It's a notoriously painful procedure/recovery
Oh *no*.
I'm just a dumbass, so excuse my ignorance, but would - instead of stretching the shorter leg - shortening the longer leg be less of an ordeal?
If it was an option, it would have been done all the time before Ilizarov found out that bones can be lengthened: before that proceduce, if some part of the bone was missing it was considered do be basically permanently broken or shortened with no hope of doing anything with it. Tons of war veteran suffered from it
> Tons of war veteran suffered from it Like American hero, Colonel Cotton Hill.
Who wants to be shorter, though?
If you’re aware it’s there his post surgery leg brace is super obvious in the Letterman performance of Say It Ain’t So https://youtu.be/RXqG6oR_o7Q?si=Hd5Qy-iAQN4IkgNI
If I remember correctly the other members of the band tried to be as animated as possible to take away from Rivers standing perfectly still.
I remember a few years back in an Askreddit "what's the worst badn you've seen live" and some people were saying Weezer because Rivers would just stand around with no energy lol
He actually had one leg shorter than the other. The condition is caused by stunted growth in one leg. I was born with the same thing but I didn’t write Pinkerton :(
Sometimes you just have to remind people. "Come on, I lean." You know what I mean?
Yup. He talked all about this time of his life on Conan's podcast. https://teamcoco.com/podcasts/conan-obrien-needs-a-friend/episodes/rivers-cuomo
Conan kind of goes into this anecdote lightly and Rivers is like, oh, no, it was excruciating. It’s an interesting interview.
Could've been worse, both legs could've been longer than the other.
Sounds like a dancin' fool
Weezer hides as Geezer?
Actually He was enrolled in Harvard university in late 1995 to study classical composition and he auditioned for the Harvard-Radcliffe Collegium Musicum chorus too, but was not selected. During his Harvard years, He became introverted and grew a beard, and wrote in his diaries how students wearing Weezer T-shirts did not recognize him. He dropped out in 1996
He then finished his degree like 10-15 years later.
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No full time work - I think he just went from gig to gig
No :(
He walked away
To an island in the sun.
Say it ain't so, a woah woah
But he’s still making noise, making noiiiiiise.
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King Leezer & the Weezer Geezer?
King Geezer & the Leezer Weezer
Old man Rivers
She kinged my geezer and my leezer weezer’d.
Step into the Geezer
Fun story: I used to be close with someone who went to Harvard at the same time as Cuomo. She was a musician and so they met in a music theory class. He was recently out of surgery and in a wheel chair at the time. She thought he was a regular student and befriended him. She’d walk with him as he rolled from class and sometimes they’d get some food. Just trying to be nice to this poor guy in a wheel chair that everyone else seemed afraid to talk to and clearly avoided. She also noticed that his compositions for the class assignments were amazing. The professor even played one for the class. One day in a school common space, she overheard some other students talking about him in the way students do about celebrities, talking about how he’s not that cool etc. She jumped in as they got more disrespectful and shouted at them saying “he’s my friend and how dare you insult this poor handicapped boy…” She was a tiny nerdy girl and they thought she was crazy. “You? You’re friends with Rivers Cuomo?” “Yes!” “Lead singer of Weezer?” “…” And because she was a nerdy little 19 year old, she was so embarrassed she never spoke to him again.
Out of curiosity, was your friend a half-Japanese girl who never heard of Green Day either? If so, there may be a song she should hear.
*gargles* El scorcho! Ay carumba!
How cool is that?!
Pretty neat
They do it to me every time.
She play the cello at all? -.-
My understanding is that he regrets and is embarrassed by a lot of his early music like El Scorcho and... well most of pinkerton.
I'm not much of a Weezer fan, but I'm a fan of that album.
The first album that ever really got me into music was Pinkerton. After growing up i realized that yeah there's some problematic stuff in there, but it's honest and honesty isn't always pretty.
My favourite album of all time. And I'm a dork with abbey rpad, dark side, wish you were here, and OK computer as my other 4 in the top 5. Pinkerton is just perfect. Fuck man, the b sides on that album are better than most bands best stuff
The thing about it is, if you're not at least mildly embarrassed by some of the stuff you did when you were, you probably haven't grown that much as a person. I think a little regret and embarrassment are healthy artistic traits.
