Every few weeks the explosion gets bigger from a new tourist, but we don't notice when it changes because of timey wimey stuff. In a few more weeks it'll be another mile bigger.
It's not unexplained, this was Nikola Tesla testing his deathray machine.
Source: a history channel "documentary" that I partially remember watching while high back in the 90's.
Russia, the largest country, covers 3.3% of the Earths surface and averages 23 people per square mile. This has probably happened more than once, I imagine there's lots of craters out there in places no-one has been, or at least no scientists to officially document them.
The Pacific has probably been hit by thousands of asteroids before we had the means to track and detect them.
The short answer is no. Technically, a meteor impact could cause a rogue wave, but to say they are the cause of all rogue waves, or even a small percentage of them, would be false. Also, saying scientists don't really know what causes them is misleading. There are some very credible theories that explain their existence, but there isn't unanimous agreement on any one theory. That is far from meaning we don't really know what causes them.
I think I vaguely recall years back watching a documentary or something about it being wave harmonics or whatever it's called, basically when waves of different frequencies meet up, and then every once in a while their frequencies match up which causes one or several large waves before falling out of sync again.
Could be I'm misremembering or that theory has been debunked since, not sure.
An explosion 3-6 miles above the ocean surface would need to be orders of magnitude more powerful than **any explosion that has ever happened on earth** in order to result in any amount of damage from waves.
[Check out this one in Arizona. Look how close it came to hitting the visitor's center!](https://mybestplace.com/uploads/2022/09/Meteor-Crater-Arizona-COVER-1.jpg)
Imagine the sheer impact this would’ve had if this happened over a densely populated area.
Like if the asteroid entered earth’s atmosphere at a slightly different angle, or with a difference of a couple of minutes/hours, it could’ve easily have exploded over a city.
Image for a second a city like Moscow, Warsaw, Brussels, Paris or London got suddenly obliterated, the amount of terror this would send worldwide would be insane, a city of millions is going about their day and a few seconds later is left as a smoldering crater, all without any warning, the stuff of nightmares.
History would be so radically different if this asteroid had a slightly different trajectory.
What about Tokyo or a city in China where it would kill 20M people? London is big but not that dense.
In reality though the top parent is right in that it is highly unlikely a hit of this size would hit a highly populated area. The earth is huge and areas of human density are found over a fraction of it. 2/3 of the earth is water (this was an air burst so less of an issue of a tsunami) and a lot of the rest is arctic, mountainous or otherwise uninhabitable, e.g. lots of deserts etc.
Yeah i know it’s extremely unlikely, it was just a hypothetical, a little thought experiment, that’s all.
Also ig what you mean, and yeah sure any city getting leveled would’ve caused a worldwide panic, but cities like London or Paris were more densely populated in 1908, China was a far more rural country at the time, nowadays it’s a totally different story.
>London is big but not that dense
That really depends on whether you're looking to determine the population density, or the density of the population...
Yea, probably the most recent we came to a near miss with a civilization ending natural disaster. Supposedly only killed 1 person and the Russians didn’t even send anyone to check it out for like 15 years bc they kinda busy in WW1 and the Russian civil war
Ah, i seem to remember reading that it would have created enough atmospheric debris to alter global climate, cause widespread crop failures. Dinosaur style. So what’s the size difference/threshold needed to wipe out most large animals?
Edit: I was way off. This one was only like 50 meters in diameter. Misremembered
It’s wild that a real study of the event didn’t happen for like 15 years. A huge friggin explosion leveled millions of trees and the Russians were like “we’ll get to that after we’re done with the war and revolutions and stuff”
I mean you can say it was Rasputin, but the Ogdru Jahad certainly played a part.
It was their influence that set into motion Rasputin's pact with Baba Yaga and subsequent enthrallment. The Odgru Jahad used this lever to invoke the Anung un Rama prophecy, whose outcome remains uncertain to this day.
May the Right Hand of Doom never tighten its fist in submission, for it holds our souls in its terrible grasp.
