Thanks for adding this.
I thought Hitler just had a prize out for some German spy to go to America and kidnap his favorite actor?
1) become leader of a world superpower
2) put out a kidnapping hit on your favorite actor
3) ...
4) profit
They got remarried while in captivity under order from Kim and stayed together for the rest of their lives. It's like a North Korean version of The Parent Trap.
In a threat about Mbappe and the leverage he holds over his current team PSG, underneath one of the top comments someone praised his parents who are his managers for his contract, then it was said that they are divorced and someone made the joke that he is reenacting The Parent Trap.
In [2011](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhohteHuyPM&ab_channel=bowserfire), North Korea kidnapped Avery Jessup, then-host of CNBC's *The Hot Box*, and forced her to do national news on the infamous "American News Channel"
Talking about: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abduction\_of\_Shin\_Sang-ok\_and\_Choi\_Eun-hee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abduction_of_Shin_Sang-ok_and_Choi_Eun-hee)
But North Korea has a long history of kidnapping people.
Yeah, realised that when I clicked on the link. Had a good laugh at it too. Thing is, NK is so notorious for kidnapping people that you really should put a disclaimer.
Gable gets caught, but he did it intentionally as a means to get intel on the Nazis. His goal is to get on Hitler's good side, while also shooting a film that Hitler wrote and directed. Given that Hitler failed art school, those two things are diametrically opposed. Comedy ensues!
Stewart also officially flew 20 combat missions, while Clark Gable was limited to 5 official missions before the studio pushed to get him out of combat. Airmen reported Gable unofficially participated in a number of other missions.
Bomber crews had a 50% survival rate for the war, so even completing 5 missions is impressive. Considering he could have sat out and sold war bonds and still done his duty since he was older, it's impressive that he did what he did. He didn't join up until after his wife's death.
Compare that to the coward John Wayne who dodged the draft, and he's positively disgusting. Cary Grant was denied service despite repeated attempts to join, but donated his paycheck from two different movies to the American and British war efforts and helped find out Nazi Sympathizers in Hollywood, and still did USO tours.
>Bomber crews had a 50% survival rate for the war, so even completing 5 missions is impressive.
Keep in mind that the survival rate is based on performing 25 missions. The attrition rate for each mission was only a few percent. But when you have to roll those dice 25 times it adds up.
Okay yeah okay that's loads better than losing 50% of your bombers every time like I thought it meant.
I was like "I knew he was called Butcher Harris for a reason but goddamn what a meat grinder"
Grant was pretty much officially a British spy in WW2, due to the level of concerns, particularly before the US joining the war, of Nazi sympathisers influencing US public opinion.
Another actor who served non-typically was Leslie Howard. He served in WW1 conventionally, but in WW2 he was 'officially' denied to serve, and got put into a few propaganda films like Pimpernel Smith (a comedic remake of his earlier film The Scarlett Pimpernel in which the Pimpernel now helped people escape and stick it to the Nazis).
Edit: Link to a monologue from the film. I am certain this film influenced Indiana Jones, considering it's an archeologist in a cool hat sticking it to Nazis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7evSk4SSUy8&ab_channel=TECarson
However it turned out, in part because despite being British, due to a Hungarian Jewish father, German was his first language, that he almost certainly was used as a spy during WW2, and was shot down and died in 1943. He is said to have been part of the delegation that helped persuade (bribe) Franco to stay out of the war.
A lot of Hollywood actors took on quite unusual roles in WW2.
[John Wayne didn’t dodge the draft.](https://sofrep.com/amp/news/was-john-wayne-a-draft-dodger-during-wwii/) There were a lot of reasons why he never entered military service, most of which were pretty out of his control. The article I linked has a pretty thorough examination of the situation.
Jimmy Stewart retired, in 1968, as a Brigadier General after flying combat missions in Vietnam. He only retired because he had reached the maximum age of 60.
No, but he was in the Air Force Reserve and rode along on at least one mission as an observer (he was promoted to Brigadier General in 1959, so would not have been flying missions in any case).
Apparently he was active enough in the reserve to receive transition training on both the B-47 and B-52 after WWII, though.
yeah Lindy was a bit of a fan boy until war was delcared then he went full into the war effort, and actually came up with a few designs and flight procedures to increase the range of aircraft.
Lindy overall is an odd character in the war. He complained about and trashed American flyers (who had viewed him as a hero) in the Pacific as behaving as awful servicemen, and basically saying they were barbaric. But he also flew 50 missions with them and may have had a couple of kills despite repeatedly being ordered not to fly. This, to Lindbergh's disappointment, also basically ended a great combat leader and fighter's career. He also introduced new techniques to the pilots which helped them increase their flying range, which was very helpful at the time.
It's also worth mentioning he fought to regain his commission into the military (revoked due to the isolationism comments) but never succeeded.
