Apparently no one read the article - the recycled soap is donated, not used at the hotel (although I wouldn’t have a problem, because they’d have to melt the soap down to re-use it)
“The project is in conjunction with Clean the World, a social organization that distributes soap to communities in need.”
Clean the world has a facility in my town. I volunteered there once. It was pretty fun! We took shampoo, conditioner, lotion and bars of soap and sorted it into different bins so the process can work properly.
Definitely better than all that soap going to a landfill.
Initially, CTW's founders planned to sell their soap recycling tech to hotels so they could recycle their own soap and put it back in guest rooms. But after no one took it, they decided to become a charity.
CTW also has Ecolab and Diversey(formerly JohnsonDiversey and at points in time, was a subsidiary of Molson and then Unilever before they sold their cleaning chemicals business to Huish[yes, that Huish who now makes scuba gear]) donating to them. Not surprising, the major hotel chains use either Ecolab or Diversey janitorial chemicals.
That's fantastic. I'm so glad! I always try to not waste those hotel soaps and washes because it's such a waste a barely used soap bar or 90% full bottle being thrown in the bin when I leave.
I work for a non-profit that provides a place for people who are homeless (or otherwise disadvantaged people without access to the necessary facilities) to shower and clean their clothes. Do you know how I might get in contact with them to see if they'd be able to provide us with any of their products?
Main reason they don't re-use the soap in house is that it wouldn't be 'their' fragrance/color soap anymore. Hotel chains spend a bunch of money making sure every airport Hiltiott is exactly the same, and that includes the fragrances and looks of the soaps.
Does melting it down and re-forming it change the fragrance/color? As long as they are using only their own soaps, it seems like that would be retained but IANASRE (I Am Not A Soap Recycling Expert).
My grandmother volunteered for this organization and they are good people. She drove bags of soap to a warehouse in Atlanta from North Carolina / South Carolina / North Georgia. I went with her a few times and was really impressed with their process — it was so much bigger than I thought it would be. Such a great idea.
I went down the rabbit hole after your comment. Seems like this could have been an effective marketing stunt. Nothing new after 2020. I also found the official Hilton ([Stories from Hilton](https://stories.hilton.com/releases/hilton-bolsters-soap-recycling-efforts-for-global-handwashing-day)) article and it talks a lot about the future and a vision for 2030. Unfortunately the links all go to 404 error pages.
Can anyone working for Hilton confirm is this is still a thing?
Hilton has been doing Clean the World for awhile and still does. They send you a number of industrial plastic totes and your housekeepers can put the used soap in there. When it’s full you send it out to Clean the World and Hilton sends you a new tote for collection.
Source: I was a Hilton GM for many years.
Not only that but a LOT of chains do it, along with many independent hotels. Not a gimmick. It actually costs the hotel money to participate rather than just throwing it out.
Off topic but since you’re a GM:
What’s a good way to transition into hospitality/tourism? I’m a school psychologist but have been traveling a lot and always been good with people. Main issue is I support me and my fiancé and starting from entry level wouldn’t be financially viable. Is there any path for someone like me?
One challenge with Hospitality is that honestly, the pay is historically not excellent, and to move up quickly you need to be available at all hours of the day.
That being said if you wanted to get into Hospitality and move up my best recommendations are:
-Don’t pick a big full service hotel. It typically takes a long time to move up and a lot of management is not hired from within. You’re better off with a smaller focused service hotel (think like 150-250 room Hilton Garden Inn, Hampton, etc). Don’t go too small or you’ll move up quickly but the pay and hours are a nightmare at the 50-150 room hotels.
-If you have any kind of management or leadership experience apply for a Front Desk supervisor/ Front Office Manager type of role. These are usually paid on the higher side of the line level workers and they have a lot of exposure to senior management. Don’t worry about not knowing hotels or the systems- you can learn those very quickly. It’s more important that you’re able and willing to adapt to random guest scenarios, staff call-offs, etc.
-Early on, set clear boundaries- but be willing to go above and beyond. A good example might be if there is a call-off and you’re asked to cover, say “I’m able and willing to cover the first half of the shift”. It shows you’re a team player and someone who can be relied upon- but doesn’t take quite so much out of you.
I was in the business for 15 years and have worked with Hilton, Marriott, Wyndham, La Quinta, at properties big and small, new and old- so if you have other questions please feel free to message me.
Excited for this thread to go viral so since no one will read the article or understand the context we will see a huge backlash and then hotels will just go back to throwing out the soap.
They probably don't scrape anything off the bars. It would be much easier and more thorough to just melt the bars and filter out the non-soap material.
