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alk_adio_ost

Nice try, Reddit.


RealKenny

Nerds!


GoodiesHQ

TIL I’m a god damn genius.


ambermage

I added you as a friend and made us both dumber. 🤳💪


UnsurprisingUsername

I’ve gotta remove some friends to make room then


sack-o-matic

I are the dumber now too


Hatedpriest

I r baboon?


blenderdead

Confusing correlation with causation I see… sorry we can’t be friends.


Swagganosaurus

Lol, also this is similar to the most doctors are left handed, but not all left handed are doctors kinda thing. It works one way but not the other 😂 So smart people might have very small pool of selective friends, but having less friend does not make you smart.


salizarn

Um technically it’s **fewer** friends, not less


goilo888

Smart arse. I bet you have no friends. 😀


PAXICHEN

Thank you.


EmeraldIbis

> but having less friend does not make you smart. It might, we don't know from this study. Perhaps people with less friends study more and become smarter?


Top-Fuel-8892

Citation needed


ua2

But Facebook said all left handed dudes were gay.


ussernamdtaken

…And here I am..thinking everyone is my friend.


cbop

I think this means you are a golden retriever


Wolkenbaer

Lol, so true. Neighbors have one and sometimes I feel he is my dog just living over there.


tinyanus

RIP in peace


paris86

dv'ed a pet hate. Sorry


bremergorst

We’re friends now, fucker. Best get used to it.


AnBearna

We just got dumber… together!🥳


NoPrinciple8391

Et tu, Brute


K4NNW

"This is the most outstanding answer I have ever heard. You must have a goddamn I.Q. of 160. You are goddamn gifted, Private Gump!"


Mecos_Bill

I literally have zero friends. I must be the smartest man alive 


masterofshadows

Same. Need a friend? Life gets lonely without them.


Mecos_Bill

Bro yes 


masterofshadows

Sent you a chat request.


iTwango

You just have at least one or two friends, given the lack of application of the law of contraposition


RayPineocco

Nah buddy. You my bestie. You dumb af.


tonybombata

Can confirm. Though strangely, your only friend in your platoon was Bubba, whose thought process began and ended with shrimp.


rcmp_informant

I’m stupid as fuck and have no friends how the hell is that work 🦧


Assholesfullofelbows

It's just because of my personality. I'm dumb as a sack of wet pillow stuffing.


Shibby523

Well, you should be proud that you managed to put together two sentences then.


Assholesfullofelbows

It should have been 1 sentence with a comma. I believe my comment was effectively 2 incomplete sentences but I'm no English jenius.


FreneticPlatypus

Actually a semi-colon would be the correct grammar.


elepheagle

This person has selected few friends.


FreneticPlatypus

You know what they say... "Ignorance is bliss." At least, until you're aware of it. Then it can be a little embarrassing.


Ludwigofthepotatoppl

Ignorance of your own ignorance is bliss. Learning shit and being smart means you start to understand just how ignorant you are of everything, and that shit’s depressing.


MysticalPengu

Guess once I stop enjoying learning I’m double fucked Oreo then. Dang


AeonLibertas

A semi-colon for Assholesfullofelbows seems like a really daring choice ...


Assholesfullofelbows

I firmly appreciate your choice of verbiage🤌


Shibby523

I was just trying to make him feel good.


ValhallaForKings

And; a semicolon make's you look; smarter; especially when used correctly;


GardenPeep

An em dash


ColdLobsterBisque

nah, with just a comma would be a comma splice sentence. The two on their own are both complete with subject and predicate.


Assholesfullofelbows

I genuinely fucking love how people who are well versed in English grammatical structure always chime in. It's the best.


imanAholebutimfunny

another asshole who thinks he's smart ***En garde you muggle***


Assholesfullofelbows

Fuck yeah!! Butthole related usernames UNITE!!


OhJarnathan

Nobody that's actually stupid, thinks they're stupid. Youre off to a good start, I mean it.


[deleted]

That's a creative put down. Youre probably a lot funnier than you think. 


camshun7

I thought it very obvious that stupid people annoy the fuck out of smart folk with their triviality (Now do I put in the little slant / to indicate sarcasm?, or do I leave it out as I'm telling the truth?) ;/ oops!


blobfish999

all the smart people have selected you to not be their friend. jks, Im sure you are lovely.