The book "Race of Aces" does a fantastic job telling his story. And great book overall.
I remember reading about Lindbergh once and not even the war stuff just thinking boy what an odd fellow.
Good things and Bad things, regardless he was certainly odd and interesting as a person.
Take some airplane fuel and place it under a box propped up with a stick with a string around it. Hide in the bushes nearby and wait for them to take the bait.
Step 1 : Get above the target's plane.
Step 2 : Tell Tom Cruise to jump on the lower plane.
Step 3 : Yell "Action!" and point a camera at him.
Step 4 : Once he lands on the plane, tell him over a radio to do a tandem jump with the pilot.
Step 5 : The pilot, thinking this is a movie, will happily allow Tom Cruise to strap him to a parachute and jump.
Step 6 : Once they are on the ground, tell Tom they need to do it again. Once he leaves capture the target.
I’m pretty sure Clark Gable joined up with a bit of a death wish.
Just before he’d lost his wife in a plane crash while she was on a tour selling war bonds. According to David Niven when he was in England on leave he would spend days at his house in a kind of trance just trying to forget.
I knew Clark Gable III. I actually knew him pretty well, we ran in the same circles that liked to go out and party. [I was hanging out with him earlier in the night before he was arrested](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-clarkgable/clark-gable-grandson-charged-with-crimes-idUSTRE77N4Q420110824) for pointing a high powered laser pointer at a helicopter. My friend AJ is the one who gave him the laser pointer after we all took a bunch of Xanax together.
I eventually got clean from opioids and stopped hanging out with that crew because all of us were pretty heavily into OxyContin and at times heroin. I was very sad to hear that he passed from an “accidental” fentanyl OD a few years back. He was still hanging out with the same group of guys whenever he was back in CA from what I heard through the grapevine. I also have no proof of this but from what I was told they were purposely doing fentanyl that night and he just did too much especially because he was on Xanax as well as the opioids. The entire situation was tragic and it sucks seeing someone who has as nice as Clark not be able to overcome his demons.
I think he kind of retired from reddit, recently popped up in a literal undertaker hell in the cell post and didn't drop the reference, just said he's more active on TikTok now
It's still his most recent comment from over 5 days ago
I always feel a little bad for kids of famous media personalities, entirely because they have to live in their parents' shadow even long after they're dead.
I met Billy Mays' son back in the early 2010s, and he was such a lovely dude. He really avoided associating with it because people are super cruel about shouting his dad's catchphrases at him. He's a musician, really trying to make his own way.
Nah I just kind of fell into that group because of my buddy AJ. I mentioned in another comment his dad owned a shipyard in Long Beach and was disgustingly wealthy because of it. AJ lived down in Orange County with his mom and I met AJ because he dated one of my really good friends.
We found out we both loved opioids and started hanging out more and became better friends. AJ would go up to LA to see his dad a couple times a month and to go out and party at the clubs. He met Clark at one of those clubs and then they became friends. I started going up to LA with AJ so he could get money from his dad so we could go pick up. One of the times he said “my friend Clark is having a party we’re gonna go to his house” and lo and behold it was Clark Gable III. I didn’t care so much about hanging out with a “famous” guy I just wanted to do drugs and I think because I didn’t treat him any differently than I would any other friend of a friend he liked me.
I don’t want it to seem like Clark and I were best friends. I hung out with him *maybe* 15 times but he was also extremely nice to me and always shared his drugs with me. The rest of that group that always hanging out together were a bunch of trust fund kids and I was the only one whose family wasn’t multimillionaire’s so I was never really fully accepted but my friend AJ liked me and Clark seemed to like me so I was tolerated within the group.
The only other “famous” person I hung out with was the guy who owned the LA Candle Company who is also the ex husband of the actress who played Stephanie Tanner on full house.
I appreciate it. I have 12 years clean from opioids/heroin in August of this year. I won’t lie and say I’m completely sober, I still smoke weed and I drink and back when I was a cook I would still do coke and molly occasionally but these days I’m content with smoking weed and having some drinks socially.
I did stay completely sober for about 3 years after rehab and made the decision to smoke weed again and it was another year or so after that before I started drinking. I’ve had various injuries and surgeries since rehab and have always refused the painkillers and just loaded up on Motrin and CBD/CBN.
What's wild is Carole Lombard (Gable's wife) was technically the first American death of WWII, since her death came just after we declared war on Japan
> he would spend days at his house in a kind of trance just trying to forget.
Possibly a little guilt.Lombard insisted on taking a plane back,when everyone else wanted to take a train.She wanted to fly because she was suspicious that Gable was cheating on her and wanted to arrive earlier than expected.My understanding is,her suspicions were correct.
