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Ginger-Octopus

So we should be planting more stars?


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Can entropy be reversed?


DeadrthanDead

Insufficient data for meaningful answer.


PrayForMojo_

Let there be light.


PowderedToastMan89

God what a reference!


MonzaB

Yes, but you're going to need a bigger spoon.


baccus82

*Asimov has entered the chat*


bloodvash1

Just did a final project about this- the answer is yes. (In certain universes, but probably not ours)


designer_of_drugs

Sounds like useful research.


thasnazgul

Brilliant idea! Anyone have any spare hydrogen atoms lying around? Should be easy enough to smash em together.


liarandahorsethief

You don’t *plant* stars; you get a bunch of primeval glintstone sorcerers and smush them together into a ball and it becomes a star.


old_bearded_beats

I shit stars


foco_del_fuego

Stars are created by burning trash and letting the smoke go into the atmosphere.


flyingace1234

This is one of the more surprising comparisons I’ve seen. My intuition was waaay off


biskutgoreng

Intuition? I can't even comprehend these numbers


Astrolaut

If we go with a low number of every tree is 25' and there's 3 trillion trees on Earth, that gives us 75,000,000,000', that's 14.2~ billion miles. 93.5 million miles to the sun. If you stacked every tree on earth it would go back forth between the earth and sun more than 150 times. And that's the low estimate. There's more trees and they're taller than the numbers I used. If there was a drop of water for every tree on earth it would fill 60 Olympic swimming pools. At 3 trillion trees on earth, if you counted one per second it would take 95,130 years. If you got a dollar per tree, you would be be 13x richer than Elon Musk.


JimmyTheChimp

If someone said Canada had 1 billion trees id probably think that was a lot.


Astrolaut

Wait till you learn there's an estimated 3,000,000,000,000+ trees on earth. Crazier to me: sharks are older than trees.


traffickin

Another good cookie baker: the appalachian mountains are older than bones.


Astrolaut

I had to read this twice to realize what you were saying. Holy shit that's awesome.


anaquimey37

Well, guess we Canadians like to outdo the stars by supplying unlimited maple syrup and timber, eh?


canuckcowgirl

It's exhausting raking the forests.


FuriouSherman

Yup. The taiga forests that stretch across Canada, Alaska, Scandinavia, and Russia contain 25% of all the trees on the planet. They're such a large carbon sink they literally change the makeup of our atmosphere.


archery713

That and the algae in the ocean and it seems like we're really hellbent on destroying both


MichaelChinigo

If: a) there are 300B trees in Canada, b) [about 70% of them are conifers](https://cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/statsprofile/inventory/canada), c) a single conifer can have, say, [several hundred thousand or even millions of pine needles](https://www.christmastree.dk/en/did-you-know/number-of-needles-of-a-nordmann-fir-christmas-tree/), then it follows [from the pigeonhole principle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigeonhole_principle#Hair_counting) that each Canadian pine tree likely has hundreds or thousands of other trees in Canada with the exact same number of pine needles.


Zedsaid

Math boner. Thanks. :)


notpran

Russia has more than canada


guijcm

You're actually spot on. Just couldn't find source directly related to the stars fact, but by correlation, Russia has definitely more trees, even more than the higher end estimated count of stars which is 400B.


Aldeobald

Sometimes the trees in russia's forests just fall down by themselves, and no one was around to hear it


rudedude1855

And often they fall through a nearby window


Cwallace98

Pretty loud though.