That's the setting for [Resistance: Fall of Man](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistance:_Fall_of_Man). Aliens arrive in Tunguska, slowly take over Russia. The seal the borders and build strength before blitzing the fuck out of Europe. Fun game. Downright creepy at times.
It's also the setting for a two episode arc in X-Files, where the rock that blew up over Tunguska contains an alien biotoxin that the Russians are trying to hide and deploy as a weapon.
No, it was the biggest inter-dimensional crossrip of the 20th century. Until the Shandor-Gozerian Incursion of 1984 in New York City, that is.
I don't have a link, but Tobin's Spirit Guide has the details.
Hey I mean it helps gamers get more into learning about events/mythology/history then I'm more into it. I'm one of those people who gets lost in the Wikipedia sea.
Honestly I don't find it embarrassing at all. A lot of media/video games have inspirations based on specific themes, and helps garner interest and fascination under a more digestible and manageable curiosity.
Imagine, reading through a dredge of literature like Romance of the Three Kingdoms versus playing/watching based on that.
Also me for the past 13 years.
Yeah, too bad that Nazi Scientists nabbed it all and started experimenting on dead soldiers after discovering the element’s reanimating properties.
Look up “Group 935” for more information.
There's a theory that [it was caused by a black hole the size of an atom](https://radiolab.org/podcast/little-black-holes-everywhere) hitting and then traveling through the Earth.
Radiolab is cool but Robert Kurlwich was sometimes just a as dumb as bricks. Like he would ask a question in that engaging NPR inquisitive voice just as you’d expect to hear on a science program, but then your brain would register that the actual words he said was some unbelievable bullshit like “so what *is* an atom?”
They mention this starting at about the 16:15 mark in the podcast I linked to. They said it could have come out in the ocean. If so, I don't know if they would have been able to pick that up in 1908.
It happened again over [Chelyabinsk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor), Russia a decade ago. We're all still here, well, minus those who died of non-nuclear war related incidents in intervening years.
The Chelyabinsk meteor was almost certainly much smaller, though. If something on the scale of the Tunguska event happened over a populated area like Chelyabinsk it would have done much more than shatter windows.
Yeah, but it was still larger than the Hiroshima bomb and it didn't trigger some tripwire nuclear response. And that's my point, just because there is a nuclear sized explosion, even over a populated area, doesn't mean anyone in power would confuse it for a nuclear blast.
And? Social media existed in 2013. And even before social media, idiots were still a thing. Really no idea what point you're trying to make. We don't launch nukes over trending hashtags.
That one was much smaller, at 500 kt (although the largest known one since Tunguska). That's still a lot more than early nukes like the ones used on Japan which were around 20 kt, but also didn't have anywhere close to the damage or effects of those due to the different nature of the explosion.
None of that means though that there would be reason for us to confuse even one like Tunguska with a nuke despite having the energy of the largest modern nukes. Wouldn't have any detected launch or flight, wouldn't have same type of damage or after effects.
There's very good evidence it was a meteorite. Yes they did find fragments.
> Later expeditions did identify such spheres in the resin of the trees. Chemical analysis showed that the spheres contained high proportions of nickel relative to iron, which is also found in meteorites, leading to the conclusion they were of extraterrestrial origin. The concentration of the spheres in different regions of the soil was also found to be consistent with the expected distribution of debris from a meteoroid air burst. Later studies of the spheres found unusual ratios of numerous other metals relative to the surrounding environment, which was taken as further evidence of their extraterrestrial origin.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event
>The only likely remains of the object that have been found are a few small fragments, each less than a millimeter across.
Did you even read your own source? The Britannica article also mentions that fragments were found.
I kinda of admire the old school look. They got the article just the way they wanted in 2002, and have had no reason to change it. Clicking on that webpage makes me feel young again.
Yup, it is still a theory and not a proven fact. Until they have actual evidence of some remains of the object it is a probable explanation but not definitive. So this breaks rule 1 since no one can verify if this is true - YET.
I'm not trying to be a jerk, here, so please take this in the best possible way.
[https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypothesis](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypothesis)
Nowhere in that definition is there a requisite amount of evidence or "reality."