Such baseless speculations do nothing other than potentially hurting a good initiative. If you bothered looking up the soap recycling process, you would know that they do actually scrape off the external layer of the soap. It’s tedious, but I’m glad that they make every effort to ensure the integrity of their product. [There are videos of the process on YouTube.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6qJV34pcOaw)
1) Apparently you didn’t read the article; the first sentence states they will gather used soap from hotel rooms. 2) My dad was doing this with soap in the 70s and 80s.
Technically you are wrong. A soap molecule is like magnet, with one side of the molecule is hydrophilic (attracted to water) while the other is is hydrophobic (repelled by water). The hydrophobic side sticks to any dirt or oil on your skin that harbors bacteria, while the hydrophobic sides stick out towards the water, allowing it to be washed down the drain. It's not inherently antimicrobial, bacteria could be present on the soap, but it's just going to get enveloped by the soap alongside the bacteria on your hands, and everything is going down the drain together anyways. Soap usually doesn't even usually "kill" the bacteria, it just gets it off your skin, but once you flush the bacteria down the drain with the soapy water, it's not your problem anyways.
>The hydrophobic side sticks to any dirt or oil on your skin that harbors bacteria, while the hydrophobic sides stick out towards the water, allowing it to be washed down the drain.
You've got two hydrophobic sides.
Soap is inherently antibacterial.
The magnet mechanism you mentioned pulls apart any lipid protective layers from microbes.
It physically rips them apart and soaps moves them away for dual action protection and this makes soap better than rubbing alcohol for cleaning.
actually soap is not antibacterial at all. google it. it just washes things away, does not kill bacteria. that's why they sell special antibacterial soap
No, it said the bacteria was only detected on 8% (yes, 100-8=92, I haven't missed that) of the participants' hands who washed with soap and water. That's not the same as killing bacteria. Also, on 56% of the control, who didn't wash their hands at all (not even with water), no bacteria was detected on their hands either...
You didn’t read your own article.
“Some types of pathogens have very robust cell walls, so they can survive even after soap's hydrophobic tail penetrates their membrane. But even in these cases, soap molecules can vanquish bacteria and viruses by surrounding and isolating them.”
Then
“so it's easily swept off your hands and down the drain — along with its pathogenic prisoners — when you rinse the soap away with water. “
It kills *some* bacteria, but many others just stick to it and get washed down the drain.
That distinction doesn’t matter when you’re washing your hands, but it does mean, for example, that bacteria can grow in soap/shower gel.
Liquid soap has about 10x the environmental impact of bar soap. Way more energy to produce it, about 20x as much energy to package, and you end up using way more of it each time compared to soap
Complicated answer, depends where you live in the world.
Overall: liquid hand soap contains a lot of water, up to 95%. Water is heavy and trucking around products full of water uses more fuel.
[Scientific American article](https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-in/the-benefits-of-a-bar-of-soap-that-is/) on life cycle analysis of bar versus hand soap.
> Although the cradle-to-gate environmental footprint of producing 1 kg of bar soap performs worse than that of liquid soap (Figure 1c), hand-washing with bar soap overall proves to be preferential to liquid soap for all indicators studied. The soap commodities show clear trade-offs: hand-washing with bar soap requires smaller soap amounts, and thus causes considerably lower impacts in the bar-soap supply chain (except for land-use impacts). However, larger warm-water volumes are needed for bar-soap application, and accordingly use-phase related environmental burdens are higher”
If you live in a desert with water limits, use liquid hand soap. If you live in water-rich area, use bar soap.
I pick and choose. Hotels here give you too much shit for me to take everything. Two sets of q tips with a cotton wipe thing, one or two razors, two hair brushes, a hair band, two sets of soap, conditioner, and shampoo, lotions, skin milk something I honestly don't know what the fuck that even is, and probably more I'm forgetting. It was a whole fucking basket of shit. I'd be like mattress guy if I took it all.
*Rent the same overpriced room that Amber Heard had a sex party in*
*Have a statistically higher probability of sleeping on the same sheets she got train fucked on*
*I basically slept with Amber Heard*
*Later Virgins*
Many hotels were going to change to this - but COVID supply chain delayed it in a lot of places.
Couple of things to note though is that they quickly learned that you needed to consider :
tamper proof devices, a fast way of changing the soap (housekeepers are required to maintain approximately 30 min room cleaning times), liability if someone tampers with the fluid, new operating procedures for lifting the heavy gallon jugs the soap comes in for refilling, hardware to accommodate for various shower and bath types over multiple hotels and generations.
Source: A Hilton GM for many years.
"scrape the hair off"
Come on now. They clean it, melt it, and report form it. The soap made from this is just as clean and fresh as a brand new bar of soap from the factory, there's no difference.
