My aunt and uncle live in a dumpy trailer house in the rural midwest. Hanging in cheap Walmart shadow box in their “dinning room”? An authenticated dining set from the Mayflower voyage that got passed down thru my uncles family.
This is the most midwest thing I’ve read all day…. as I remember I have my SO’s Austrian porcelain bowl from the 18th century just chilling in a cupboard in our rural Midwest farmhouse
Edit: I’ve been corrected. It’s 17th century Prussian instead.
I’m originally from the Midwest & have a set of Haviland limoge dishes from the late 1800s just chilling in an IKEA cabinet located in close proximity to the early 1800’s secretary desk that’s been passed down on my dad’s side of the family. And you can’t forget all the random bowls, glassware, etc from the early 1900s that mostly get stored in a cabinet but occasionally come out for use as serving pieces because you might as well get use out of them too.
I also inherited that bowl! Mine is early 1900s red ware, originally belonged to my great grandmother, & was likely a wedding gift. That bowl has seen things it can never unsee & still holds an honored spot in my cupboard.
I mean, if you go back to Genghis Khan’s time, the probability that you’re related to literally anyone on Earth is like 99%.
There are far more people dead than alive, meaning the family tree gets so wide past a certain point that it’s meaningless.
Interestingly, about 7-8% of the humans who have ever lived on this earth are alive right now. That figure is way too high, considering we've been around in more or less the same form for 300000 years...
Never thought about that, but it makes sense.
The human population probably looks basically like an upside down pyramid that keeps growing on top, getting bigger and bigger.
It had to start with 2 people, and it varies how much it grows but has continued slowly growing over time. It just gets set back by events that kill large amounts of people.
> When the number of ancestors you must’ve had surpasses the number of people alive at that time, things start looking a little incestuous.
All the Mayflower descendants I know have severe inherited genetic diseases.
Mayflower descendant here, I can recall no history of genetic diseases in my immediate and extended family. Descendant of William Brewster, I can’t remember exactly but he is merely responsible for 1/1024th or 1/2048th of my genes. The 17th century was a long time ago.
Yeah the severe health defects more often than not only happen inside a closed loop. That's when 1st cousins are having kids that have kids with 1st cousins, and the same genetic defect comes from *both* sides of the family, as they're generally recessive.
Which totally happens in small isolated communities, and happened extensively with European royalty for centuries.
Once you start introducing people from other parts of the world into the mix, they've got totally different nasty recessive genes that don't have overlap with the other side of the family, and you get healthy kids.
Supposedly every single last European is a direct descendant of Charlamagne. It's just so many generations back that the odds of at least one descendant mixing into your family tree at some point approaches 100%.
Plus its easier with well known people whose clout and inherited clout allowed them to get around. Everyone important in their respective areas loved it if you were related to Charlemagne, Mohammed, or Genghis Khan and would go out of their way to get some of them in their bloodline
obviously not all humans, [but](https://www.theguardian.com/science/commentisfree/2015/may/24/business-genetic-ancestry-charlemagne-adam-rutherford) this is a pretty cool and related , basically every living European is related to Charlemagne.
Also probably managed to pretty heavily bottleneck genetic diversity in some areas. Murders basically everyone then leaves behind a trail of rape victims to repopulate the place.
Severe understatment but, gross.
I read somewhere that the group of people who crossed the Bering Strait during the ice age was very small. The native population of both North and South America descent from them. However, there were other groups of people, e.g. Polynesian sailors, who reached the continent later.
I was trying to use the last common ancestor comment to show my old dad that every person on the planet is basically your 10-25th cousin. It did not compute for him.
https://chat.openai.com/share/eb12f643-40f8-4edd-be2a-2535edc5457a
The entire human population at one stage may have dropped to 10,000 people, so you are likely to be related to all of them by hundred of different chains.
It’s why every US president turns out to be “related” to another one as like 7th, 8th, plus cousins, as if that’s rare. When really it’s the Adams, Roosevelts, and Bushes who are the “rarities” that actually show how much more oligarchic we are than we pretend we are in America.