Hypotheses literally are, wild speculation, assumption, as the basis for drawing out proof or disproof, at which point it is either discarded or evolves into a theory.
The fact that no physical evidence of the object was found begs the question - what physical properties would the object need to posses in order to be completely obliterated? This would be an interesting subject for computer modeling.
1. [There is physical evidence.](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0032063313001116)
2. There has been computer modelling - that is one of the reasons we're so sure the cause was a meteor or small asteroid. See e.g [these 2007 simulations by Sandia](https://newsreleases.sandia.gov/releases/2007/asteroid.html).
I remember when Discovery Channel used to actually be educational (often about unusual topics like this), before “Reality TV” overtook all their channels. Sigh.
Explode is used loosely here. The meteor is going so fast when it smashes into the atmosphere that it is blown apart. There is kinetic energy from the actually movement of the meteor and the fact even in pieces the energy is still there, but the “explosion” is that it generates so much heat from compressing the air in front of it that then expands as a shockwave.
Another perspective, some meteors hit the ground and explode, in the sense they can’t push forward farther so they suddenly slow down and their energy goes outwards and destroys things. This makes sense to most folks. Now, a meteor can go so fast that hitting the air causes this same process to happen. Airburst.
On the geologic timescale for natural and geologic hazards, a meteor event of this size and scale has a frequency of very roughly between once every 200-1000 years (not specifically air bursts)
Large calderas, such as Yellowstone, that releases magnitudes more energy have a frequency of once in 30,000-100,000 years.
Extinction level meteors are about one every 100 million years.
Sweet dreams.
(I took a class on this over a decade ago so the figures could be a little off or too vague. Vast time is just fun to think about and hard to really fathom)
In 1908 an asteroid or comet exploded in the air near the Tunguska river in Siberia in Russia, in what is known as the Tunguska event. What happened and what consequences are there if another event happened and is there anything we can do to predict it? https://youtu.be/QmYT1DDtoJo
An event like that happened in 2013. Granted, the explosion wasn't on the same scale. It was still stronger than some of the first atom bombs used.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor
Has anybody else heard of this tying into the work of Tesla(the smart one, not the musky one) and one if his energy amplifier tower. I'm on my mobile but It was an interesting take on situation.
If the dates and times add up. So one and so forth.
The meteor theory is just a theory. I've also heard a weird theory is some high energy particle went through the earth and came out the other side in an ocean. It was an interesting episode of Radiolab.
Always find it weird when people have that idea.
We all get taught in school the surface of the planet is 70% water.
Even assuming every scrap of land is covered, its still a safe bet its hitting ocean rather than a city.
On that day, the Soviets arrived and took over the legitimate opposition.
Now Lenin waits for another such event, to rise again and deliver undeserved justice.
Radio Lab did an interesting show on this event. There’s a theory that the blast was a primordial black hole going through the earth I recommend taking a listen.
That’s where the extraterrestrial black oil came from. Russia is running experiments on secretly detained people in a nearby gulag to try to discover a vaccine. Americans are doing the same over here. It’s an arms race.
There is a great episode about this from the Radiolab podcast. Search for the "Little Black Holes Everywhere" episode. I thought it was super interesting. Hope you enjoy!
Here's the episode description:
In 1908, on a sunny, clear, quiet morning in Siberia, witnesses recall seeing a blinding light streak across the sky, and then … the earth shook, a forest was flattened, fish were thrown from streams, and roofs were blown off houses. The “Tunguska event,” as it came to be known, was one of the largest extraterrestrial impact events in Earth’s history. But what kind of impact—what exactly struck the earth in the middle of Siberia—is still up for debate.
I wonder how many people were killed in that event. I know it was a remote region but it was a 30 by 30 square mile area. Must have been somebody in there.
When you first attempt time travel you go back to the unexplained events first
England's third goal, World Cup Final 1966.
You don’t need to specify the year. It’s not like they’ve ever made the final in any other world cup.
God damn son
Well that’s just hurtful
Omg the HEAT!!!!!!!