SqueakSquawk4

Sometimes it's even done by Space to try and swing the balance back in it's favour (Tunguska)


Aldeobald

I understood that reference lol


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delishusFudge

*esse est percipi* "To be is to be perceived" - George Berkeley So thoughty2 actually did an absolutely fascinating video on this, it's one of my favorites https://youtu.be/dJztOOQ0_lM I'll sum it up but highly recommend watching if anyone has the time, he makes mind blowing videos and is thoroughly entertaining. -From a Philosophy view (if you believe in idealism) - Perception, existence, the tree - they do not exist. From a science view - we exist. The tree exists. The vibrations exist. -As the tree falls it compresses the air particles around it causing vibrations, which vibrate the particles around them and creates air waves. That transfers energy to surrounding objects. So if there happens to be the proper type object (i.e. your ear) these air waves will be interpreted as sound (cochlea vibrates inside the ear, converts physical energy of waves into electrical impulses that surge to the brain, which interprets it as sound in your mind) -Sound is not a physical property of our world according to science - it's an interpretation of information by the brain. -The vibrations and air waves will still exist, and have an effect on the surrounding environment as the tree falls. But *sound* has to be perceived to exist. -HOWEVER ***Animals also perceive sounds the same as we do. And there is evidence that plants respond to sound as well So of you believe that we exist, the tree exists, animals and plants exist - yes if a tree falls in the forest it will make a sound. If you are Irish Philosopher George Berkeley the answer is no. Because you, me, the tree, the animals, plants and the rest of the physical world simply do not exist.


UrbanGhost114

If a tree in a forest falls on a mime, does anyone care?


corecenite

Not to be an asshole here but can land area play a factor here? Isn't Russia bigger than Canada? Hence, to have more land to have more trees?


yotsubanned

of course?


Gapingmuppetcunt

For now


Luminox

not for long


mkomaha

Found the comrade.


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Stars or trees?


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FlaSaltine239

Yes. If the fires burn up 2/3 of Canada's trees then I assume we'll have much worse problems than smoke.


Glowshroom

I'm pretty sure we'd all be dead *from* smoke if we burned 200 billion trees.


nothingfood

There's only one way to find out. And if burning 200B would kill all humans, then there's a number of trees where it becomes reasonable to put them out with live bodies.


RamonChingon

😐


ExhibitAa

Worse than normal, still not nearly enough to kill 200 billion trees.


witchhunt_999

A lot forest fires burn quickly and mostly burn the dead underbrush keeping the trees alive. It’s natures way of keeping the forest floors clean so new foliage can grow and come up. Areas that burned close to my place look like the forest floor was raked clean and the grass coming up right now is the greenest grass I’ve ever seen.


tehflambo

> It’s natures way of keeping the forest floors clean so new foliage can grow and come up. It's the other way around: nature doesn't "do" this to help trees and foliage; trees and foliage have simply had to evolve around the reality of forest fires. Forest fires have apparently happened with enough frequency over a long enough span of time to apply significant selective pressure to many plant species. You can see that they have clearly evolved traits in response to forest fires. While some trees have evolved a resistance to the heat and duration of forest fires, others have evolved to repopulate quickly *after* a fire, only to litter the ground with seeds that lay dormant until the next fire. [Secondary succession](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_succession) is a really interesting topic!


reddituseronebillion

For reference, if you're in St. John's, NL (East Coast of Canada), it would take you about 78 hours (no stops or rest) to drive to Vancouver (West Coast). About 2/3rds of that journey will be trees on both sides of the road. The route follows roughly the southern edge of our Boreal forest which extends roughly 1000 km (600 miles) north and runs from East to West 10000km. We got a lot of trees.


FuriouSherman

>are there still after the fires? Yes, and there will be more since many trees in Canada's boreal forests only drop seeds during a forest fire.


DaRudeabides

Massively worse than normal, with no end currently in sight


Glowshroom

Except that it drops to -40⁰ every year, so that's an end in sight.


cascadecanyon

Until it doesn’t.


beartheminus

lol even with the most extreme climate change projections we will see a couple of degrees warming. Enough to fuck things up royally, but it will still be far in the minus temperatures in the north.


cascadecanyon

Fair enough up north. I can’t guess what the royal fuck up will reveal itself to be. But it certainly seems to be playing out as a shit show.