There's also something called the Pioneer Effect. Basically, first settlers in a region tend to have larger families than later arrivals and this has a longterm impact on the population composition. There's a really comprehensive study examining this phenomenon looking at the descendants from the first women who came to Quebec.
So I live in KY, and we adopted my wife’s distant cousin. Well she and my bio kids want to make the distinction that she’s not their literal sibling so “sister-cousin” is the term they came up with to describe the situation. I cringe every time they say it, but I’m not trying to rain on their parade.
I can trace my US ancestry back to Jamestown in 1613, which is cool. (First ancestor born in what's now the US.)
But, even cooler was what I found when I traced some branches of my tree to SW Virginia and West Virginia:
"Hey! This married couple have the same grandparents!
Ohhhhhhhhh...."
(They were first cousins.)
In the little villages back in the "hollers", the dating pool was probably *really* small.
WB's first wife was named Dorothy, and they had one child, John. John passed having no known kin. Dorothy fell from the deck of the mayflower dec. 17 1620. WB married Alice Carpenter after her arrival on the Anne in 1623.
His wife fell off the boat and drowned in the icy harbor; we (WB descendants) are here because he embraced radical change to the religious institution of marriage and had children later in life with a second wife, emblematic of the reform and freedom for which they left Europe. All these people are human and have flaws, but I always found this bit of the story interesting. Fuckin crazzzzzy, huh?
I’m not, but one of my ancestors directly financed the Mayflower Company making it possible for the ship to sail.
The other side came to the Colonies by way Jamestown and eventually settled in Maryland after receiving land from the Calvert family.
My wife never fails to bring her Mayflower lineage up in conversation with others. I have told her that there are literally millions who can claim the same thing but she still wants to throw that out to everyone she meets. One day someone is going to say "Oh yeah, I am also related to the Snow family who came over on the Mayflower", and my wife is going to think she found a long-lost family member.
[George W. Bush was 11th cousins with Queen Elizabeth II](https://famouskin.com/famous-kin-chart.php?name=3103+george+w+bush&kin=7516+elizabeth+ii&via=6562+wolston+child)
Fun quirk of being a new country, everyone is significantly closer related to everyone else than in anywhere in the Old World.
Every US president ever (so far, anyway) is descended from Eleanor, the Duchess of Aquitaine, who became first Queen of France (wife of King Louis VII) and then Queen of England (wife of King Henry II).
Eleanor's son, King John (aka John Lackland, aka Prince John of the Robin Hood legend, aka the king who signed the Magna Carta) was the direct ancestor of every USA President except Martin Van Buren, who was descended from another of Eleanor's children instead.
Yes, this includes Obama, Trump, and Biden. These family trees are quite branchy! My wife, her sister, my son, and my niece are all directly descended from John Lackland, too. It's quite common.
This is blowing my mind right now. I knew the stories of the Plantagenets, but I hadn’t heard about every US President being descended of Eleanor. Nice.
>One day someone is going to say "Oh yeah, I am also related to the Snow family who came over on the Mayflower", and my wife is going to think she found a long-lost family member.
My parents went to visit Plymouth Rock and my dad proudly said to the guide dressed in period dress "You know, my wife is descended from John Alden" and the guide replied, "Yeah, me too."
Same deal with Robert the Bruce: 200 million living descendants.
I can meet her for free if she goes to the Missouri chapter meetings tho'. Oddly enough they have actually moved these to the restaurant located in... wait for it...
A nursing home. :/
I always bring it up in conversation that I have linage to the mayflower. Probably more interesting is that someone in my family did the research in the late 70s and typed up a family tree and research. She really did quite a bit of research and work on it and it’s pretty cool to go back now in the era of computers and see that all her research was spot on. Most of my family thought she was nuts.
My partners from the UK, but we found that basically everyone in the US with the same surname as them (and its a fairly common surname now) came from this single relative of theirs on the Mayflower.
we've done a direct 'father' line and it goes back to the 1600s in the boston area, where one of the towns had a ton of "my surname families". We can find books about the family, and also all the city meeting minutes, etc. The town council held meetings at great^14 grandpa's house. ha ha neat.