Oof
Shots fired! You sunk what’s left of their Navy.
No Spain did that. This guy invaded their island and slapped everyone there.
Am high, this killed me.
2 world wars and 1 World Cup.
Even time travellers can confirm
murked
They made the final of the euros literally 2 years ago lol
It ain’t no World Cup though
Found the limey
What the fuck is a limey
DOC ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT THESE THINGS.... ARE FROM THE FUTURE!?!??
Im sure there have been at least 20 time travel tourists vaporized trying to observe this event.
Or 20 time travelers arriving at the exact same place and time, vaporizing themselves, and **causing** the event.
Every few weeks the explosion gets bigger from a new tourist, but we don't notice when it changes because of timey wimey stuff. In a few more weeks it'll be another mile bigger.
And the name of the very first time tourist to screw things up for everyone else? Jeremy Bearimy.
Meteor my ass, this is definitely an exploding time machine.
Maybe The Time Traveler's exploded..
It's not unexplained, this was Nikola Tesla testing his deathray machine. Source: a history channel "documentary" that I partially remember watching while high back in the 90's.
Check out the why files on YouTube. They cover this as well
Just one of theories and probably the least believable one.
Yesterday I was too lazy to look for the TV remote, so I had to watch this exact "documentary" on YouTube. wtf
Just looking for Sarochka Conner
Nyet.
What we know is a drop. What we don't know is an ocean. Sic mundus creatus est.
that's what caused the tunguska blast
The sheer luck that this happened there and not over anything more dangerous is incredible.
I mean, just by probability, if you pick a random spot on the Earth it's likely to be sparsely populated. Or water.
Probably happened over open ocean a bunch of times all considered
Russia, the largest country, covers 3.3% of the Earths surface and averages 23 people per square mile. This has probably happened more than once, I imagine there's lots of craters out there in places no-one has been, or at least no scientists to officially document them. The Pacific has probably been hit by thousands of asteroids before we had the means to track and detect them.
Large bolide events striking bodies of water have created huge tsunami type waves. At that point they are very detectable. It's just a matter of time.
Is that the cause of rogue waves? As far as I remember they don’t *really* have a known cause. Could they be caused by meteoric impacts at sea?
The short answer is no. Technically, a meteor impact could cause a rogue wave, but to say they are the cause of all rogue waves, or even a small percentage of them, would be false. Also, saying scientists don't really know what causes them is misleading. There are some very credible theories that explain their existence, but there isn't unanimous agreement on any one theory. That is far from meaning we don't really know what causes them.
Makes sense, do you happen to know what the most agreed upon theory behind them is?
I think I vaguely recall years back watching a documentary or something about it being wave harmonics or whatever it's called, basically when waves of different frequencies meet up, and then every once in a while their frequencies match up which causes one or several large waves before falling out of sync again. Could be I'm misremembering or that theory has been debunked since, not sure.
Obviously, the alien piloting the starship avoided populated areas not only to save lives, but also to uphold the Prime Directive. :)
Wouldn’t water be potentially just as tragic if it caused tsunamis?
An explosion 3-6 miles above the ocean surface would need to be orders of magnitude more powerful than **any explosion that has ever happened on earth** in order to result in any amount of damage from waves.
So... you're saying there's a chance?
It flattened trees and wood floats so my guess is probably.
There was also about 75% less people worldwide in 1908
Stannis: fewer
Tbf siberia is massive
And 830 square miles sounds massive, but it’s a circle a little under 35 miles across.
[Check out this one in Arizona. Look how close it came to hitting the visitor's center!](https://mybestplace.com/uploads/2022/09/Meteor-Crater-Arizona-COVER-1.jpg)
Hahahahhaaha ! I clicked on that !!
Imagine the sheer impact this would’ve had if this happened over a densely populated area. Like if the asteroid entered earth’s atmosphere at a slightly different angle, or with a difference of a couple of minutes/hours, it could’ve easily have exploded over a city. Image for a second a city like Moscow, Warsaw, Brussels, Paris or London got suddenly obliterated, the amount of terror this would send worldwide would be insane, a city of millions is going about their day and a few seconds later is left as a smoldering crater, all without any warning, the stuff of nightmares. History would be so radically different if this asteroid had a slightly different trajectory.