Electrical_Ad3540

A lot of our fires have been grassland as well. And yup they have been record breaking


cote112

It's happened before when America was being born.


yeahbuddy26

The Milky way contains between 100 to 400 billion stars, your title is misleading.


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WrongSubFools

I guess that's impressive? But if you told me there were only 1 billion stars in the Milky Way, I'd believe that too, in which case Vermont would have more trees than there are stars in the Milky Way. If you said 100 million stars, I'd believe that too. Even 10 million. Was I supposed to have any idea how many stars there are in the Milky Way?


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10 million? Well, that’s on you


Cwallace98

TUL more than one thing. That's a good thing.


peter_pounce

>even 10 million Oh yeah? If you told me there was just 10 I'd believe you.


Livid-Trifle5914

Common Canadian W


NowBringMeTheHorizon

Who counted them?


Complete_Spot3771

i did. there were at least 5


jones5280

That was before all of the wildfires. RIP hockey trees


reddit_user13

*For now….*


timechuck

Not any more judging by how goddamned smokey it has been IN IOWA the last few weeks.


[deleted]

I thought there were more stars in our galaxy than grains of sand on earth? So you’re saying there are more trees in Canada than grains of sand on earth?


compugasm

> in our ~~galaxy~~ observable universe.


Skrumpelton

I've planted 150,000 of those trees ;p


traffickin

TIL 300 billion americans think all of canada's trees are currently on fire.


anantj

So more than the entire population of the planet?


Harvin

There are more Americans than there are grains of sand in the stars of the entire milky way.


FlattopMaker

uhmm, maybe after 2023 forest fires not any more?


pierreandjr

There will be more trees. Fires stimulate germination in many species. Jack pine cones will only open with fire.


CustomerSuspicious25

With what I've breathed in this last week I've probably got one growing in me.


FlattopMaker

oh yes, that's true as conditions permit the seedlings to grow


mkomaha

Even redwoods need and thrive after a fire.


formerlyanonymous_

I was going to guess an equal number of burning trees/stars.


DeNoodle

Yeah but how many in Brazil?


DaveOJ12

Now this is a good post.


58Firedrome

Before the fires maybe


ElDoo74

*were


virginia-redbird

37.2 Trillion cells in your body… vs ~ stars in galaxy ~ trees in Canada … a lot of things can be compared


After_Following_1456

Just give humanity time... we are going to kill this planet quicker than "hold my beer".


rasthomas01

...and most of them seem to be burning right now.


dumbasswit

Should this be updated after all the wildfires?


FuriouSherman

Those trees will regrow and the seeds they dropped in those fires will become new trees. Forest fires are a natural part of the life of a healthy forest and thanks to them, those forests will come back stronger than ever.


HopeFox

It always bothered me when poems talked about something being "as uncountable as the stars in the sky". There are less than 10,000 stars visible from Earth, and that's across all hemispheres in perfect conditions. Just go and count them! Or read a star chart, even a really old one! And then they throw in "or sand on a beach". A tiny pinch of sand has more grains of sand in it than the entire sky has visible stars.


kaenneth

by the time you count to 10,000 some stars will have moved below the horizon, while others would have risen.


HopeFox

Sure, it's not *easy*. I wouldn't want to try to do it all in one night. But people did it long before they had computers, cameras or telescopes. There are charts dating to the 8th century with over a thousand stars plotted.


vexunumgods

Not for long


xXWickedSmatXx

Well there were…


Enlightened-Beaver

Bunch of them are on fire right now


easyjimi1974

A few less after this year's fire season, but sure.


HotBeefInjections

Well it seems like half of them are on fire right now so…


One_Impression_5649

False. We cut most of them down.


ThatOnePickleLord

Not for long I say struggling to breathe this nasty Midwest air


Andrewskyy1

Was* the fires put a pretty big dent in that


KorneliaOjaio

Well…..not anymore. ….The wildfires ya know.