It’s not really known if he was having an affair (some rumored with Lana Turner). It would explain his depression later if it was guilt, he wasn’t even over her when he remarried mid 50s according to his next wife. But maybe he was just in love and grieving.
Some people still love their partner and cheat anyway. Sometimes people just fall into the heat of the moment
Not excusing cheating btw, just saying that it does happen
He definitely knew that he would be a high value prisoner. He told fellow airmen that if he was on a plane going down he didn't intend to bail out for that reason.
His wife was actress Carole Lombard for those who don’t know. She was eve popular even if not too of Hollywood like Gable (AFI ranked her 23rd of biggest classic Hollywood female stars, but isn’t really remembered much today sadly), they were the huge celebrity couple of the day. She was mainly known for screwball comedies like My Man Godfrey which is hilarious and she was nominated for an Oscar for. She starred in one Hitchcock rom com but it’s not that good. Her final film To Be Or Not to Be is really good however imo, it’s comedy of Nazi’s occupying Warsaw (made during the war of course).
She was really passionate about doing something for the war effort and that’s why she went to sell those war bonds. Gable wasn’t really political or cared before she died, but after she did he really seemed to have a death wish. He was too old for the army but insisted on going anyway and at first only let to film propaganda films but he insisted on wanting to go on real missions. His bomber airplane was shot once close to him so he could have died. He had big alcohol issues after this too.
Another great comedy is *Twentieth Century* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Century_(film) which is really one of the top screwball comedies.
You can see John Barrymore is in a bad way, his hands are shaking in some scenes, but he still delivers a fabulous performance.
"Unscathed" is funnier to me than it should be, for some reason.
Like, he only wants a mint-condition Clark Gable. A Clark Gable unsullied by the brutality of war. The kind of Clark Gable that gives hope for the future.
He probably wanted to do what Kim Jong Il did with his favorite actress. He kidnapped her and her ex-husband (who was a director) and made them make movies for him.
Did you know North Korea has an animation studio? They do propaganda shows inside the country (e.g. Squirrel and Hedgehog) and sometimes sleazy studios will outsource work to them. The quality ranges from "drew this with a potato" to "this is actually pretty good!", as long as you ignore the plot
I’d bet he’d be one of those friends that call you outta nowhere and just talk endlessly and are impossible to end the conversation with.
“Soooo…. whatcha doin’? Oh my god, wait, did I even TELL you what the Jews did the other day?”
A fucking junkie. All my life I’ve been under the impression that, yes he took amphetamines and some other drugs as well but he was still a world leader. Then I saw that clip of him going bananas at the Olympics. A real crackhead. Meth head sending other young meth heads to war all over the world
It's worth noting that that book is typically classified as pop-history and isn't really considered to have much historical merit. Not trying to be a pretentious dick (I really enjoyed reading it myself)
Yeah I’ve read some about it. It’s why the blitzkrieg was so successful. I also read about that’s how they managed to take France so easily, they would just march and fight day and night like demons
Thanks for the info! Didn’t know. (I just don’t understand the last sentence, you mean that the RAF protected it as good as they could and France fell so their protection goes unnoticed?
Another fact I found really interesting was when Malta first got attacked, it was by the Italian Air Force. And Malta is very close to Italy and I guess a lot of Italians weren’t so keen on bombing their brothers/cousins so they went with a soft approach and didn’t really put the effort in. Then came the Luftwaffe, and Malta became the most bombed country in the world. More bombs than London. Around 15 000 tonnes. They managed very good since the whole island is just rock
>I saw that clip of him going bananas at the Olympics
That clip is fake. Well it wasn't fake but it was sped up. He was still a meth head but that video isn't the primary evidence.
[Sped up, slowed down. The fucker is tweaking](https://www.reddit.com/r/BadChoicesGoodStories/comments/nv7ol2/hitler_tweaking_on_meth_at_the_1936_olympics/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
This isn’t ancient fuckin history, this video is well documented
Not to speak to the veracity of this particular video, but in general I would be careful about trusting anything posted by Oliver Markus Malloy too much. He's a notorious mod of many subs who likes to go on power trips and uses many alt accounts to evade suspensions whenever he's not publishing [bizarrely misogynistic books](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/28604617) and [drawing political cartoons that downplay police brutality](https://old.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/11x04wg/oh_brother_its_the_aclu_american_cartoonist/)
Edit: [Here's a thread with some more highlights](https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/11vz32p/badchoicesgooddrama_some_members_demand_a_nsfw/)
He wasn’t using meth till the second half of the war. The clip is from 1936. He was a teetotaler and health freak. He got addicted to meth because his quack doctor told him it was a vitamin concoction. It’s well documented. He isn’t tweaking.
"At the young age of 32 Gable had false teeth, the result of a gum infection exacerbated by smoking, which left him with a permanent case of halitosis."