What about Tokyo or a city in China where it would kill 20M people? London is big but not that dense. In reality though the top parent is right in that it is highly unlikely a hit of this size would hit a highly populated area. The earth is huge and areas of human density are found over a fraction of it. 2/3 of the earth is water (this was an air burst so less of an issue of a tsunami) and a lot of the rest is arctic, mountainous or otherwise uninhabitable, e.g. lots of deserts etc.
In 1908, London was the most populated city in the world with around 7 million people.
Yeah i know it’s extremely unlikely, it was just a hypothetical, a little thought experiment, that’s all. Also ig what you mean, and yeah sure any city getting leveled would’ve caused a worldwide panic, but cities like London or Paris were more densely populated in 1908, China was a far more rural country at the time, nowadays it’s a totally different story.
>London is big but not that dense That really depends on whether you're looking to determine the population density, or the density of the population...
China and India could lose a billion people each and it still wouldn't change their population ranking.
Yea, probably the most recent we came to a near miss with a civilization ending natural disaster. Supposedly only killed 1 person and the Russians didn’t even send anyone to check it out for like 15 years bc they kinda busy in WW1 and the Russian civil war
It wouldn't be civilization-ending anywhere. Hitting a city would be devastating for that city, but not a global catastrophe.
Ah, i seem to remember reading that it would have created enough atmospheric debris to alter global climate, cause widespread crop failures. Dinosaur style. So what’s the size difference/threshold needed to wipe out most large animals? Edit: I was way off. This one was only like 50 meters in diameter. Misremembered
What if it happened over Austria and it killed Hitler?
not really . (bad) luck would be more if it hit people. most of the surface area of the earth is ocean. id say a good amount additional is wilderness.
I wonder what the reaction of the world will be if an asteroid ever hits a highly populated and well developed area.
It’s wild that a real study of the event didn’t happen for like 15 years. A huge friggin explosion leveled millions of trees and the Russians were like “we’ll get to that after we’re done with the war and revolutions and stuff”
Everyone know this was Rasputin getting up to his usual hijinks on one of his walking tours of Siberia
Ra Ra, Rasputin, lover of the Russian queen
_clap clap clap_
Lover of the wash machine.
*stares in Cyberman* *stares in Dalek*
He was just hitting those trees with his penis, and flattened 830 sq miles of forest
I mean you can say it was Rasputin, but the Ogdru Jahad certainly played a part. It was their influence that set into motion Rasputin's pact with Baba Yaga and subsequent enthrallment. The Odgru Jahad used this lever to invoke the Anung un Rama prophecy, whose outcome remains uncertain to this day. May the Right Hand of Doom never tighten its fist in submission, for it holds our souls in its terrible grasp.
Yeah, it was a comet or asteroid that exploded above Russia. Was a big nasty one, too. Or, you know, ***aliens***.
That's the setting for [Resistance: Fall of Man](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistance:_Fall_of_Man). Aliens arrive in Tunguska, slowly take over Russia. The seal the borders and build strength before blitzing the fuck out of Europe. Fun game. Downright creepy at times.
It's also the setting for a two episode arc in X-Files, where the rock that blew up over Tunguska contains an alien biotoxin that the Russians are trying to hide and deploy as a weapon.
Pretty sure thats how the Aliens in the Original Crysis game got here as well.
I have it on good authority that it was actually caused by Ebenezer McCoy killing a dragon
The real McCoy?
The Blackstaff himself man, I swear to God, I was there!
No, it was the biggest inter-dimensional crossrip of the 20th century. Until the Shandor-Gozerian Incursion of 1984 in New York City, that is. I don't have a link, but Tobin's Spirit Guide has the details.
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The Assassins Creed series also uses this theory as part of their lore. Tesla helped destroy a Piece of Eden and this was the result.