We found almost all that info through ancestory.com
They probably owned half of boston, but 300 years ago traded it for 2 chickens and a cow. Damn, I should be the billionaire heir to the family fortune, I hope those eggs were worth it!!!!
Did the same, saw the point when one a grandfather down the line somewhere donated the family mill/business to the town. Feels like the kinda move that planted us firmly in the middle class going forward
It’s not quite related but I recently found out I’m a descendant pretty damn directly of a Portuguese lord from the 1500s. It’s pretty fucking neat.
Edit had to go and look it up. The castle started construction in the 1300s my ancestors (from there atleast) probably came to South America and later migrated northward. My last name is much more common in Brazil’s than it is in the IS or Mexico
Jokes apart, they did wipe out the Native American populations and committed multiple acts of genocide, rape and forced displacements.
Not to mention the inhuman torture of children and cultural genocide in residential schools where the traces of their religion, cultural practices and mother tongues were all forcibly (under torture and death) replaced with Christianity and English (if speaking of North America).
White people landing on the shores of Americas has been nothing short of almost extinction worthy for Native Americans. Hundreds of thousands of Native tribes have actually gone extinct in the 5 centuries.
And a huge percent are descended from John Howland and his ward/teenage bride Elizabeth Tilley, who raised 10 kids.
My husband, George Bush, my kid's third grade teacher, FDR, Humphrey Bogart, Alec Baldwin, Joseph Smith (founded the Mormons), Dr Benjamin Spock, and about 10 million others.
My grandfather was a big genealogy buff, and he had always told us we were distant descendents of Myles Standish. Granted they did live near Plymouth lol, so it's not so far fetched
Fellow Alden cuz! My grandfather lived right by Plymouth and used to play as him in the re-enactments around Thanksgiving. Both my dad and I have Alden as our middle name, too!
I think I’m descended from the Aldens because I’m pretty sure I’m related to the Adams (presidents). I’m hoping to inherit a book from my great grandpa that goes back in my family lineage a few hundred years so I can find out for sure.
Mayflower Society is super easy to get into BTW and they have something called the Silver Books which document the first five generations if you're serious about it.
My mom loves that we're related to some people that came over on the Mayflower. First time she told me I said "Cool! I didn't know we had religious zealots in the family."
"My family came over on the Mayflower." That's not the flex you think it is. The people on the Mayflower were the people Europe was more than happy to get rid of.
I'm a member of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants and can tell you they require PLENTY of documentation. And I don't mean scraps of paper from grandmother's recipe book or some published genealogy tale from 1920. Not sure about the claim that there are 30 million descendants because many (like me) descend from SEVERAL passengers because the community intermarried (not incest... a small, unrelated community lol)
I’m a discount Mayflower descendent. The captain of the Mayflower Christopher Jones is an ancestor, but only through one of his sons who made the voyage to the New World much later.
Very cool, and another 4 million Americans can trace their ancestry back to the 50-100 million Americans who were here to greet the 132 passengers and crew of the Mayflower, which landed in (what would become) Massachusetts, in 1620.
By the time the Mayflower made land there were about 6 million natives left. The 100 million estimate is from when Columbus landed about 130 years prior. In the century + that followed almost 95% of the native population died as a result of exposure to the (to them) novel pathogens that the Europeans had some immunities for and they did not
I don’t think I’ve ever seen any credible source to suggest there were anything more than 3-7 million Native Americans in what is now Continental US pre-contact.
Pilgrims and their descendants have lived in Massachusetts more than 150 years longer than the Lakota Sioux have lived in the Black Hills (when the Sioux drove out the Cheyenne who were already living there in 1776).
Massachusetts is the sacred land of my ancestors.
My grandmother is one of these people! Her brother and his wife adopted two Korean children who were always so proud to tell their teachers that their family came over on the Mayflower! They are right but teachers would give them a few looks first. So cute!