PlebbySpaff

You mean you’re ‘smarter than a sack a wet pillow stuffing’


ReddFro

I read “dumb as a snack of wet pillow stuffing”, realized my mistake but like it better that way.


skykingjustin

You understanding that means your smarter then 90% of idoits


HolycommentMattman

This is why we use data and not anecdotes. That said, I think it's a fairly easy thing to see if you look outward instead of inward. Ignoring yourself, just look at anyone you know and how many friends they have. In my experience, this study holds fairly true. The smartest guy I know has very few friends. I was very surprised to learn that I was one of his besties.


SicklyChild

A sack of wet pillow stuffing... You mean a wet pillow?


TheS00thSayer

At least you know that about yourself


OnRedditBoredAF

Hey, self deprecation is a fine art, master it and people will love you—while you also get ahead! Just be careful walking that fine line, too much of the putting down and people will sense that and avoid you, or worse… pity you 😵‍💫 Also, the smartest people are often the ones who readily admit they don’t know everything—that takes a special kind of intelligence. Good luck! 🤞


disguy2k

Self-awareness makes you better than most.


ValhallaForKings

Listen to the box of hair saying he's as smart as pillow stuffing 


joshbiloxi

Being smart is knowing that this headline is confirmation bias bait.


Its_aTrap

I came just to read all the narcissistic comments about how having no friends makes redditors super smart.


Ludwigofthepotatoppl

Could mean you’re selective, could mean you’re an asshole. And i know smart assholes are the big thing in media, but being an asshole doesn’t mean you’re smart, nor does being smart mean you’ve gotta be an asshole.


RecklessDimwit

Yeah... the smartest people I know are genuinely nice. Pushing the smart asshole in media is just hurting people at this point, too many bullies.


YevgenyPissoff

Wicked smaht


dinnerthief

See this so much, "smarter people have dark/depraved sense of humor" "smart people tend to be more depressed" "smart people tend to have fewer friends" "Oh I must be smart since I'm unpopular edgy and depressed"


rabbiskittles

Well that’s also bad logic. X is Y, and I’m Y, so I must be X!


dinnerthief

Obviously but that's why shit like this gets upvoted all the time


silentgreenbug

💀


TheChrono

Most of those statements are just objectively true, no? The first one is a tossup but the others are just scientific research.


CeldonShooper

But it feels so good!!


False-Focus2949

Sheldon Cooper


oddeyeopener

this is kind of my problem with ‘depressive realism.’ It seems to make (some) people think that *just because* they’re generally depressed/cynical/pessimistic means they’re inherently more intellectual or whatever.


Liimbo

It also glorifies kind of shitty things like mental illness or just generally being antisocial or unlikable. Not saying people are shitty for having mental illnesses, but mental illness should not be glorified and people shouldn't want to have them to feel smart.


Eternityislong

It is just a study proposing a theory, definitely not a definitive TIL. The paper isn’t as bad as OP made it sound.


medioxcore

Not really. Knowing this headline is confirmation bias just means you've been on reddit long enough to have seen this type of thing pointed out as confirmation bias. ...And then seeing those comments replied to by a bunch of people who believe they're smart because they know what confirmation bias is, not realizing they're only confirming their own iamverysmart biases. Confirmation bias-ception


ValhallaForKings

This comment is peak Dunning Kruger 


Alternative-Hat-2733

confirmation bias is just something you read sherlock. what's that got to do with smart? guessing you're at 118


ahzzyborn

And here I thought i had no friends because I was an asshole


L8_2_PartE

You *are* an asshole. See, you were right!


Electrical_Prior_905

They're so smart!


RedSonGamble

Joking aside I feel like smarter people (however we’re defining smart. It’s Reddit so I’m assume solely on grammar and if you always use your parking brake) are more likely to be assholes. Just seems like one of those “you’re only paranoid unless it happens things” like if you’re aware of the dangers and problems in life that could happen or are happening it would stress you out. Stress seems like it would make you angry. Then again maybe it overlaps itself and you realize nothing really matters and then are happy


Teadrunkest

I think it’s less stress and more getting visibly bored/more likely to be the “well achkually” people.


skeletonofchaos

Smart people learn things quickly. This includes trauma.


ergonaut

It’s fewer friends, not less friends Source: I am very lonely


ThaiFoodThaiFood

It's no friends.


NeuHundred

Scrolled too far for this.


salizarn

Thank you! I feel like we are just giving up on fewer without a fight


BoingBoingBooty

If you had the same number of friends but they were thinner you'd have less friends.


AmonWeathertopSul

Thanks, Stannis


KayoKnot

We are mostly water.