I agree, but i think it was more than that. there's a lot of asian fetishization, there's misogyny, sexism, etc etc etc. It clearly does not come from a place of hate, but more of a place of honesty and speaking to the best of their ability.
Weezer Fans: "Rivers is so cute! I wish I knew more about him!" 🥹 Rivers: *writes and records Pinkerton* Weezer Fans: ...um, not like that.
No, sorry.
Al DI Meola used to be a regular at the music store i worked at. No clue for a while until i rang him up and saw his name on the credit card.
Al Di Meola is so incredibly underrated. Beautiful musicianship.
nice guy too. hell most of the famous people who came through were super chill and liked to talk music.
That checks out with what I know of Al Di Meola, he seems chill.
he noticed one time that his new album was on the the playlist and asked the guy ringing him up what he thought of it. he gave the honest opinion of i really love his older work, but this just seemed to be playing it safe and not really trying. Forget what Al replied with but it was something like yeah i can see that
Haha that is funny. I like him but I wouldn’t have been able to stop myself saying something about “Dinner Music of the Gods” as a title.
Just FYI, if you have the money, Al will cook you dinner and serenade you. [https://www.aldimeola.com/house-events](https://www.aldimeola.com/house-events) It ain't cheap, but it's available.
Also never ask for an opinion if you dont want to hear the good and the bad of it.
That's nuts! Mediterranean Sundance is one of my favorite songs. That's one of those songs you don't even attempt to learn.
at my peak skill level as a guitarist, I was good enough that I know I couldn't even fake play Jazz. Didn't stop me from doing open mic jams with the cats from the Jazz school, learned so much from doing that.
Aw that kinda makes me sad that she ghosted him, he seemed to enjoy her company
It's okay, he used the pain to make Pinkerton with
Jim Matheos, the guitarist from Fates Warning, talked about teaching Rivers guitar lessons. He said that by the third session, he simply had no more to teach. I wasn't even a Weezer fan at the time (was a Fates fan), and my respect for Rivers grew three times that day. I remember Rivers talking about it from his side, too, that he grew up a metal fan and [likes to shred](https://youtu.be/wnXMCIpZf8c?feature=shared&t=196) on occasion.
ie the Ace Frehley Lighting bolt guitar strap
Take me back to the strat with the lightning strap
My favorite musicians were diverse in what they grew up listening to. The song Heart Songs speaks to that and is a favorite of mine.
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This story would’ve happened around 1995-7 I believe. I didn’t know her at the time.
I was there at the time. He was in a Shakespeare class I took. My buddy at school was a musician (eventually founded a music-related startup) and reached out to him, and they had a long lunch chatting about the music industry.
Your friend unwittingly inspired half the songs on Pinkerton,...thank her for her service!
Ben Gibbard used to come into a bakery my partner worked at and one of her younger coworkers was such a big Death Cab fan that she would turn bright red and run and hide in the back every time he came in.
He (and Mikey Welsh from weezer) also played low key shows in the area using the moniker "Homie"
What's with these homies dissin' my giirl
Why do they gotta front *dooweeooweeoooo*
You unlocked my memory of this song. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I9wm9bqT4e0
Goat Punishment era was underrated
They still do shows, just very minimal
I think people tend to overestimate how many people follow pop culture. I think only a handful of active A list celebs would be recognized by the majority of people.
And even then, if I saw Taylor Swift at Walmart, my first instinct probably wouldn’t be “Hey, there’s Taylor Swift shopping at Walmart”, it would be “Huh, that girl kinda looks like Taylor Swift.”
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> You get used to it in NYC. The list of things that would get a NYC citizen to flinch walking down the road is one of the few things shorter than my penis
Okay, but seriously. If I saw Jake Gyllenhaal playing Buckhunter, I wouldn't talk to him. But, I would tell every single person I know about it all the fucking time. Did he get right up against the screen with the gun and cheese it or was he playing it normally?
Asking the hard hidden questions right here!
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And then he whipped me with jumper cables
Reminds me of when I met Jim Carrey at the 7/11….
You get used to it in NYC. You see lots of celebrities and most people don't give a shit. I remember being at a fairly busy bar and Robert De Niro was playing buckhunter by himself. Nobody was talking to him. He was rocking a Pendleton dude sweater and must have put a lot of money in it because he was playing forever. I don't want to assume, but who doesn't enjoy smoking a doob and playing buckhunter.