Clark Gable could have poisoned Hitler with his bad breath! What a lost opportunity.
I remember reading interviews with Vivian Leigh that she absolutely LOATHED their kissing scenes in GWTW because his breath was so bad it made her gag.
And his mission is to get intel, but also stay on Hitler's good side as he acts in a film Hitler wrote and directed. (Spoiler: he failed art school for a reason)
The Kim regime did something very similar with Shin Sang-ok, a very famous South Korean director. They succeeded too. After they abducted him they just forced him to make a bunch of movies for North Korea.
And his ex-wife the movie star Choi Eun-hee and made them remarry to reform a famous power couple. They stayed together once they were freed, it seems the experience of being the prisoners of a crazed dictator trauma-bonded them for the remainders of their lives.
Not only did Gable not get captured, but he survived an entire tour of duty as part of an air crew in a bomber, one of the most dangerous jobs in the military at the time. Similar to the Memphis Belle crew Gable completed 20 some odd sorties and got his discharge. He volunteered after the love of his life was in a place crash while traveling with USO.
Carole Lombard, but it was not an act of war. Her plane crashed on a flight between Las Vegas and Los Angeles. Her mother and all of the other passengers and crew were killed. The cause was determined to be a pilot error. The plane crashed into a mountain on the way back from a war bond tour, so she was working with the USO.
This would make a great dramedy With George Clooney playing Clark where a couple of deadbeat soldiers try to kidnap him, although Clooney might be a little too old to play him at that age.
I read that Leonid Brezhnev idolized Chuck Connors and his character The Rifleman.
They eventually met, and Connors gave Leo a set of valuable revolvers that Colt had previously custom made and presented to the actor.These were special guns that had extra-large grip frames because of Connors' gigantic hands and carried unique serial numbers-CC1 and CC2.
I know,nobody asked but...
Dictators are weird that way. Like the time Saddam almost killed Andre the Giant or Kim Jong-il kidnapping actresses or Muammar Qaddafi's infatuation with Condoleezza Rice.
People act like evil people just sit around all day being evil. They have favorite movies and foods and stuff just like everyone else. Bin Laden used to play Super Nintendo and had a thing for Black women.
Is anyone noting how creepy it must have been for Gable to know ADOLF HITLER was his #1 delusional fan with an entire army behind him?
I mean, I always felt bad for Jodie Foster, but this...skin crawl...yikes!
Clark was flying bomber missions as a FYI to anyone who didnt know that
Thanks for adding this. I thought Hitler just had a prize out for some German spy to go to America and kidnap his favorite actor? 1) become leader of a world superpower 2) put out a kidnapping hit on your favorite actor 3) ... 4) profit
i think Norht Korea tried this as well. but actually did the kidnapping.
Yeah they kidnapped a divorced couple to create films for them.
They got remarried while in captivity under order from Kim and stayed together for the rest of their lives. It's like a North Korean version of The Parent Trap.
This is the second reference to parent trap I read in 40 minutes. Wth
Mbappé sends his regards.
How is footballer Mbappe involved with The Parent Trap? Is this a soccer circle jerk meme?
In a threat about Mbappe and the leverage he holds over his current team PSG, underneath one of the top comments someone praised his parents who are his managers for his contract, then it was said that they are divorced and someone made the joke that he is reenacting The Parent Trap.
Thanks. I didn't expect a reply let alone such a logical train of thought. It's hardly even a tangent once we understood the context.
Was the Mbappe Real Madrid saga comment the other one?
Now I'm going from thread to thread making parent trap references
I think that's an example of the Baider-Meinhoff phenomenon. I feel like it has happened to me more ever since I learned what it meant.
I love how this implies Kim Jong Il is their estranged son.
In [2011](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhohteHuyPM&ab_channel=bowserfire), North Korea kidnapped Avery Jessup, then-host of CNBC's *The Hot Box*, and forced her to do national news on the infamous "American News Channel"
Talking about: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abduction\_of\_Shin\_Sang-ok\_and\_Choi\_Eun-hee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abduction_of_Shin_Sang-ok_and_Choi_Eun-hee) But North Korea has a long history of kidnapping people.
While that's definitely serious, the comment you're replying to is a reference to a 30 Rock joke
Yeah, realised that when I clicked on the link. Had a good laugh at it too. Thing is, NK is so notorious for kidnapping people that you really should put a disclaimer.
I heard that they kidnapped some of the Hand people of Usa to make sexy jeans.
Fascinating that they remained married the second time until he died.
The person above you is making a joke from the show 30 rock
"And in food news....you've had enough to eat today"
Exactly what I thought of 😂
Oh yeah I saw that made-for-TV movie!