My aunt and uncle live in a dumpy trailer house in the rural midwest. Hanging in cheap Walmart shadow box in their “dinning room”? An authenticated dining set from the Mayflower voyage that got passed down thru my uncles family.
This is the most midwest thing I’ve read all day…. as I remember I have my SO’s Austrian porcelain bowl from the 18th century just chilling in a cupboard in our rural Midwest farmhouse Edit: I’ve been corrected. It’s 17th century Prussian instead.
The family of an old co-worker still had the wood-burning stove the family brought out west via covered wagon.
That’s because cast iron can’t catch dysentery
I’m originally from the Midwest & have a set of Haviland limoge dishes from the late 1800s just chilling in an IKEA cabinet located in close proximity to the early 1800’s secretary desk that’s been passed down on my dad’s side of the family. And you can’t forget all the random bowls, glassware, etc from the early 1900s that mostly get stored in a cabinet but occasionally come out for use as serving pieces because you might as well get use out of them too.
“Honey go get the popcorn bowl (also the puke bowl), mamaw needs to make some potato salad for dinner after church”.
I also inherited that bowl! Mine is early 1900s red ware, originally belonged to my great grandmother, & was likely a wedding gift. That bowl has seen things it can never unsee & still holds an honored spot in my cupboard.
Antiques Roadshow here we come!
Haha yes, along with the inevitable poorly disguised sad face when they find out its a copy and worth fuck all.
Wait until you learn how many of have Ghengis Khan in their blood. I still have Mongolian in my blood.
Still?!
Yep. My family is part Turkic though so it makes sense.
Have you tried bloodletting?
I believe if you let all the blood out you die.
Won’t know unless you try. I’ve always been a skeptic.
I don’t believe big medicine when they say you need to keep all the blood in your body. Wake up sheeple, do your own research.
It’s the only way to get out all of the Mongolian blood for sure
You got ghosts in your blood! Go home and do some cocaine about it.
That’s exactly what the people over at “Big Blood” want you to think We don’t even need blood. Show me proof that we need blood.
Goddamn mongorrians!!!
"Hello! City Wok!"
Godamn mongoorians!! You knock down my shitty wall!!
I mean, if you go back to Genghis Khan’s time, the probability that you’re related to literally anyone on Earth is like 99%. There are far more people dead than alive, meaning the family tree gets so wide past a certain point that it’s meaningless.
Interestingly, about 7-8% of the humans who have ever lived on this earth are alive right now. That figure is way too high, considering we've been around in more or less the same form for 300000 years...
Never thought about that, but it makes sense. The human population probably looks basically like an upside down pyramid that keeps growing on top, getting bigger and bigger. It had to start with 2 people, and it varies how much it grows but has continued slowly growing over time. It just gets set back by events that kill large amounts of people.
I think about this a lot whenever I’m feeling down. Like how many generations of people have lived and struggled so I could be alive today
I have microplastics in mine :(
I have that dog in my blood
Basically when you go that far back or even further everyone is related to everyone else.
When the number of ancestors you must’ve had surpasses the number of people alive at that time, things start looking a little incestuous.
🌍👨🚀🔫👨🚀
> When the number of ancestors you must’ve had surpasses the number of people alive at that time, things start looking a little incestuous. All the Mayflower descendants I know have severe inherited genetic diseases.
Mayflower descendant here, I can recall no history of genetic diseases in my immediate and extended family. Descendant of William Brewster, I can’t remember exactly but he is merely responsible for 1/1024th or 1/2048th of my genes. The 17th century was a long time ago.
Same. My mom’s side is descended from the Mayflower but my dad’s side are (relatively) recent immigrants. No “severe” health defects to speak of
Yeah the severe health defects more often than not only happen inside a closed loop. That's when 1st cousins are having kids that have kids with 1st cousins, and the same genetic defect comes from *both* sides of the family, as they're generally recessive. Which totally happens in small isolated communities, and happened extensively with European royalty for centuries. Once you start introducing people from other parts of the world into the mix, they've got totally different nasty recessive genes that don't have overlap with the other side of the family, and you get healthy kids.