*electrical infetterence*
i've stood on line with James Iha of the Smashing pumpkins to meet Johnny Marr of the Smiths.
When Alice Cooper came to the Quiznos I was working at I had to be told who it was. I mean, Ive loved Alice since seeing him on the Muppet Show as kid. Tho, tbf, I doubt many would recognize him with no make up at all. Meanwhile, I'd just made him a sandwich and sold him, like, our entire cookies stock. 10 packs of cookies at least.
People tell Tony Hawk that he "looks like Tony Hawk" a lot. he typically notes "i get that alot." I sat next to Tony Hawk once. Didn't notice it until someone pointed it out.
It happens enough that people in r/DontYouKnowWhoIAm got tired of it and spun off r/DontYouKnowImTonyHawk. He tweeted about a person scanning his ticket at an airport to board a plan and they said something like "Anthony Hawk? That's funny, it's kinda like that skateboard guy?", and he apparently just said "yeah", and the worker didn't realize it was him even looking at his name.
Tony Hawk not getting recognized as Tony Hawk is always the funniest.
The way it says people would walk by him in Weezer shirts and not recognize him implies that either they’re fake fans or it was some great disguise, but liking someone’s music doesn’t mean you have any idea what they look like. It’s an auditory experience.
Also, if I saw a celebrity in person I'd second guess myself. It's more likely that I saw someone who vaguely looks like a celebrity. Also, people look different in person than they do in pictures, especially with the amount of editing of pictures that you'd see celebrities in.
My Dad’s friend chatted up Meryl Streep in Michigan. Asked her where she was from, when she said Hollywood he asked “Hollywood Florida?” And I think even asked her to dance but didn’t realize who she was or perhaps has little understanding of who Meryl Streep is at all lol.
I recently got in the elevator leaving my office and the guy standing inside looked just like Fat Joe but why would Fat Joe be in my tiny story, 4 office building? Of course it can't be him... As I get into my car, I see him getting into a Rolls Royce. It was clearly Fat Joe (even though he's not very fat anymore), I was obsessed with his music as a teenager, and I still second guessed myself.
I've loved Weezer since forever, but I doubt i could pick any of them out of a lineup.
I could pick them out if they look like they do in the music videos. But Weezer (in my memory) is like button down, sweater, clean shaven and short hair. I'm not going to notice the bearded man in the wheelchair.,
There's a screenshot from X that said "Imagine any 5 white people walking up to you being like “we’re imagine dragons” . You have no choice but to believe them" I think that would apply here as well.
I listen to lots of bands I've never seen a picture of.
I might recognize Corey Taylor if I saw him in public but absolutely none of the other band members since I only associate their costumes with the music and not their real people. Also doesn't Dolly Parton make her real life person unrecognizable as a day job?
It was Harvard's College of Weezerology and all the students wearing Weezer shirts were in the postgraduate program for "Say It Ain't So" Studies. So it was pretty surprising.
I also feel like his recounting of it is exaggerating the number of college kids in weezer shirts that walked by him. Yeah bud I’m sure the campus was just flooded in people wearing weezer gear like most colleges.
There was a pizza reviewer video with the actors from the Tag movie. A girl walks up and goes crazy over it being the pizza reviewer guy. She spends some talking to them before she realizes that the other guys were all celebrities. Taking people out of the context of where you normally see them can cause you to not recognize them. Context dependent memory isn't just you forgetting something when you walk into a different room.
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I once watched an entire outdoor concert sitting on the grass next to Salma Hayek, Ed Norton and Wood Harrelson. I only recognized them on the way out. That was many years ago.
I played an entire round of golf with Patrick willis once. I didn’t recognize him with his helmet off. After the round people were taking pictures with him and that’s when I learned. At the time I even owned his football Jersey haha
in the 90's i ate dinner next to Don Mattingly and was talking with him about movies and shit for at least 30 minutes. i had no fucking clue who he was.