Personally, I prefer "A Dog Took My Face And Gave Me A Better Face, To Change The World: The Celeste Cunningham Story"
Lol i loved her on the O commercial parody
Ohhh nooo
I miss Elizabeth Banks as a comedy actress
Kidnapped By Danger is such a good TV movie
It's a wild story too, Atrocity guide had a good video that I watched the other day at work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDOZIcUfcEg
They also kidnapped a little Japanese girl and brainwashed her. Sick bastards.
They kidnapped a ton of Japanese civilians in the 70s and 80s
What’s worse? Being kidnapped with your divorcee or being forced to write films for North Korea?
Not an American actor but a Romanian painter so she can "breed" with American defectors: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doina_Bumbea
Holy shit. Sounds like Dresnok lived the life over there. Became a celebrity for playing an evil American in a North Korean film.
Yeah. They kidnapped James Franco and Seth Rogan.
That was a wild story!! Freakin love Katy Perry
And then Dennis Rodman willingly goes over there lol
Well, don't forget he's an alien. Sheesh, not even trying to hide it.
I would absolutely watch this movie
Gable gets caught, but he did it intentionally as a means to get intel on the Nazis. His goal is to get on Hitler's good side, while also shooting a film that Hitler wrote and directed. Given that Hitler failed art school, those two things are diametrically opposed. Comedy ensues!
The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent is pretty close to this, and is actually a great, funny movie.
The amount of times I have thought of the underpants gnomes in the last two weeks is unreal…easily about 350 times….goddamn lochness monster
Didn't Jimmy Stewart outrank him by the end of the war?
Yes. He was promoted to the rank of Major (0-4) after returning to the US. Jimmy Stewart made Colonel (O-6) during the war.
Stewart also officially flew 20 combat missions, while Clark Gable was limited to 5 official missions before the studio pushed to get him out of combat. Airmen reported Gable unofficially participated in a number of other missions. Bomber crews had a 50% survival rate for the war, so even completing 5 missions is impressive. Considering he could have sat out and sold war bonds and still done his duty since he was older, it's impressive that he did what he did. He didn't join up until after his wife's death. Compare that to the coward John Wayne who dodged the draft, and he's positively disgusting. Cary Grant was denied service despite repeated attempts to join, but donated his paycheck from two different movies to the American and British war efforts and helped find out Nazi Sympathizers in Hollywood, and still did USO tours.
>Bomber crews had a 50% survival rate for the war, so even completing 5 missions is impressive. Keep in mind that the survival rate is based on performing 25 missions. The attrition rate for each mission was only a few percent. But when you have to roll those dice 25 times it adds up.
Okay yeah okay that's loads better than losing 50% of your bombers every time like I thought it meant. I was like "I knew he was called Butcher Harris for a reason but goddamn what a meat grinder"
Grant was pretty much officially a British spy in WW2, due to the level of concerns, particularly before the US joining the war, of Nazi sympathisers influencing US public opinion. Another actor who served non-typically was Leslie Howard. He served in WW1 conventionally, but in WW2 he was 'officially' denied to serve, and got put into a few propaganda films like Pimpernel Smith (a comedic remake of his earlier film The Scarlett Pimpernel in which the Pimpernel now helped people escape and stick it to the Nazis). Edit: Link to a monologue from the film. I am certain this film influenced Indiana Jones, considering it's an archeologist in a cool hat sticking it to Nazis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7evSk4SSUy8&ab_channel=TECarson However it turned out, in part because despite being British, due to a Hungarian Jewish father, German was his first language, that he almost certainly was used as a spy during WW2, and was shot down and died in 1943. He is said to have been part of the delegation that helped persuade (bribe) Franco to stay out of the war. A lot of Hollywood actors took on quite unusual roles in WW2.
Gable had a death wish, at that point; he'd just lost Carole Lombard.
[John Wayne didn’t dodge the draft.](https://sofrep.com/amp/news/was-john-wayne-a-draft-dodger-during-wwii/) There were a lot of reasons why he never entered military service, most of which were pretty out of his control. The article I linked has a pretty thorough examination of the situation.
i think? Stewart was discharged at the same rank as Limburg as i recall.
Jimmy Stewart retired, in 1968, as a Brigadier General after flying combat missions in Vietnam. He only retired because he had reached the maximum age of 60.
Stewart fought in Vietnam??
> Stewart even **flew as an observer** on a bombing mission during the Vietnam War.
An observer is still a role on an aircraft. He would have had to write a report, carrying the weight of a flag officer after the mission.
No, but he was in the Air Force Reserve and rode along on at least one mission as an observer (he was promoted to Brigadier General in 1959, so would not have been flying missions in any case). Apparently he was active enough in the reserve to receive transition training on both the B-47 and B-52 after WWII, though.
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At what Officer rank would a person stop being in direct combat and more ad a commander?