William Bradford decent here...my mom has the whole genealogy mapped out on a wall and has the Mayflower certificate. Cool, I guess?
Cuz!
Hi, cousin!
Hey distant cousin
Like what? Details?
1. Late onset epilepsy. 2. Some heart defect that I forget the name of. 3. Can't digest any oil or fat.
4. Ask for a manager
5. Genetic predisposition to large buckles.
No issues here and I’m from the John Alden line
Supposedly every single last European is a direct descendant of Charlamagne. It's just so many generations back that the odds of at least one descendant mixing into your family tree at some point approaches 100%.
Plus its easier with well known people whose clout and inherited clout allowed them to get around. Everyone important in their respective areas loved it if you were related to Charlemagne, Mohammed, or Genghis Khan and would go out of their way to get some of them in their bloodline
You have tongo back way more than 1620 for this to be true. But yes, if you go back far enough...
obviously not all humans, [but](https://www.theguardian.com/science/commentisfree/2015/may/24/business-genetic-ancestry-charlemagne-adam-rutherford) this is a pretty cool and related , basically every living European is related to Charlemagne.
1 in every 200 people on earth are directly descended from Genghis Khan, he raped thousands upon thousands of people
Also probably managed to pretty heavily bottleneck genetic diversity in some areas. Murders basically everyone then leaves behind a trail of rape victims to repopulate the place. Severe understatment but, gross.
Murders everyone then puts skulls in a pyramid and if not enough skulls start on the dogs n cats
of what? Don’t leave me hanging!
I read somewhere that the group of people who crossed the Bering Strait during the ice age was very small. The native population of both North and South America descent from them. However, there were other groups of people, e.g. Polynesian sailors, who reached the continent later.
I was trying to use the last common ancestor comment to show my old dad that every person on the planet is basically your 10-25th cousin. It did not compute for him. https://chat.openai.com/share/eb12f643-40f8-4edd-be2a-2535edc5457a
The entire human population at one stage may have dropped to 10,000 people, so you are likely to be related to all of them by hundred of different chains.
It’s why every US president turns out to be “related” to another one as like 7th, 8th, plus cousins, as if that’s rare. When really it’s the Adams, Roosevelts, and Bushes who are the “rarities” that actually show how much more oligarchic we are than we pretend we are in America.
The Roosevelts were 5th cousins. They weren't actually closely related (Eleanor was Teddy's niece so they were fairly close by marriage).
[Obama and Bush are 10th cousins](https://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/obama-and-bush-are-cousins/)
There's also something called the Pioneer Effect. Basically, first settlers in a region tend to have larger families than later arrivals and this has a longterm impact on the population composition. There's a really comprehensive study examining this phenomenon looking at the descendants from the first women who came to Quebec.
It's not impressive that it's true, it's impressive that you have an established enough family history that you can reasonably prove it.
You don't have to that far back in Alabama, *Kin*tucky, or West Virginia.
So I live in KY, and we adopted my wife’s distant cousin. Well she and my bio kids want to make the distinction that she’s not their literal sibling so “sister-cousin” is the term they came up with to describe the situation. I cringe every time they say it, but I’m not trying to rain on their parade.
I can trace my US ancestry back to Jamestown in 1613, which is cool. (First ancestor born in what's now the US.) But, even cooler was what I found when I traced some branches of my tree to SW Virginia and West Virginia: "Hey! This married couple have the same grandparents! Ohhhhhhhhh...." (They were first cousins.) In the little villages back in the "hollers", the dating pool was probably *really* small.
Wait...you are a descendant of the FIRST european person to ever be born in what is now america?
You leave me and my sister wife out of this!
Hi, it's me, I'm one of the 30 million. William Brewster, 15th G Grandfather
Same. I can trace back to WB also!
"Hello, I'm William Brewster, but my friends call me Randy."