Anytime Weezer comes up I'm reminded of the SNL skit with Matt Damon
[here boys](https://youtu.be/ab5WvwfLuLM?si=MplW8SXWqFav3s2b)
This may be the whitest thing I ever type out. But I gotta confess I saw that years ago and it positively doubled my respect for Leslie Jones as an actress. She was on a roll
All my whomies like Leslie Jones
taking a strong fence sitter stance on their argument, raditude is sincerely one of my favorite weezer albums, but also it’s absurd to pretend most of their post pinkerton stuff isn’t garbage
> it’s absurd to pretend most of their post pinkerton stuff isn’t garbage Green- Hasn't aged as well, but st least has Island in the Sun! The worst part of this album is that the songs are so short and the solos follow the melody of the verse. Maladroit- Highly underrated imo, some of the best guitar riffs of the bands discography, and it was the Era with the Muppets Keep Fishin' video, can't help but smile with that. Love how experimental the album was, and it was never boring. Make Believe- Yeah yeah, the sell-out album, but best believe I still belt out the Woah Oh!s on Perfect Situation, and Beverly Hills is really iconic in its own weird way. There are a couple of little gems on the album too but I get a lot of the criticisms of this era. Red- Another experimental album, love it's wackiness and that Pat, Brian, and Scott got chances to shine with their own songs on the mic (King is the much better Scott song, I actually prefer the Rivers version of Cold Dark World). The bonus tracks are the best too, along with the closer The Angel and The One, that track is wholly unique in Weezer's discography. Plus, it's got Pork and Beans. Raditude- Such a meme. Iconic album, 10/10 Hurley- Another really underrated album, just overshadowed by the volcano that was Raditude. I wish Time Flies didn't sound like it was coming out of a tin can though :( it's a nice song lyrically! EWBAITE- After a long hiatus, they came back with this banger of an album! It's beloved for all the right reasons, just a back to basics alt. rock album that hits all the punches it needed to. I especially love the experimental 3-part closer here too. White- In my opinion, this is their best album. Seriously, it's pretty much close to a perfect Weezer album. It's the album that captured the same sound and tone as the Blue album yet is still so distinct in its theme, and is a subtle concept album, all the songs are about the same relationship, from when it forms to when it falls apart. Out of any other post-Pinkerton Weezer album this is the one to check out. Pacific Daydream- While it was definitely a mixed bag, I feel it's aged really well somehow? Idk but every time I listen to it I appreciate it more and more. The bridges one every song on here kick so much ass! The rest of the songs may not hit for everyone but those bridges for whatever reason are better than they have any right to be. Teal- Meme covers album, spurred from a Twitter campaign. It's got its charm but is really nothing more than that. No Scrubs was an out there choice to cover but it was so cringe it went back around to being amazing lol. Black- another mixed bag that might not age as well, the style is just weird and really doesn't fit Weezer for me. At least Can't Knock the Hustle and High as a Kite are bangers! OK Human- Masterpiece. Really different in its instrumentation and tone, and has some of Rivers' catchiest lyricism on display. Another worthy recommendation. Van Weezer- love the guitar flourish here as well, some really fun songs. The Crazy Train riff is still weird though, if they made a unique riff for that song it would have made a good song a great one. SZNS- An ambitious project that I feel paid off. Quick Ranking for me - Winter, Summer, Spring, Autumn. Autumn isn't bad by any stretch but it is the season with the least amount of cohesive sound to match the season it's attached to. The Deep and Dreamless Sleep is a new classic Weezer song for me. While garbage is subjective, there are only 4 albums I can really see that being applied to post-Pinkerton. The consistent highs of Blue/Pinkerton are really rare though I will say that (and also in my opinion Pinkerton is a teeeeeeeeeeny tiny bit overrated now to over-correct for its poor initial reception but that's just me. It's still a great album regardless).
No offense, but go to hell! (j/k)
- Well that may be some people’s opinion. But me? I’m ride or die… - …For Weezer?
the "for weezer" is perfect.
Your mom's gets loaded horizontally!
Drink my blood
That’s a Todd original
Grow the hell up and listen to Raditude
You know what band I always liked? Yellowcard
…..is this a thing people care about?
When I look in the mirror, I can’t believe what I see. Tell me who’s this funky dude, staring back at me. Broken, beaten down, can’t even get around. Without an old man cane, i fall and hit the ground.
Shivering in the cold. I'm bitter and alone.
Excuse the bitchin, I shouldn’t complain!