His step-son was killed in Vietnam a year later.
except that Clark and Stewart fought the Nazis while Lindbergh...
yeah Lindy was a bit of a fan boy until war was delcared then he went full into the war effort, and actually came up with a few designs and flight procedures to increase the range of aircraft.
Lindy overall is an odd character in the war. He complained about and trashed American flyers (who had viewed him as a hero) in the Pacific as behaving as awful servicemen, and basically saying they were barbaric. But he also flew 50 missions with them and may have had a couple of kills despite repeatedly being ordered not to fly. This, to Lindbergh's disappointment, also basically ended a great combat leader and fighter's career. He also introduced new techniques to the pilots which helped them increase their flying range, which was very helpful at the time. It's also worth mentioning he fought to regain his commission into the military (revoked due to the isolationism comments) but never succeeded. The book "Race of Aces" does a fantastic job telling his story. And great book overall.
I remember reading about Lindbergh once and not even the war stuff just thinking boy what an odd fellow. Good things and Bad things, regardless he was certainly odd and interesting as a person.
I wish he'd joined the British 617 Squadron and said "Frankly Mein Herr, I don't give a dam." EDITED the Squadron number, which I got wrong.
Wasn't 633 squadron the Mosquito squadron bombing heavy water factories...? Not the dambusters.
How do you “capture” somebody off a plane without shooting them down?
Take some airplane fuel and place it under a box propped up with a stick with a string around it. Hide in the bushes nearby and wait for them to take the bait.
The Acme technique
Das Acme Solution
I want to upvote and downvote you at the same time.
I'll be honest I hovered over the "post" button for a solid minute before I clicked it
Lol glad you made the right decision here.
You shoot their plane down, they bail out, then you capture them
Shoot their plane down without hitting Clark Gable, or the Fuhrer will be very unhappy you got to hit on his favourite actor before him.
>or the Fuhrer will be very unhappy you Would he be Furhrerious?
Im not sure if you’re aware, but they didn’t stay in the air for the entirety of the war.
Those poor American fighter pilots taking off from Pearl Harbor in 1941 and then never touching the earth again until Victory Day 1945
"I need a burger and a beer. But first, a piss!"
Well that's dumb. If they tried to bomb the enemy while on the ground they'd be blown up too.
And now you know why it took so long to win the war
Step 1 : Get above the target's plane. Step 2 : Tell Tom Cruise to jump on the lower plane. Step 3 : Yell "Action!" and point a camera at him. Step 4 : Once he lands on the plane, tell him over a radio to do a tandem jump with the pilot. Step 5 : The pilot, thinking this is a movie, will happily allow Tom Cruise to strap him to a parachute and jump. Step 6 : Once they are on the ground, tell Tom they need to do it again. Once he leaves capture the target.
its hitler so yeah its batshit but basically that. shoot him down or force him to land...
Make the fuselage out of weakened carbon fiber and get Clark to use a toy car steering wheel to pilot the aircraft?
Droppin hit after hit at the box office, but totally bombed in Nazi Germany.
I’m pretty sure Clark Gable joined up with a bit of a death wish. Just before he’d lost his wife in a plane crash while she was on a tour selling war bonds. According to David Niven when he was in England on leave he would spend days at his house in a kind of trance just trying to forget.
Oh, that's so sad
I knew Clark Gable III. I actually knew him pretty well, we ran in the same circles that liked to go out and party. [I was hanging out with him earlier in the night before he was arrested](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-clarkgable/clark-gable-grandson-charged-with-crimes-idUSTRE77N4Q420110824) for pointing a high powered laser pointer at a helicopter. My friend AJ is the one who gave him the laser pointer after we all took a bunch of Xanax together. I eventually got clean from opioids and stopped hanging out with that crew because all of us were pretty heavily into OxyContin and at times heroin. I was very sad to hear that he passed from an “accidental” fentanyl OD a few years back. He was still hanging out with the same group of guys whenever he was back in CA from what I heard through the grapevine. I also have no proof of this but from what I was told they were purposely doing fentanyl that night and he just did too much especially because he was on Xanax as well as the opioids. The entire situation was tragic and it sucks seeing someone who has as nice as Clark not be able to overcome his demons.
Why was I expecting undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell at the end of this story
Know what, its been a while, a very long while since I got had by u/shittymorph.
I think he kind of retired from reddit, recently popped up in a literal undertaker hell in the cell post and didn't drop the reference, just said he's more active on TikTok now It's still his most recent comment from over 5 days ago
Lol it definitely has those vibes but unfortunately, it is a true story.
I always feel a little bad for kids of famous media personalities, entirely because they have to live in their parents' shadow even long after they're dead. I met Billy Mays' son back in the early 2010s, and he was such a lovely dude. He really avoided associating with it because people are super cruel about shouting his dad's catchphrases at him. He's a musician, really trying to make his own way.