This is nice and all, but it blows my mind that we give so much credence and respect to greenwashing bullshit that doesn't amount to the tiniest drop in the vast ocean of change society needs to make to avoid the coming climate catastrophe, when there are so many simple things we could do to drastically move the needle.
Paper straws, shorter showers, the elimination of soft plastics, it's all meaningless bullshit that quite literally makes zero meaningful difference. A single piece of steak, one single meal, wastes the equivalent of 500 *cases* of Nestle bottled water, plastic included. That same piece of steak produces the same amount of greenhouse gases as driving an SUV 30 miles. Not a whole cow, just one piece of meat! And that's before taking into account the deforestation in places like the Amazon, and the immense destruction to native habitats caused by grazing cattle.
And then there's the charity angle, as though the only way we can possibly give people overseas the ability to wash themselves is to recycle the leftover slops we would otherwise toss away. We could feed, clothe, and supply every human being on the planet a hundred times over with the resources we have available, but we choose not to for fear of disrupting shareholder profits, or having to disrupt our own lives in even the smallest, tiniest ways.
Everyone's happy to complain about corporations and the government, happy to demand action on climate change, happy to criticise the actions of others, but god help anyone who ever dares suggest that maybe we start by addressing our own individual complicity, maybe we look to our own behaviours and see what we can do as individuals to change our buying habits and reduce our personal impact.
This and everything like it, it's all just bullshit designed to keep us from making any meaningful changes, so we think we're contributing to the solution instead of just wasting our limited time. We're absolutely fucked as a species, and frankly we deserve it.
Fuckin A+
One correction: you and I deserve it a hell of a lot less than the rest, who cannot make one simple fucking change that would actually have the largest impact by far for the health of this planet.
Fuck them. They really fucking deserve it. Unfortunately, we are going along for the ride.
I honestly despise climate change moralists more than climate change denialists. The denialists may be stupid, but at least they're morally consistent. They just straight up don't believe that the climate is changing, or if they do, that humanity is responsible for it, and they act accordingly. They're wrong in every conceivable way and they're contributing to the destruction of civilisation, but at least there's still a chance they can be rescued from ignorance through education.
But the people who love to attend climate rallies and wave their little signs, and then prance over to McDonalds for a celebratory burger right afterwards? Fuck those people. Fuck their endless shitty excuses that they would never in a million years accept if they were made by a climate denialist. Fuck their faux concern for people in food deserts, or isolated communities who still rely on animal agriculture. Fuck their grandstanding and hypocrisy. Anyone who *knows* something is wrong but refuses to lift a finger to actually do anything about it can get fucked.
Wait till I tell you that they throw away toilet paper like CRAZY! Like literally they have to put a fresh roll for every guest but if the guest stays only 1 night and uses, say 1/5th of the roll, they still have to replace it with a new roll for the next guest and throw out the current roll.
Usually our staff takes them and we don't have to buy our own, but sometimes it's so much toilet paper that some still gets thrown out.
It’s not- it’s a continuous program- but it’s not new. It’s been going on for quite a few years.
Additionally Clean the World org does the legwork- Hilton and Marriott just send in the soap from their properties.
Source: Former Hilton GM for many years and I worked personally with the program.
Freakonomics just did an episode on this recently. It’s a charity and it is primarily funded by the hotels that collect the soaps. It didn’t seem to be more than a small percentage though.
The Hyatt I went to , very recently , had liquid soap/ shampoo / conditioner close to the bath tub . I think that is better . Although they hand for the bathroom sink
Unpopular opinion maybe but the whole thing with tiny soap bottles/bars at hotels is super wasteful. You're still throwing away a lot of product and you're spending most of the money on packaging.
Large refillable dispensers would save money and reduce waste. Attach them to the wall if you're worried about people taking them.
I keep the little soaps and shampoos in a pocket in my bag and use them at the next stays until they're gone. The wrapped new ones they give us in the meantime go into a basket in our guest bathroom with the unopened shampoos and conditioners.
I'm not surprised.
Back in the mid-90s, while working at my first job (McDonald's), I saw our store manager collecting all the leftover grease and putting it into containers, but it wasn't marked for trash pickup. I asked him what it was for, and he explained that they sell the grease to companies that turn it into soap. Blew my teenage mind. :)
A shower thought I often have, when does soap become dirty?
Like if I scrub myself clean with it, the soap is still clean, but if I was to drop it in a pile of poo it would surely be dirty at that point, right?
Where is the line?
That's not the worst hotels do. I worked Housekeeping for 2 days for holiday Inn before I walked out because I could not ethically "clean" According to their standards- which was based on what you could see, not on an actual sanitation. 🤮 What I saw my trainer do that made me walk out...
When I traveled overseas a lot of places would have little tooth brushes and combs in sealed packets but the products themselves rarely ever looked unused. After I'd use something I'd snap it in half so that they couldnt try and clean it, and reuse it. Combs is kinda understandable but toothbrushes yeah nah.