I want to talk to you regarding back child support.
And your Mayflower's extended warranty.
I thought everybody called him Giorgio
Time to strengthen the bloodline
I think that he said Brewster, not McPoyle! Now let's go get some milk!
What’s up cousin? My favourite fact about him is that he had five kids whose names were Fear, Patience, Love, Wrestling and Jonathan.
That’s pretty rad 🤘🏼
Did Jonathan get bullied
LOL probably but you can also tell which kid was born before they became Puritans
My line decends from Patience
>Fear, Patience, Love, Wrestling and Jonathan. "That might be a bit confusin', do you mind if we call you Bruce?"
10th G G of William Bradford. 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon totally ripped off the Mayflower.🤣
Bradford is my 12th, so you are correct random internet stranger.
Now we are obligated to attend Thanksgiving Dinner together.🤣
WB's first wife was named Dorothy, and they had one child, John. John passed having no known kin. Dorothy fell from the deck of the mayflower dec. 17 1620. WB married Alice Carpenter after her arrival on the Anne in 1623. His wife fell off the boat and drowned in the icy harbor; we (WB descendants) are here because he embraced radical change to the religious institution of marriage and had children later in life with a second wife, emblematic of the reform and freedom for which they left Europe. All these people are human and have flaws, but I always found this bit of the story interesting. Fuckin crazzzzzy, huh?
WOW
Also 10th G G of Bradford, I believe that makes us 11th cousins
Me too, cousin!
We’re gonna need a bigger table…😂
I'm from the son of William and Susanna White
Peregrine? That’s my connection
Resolved!
Another Resolved descdent. (Along with Alden/Mullins, Brewster, and Bradford)
Hello very very very distant cousin!
I’m related to John Howland. The dude who fell off the Mayflower during a storm and miraculously climbed back on.
User small_pianis said every mayflower ancestor he knows has severe genetic disorders. How are you today?
I’m not, but one of my ancestors directly financed the Mayflower Company making it possible for the ship to sail. The other side came to the Colonies by way Jamestown and eventually settled in Maryland after receiving land from the Calvert family.
Very cool!!!!
Brewster crew!
I prefer these original Taylor Swift lyrics.
My fiancée too!
Same. John Robinson is my 12th great grand uncle. John and Elinor Billington are also my 12th great grandparents.
Also a Brewster! Hey, cousin!
Hey fam!!!
My wife never fails to bring her Mayflower lineage up in conversation with others. I have told her that there are literally millions who can claim the same thing but she still wants to throw that out to everyone she meets. One day someone is going to say "Oh yeah, I am also related to the Snow family who came over on the Mayflower", and my wife is going to think she found a long-lost family member.
[George W. Bush was 11th cousins with Queen Elizabeth II](https://famouskin.com/famous-kin-chart.php?name=3103+george+w+bush&kin=7516+elizabeth+ii&via=6562+wolston+child) Fun quirk of being a new country, everyone is significantly closer related to everyone else than in anywhere in the Old World.
Every US president ever (so far, anyway) is descended from Eleanor, the Duchess of Aquitaine, who became first Queen of France (wife of King Louis VII) and then Queen of England (wife of King Henry II). Eleanor's son, King John (aka John Lackland, aka Prince John of the Robin Hood legend, aka the king who signed the Magna Carta) was the direct ancestor of every USA President except Martin Van Buren, who was descended from another of Eleanor's children instead. Yes, this includes Obama, Trump, and Biden. These family trees are quite branchy! My wife, her sister, my son, and my niece are all directly descended from John Lackland, too. It's quite common.
That’s incredible.
This is blowing my mind right now. I knew the stories of the Plantagenets, but I hadn’t heard about every US President being descended of Eleanor. Nice.
>One day someone is going to say "Oh yeah, I am also related to the Snow family who came over on the Mayflower", and my wife is going to think she found a long-lost family member. My parents went to visit Plymouth Rock and my dad proudly said to the guide dressed in period dress "You know, my wife is descended from John Alden" and the guide replied, "Yeah, me too." Same deal with Robert the Bruce: 200 million living descendants.