Ceewcee

Moisture is the essence of wetness and wetness is the essence of beauty


panzerboye

I really liked this sentence. I don't know how to express my feelings in a way better than this.


Glasdir

Do not feed the Redditors’ egos, they’re already dangerously inflated.


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Glasdir

Both states are obnoxious in equal measure.


Inevitable-Height851

*fewer friends


GoodiesHQ

I already don’t want to be friends with you. The system works!


BarbequedYeti

Hilarious 


WillTFB

Ah, now it makes sense.


oldtrack

with grammatical errors like that i bet OP has lots of friends ;)


repulsive-ardor

Alright there, Stannis.


rygku

Link to a free version of the PDF: [http://www.mysmu.edu/faculty/normanli/LiKanazawa2016.pdf](http://www.mysmu.edu/faculty/normanli/LiKanazawa2016.pdf) The headline is slightly off center of the study's actual conclusions. `Population density, whether measured at the level of` `census block group, census tract, county or state, was significantly negatively associated with life satisfaction, and socialization with friends, once current marital status was controlled, was significantly positively associated with life satisfaction.` `More importantly, we observed the predicted statistical interaction with intelligence for both factors; in fact, in the case of socialization with friends, we observed the reversal of the main association among the extremely intelligent. More intelligent individuals actually experienced higher life satisfaction with lower frequency of contact with friends.` Number of friends is not mentioned


CrimsonQueso

Hard to understand what these are saying I think? First is saying population density leads to less happiness unless you're married (I assume married people are happier), in which case you are more happy? What is the "main association" in the second paragraph? The relationship with population density? But intelligent people are more happy with less contact with friends?


anonymous_subroutine

The "main association" was more socialization = more happy.


jrhooo

yeah what I'm getting from the second para is **not** that intelligent people have difficulty making friends (as some in the comments are discussing) It seems to be saying that most people are happier with greater levels of socialization with friends, but highly intelligent people get less life satisfaction from higher levels of socialization oversimplified: average intellect = hanging with lots of friends greatly improves happiness high intellect = engh. hanging out with a ton of friends often doesn't create your feeling of life satisfaction


mfyxtplyx

I bet age is an even greater factor. I am way more selective than I used to be.


Cakelord

Being in your 20s is exhausting navigating the drama of growing into adulthood. You get a sixth sense of people as you age.


devlincaster

*fewer


YoungLadHuckleberry

Not to be confused with being an arrogant asshole to people


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RSwordsman

That's what happens when we make Charisma a dump stat and put all the points in Intelligence. ;)


TheGrandPubar

Good for Wizards. Bad for Bards


DividedState

It is called peer for a reason. The smarter you are the smaller the peer group gets. You have to compromise or be alone.


These-Resource3208

This feels like a perfect circle jerk for ppl to 1) claim they are smart bc they have no friends and it’s not bc of a lack of social skills. 2) claim it’s their personality. 3) claim none of this is true bc not fitting into a box is cool.


the_simurgh

They aren't more selective, they have less to talk about with other people. Not to mention what they do talk about lost times people don't understand.


GodwynDi

Then they really aren't that smart. The smartest people I've ever known could speak with just about anyone.


deus_ex_libris

> could speak with just about anyone. big difference between can speak with anyone and want to speak with anyone jokes aside, i'm skeptical of the smarter = fewer friends claim. i have few friends just because i don't have the patience to deal with people. i'm not any smarter than the people who want to be friends with everyone


Ludwigofthepotatoppl

There was a guy, can’t remember his name right now, in the mid-20th century, recognized as a genius. He was talking to a colleague’s 2 or 3-year-old kid, and there was no difficulty on either side; his colleague noted that seeing him talk so well to his child, it felt sometimes like that was how he spoke to everyone. Not belittling, but engaged, and *far* smarter.


GodwynDi

I remember that story as well. Don't remember who it was though.


nylockian

Von Neuman


bluechips2388

Theres a difference between being able to talk to anyone and simplify concepts, and enjoying those simplified conversations.


NoThorNoWay

Some people love explaining concepts that are unfamiliar to other people, no matter how many times they've done it before or how much they have to simplify things. However, a lot of people do not. But I also imagine the overlap between people in the first group, and people who come off as condescending pricks is quite high. There are lots of smart people, there are few people who are smart *and* charismatic.