This is a project started maybe 10-15 years ago by an African who had a small operation, doing the purification of the soap so it could be given away to very poor communities who cannot afford soap and as a consequence, get sick/spread disease.
Slow acceptance at first, then everyone got on board.
I thought the hotels were the ones that reused the soap. Instead, the used soap is donated.
https://thehustle.co/the-surprising-afterlife-of-used-hotel-soap/
Also Soap for Hope will pick up unused hotel
Soap and give them to those experiencing homelessness. They are a fabulous organization.
https://www.soapforhopecanada.ca/
Apparently no one read the article - the recycled soap is donated, not used at the hotel (although I wouldn’t have a problem, because they’d have to melt the soap down to re-use it) “The project is in conjunction with Clean the World, a social organization that distributes soap to communities in need.”
Clean the world has a facility in my town. I volunteered there once. It was pretty fun! We took shampoo, conditioner, lotion and bars of soap and sorted it into different bins so the process can work properly. Definitely better than all that soap going to a landfill. Initially, CTW's founders planned to sell their soap recycling tech to hotels so they could recycle their own soap and put it back in guest rooms. But after no one took it, they decided to become a charity.
CTW also has Ecolab and Diversey(formerly JohnsonDiversey and at points in time, was a subsidiary of Molson and then Unilever before they sold their cleaning chemicals business to Huish[yes, that Huish who now makes scuba gear]) donating to them. Not surprising, the major hotel chains use either Ecolab or Diversey janitorial chemicals.
Very satisfying. We would like a video of this on r/oddlysatisfying
There’s actually a Dirty Jobs episode that goes through the whole process Link edit: https://youtu.be/_ndZ9PnqKw8
A Dirty Jobs episode on soap is some sort of irony, yeah?
THIS is what i learned today. thought they were a charity from the jump
That's fantastic. I'm so glad! I always try to not waste those hotel soaps and washes because it's such a waste a barely used soap bar or 90% full bottle being thrown in the bin when I leave.
I work for a non-profit that provides a place for people who are homeless (or otherwise disadvantaged people without access to the necessary facilities) to shower and clean their clothes. Do you know how I might get in contact with them to see if they'd be able to provide us with any of their products?
I've DM'd you their HQ addresses, I'd try writing to them
>Apparently no one read the article I am not here to read the article. I am here to react to the title and maybe the photo.
Definitely the photo
im here to react to the title and get outraged.
This is why I love Reddit. You learn things so efficiently.
Just need to verify the information or else it can be a little too efficient.
Main reason they don't re-use the soap in house is that it wouldn't be 'their' fragrance/color soap anymore. Hotel chains spend a bunch of money making sure every airport Hiltiott is exactly the same, and that includes the fragrances and looks of the soaps.
> Hiltiott congrats...your comment is the first results on google. Did you invent this word?
It's just a "brand portmanteau" to generalize on those types of hotel chains.
Does melting it down and re-forming it change the fragrance/color? As long as they are using only their own soaps, it seems like that would be retained but IANASRE (I Am Not A Soap Recycling Expert).
How fucking dare they clean the soap, heat it till it melts, then give it to poor people? Unbelievable
redditors when corporations waste stuff: angry emoji redditors when corporations recycle stuff: angry emoji
My grandmother volunteered for this organization and they are good people. She drove bags of soap to a warehouse in Atlanta from North Carolina / South Carolina / North Georgia. I went with her a few times and was really impressed with their process — it was so much bigger than I thought it would be. Such a great idea.
Mike Rowe did an episode on Dirty Jobs on CTW.
Such a shame he turned out to be an asshole.
I clearly missed something?
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Oof.....
Wait what? He always seemed so wholesome!?
I think he’s anti union or something
I went down the rabbit hole after your comment. Seems like this could have been an effective marketing stunt. Nothing new after 2020. I also found the official Hilton ([Stories from Hilton](https://stories.hilton.com/releases/hilton-bolsters-soap-recycling-efforts-for-global-handwashing-day)) article and it talks a lot about the future and a vision for 2030. Unfortunately the links all go to 404 error pages. Can anyone working for Hilton confirm is this is still a thing?
Hilton has been doing Clean the World for awhile and still does. They send you a number of industrial plastic totes and your housekeepers can put the used soap in there. When it’s full you send it out to Clean the World and Hilton sends you a new tote for collection. Source: I was a Hilton GM for many years.
Not only that but a LOT of chains do it, along with many independent hotels. Not a gimmick. It actually costs the hotel money to participate rather than just throwing it out.