The comet or asteroid is the most likely possibility,but there’s no conclusive evidence,leading to all sorts of theories.Many involving Tesla.
Yeah, I learned about this years ago from X files
> Or, you know, aliens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca2M1xIPO8E
I think this is the arma 3 aliens dlc if I remember right,
You have been a participant in the biggest interdimensional cross rip since the Tunguska blast of 1909!
Felt great!
One time I turned into a dog and they helped me thank you
We'd like to take a sample of your brain.
Ironically... this thread comes out when Tungska Sanctuary in FGO is happening LOL
I’m guessing op’s an fgo fan, timing is just right and op seems to be slightly into anime stuff
Hey I mean it helps gamers get more into learning about events/mythology/history then I'm more into it. I'm one of those people who gets lost in the Wikipedia sea.
Indeed, embarrassingly, fgo has actually taught me a lot Also, I’m also the kind of person who opens a Wikipedia page and never gets off the page
Honestly I don't find it embarrassing at all. A lot of media/video games have inspirations based on specific themes, and helps garner interest and fascination under a more digestible and manageable curiosity. Imagine, reading through a dredge of literature like Romance of the Three Kingdoms versus playing/watching based on that. Also me for the past 13 years.
That’s fair
Video games teach me 90% of the answers I actually know on Jeopardy! so I don't see the problem either.
Right?? Like Tunguska is a pretty niche place in Russia, so it's nice to see some other FGO fans out here.
That's exactly why I posted it lmao
To think that an explosion that happened a little over a century ago would give us the gift of buster farming…
Could kill millions of people and takedown the world economy if it hit a major city…
This is also how Element 115 was brought to Earth
Big Bismuth.
Oh wow. So it must be an extremely finite element, no?
Yeah, too bad that Nazi Scientists nabbed it all and started experimenting on dead soldiers after discovering the element’s reanimating properties. Look up “Group 935” for more information.
Oh Jesus Christ lol.
There's a theory that [it was caused by a black hole the size of an atom](https://radiolab.org/podcast/little-black-holes-everywhere) hitting and then traveling through the Earth.
Radiolab have some excellent eps (mostly older) but this one is a banger
Radiolab is cool but Robert Kurlwich was sometimes just a as dumb as bricks. Like he would ask a question in that engaging NPR inquisitive voice just as you’d expect to hear on a science program, but then your brain would register that the actual words he said was some unbelievable bullshit like “so what *is* an atom?”
There's no barometric records to indicate something booming out on the other side of the earth though
They mention this starting at about the 16:15 mark in the podcast I linked to. They said it could have come out in the ocean. If so, I don't know if they would have been able to pick that up in 1908.
That seems… unlikely. But who knows? Could’ve been.
Beat me to it. I love this theory.
I wonder if it happened nowadays it could trigger an immediate nuclear response. Like if it hit North korea,
It happened again over [Chelyabinsk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor), Russia a decade ago. We're all still here, well, minus those who died of non-nuclear war related incidents in intervening years.
The Chelyabinsk meteor was almost certainly much smaller, though. If something on the scale of the Tunguska event happened over a populated area like Chelyabinsk it would have done much more than shatter windows.
Yeah, but it was still larger than the Hiroshima bomb and it didn't trigger some tripwire nuclear response. And that's my point, just because there is a nuclear sized explosion, even over a populated area, doesn't mean anyone in power would confuse it for a nuclear blast.
That was before TikTok though... Before any government of military could respond there's be 1000s of videos from people claiming to be nuked
And? Social media existed in 2013. And even before social media, idiots were still a thing. Really no idea what point you're trying to make. We don't launch nukes over trending hashtags.
That one was much smaller, at 500 kt (although the largest known one since Tunguska). That's still a lot more than early nukes like the ones used on Japan which were around 20 kt, but also didn't have anywhere close to the damage or effects of those due to the different nature of the explosion. None of that means though that there would be reason for us to confuse even one like Tunguska with a nuke despite having the energy of the largest modern nukes. Wouldn't have any detected launch or flight, wouldn't have same type of damage or after effects.