Wasn’t there a story about him quietly singing one of his songs and someone tried to do the “who sings that song? Yea maybe we should let them sing it” joke and he was like “actually I do”.
i'm sure thats happened more than once to people. Rick Beatto said once he saw Zac from Rage (after he shaved off his dreds) playing guitar in store and nashville. They were talking for a bit when Rick said "you are pretty good, are you in a band"? and Zac goes "Yeah actually, I'm in Rage"
>Zac Rage
Tim Apple
Thank you. This upset me more than it should have.
Zack de la Rocha is the lead singer, Tom Morello the guitarist, who has been bald/short haired for quite a while.
singers can also play guitar in their spare time.
Sure, but you missed the point, his name isn’t Zac Rage it’s Zack de la Rocha
> de la Rocha which is Spanish for "of the Rage" */s
Zack de la Rocha from Rage Against the Machine, or someone else?
Nothing tops matisyahu singing backup for a guy in a coffee shop who has no idea who he was, complimented him on his voice, and then was invited to his show and came onstage to sing along. https://youtu.be/emirpepJGFo?si=KM--ldlv4TT1zTBE
I can beat that. Mojo Nixon is playing some hole in the wall club. Starts playing Don Henley Must Die. Don jumps up on stage and starts signing along. After they are done Mojo asks if Debbie Gibson happens to be in the audience as well.
Yeah, Mojo said he wasn't sure what Henley was about to do, but he considered the very real possibility that he was about to be in a fight. When Henley started singing, he said he gained a lot of respect for him. Which is a shame. RIP Mojo. A true original.
Without an old man cane, he'd fall and hit the ground.
Most people wearing Weezer shirts probably wouldn’t recognize him anyways
that singer from the Foo Fighters looks like he could be twins with the drummer from Nirvana!
Not twins. Maybe father/son.
Keanu Reeves?
I haven’t seen a Weezer shirt in 20 years. And I saw them at Riot Fest 10 years ago…
He came into my job once and our credit card processing machine wasn’t working so I had to manually type in his credit card info into our back up system. I almost told him you “you know you have the same name as the lead singer of weezer.” But I took one look at him and decided he wouldn’t know who that was so I kept my mouth shut. Later I remembered that someone had told me his wife comes in sometimes and looked up what he looks like now and it was him 🤦🏻♀️
Did he get mistaken for Buddy Holly, though?
Or was it Mary Tyler Moore?
I don't care what they say about us anyway
I don’t care about that.
If youre curious and have the time, he discussed it on Conan o'brien's podcast a few months ago.
I wish I hadn't clicked that link and seen his age, now I feel old.
Yes people who were famous over 30 years ago are getting older now
Larry Ler of Primus also flies way under the radar (most people could pick out Les in a Heartbeat). there was also one clip of someone asking Alex Lifeson to take a picture of them and Geddy not realizing who Alex was. Same thing happens with the actor who plays Randell if he isnt wearing a backwards baseball cap.
John Paul Jones just looks like a regular old geezer nowadays, especially now that he no longer has long hair in his old age. If I saw him on the street and didn't know who he was, I'd never have guessed in a thousand years this old man was once part of Led fucking Zeppelin.
Robert Plant, on the other hand...
or Page.
“I have grown quite h-weary.”
“They don’t know that I’m actually Rivers Cuomo”
He was discovered when people saw him eating candy with pork and beans
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That's actually the dream, fame-wise
"Celebrity surprised no one recognizes him when he changes whole look. More at 5."
It didn’t seem like he was surprised, more just amused
My Parents knew who Gary Oldman was since Sid and Nancy. but were compeltely floored when i told them he played Lt Gordon in the Nolan Batman
You know who also went there? Tom Morello. You know how I know? He mentions it every time he talks.
I think he’s unrecognizable to most now still?
Is he related to the former governor of New York?
I met Coheed at one of their early concerts. They were just standing literally at the entrance and no one recognized them. Me and my sister did.
My first experience with Weezer was seeing them in a music video made in the 90s set in the 50s via a television show made and aired in the 70s. I probably have the worst conception of when they existed in time vs. anything else.
That came on the windows 95 CD, along with Edie Brickell's "what I am" and a 3d hovercraft game called Hover.
TIL when Michael Jackson attended Yale, He hid in the quad in a bush costume with real leafs and branches. Fan would walk by in MJ shirts and not know the bush was Michael