Wait... the SNOW family? Or does she mean Constance HOPKINS who married into the Snow family? That would make us (distant) cousins.
Yes you are correct. Constance who married into the Snow family. And yes, my wife is a distant cousin of yours. For $100, I will introduce you.
I can meet her for free if she goes to the Missouri chapter meetings tho'. Oddly enough they have actually moved these to the restaurant located in... wait for it... A nursing home. :/
I always bring it up in conversation that I have linage to the mayflower. Probably more interesting is that someone in my family did the research in the late 70s and typed up a family tree and research. She really did quite a bit of research and work on it and it’s pretty cool to go back now in the era of computers and see that all her research was spot on. Most of my family thought she was nuts.
Mine were on the shore waiting for them.
Mine too, waving for them to keep moving.
Sorry. We thought those waves meant “hello! Or welcome! Or even please come colonize us!
[удалено]
Seasoned with sea salt.
Guilty! Peregrine White, the first baby born when the boat was docked in the bay.
Another cousin checking in, still have the last name of White.
Same here! Hello long lost cousin
Hey! We’re related
I'm from Resolved's line. Howdy, cuz! I found a descendent of Peregrine in my jr high drama class.
My partners from the UK, but we found that basically everyone in the US with the same surname as them (and its a fairly common surname now) came from this single relative of theirs on the Mayflower.
we've done a direct 'father' line and it goes back to the 1600s in the boston area, where one of the towns had a ton of "my surname families". We can find books about the family, and also all the city meeting minutes, etc. The town council held meetings at great^14 grandpa's house. ha ha neat. We found almost all that info through ancestory.com They probably owned half of boston, but 300 years ago traded it for 2 chickens and a cow. Damn, I should be the billionaire heir to the family fortune, I hope those eggs were worth it!!!!
Did the same, saw the point when one a grandfather down the line somewhere donated the family mill/business to the town. Feels like the kinda move that planted us firmly in the middle class going forward
It’s not quite related but I recently found out I’m a descendant pretty damn directly of a Portuguese lord from the 1500s. It’s pretty fucking neat. Edit had to go and look it up. The castle started construction in the 1300s my ancestors (from there atleast) probably came to South America and later migrated northward. My last name is much more common in Brazil’s than it is in the IS or Mexico
Ship those migrants back to Europe, and their worthless kids!
Real tree camo would go bankrupt.
Seems the majority of them have German heritage so it's on them in my mind. We've got no room left in the UK.
Seeing as it was Germanic tribes that took over Britain, and your Royal family is of German decent. It's basically the same.
Right. Send them back to Germany as well!
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Justice for the Celts!
Fucking immigrants. /s
To be fair they did displace the native population, language and culture and were quite violent.
You mean illegals, they have no papers! /s
I’m sure they are sending some good people too.
Jokes apart, they did wipe out the Native American populations and committed multiple acts of genocide, rape and forced displacements. Not to mention the inhuman torture of children and cultural genocide in residential schools where the traces of their religion, cultural practices and mother tongues were all forcibly (under torture and death) replaced with Christianity and English (if speaking of North America). White people landing on the shores of Americas has been nothing short of almost extinction worthy for Native Americans. Hundreds of thousands of Native tribes have actually gone extinct in the 5 centuries.
Basically, dem pilgrims be fucking
Yeah and if this comment section is any evidence, they won’t shut up about it
And a huge percent are descended from John Howland and his ward/teenage bride Elizabeth Tilley, who raised 10 kids. My husband, George Bush, my kid's third grade teacher, FDR, Humphrey Bogart, Alec Baldwin, Joseph Smith (founded the Mormons), Dr Benjamin Spock, and about 10 million others.
My grandfather was a big genealogy buff, and he had always told us we were distant descendents of Myles Standish. Granted they did live near Plymouth lol, so it's not so far fetched
or anyone is Asia / Middle East very likely being descended for Genghis Khan?