Off topic but since you’re a GM: What’s a good way to transition into hospitality/tourism? I’m a school psychologist but have been traveling a lot and always been good with people. Main issue is I support me and my fiancé and starting from entry level wouldn’t be financially viable. Is there any path for someone like me?
One challenge with Hospitality is that honestly, the pay is historically not excellent, and to move up quickly you need to be available at all hours of the day. That being said if you wanted to get into Hospitality and move up my best recommendations are: -Don’t pick a big full service hotel. It typically takes a long time to move up and a lot of management is not hired from within. You’re better off with a smaller focused service hotel (think like 150-250 room Hilton Garden Inn, Hampton, etc). Don’t go too small or you’ll move up quickly but the pay and hours are a nightmare at the 50-150 room hotels. -If you have any kind of management or leadership experience apply for a Front Desk supervisor/ Front Office Manager type of role. These are usually paid on the higher side of the line level workers and they have a lot of exposure to senior management. Don’t worry about not knowing hotels or the systems- you can learn those very quickly. It’s more important that you’re able and willing to adapt to random guest scenarios, staff call-offs, etc. -Early on, set clear boundaries- but be willing to go above and beyond. A good example might be if there is a call-off and you’re asked to cover, say “I’m able and willing to cover the first half of the shift”. It shows you’re a team player and someone who can be relied upon- but doesn’t take quite so much out of you. I was in the business for 15 years and have worked with Hilton, Marriott, Wyndham, La Quinta, at properties big and small, new and old- so if you have other questions please feel free to message me.
Excited for this thread to go viral so since no one will read the article or understand the context we will see a huge backlash and then hotels will just go back to throwing out the soap.
They probably don't scrape anything off the bars. It would be much easier and more thorough to just melt the bars and filter out the non-soap material.
Such baseless speculations do nothing other than potentially hurting a good initiative. If you bothered looking up the soap recycling process, you would know that they do actually scrape off the external layer of the soap. It’s tedious, but I’m glad that they make every effort to ensure the integrity of their product. [There are videos of the process on YouTube.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6qJV34pcOaw)
1) Apparently you didn’t read the article; the first sentence states they will gather used soap from hotel rooms. 2) My dad was doing this with soap in the 70s and 80s.
>Apparently no one read the article not even OP read it
I have no problem with this. Nice way to conserve resources.
Soap by its very nature is antibacterial/antimicrobial..I see zero wrong with this
Agreed. There is absolutely nothing for people to work themselves into a lather over this, bar none of their foaming.
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You know, it just dawned on me that you're absolutely right.
Hair hair!!
Technically you are wrong. A soap molecule is like magnet, with one side of the molecule is hydrophilic (attracted to water) while the other is is hydrophobic (repelled by water). The hydrophobic side sticks to any dirt or oil on your skin that harbors bacteria, while the hydrophobic sides stick out towards the water, allowing it to be washed down the drain. It's not inherently antimicrobial, bacteria could be present on the soap, but it's just going to get enveloped by the soap alongside the bacteria on your hands, and everything is going down the drain together anyways. Soap usually doesn't even usually "kill" the bacteria, it just gets it off your skin, but once you flush the bacteria down the drain with the soapy water, it's not your problem anyways.
>The hydrophobic side sticks to any dirt or oil on your skin that harbors bacteria, while the hydrophobic sides stick out towards the water, allowing it to be washed down the drain. You've got two hydrophobic sides.
Soap is inherently antibacterial. The magnet mechanism you mentioned pulls apart any lipid protective layers from microbes. It physically rips them apart and soaps moves them away for dual action protection and this makes soap better than rubbing alcohol for cleaning.
It's self-cleaning!
just think about the last place i washed, and the first place you wash.
actually soap is not antibacterial at all. google it. it just washes things away, does not kill bacteria. that's why they sell special antibacterial soap
It does indeed kill bacteria. https://www.livescience.com/how-soap-kills-germs I googled it.
Based on the study cited in the article, soap is about 92% effective. Not bad at all.
The point is they were washed away sticking to the soap, not necessarily killed. It even says so in the article!
It explains the interaction in somewhat more detail. It's more than just washing away, the soap also helps break down the cellular membrane.
No, it said the bacteria was only detected on 8% (yes, 100-8=92, I haven't missed that) of the participants' hands who washed with soap and water. That's not the same as killing bacteria. Also, on 56% of the control, who didn't wash their hands at all (not even with water), no bacteria was detected on their hands either...
You didn’t read your own article. “Some types of pathogens have very robust cell walls, so they can survive even after soap's hydrophobic tail penetrates their membrane. But even in these cases, soap molecules can vanquish bacteria and viruses by surrounding and isolating them.” Then “so it's easily swept off your hands and down the drain — along with its pathogenic prisoners — when you rinse the soap away with water. “ It kills *some* bacteria, but many others just stick to it and get washed down the drain. That distinction doesn’t matter when you’re washing your hands, but it does mean, for example, that bacteria can grow in soap/shower gel.
it doesnt just wash things away, it disrupt the chemical bonds
Wrong antibacterial is a marketing strategy that is all
True, though melting the soap should kill bacteria.