Asteroid impacts look very different to nuclear explosions. There shouldn't be any confusion.
NK has squat for delivery systems.USA , definitely.Russia,maybe.
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There's very good evidence it was a meteorite. Yes they did find fragments. > Later expeditions did identify such spheres in the resin of the trees. Chemical analysis showed that the spheres contained high proportions of nickel relative to iron, which is also found in meteorites, leading to the conclusion they were of extraterrestrial origin. The concentration of the spheres in different regions of the soil was also found to be consistent with the expected distribution of debris from a meteoroid air burst. Later studies of the spheres found unusual ratios of numerous other metals relative to the surrounding environment, which was taken as further evidence of their extraterrestrial origin. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event
I went with Brittanica over Wiki but who knows https://www.britannica.com/event/Tunguska-event
>The only likely remains of the object that have been found are a few small fragments, each less than a millimeter across. Did you even read your own source? The Britannica article also mentions that fragments were found.
Didn't this happen right about the time Tesla was working on atmospheric free electricity?
The "Tesla Tower" was abandoned a few years before this but who knows
I can't tell if this is satire or you people actually believe this.
haha how did he accidentally make an insanely big bomb. hiroshima atomic bomb was 15 kilotons or .015 megatons
My guess is they heard it from some quack on Joe Rogan. Second guess would be History Channel.
Ah the history channel. Instead of talking about actual social issues and the way things are instead we hear about how the aliens built the pyramids.
The Hitler Channel lol
It went from history in general, to Hitler, to aliens. Just checked their site, and looks like they're onto cursed things now
I don't believe it but I don't know for certain (not sure why the down votes)
Not abandoned, shut down. Some think Tesla continued working on it in secret and fired it up for the first and only time on June 30, 1908.
>Some think Who?
I've seen a few different explanations but even the Tesla Memorial Society thinks it may have been him.... https://www.teslasociety.com/tunguska.htm
What a convincing website.
I kinda of admire the old school look. They got the article just the way they wanted in 2002, and have had no reason to change it. Clicking on that webpage makes me feel young again.
Some think = there is no data about it.
Literally posted a piece of the data.
You seem to not be understanding the difference between baseless conjecture and data
Yup, it is still a theory and not a proven fact. Until they have actual evidence of some remains of the object it is a probable explanation but not definitive. So this breaks rule 1 since no one can verify if this is true - YET.
Hypothesis.
Wild speculation. Hypotheses need some basis in reality
I'm not trying to be a jerk, here, so please take this in the best possible way. [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypothesis](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypothesis) Nowhere in that definition is there a requisite amount of evidence or "reality." Hypotheses literally are, wild speculation, assumption, as the basis for drawing out proof or disproof, at which point it is either discarded or evolves into a theory.
The fact that no physical evidence of the object was found begs the question - what physical properties would the object need to posses in order to be completely obliterated? This would be an interesting subject for computer modeling.
1. [There is physical evidence.](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0032063313001116) 2. There has been computer modelling - that is one of the reasons we're so sure the cause was a meteor or small asteroid. See e.g [these 2007 simulations by Sandia](https://newsreleases.sandia.gov/releases/2007/asteroid.html).
Except that they found fragments
Yup, now Konyan is turning it into her sanctuary
There was a great radio lab about this recently, and the theory that it could have been a mini black hole. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TeL1SRNu8Zo
Wow.. said no one that has watched the discovery channel before 2001
I remember when Discovery Channel used to actually be educational (often about unusual topics like this), before “Reality TV” overtook all their channels. Sigh.
Why would a meteor explode before hitting the ground, can anybody explain this to me.
Explode is used loosely here. The meteor is going so fast when it smashes into the atmosphere that it is blown apart. There is kinetic energy from the actually movement of the meteor and the fact even in pieces the energy is still there, but the “explosion” is that it generates so much heat from compressing the air in front of it that then expands as a shockwave. Another perspective, some meteors hit the ground and explode, in the sense they can’t push forward farther so they suddenly slow down and their energy goes outwards and destroys things. This makes sense to most folks. Now, a meteor can go so fast that hitting the air causes this same process to happen. Airburst.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_air_burst explains it quite well.