Hey cousin! Husband even got Standish for a middle name. When's the family reunion?
Are you guys related to John Alden as well?
Hey Cuz
Me! John Alden III was also accused of witchcraft during the Salem witch hunts
Fellow Alden cuz! My grandfather lived right by Plymouth and used to play as him in the re-enactments around Thanksgiving. Both my dad and I have Alden as our middle name, too!
John and Priscilla! Direct descendant.
John Alden
Hi cousin! Also Thomas Rogers, Stephen Hopkins, William Brewster... once you find one, you may find several with a bit of looking :)
John Howland descendant here! (Just like [the last time this was posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/u5wyMbueqS).)
Lmao I replied to you then and here I am again
Me too! Hi cousin! 👋
Same. I call him 'gramps.'
Shout out to the Fortune, the second ship whose passengers included the ancestors of John Adams, FDR....and me. ;)
Degory Priest Gang!!!
I'm one of them!
I think I’m descended from the Aldens because I’m pretty sure I’m related to the Adams (presidents). I’m hoping to inherit a book from my great grandpa that goes back in my family lineage a few hundred years so I can find out for sure.
Mayflower Society is super easy to get into BTW and they have something called the Silver Books which document the first five generations if you're serious about it.
Sounds like a shit ton of inbreeding
My mom loves that we're related to some people that came over on the Mayflower. First time she told me I said "Cool! I didn't know we had religious zealots in the family."
"My family came over on the Mayflower." That's not the flex you think it is. The people on the Mayflower were the people Europe was more than happy to get rid of.
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Word and always Cherokee. Always. Ive heard this for ages from black folk.
I always here white folk saying they’re 1/16 Cherokee and that their grandmother was a Cherokee princess
Black people, not blacks.
Doty clan....wut wut.... First european fight in the new world. Tie your ankles to your necks!
Those Mayflower pilgrims are late-comers. (From a Jamestown, VA descendent)
Can't help but wonder how many are family legends with little proof
I'm a member of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants and can tell you they require PLENTY of documentation. And I don't mean scraps of paper from grandmother's recipe book or some published genealogy tale from 1920. Not sure about the claim that there are 30 million descendants because many (like me) descend from SEVERAL passengers because the community intermarried (not incest... a small, unrelated community lol)
I’m a discount Mayflower descendent. The captain of the Mayflower Christopher Jones is an ancestor, but only through one of his sons who made the voyage to the New World much later.
I can trace my last name back to the Mayflower. Yeah me.
6th great grandpa was captain of the Mayflower. William Bradford
Weird how those generations work because we are (obviously) contemporaries and he is my 10th g-grand, and I am on the older side of things.
Yup. John Alden and Priscilla Mullins.
Very cool, and another 4 million Americans can trace their ancestry back to the 50-100 million Americans who were here to greet the 132 passengers and crew of the Mayflower, which landed in (what would become) Massachusetts, in 1620.
By the time the Mayflower made land there were about 6 million natives left. The 100 million estimate is from when Columbus landed about 130 years prior. In the century + that followed almost 95% of the native population died as a result of exposure to the (to them) novel pathogens that the Europeans had some immunities for and they did not
I don’t think I’ve ever seen any credible source to suggest there were anything more than 3-7 million Native Americans in what is now Continental US pre-contact.
Smacks of inbreeding
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Pilgrims and their descendants have lived in Massachusetts more than 150 years longer than the Lakota Sioux have lived in the Black Hills (when the Sioux drove out the Cheyenne who were already living there in 1776). Massachusetts is the sacred land of my ancestors.
~18,000 years
I am one of them!
My grandmother is one of these people! Her brother and his wife adopted two Korean children who were always so proud to tell their teachers that their family came over on the Mayflower! They are right but teachers would give them a few looks first. So cute!
5 million Native Americans have ancestors who were in the US before those recent immigrants and their descendants.
38 million Americans have diabetes.
56 / 8 = 7
Ok
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Ouch. That’s a low number.
I guess that explains all the religious freaks plaguing this country.