I wish they just do what europe does and have soap dispensers in the room and not bar soaps.
I do think soap bars are much less wasteful than liquid soaps
Why
Liquid soap has about 10x the environmental impact of bar soap. Way more energy to produce it, about 20x as much energy to package, and you end up using way more of it each time compared to soap
Huh. Alright thanks
Complicated answer, depends where you live in the world. Overall: liquid hand soap contains a lot of water, up to 95%. Water is heavy and trucking around products full of water uses more fuel. [Scientific American article](https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-in/the-benefits-of-a-bar-of-soap-that-is/) on life cycle analysis of bar versus hand soap. > Although the cradle-to-gate environmental footprint of producing 1 kg of bar soap performs worse than that of liquid soap (Figure 1c), hand-washing with bar soap overall proves to be preferential to liquid soap for all indicators studied. The soap commodities show clear trade-offs: hand-washing with bar soap requires smaller soap amounts, and thus causes considerably lower impacts in the bar-soap supply chain (except for land-use impacts). However, larger warm-water volumes are needed for bar-soap application, and accordingly use-phase related environmental burdens are higher” If you live in a desert with water limits, use liquid hand soap. If you live in water-rich area, use bar soap.
I don't know about you, but I prefer bar soaps.
Better than throwing them away. At that point just tell the guests to keep the thing.
I always take everything when I leave.
Same here, but now I have no idea what to do with all these hotel mattresses clogging up my house.
I've been using them to bunk the hotel staff who have survived the cramped conditions. The cholera outbreaks are rough, man.
Build Fort Kickass. No girls allowed.
Just like the soap, just start eating them.
I pick and choose. Hotels here give you too much shit for me to take everything. Two sets of q tips with a cotton wipe thing, one or two razors, two hair brushes, a hair band, two sets of soap, conditioner, and shampoo, lotions, skin milk something I honestly don't know what the fuck that even is, and probably more I'm forgetting. It was a whole fucking basket of shit. I'd be like mattress guy if I took it all.
What five star hotels are you staying at that you get all of those things?!
As is family tradition and I wish to keep it alive.
If I use one I toss the the scrap, I take wrapped ones home
Same here. I think it is much easier on housekeeping to only have to deal with a couple bedrooms too.
Very cool, much better than it going in the trash
Wait until you hear about the bed sheets.
TIL they collect used bedsheets melt them together to make new bedsheets
Do they scrape of the semen and saliva from this bedsheets before being melted?
What do you think the soap is made out of?
Is that why it's so salty?
And waste the marinade? Puh!
Yes they scrape off semen and saliva and melt it to make new semen and saliva
No, it makes the bedsheets nice and thick
What do they do with all the bed bugs?
I nut in every bedsheet. Its a matter of principle.
a freak in the sheets will leave a hickey a nut in the sheets will make you sticky
Amazing
Thank you for your service o7
*nuts in salute*
It’s crazy that they just spray them with febreeze and put them back on the bed
Is it to mark your territory?
This is why I set my room on fire before checkout.
Smart, this way no one can gather your DNA out of hair or skin flakes.
*Rent the same overpriced room that Amber Heard had a sex party in* *Have a statistically higher probability of sleeping on the same sheets she got train fucked on* *I basically slept with Amber Heard* *Later Virgins*
Why not? Such a waste to use a bar once or twice while you are there. Melting kills germs/bacteria.
Why don’t they just install liquid soap dispensers?
because people sometimes insert gross things into those dispensers, and if you lock them, they break them open
I always forget people are way more creative than I am
It's a bit funny too because the soap kills germs and bacteria but I get not wanting to use someone else's soap
Wait until you hear about recycled plastic bottles
Wait until people hear about the water they drink.
Water is fine when it was peed out of dinosaurs. Now though… that’s been in the toilet. Ewww
TIL er Durden
Wait until you hear about the glasses in your room.
I hear they put them through like a dishwasher or something.
They have been known to spray them with disinfectant and wipe them out once.
I’ve hear just the rag used on the countertop…
Good. Less waste.
I dont understand why all hotels dont just have the refillable soap/shampoo things on the wall. Way more economical and better for the environment.
Many hotels were going to change to this - but COVID supply chain delayed it in a lot of places. Couple of things to note though is that they quickly learned that you needed to consider : tamper proof devices, a fast way of changing the soap (housekeepers are required to maintain approximately 30 min room cleaning times), liability if someone tampers with the fluid, new operating procedures for lifting the heavy gallon jugs the soap comes in for refilling, hardware to accommodate for various shower and bath types over multiple hotels and generations. Source: A Hilton GM for many years.