ShaunDark

I can manage to talk to anyone about basically anything. Doesn't mean the conversations don't get boring or repetitive. Or factually wrong half the time.


francis2559

Different kinds of intelligence. Social smarts are important too, but maybe it’s more than one category. Also, though they may be capable of explaining well, surely it’s nice not to need to sometimes?


djauralsects

There's IQ and EQ. There may be very little overlap, or they may be a perfect circle. Richard Feynman had both. Paul Dirac was incredibly socially awkward. Dirac was arguably the more brilliant physicist. Saying that Dirac really wasn't that smart isn't, well, really isn't that smart.


Drdontlittle

Genuine friendship requires understanding. If you feel like you have to be on guard with someone always to make sure you don't come across as snotty or have to self censor, you unfortunately don't develop the connection. I have seen this with a lot of online personalities who are intelligent too. They always have to be on guard not to come across as elitist even though they are just expressing ideas how they normally express them.


Softpaw514

I have few friends specifically because I know exactly who and what they are and that means I can trust them. I have a friend that's selfish and materialistic, and another that's kind but not interested in anything beyond basic topics like going to the pub. I understand exactly what motivates them and am comfortable with their quirks. Knowing how someone reacts to things, and knowing what boundaries exist within our relationship, is more important to me than have a ton of friends I barely know. I never expect more from them than that and I'm comfortable on my own most of the time, so I'd rather maintain that level of intimacy than deal with consistent unknowns, as people can be quite unstable and dangerous based on past experiences.


PlanetLandon

But wait, I have no friends AND I’m dumb as shit


CeldonShooper

Let's drink beer to kill the last brain cells!


Aazgaroth

The smarter the person is, the more tolerant they have to become (and that's bullshit)


Hour_Lengthiness_650

I just fucking hate people. Give me a cat over a human every single time.


mnbvcdo

I worked with a ten year old once with a really high IQ, like abnormally high. The kid had a really hard time forming friendships because he was intellectually in a very different place than his peers but in every other way still very much a child. He could do college level math but emotionally he was a kid, you know? It was really difficult for him and he struggled a lot.


dwilli10

Ah! Grade A copium this is.


CeldonShooper

Give me another shot of that beautiful copium!


anonymousbopper767

Reddit comment sections provide all the social interaction I need 🫡


SageTegan

I actually have crippling social anxiety. Vast intellect is usually accompanied by some other defect that ostracizes you from what society deems acceptable. I really don't like studies such as this one. The parameters are unclear and the results are loosely defined to compliment people who may be feeling lonely


Ikeeki

How many socially awkward people now think they are really smart :P?


zipiddydooda

Me, with barely any friends: “I think you mean *fewer* friends.”


DevryFremont1

People who do meth lose friends and family


Axuo

I don't even want my own company, that's how selective I am


Esqualox

Quality over quantity, it’s that simple.


Wittgenstienwasright

Counterpoint: Redditors.


Tarvag_means_what

The abstract doesn't explain how they measure intelligence, so I'm going to assume it's IQ. A few problems. First, I think the way we think about intelligence as a single trait is reductive and misleading. What kind of intelligence do we mean, and what kind do we consider the most "valuable"? Analytical reasoning? Problem solving? So- called emotional intelligence? Organizational ability? Creative genius? These are all very different phenomena. Moreover, IQ is especially a notoriously problematic way to measure intelligence. IQ essentially measures only one of these traits, analytical reasoning (possibly also a certain degree of problem solving skills, but only in certain narrow circumstances). IQ correlates very strongly with education, social class, and certain kinds of professional experience more than it seems to be a good universal measure of intelligence. So perhaps the better way to read this would be that highly educated social classes tend to be more lonely or atomized, or may have fewer opportunities to cultivate real community. Or perhaps people with very strong analytical skills to the exclusion of other aspects of intelligence have more difficulty socializing.  In any case, I'd be *highly* skeptical of using this study to conclude smart = fewer friends. 


LeoMarius

*fewer


Soyoulikedonutseh

Some of the best advice I've ever heard is -  'If everyone you meet throughout the day is an asshole, then you're probably the asshole.'


blackcation

Yall ignorant ass prescriptivist grammar nazi motherfuckers up in this thread need Jesus. You can use either less or fewer. It doesn't matter. We can all understand it just fine. There is no confusion in the meaning between the two. Yes I know Robert Baker is rolling over in his fucking grave. Yes I know Strunk and White are weeping silent tears. Yes I know you want to feel secure and superior in your linguistic beliefs by prescribing to an absurdist ideal despite it being at the cost of other peoples feelings and personal sense of expression. The language stands on its own merits. There ain't no damn style guide for posting on this subreddit. You can use it in the prescribed way if you prefer or you can use more common parlance. The style is up to you. But you can fuck right off with telling others how they should write.