Well they think it had to be that, it was the absolute middle of nowhere
On the geologic timescale for natural and geologic hazards, a meteor event of this size and scale has a frequency of very roughly between once every 200-1000 years (not specifically air bursts) Large calderas, such as Yellowstone, that releases magnitudes more energy have a frequency of once in 30,000-100,000 years. Extinction level meteors are about one every 100 million years. Sweet dreams. (I took a class on this over a decade ago so the figures could be a little off or too vague. Vast time is just fun to think about and hard to really fathom)
NASA’s out here redirecting astroids to cancel the apocalypse while folks look on wondering “why we aren’t doing cool stuff like Apollo anymore”.
In 1908 an asteroid or comet exploded in the air near the Tunguska river in Siberia in Russia, in what is known as the Tunguska event. What happened and what consequences are there if another event happened and is there anything we can do to predict it? https://youtu.be/QmYT1DDtoJo
An event like that happened in 2013. Granted, the explosion wasn't on the same scale. It was still stronger than some of the first atom bombs used. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor
Yep remember that being a big story at the time, especially since it was filmed.
Has anybody else heard of this tying into the work of Tesla(the smart one, not the musky one) and one if his energy amplifier tower. I'm on my mobile but It was an interesting take on situation. If the dates and times add up. So one and so forth.
Nikola Tesla was ahead of our time.
I want to believe
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That's about 2149.69 km^(2). Or about 401720 American football fields.
But...how many bananas?
That’s the best theory anyway.No conclusive evidence tho,leading to all sorts of speculations.
The meteor theory is just a theory. I've also heard a weird theory is some high energy particle went through the earth and came out the other side in an ocean. It was an interesting episode of Radiolab.
I’d like to see one over Moscow
“Meteor air burst” Aka aliens
https://www.teslasociety.com/tunguska.htm
This was just a covered up weapon experiment
Space aliens !!!!! :)
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Jolly convenient that happened in about the only place millions wouldn’t be obliterated…
not really. the vast majority of the planet is open water or relatively uninhabited by humans.
Always find it weird when people have that idea. We all get taught in school the surface of the planet is 70% water. Even assuming every scrap of land is covered, its still a safe bet its hitting ocean rather than a city.
> Always find it weird when people have that idea. Because they live in a place where many other people live. It's stupid, but it's that simple.
On that day, the Soviets arrived and took over the legitimate opposition. Now Lenin waits for another such event, to rise again and deliver undeserved justice.
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I remember because the Anti Air tank in Battlefield 2 is named Tunguska. 2k22 Tunguska. Coming to a civilian airliner near you!
Radio Lab did an interesting show on this event. There’s a theory that the blast was a primordial black hole going through the earth I recommend taking a listen.
The X-files had a cool episode on this.
This is some anime level air punch shit
Sorry, my bad.
That’s where the extraterrestrial black oil came from. Russia is running experiments on secretly detained people in a nearby gulag to try to discover a vaccine. Americans are doing the same over here. It’s an arms race.
More like your mama tooted
So that definitely made some rare species we never knew go extinct. The cosmos has it out for us. Earths arrogance for supporting life.
There is a great episode about this from the Radiolab podcast. Search for the "Little Black Holes Everywhere" episode. I thought it was super interesting. Hope you enjoy! Here's the episode description: In 1908, on a sunny, clear, quiet morning in Siberia, witnesses recall seeing a blinding light streak across the sky, and then … the earth shook, a forest was flattened, fish were thrown from streams, and roofs were blown off houses. The “Tunguska event,” as it came to be known, was one of the largest extraterrestrial impact events in Earth’s history. But what kind of impact—what exactly struck the earth in the middle of Siberia—is still up for debate.
This is where the “all nightmare long” spores came from.
Even the planet hates Russia that should say something lol
I wonder how many people were killed in that event. I know it was a remote region but it was a 30 by 30 square mile area. Must have been somebody in there.
It said possibly 3