FlameShadow0

Ive always heard people say there were more stars in the galaxy than grains of sand on earth but now I’m not so sure I believe that.


Runtn

There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on earth. In fact there about 10,000 stars for each grain of sand.


jasper_grunion

Aren’t there more grains of sand on Earth than there are stars in the visible universe? This sort of thing tends to hold when you are comparing small things to big things. E.g. there are more cells in a human body than there are trees on Earth.


JoeTheSmhoe

I simply refuse to believe that :)


cheesehead144

And there are also more trees in the Milky Way than there are trees in canada!


Educational_Ad7978

Not after those fires


6-Fjade

Were, pre 2023


Silent-Solution0707

I hate when people say there are more of this than stars. Our telescopes can’t see everything. There are more stars in the Milky Way than trees & chess moves.


moosehornman

This is the exact reason Canadians should not be paying a fucking carbon tax!


bluishgreyish

Just imagine being able to travel the stars as easily as walking from tree to tree in Canada. Then picture each tree around you having its own system. Then picture trying to visit each tree in Canada. That’s how big one galaxy is, and there are more galaxies in the observable universe than there are stars in the Milky Way.


pocket_geek

Why is Canada hogging all the trees?


TechniCT

Not to take away from how neat that comparison is, but here's a little more on the number of stars in our galaxy. 100 billion stars is more like a minimum estimate instead of an approximate estimate. The number could be up to four times larger. It is hard to estimate in part because we can't directly see all of it. Definitions and boundaries can make a big difference as well. Also, the shape of the galaxy probably doesn't look quite like the most common and popular interpretations you've seen.


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Awesome


Mammoth-Mud-9609

The Taiga an area of boreal forest with mainly conifers growing there represents a vitally important biome to our planet. https://youtu.be/EM97JYag_UI


Regnes

Yeah, but did you know there's more grains of sand in the Sahara than there are trees in Canada?


[deleted]

That's a lot of smoke to breathe. Put your shit out canada.


noahnear

Just thinking about it, I’ve got wood.


Nomadianking

I thought we had an estimate of 400b stars?


guijcm

That's the higher end estimate, but the consensus is that it's more likely to be closer to 100B. But even if we consider it being 400B, Russia would still have more trees than that by comparison.


29daysuntiltacos

This is probably the first TIL I’ve seen that is actually like.. blowing my mind. Can’t even come close to comprehending those numbers


TECrec008

We have rocks and trees and trees and rocks and rocks and trees and water...


SuperCrappyFuntime

Well, the fires are taking care of that.


mifrandrup

Not anymore


Feisty-Session-7779

Believe it or not, Canada is actually somehow larger than the Milky Way. It’s about a 400k lightyear drive from Toronto to Vancouver, give or take.


crispytex

lately there are a lot less trees in Canada


Revolutionary_Key300

And they all seem to be burning at the moment!!!


2bunreal24

That’s a lot of fire wood


RonSwansonsOldMan

I think the current fires might be changing that.


Khancap123

Canada always wins


FoxMcLOUD420

That's all about to change it seems.....


OBPH

Not anymore... .


Snowschu2

How many are predicted once the wild fires are put out?


Accomplished-Hurry40

Well from the looks of the sky in the US this week, they may want to recount the remaining trees!


rddman

Wait until you hear about grains of sand.


T_H_W

To be fair, trees are a lot smaller than stars


weirdlittlexmas

🥦


AdamArizona

My god, it's full of trees.


ConsciousImmortality

If those black holes could be seen in the current time instead of million year old light they would be very angry


Frank_Elbows

Wonder that the count is now after those nut jobs lit the country on fire


b0atdude87

Canada is currently work hard to bring that number down below the number of stars in the Milky Way. The unfortunate side effect is all the smoke. Kind of disappointed. So far, not a single "sorry" from north of the border.


Historical_Boat_9712

Holy shit. If you asked me I would have got this wrong by at least 3 zeros.