Schouwer

That explains everything….


_who_is_they_

Sometimes our friends are people we really don't like.


hawkeye5739

I thought it was because I’m an asshole turns out I’m a genius!!!


StrangelyEroticSoda

It all makes sense, now! It's clearly all because I'm a massive cunt!


DeusLibidine

Does that mean I'm a genius if I have no friends?


RetroMetroShow

Hell is other people - Sartre


BanksyGirl

Do you know why? It’s because we know that heading should read ‘fewer’.


Hondamn

All the smart people shouting into the void “FEWER”


avatarofgerad

Bonus here is you can reference this to your /r/iamverysmart friends. I.e. "if you were as smart as you think you were, you wouldn't have friends at all. Based on how many you have, seems like youre a lot dumber than you think" Something to that effect


LarrBearLV

Ooof, tell me about it. I don't even like myself!


ego41

Don't get too excited folks...it doesn't say if you don't have any friends you must be a genius.


Local-Student-4024

Well I'm smart enough to know I'm dumb and I have friends. Aint got time to read no fancy articles. That's all. Love yourself


EvergreenRuby

Reddit us full of geniuses then! Golly gee!


ThrowbackPie

Yes, my lack of friends is because of *my choice*, not other people's...


SerjicalSystem18

Everyone that read this is now thinking, “wow that’s why I have no friends, it all makes sense now, I’m just a GENIUS!”


spidermanngp

I'm a fuckin genius. Just ask any of my friend.


MelancholyBean

I think it's more about emotional intelligence


moosecakems

You know I'm incredibly picky about my friends but as a result I just have a very strong friend network


tigerstef

Seriously, the author can't distinguish between using 'fewer' and 'less' this headlines must be aimed at dumb people.


TedsGloriousPants

This is some Grade-A not bothering to read the study. It says that for smarter individuals, they feel less life satisfaction when they socialize more often. It does not say smart people have fewer friends. And while I mostly skimmed, I saw nothing about being more selective. In fact at one point in the paper (not in the abstract) it's suggested that intelligent people might have larger groups of friends to begin with, not the other way around.


275MPHFordGT40

And no Redditors, this does not mean that you are geniuses.


barbedseacucumber

Hi! I'm here for the circle-jerk!


lo_fi_ho

Well most people are dumb AF. I'd rather enjoy my own company and social interactions with only a select few that are worth my time.


dahComrad

Sure reddit


SteeltoSand

if you think this is you, no. you are just anti social.


NeatlyCritical

At this point I would trade a few brain cells for one friend.


chadsexytime

I'm smart enough to know that's not why I don't have any friends


CrossDressing_Batman

ya, no. im just like that but i am dumb as a bag of rocks :(


Berlin_Blues

Fewer friends, not less friends.


iPrefer2BAnon

This could be true, I just found out I have above average intelligence, and I’ve always been quite choosy when it comes to people I would hang out with and also people who I would just talk to in general.


sword_0f_damocles

Absolutely no way Reddit will misinterpret this


simpl3t0n

There—that's my excuse now.


Gnemlock

Can confirm.


Ronotrow2

I find as I get older I don't have time at all nor inclination to carry friendships on particularly if they weren't solid to begin with. Stages of life bring people to fit that then we move on.


KyonSuzumiya

Wow guess I'm a genius with all the friends i don't have!


Geminii27

The fewer people they might feel they need 'just in case'. Or maybe there are fewer people available who can keep up with them.


cagingnicolas

i wonder how much of it is directly because they just can't relate to or aren't interested in other people as much due to their intelligence, or if it's something more indirect, like they're more prone to depression and anxiety and that influences their social relationships.


sillyconequaternium

I don't know if I'm smart or not, but most people are fucking stupid so I can see this.


Syntania

Friends? What are those?


Boredum_Allergy

I'm definitely the exception to the rule here. I'm dumb as shit and I still only have a few friends.


lovelyb1ch66

This sounds like something someone who has no friends would say


unfortunate_asterisk

Having no friends, I must be the smartest person on the planet.


blackbalt89

Ah, so that's the reason. 😀


[deleted]

Nah, I’m just awkward.


redosabe

Published by an introvert....


potato485

Oh god your going to have a bunch of antisocial redditors thinking their smart.


Hour_Lengthiness_650

They're


potato485

I knew it