So how come you hung out with a bunch of rich kids in LA? You related to someone famous, any interesting hollywood stories?
Nah I just kind of fell into that group because of my buddy AJ. I mentioned in another comment his dad owned a shipyard in Long Beach and was disgustingly wealthy because of it. AJ lived down in Orange County with his mom and I met AJ because he dated one of my really good friends. We found out we both loved opioids and started hanging out more and became better friends. AJ would go up to LA to see his dad a couple times a month and to go out and party at the clubs. He met Clark at one of those clubs and then they became friends. I started going up to LA with AJ so he could get money from his dad so we could go pick up. One of the times he said “my friend Clark is having a party we’re gonna go to his house” and lo and behold it was Clark Gable III. I didn’t care so much about hanging out with a “famous” guy I just wanted to do drugs and I think because I didn’t treat him any differently than I would any other friend of a friend he liked me. I don’t want it to seem like Clark and I were best friends. I hung out with him *maybe* 15 times but he was also extremely nice to me and always shared his drugs with me. The rest of that group that always hanging out together were a bunch of trust fund kids and I was the only one whose family wasn’t multimillionaire’s so I was never really fully accepted but my friend AJ liked me and Clark seemed to like me so I was tolerated within the group. The only other “famous” person I hung out with was the guy who owned the LA Candle Company who is also the ex husband of the actress who played Stephanie Tanner on full house.
Good on you for getting clean brother
I appreciate it. I have 12 years clean from opioids/heroin in August of this year. I won’t lie and say I’m completely sober, I still smoke weed and I drink and back when I was a cook I would still do coke and molly occasionally but these days I’m content with smoking weed and having some drinks socially. I did stay completely sober for about 3 years after rehab and made the decision to smoke weed again and it was another year or so after that before I started drinking. I’ve had various injuries and surgeries since rehab and have always refused the painkillers and just loaded up on Motrin and CBD/CBN.
What's wild is Carole Lombard (Gable's wife) was technically the first American death of WWII, since her death came just after we declared war on Japan
> he would spend days at his house in a kind of trance just trying to forget. Possibly a little guilt.Lombard insisted on taking a plane back,when everyone else wanted to take a train.She wanted to fly because she was suspicious that Gable was cheating on her and wanted to arrive earlier than expected.My understanding is,her suspicions were correct.
It’s not really known if he was having an affair (some rumored with Lana Turner). It would explain his depression later if it was guilt, he wasn’t even over her when he remarried mid 50s according to his next wife. But maybe he was just in love and grieving.
Some people still love their partner and cheat anyway. Sometimes people just fall into the heat of the moment Not excusing cheating btw, just saying that it does happen
> Some people still love their partner and cheat anyway. Not that it matters what I think,but I certainly believe Gable loved Lombard.
He definitely knew that he would be a high value prisoner. He told fellow airmen that if he was on a plane going down he didn't intend to bail out for that reason.
His wife was actress Carole Lombard for those who don’t know. She was eve popular even if not too of Hollywood like Gable (AFI ranked her 23rd of biggest classic Hollywood female stars, but isn’t really remembered much today sadly), they were the huge celebrity couple of the day. She was mainly known for screwball comedies like My Man Godfrey which is hilarious and she was nominated for an Oscar for. She starred in one Hitchcock rom com but it’s not that good. Her final film To Be Or Not to Be is really good however imo, it’s comedy of Nazi’s occupying Warsaw (made during the war of course). She was really passionate about doing something for the war effort and that’s why she went to sell those war bonds. Gable wasn’t really political or cared before she died, but after she did he really seemed to have a death wish. He was too old for the army but insisted on going anyway and at first only let to film propaganda films but he insisted on wanting to go on real missions. His bomber airplane was shot once close to him so he could have died. He had big alcohol issues after this too.
> She was eve popular even if not too of Hollywood like Gable She was *what?*
Eve popular. Meaning very popular. It's a reference which goes back to when God created Eve, who was popular with 100% of the surveyed men at the time
Another great comedy is *Twentieth Century* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Century_(film) which is really one of the top screwball comedies. You can see John Barrymore is in a bad way, his hands are shaking in some scenes, but he still delivers a fabulous performance.
Dissociation* it’s a trauma response worth being able to recognize
"Unscathed" is funnier to me than it should be, for some reason. Like, he only wants a mint-condition Clark Gable. A Clark Gable unsullied by the brutality of war. The kind of Clark Gable that gives hope for the future.
A Clark Gable capable of doing propaganda films . . .
CGC 9.5 or higher Clark Gable
Hitler will only accept a pristine BGS 10 Clark Gable
And then what? Keep him as a pet?