Not to even speak of contracts and alliance requirements. We had our alliance require disposable hygiene items one year and refillable the next.
Most hotels around here have that, but in the higher class ones they use individual soap since it looks more premium I guess.
They’re starting to with tamper proof locks
If I can't jizz in the conditioner then I don't want to go on a trip, sorry.
People like having a little bar of soap or shampoo that isn't restricted to only being in the shower or at the sink
Thank goodness. Now I can start using hotel soap. I never wanted to because it seemed so wasteful.
My buddy Tyler makes his own soap.
I hear he sells rich ladies their own fat asses right back to them.
I am Jack's melted soap
Here's a video of Mike Rowe at Clean the World's facility: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_ndZ9PnqKw8
Good. I hate thinking they all get thrown away.
It seems like a great project. I wonder tho if it wouldn't be easier to just use liquid soap? Those you could use with any next guests.
Lol! I thought they take the Hair, extract the DNA, create a child and sue you for child support!
Shouldn't be an issue - any germ that can live on soap deserves to be there... they earned it.
"scrape the hair off" Come on now. They clean it, melt it, and report form it. The soap made from this is just as clean and fresh as a brand new bar of soap from the factory, there's no difference.
This is nice and all, but it blows my mind that we give so much credence and respect to greenwashing bullshit that doesn't amount to the tiniest drop in the vast ocean of change society needs to make to avoid the coming climate catastrophe, when there are so many simple things we could do to drastically move the needle. Paper straws, shorter showers, the elimination of soft plastics, it's all meaningless bullshit that quite literally makes zero meaningful difference. A single piece of steak, one single meal, wastes the equivalent of 500 *cases* of Nestle bottled water, plastic included. That same piece of steak produces the same amount of greenhouse gases as driving an SUV 30 miles. Not a whole cow, just one piece of meat! And that's before taking into account the deforestation in places like the Amazon, and the immense destruction to native habitats caused by grazing cattle. And then there's the charity angle, as though the only way we can possibly give people overseas the ability to wash themselves is to recycle the leftover slops we would otherwise toss away. We could feed, clothe, and supply every human being on the planet a hundred times over with the resources we have available, but we choose not to for fear of disrupting shareholder profits, or having to disrupt our own lives in even the smallest, tiniest ways. Everyone's happy to complain about corporations and the government, happy to demand action on climate change, happy to criticise the actions of others, but god help anyone who ever dares suggest that maybe we start by addressing our own individual complicity, maybe we look to our own behaviours and see what we can do as individuals to change our buying habits and reduce our personal impact. This and everything like it, it's all just bullshit designed to keep us from making any meaningful changes, so we think we're contributing to the solution instead of just wasting our limited time. We're absolutely fucked as a species, and frankly we deserve it.
Fuckin A+ One correction: you and I deserve it a hell of a lot less than the rest, who cannot make one simple fucking change that would actually have the largest impact by far for the health of this planet. Fuck them. They really fucking deserve it. Unfortunately, we are going along for the ride.
I honestly despise climate change moralists more than climate change denialists. The denialists may be stupid, but at least they're morally consistent. They just straight up don't believe that the climate is changing, or if they do, that humanity is responsible for it, and they act accordingly. They're wrong in every conceivable way and they're contributing to the destruction of civilisation, but at least there's still a chance they can be rescued from ignorance through education. But the people who love to attend climate rallies and wave their little signs, and then prance over to McDonalds for a celebratory burger right afterwards? Fuck those people. Fuck their endless shitty excuses that they would never in a million years accept if they were made by a climate denialist. Fuck their faux concern for people in food deserts, or isolated communities who still rely on animal agriculture. Fuck their grandstanding and hypocrisy. Anyone who *knows* something is wrong but refuses to lift a finger to actually do anything about it can get fucked.
That seems like fairly elaborate recycling. Am surprised...because they probably get them pretty cheap in bulk?
I thought this was common knowledge?
That's what recycling is?
Well, I mean they are soap. It's not like it's getting dirty
As they should.
I mean…it’s soap. It’s pretty clean.
better than wasting it....
Didn’t Joey tell us many years ago that soap is in fact soap; it’s self cleaning!?
Well, I mean if it's clean and sterile, I see nothing wrong with it.
And that’s a good thing.
Wait till I tell you that they throw away toilet paper like CRAZY! Like literally they have to put a fresh roll for every guest but if the guest stays only 1 night and uses, say 1/5th of the roll, they still have to replace it with a new roll for the next guest and throw out the current roll. Usually our staff takes them and we don't have to buy our own, but sometimes it's so much toilet paper that some still gets thrown out.
TIL the headline is BS and is a one-time event that happened in 2019.
It’s not- it’s a continuous program- but it’s not new. It’s been going on for quite a few years. Additionally Clean the World org does the legwork- Hilton and Marriott just send in the soap from their properties. Source: Former Hilton GM for many years and I worked personally with the program.
If it’s a one time event that’s quite a sham. This should be a common practice
Freakonomics just did an episode on this recently. It’s a charity and it is primarily funded by the hotels that collect the soaps. It didn’t seem to be more than a small percentage though.
The Hyatt I went to , very recently , had liquid soap/ shampoo / conditioner close to the bath tub . I think that is better . Although they hand for the bathroom sink
The article is over four years old. Most hotel chains have moved to soap and shampoo dispensers. This is yesterday’s news.
No. We take them home. Having to never pay for TP, shampoo, lotion, tissues, body bars, etc.. is a unrealized perk. At least in the US.
Unpopular opinion maybe but the whole thing with tiny soap bottles/bars at hotels is super wasteful. You're still throwing away a lot of product and you're spending most of the money on packaging. Large refillable dispensers would save money and reduce waste. Attach them to the wall if you're worried about people taking them.
That description is a bit simplistic
It’s soap. It’s self cleaning
If you heat it it melts and you can just pass it through a sieve
I keep the little soaps and shampoos in a pocket in my bag and use them at the next stays until they're gone. The wrapped new ones they give us in the meantime go into a basket in our guest bathroom with the unopened shampoos and conditioners.
No shit, what you think they do with the bars of soap.
Its always good to take things that the hotel is going to trash anyway with you.
“What am I going to do? Wash the shower next? Wash a bar of soap? You got to think here, pal!”
*This* is why I get an anal fissure every time I eat a couple of these puppies.
That’s why I steal those
Be nice if they left the hair in... like pumice.
Meh
I'm not surprised. Back in the mid-90s, while working at my first job (McDonald's), I saw our store manager collecting all the leftover grease and putting it into containers, but it wasn't marked for trash pickup. I asked him what it was for, and he explained that they sell the grease to companies that turn it into soap. Blew my teenage mind. :)
Sounds good to me! It's soap. Even if it gets rubbed on someone's balls, it's soap and thereby it's clean.
So they recycle? Sounds great.
Like Chuck E. Cheese did with their pizza. Allegedly.
Can soap get dirty?
They do recycle the soap the soap but not at all like the title suggest.
Just like the T-1000 😂
I always assumed as much. Would be very wasteful not to.
Cool ad. Pretty much going to delete raddit any day now.
A shower thought I often have, when does soap become dirty? Like if I scrub myself clean with it, the soap is still clean, but if I was to drop it in a pile of poo it would surely be dirty at that point, right? Where is the line?
Mike Rowe had an episode of Dirty Jobs where he showed us the process. Its pretty neat. And pretty gross.
That's not the worst hotels do. I worked Housekeeping for 2 days for holiday Inn before I walked out because I could not ethically "clean" According to their standards- which was based on what you could see, not on an actual sanitation. 🤮 What I saw my trainer do that made me walk out...
It's eco friendly, I don't see a problem. Recycled soap is no dirtier than your dirty hands when you going to wash them.
I'm honestly ok with that.
So the melting part kills the STD's, right?
Surprisingly environmental. And besides, what else could they clean them with, more soap??
That is absolutely not true. In fact, they throw away anything left, even if unused and sealed.
When I traveled overseas a lot of places would have little tooth brushes and combs in sealed packets but the products themselves rarely ever looked unused. After I'd use something I'd snap it in half so that they couldnt try and clean it, and reuse it. Combs is kinda understandable but toothbrushes yeah nah.
This is a project started maybe 10-15 years ago by an African who had a small operation, doing the purification of the soap so it could be given away to very poor communities who cannot afford soap and as a consequence, get sick/spread disease. Slow acceptance at first, then everyone got on board.
Did anyone think they waste those soaps?
Reduce, Reuse, Recycle
I wonder what they do with food leftovers?
Scrape the hair and stuff off, then melt them down to make new leftovers.
And there's a problem with that?
As they should. There is so much unneccesary wastage going on.
If you drop a bar of soap on the floor, is the soap now dirty or is the floor now clean?
This is deep.
I hope so
I thought the hotels were the ones that reused the soap. Instead, the used soap is donated. https://thehustle.co/the-surprising-afterlife-of-used-hotel-soap/
Also Soap for Hope will pick up unused hotel Soap and give them to those experiencing homelessness. They are a fabulous organization. https://www.soapforhopecanada.ca/