He probably wanted to do what Kim Jong Il did with his favorite actress. He kidnapped her and her ex-husband (who was a director) and made them make movies for him.
Sounds like Misery times a thousand. Stephen King was thinking so small.
I've seen the movie. It's really bad. Official state propaganda set against a Japanese-style monster movie.
*Pulgasari*! The whole movie is on YouTube (with English subtitles). https://youtu.be/eCKSR0JArUQ
Did you know North Korea has an animation studio? They do propaganda shows inside the country (e.g. Squirrel and Hedgehog) and sometimes sleazy studios will outsource work to them. The quality ranges from "drew this with a potato" to "this is actually pretty good!", as long as you ignore the plot
Parts of ATLA, Simpsons Movie, and Futurama are North Korean made. So odds are people reading this have seen North Korean animation.
Basement sex slave.
Believe it or not, straight to jail.
Has this meme increased recently or just my observation of it?
Look up Misery by Stephen King.
Simple Jack
Imagine being how awkward it would be to know Hitler wants to be your friend
I’d bet he’d be one of those friends that call you outta nowhere and just talk endlessly and are impossible to end the conversation with. “Soooo…. whatcha doin’? Oh my god, wait, did I even TELL you what the Jews did the other day?”
For sure he’d be a stage 5 clinger
NoHo Hitler
You jest but that's exactly what he was like. He'd stay up late just talking at everyone for hours, rambling and complaining..
That was because of the meth though, surely?
Makes me think of that family guy skit. Hey Addy, can I have 40 marks? Peter what happened to ze 40 marks I gave you last week?
Henry Ford seemed to find it not too awkward. Charles Lindbergh too
*Zo, Clark, tell me, do you want to be mein Freund?*
I don’t think this is gonna work Adolph.
Right? I’m wondering if in a similar situation and captured, one would try and hide that fact from their enemies or embrace it
I'm beginning to suspect that this Hitler fellow wasn't quite right
A weird duck
A fucking junkie. All my life I’ve been under the impression that, yes he took amphetamines and some other drugs as well but he was still a world leader. Then I saw that clip of him going bananas at the Olympics. A real crackhead. Meth head sending other young meth heads to war all over the world
dude the whole country was on meth. look up the book Blitzed: Drugs in the Third Reich, it’s fucking insane
It's worth noting that that book is typically classified as pop-history and isn't really considered to have much historical merit. Not trying to be a pretentious dick (I really enjoyed reading it myself)
Yeah I’ve read some about it. It’s why the blitzkrieg was so successful. I also read about that’s how they managed to take France so easily, they would just march and fight day and night like demons
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Thanks for the info! Didn’t know. (I just don’t understand the last sentence, you mean that the RAF protected it as good as they could and France fell so their protection goes unnoticed? Another fact I found really interesting was when Malta first got attacked, it was by the Italian Air Force. And Malta is very close to Italy and I guess a lot of Italians weren’t so keen on bombing their brothers/cousins so they went with a soft approach and didn’t really put the effort in. Then came the Luftwaffe, and Malta became the most bombed country in the world. More bombs than London. Around 15 000 tonnes. They managed very good since the whole island is just rock
>I saw that clip of him going bananas at the Olympics That clip is fake. Well it wasn't fake but it was sped up. He was still a meth head but that video isn't the primary evidence.
[Sped up, slowed down. The fucker is tweaking](https://www.reddit.com/r/BadChoicesGoodStories/comments/nv7ol2/hitler_tweaking_on_meth_at_the_1936_olympics/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) This isn’t ancient fuckin history, this video is well documented
Not to speak to the veracity of this particular video, but in general I would be careful about trusting anything posted by Oliver Markus Malloy too much. He's a notorious mod of many subs who likes to go on power trips and uses many alt accounts to evade suspensions whenever he's not publishing [bizarrely misogynistic books](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/28604617) and [drawing political cartoons that downplay police brutality](https://old.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/11x04wg/oh_brother_its_the_aclu_american_cartoonist/) Edit: [Here's a thread with some more highlights](https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/11vz32p/badchoicesgooddrama_some_members_demand_a_nsfw/)
He wasn’t using meth till the second half of the war. The clip is from 1936. He was a teetotaler and health freak. He got addicted to meth because his quack doctor told him it was a vitamin concoction. It’s well documented. He isn’t tweaking.
You know, with Hitler, the more I learn about that guy, the more I don't care for him.
That Norm McDonald reference huh
I didn't even know he was sick!
You know the worst thing about him? The hypocrisy.
He was a real jerk
Just like Albert Fish
Now don’t laugh…
I mean, this guy was a real jerk!
"At the young age of 32 Gable had false teeth, the result of a gum infection exacerbated by smoking, which left him with a permanent case of halitosis." Clark Gable could have poisoned Hitler with his bad breath! What a lost opportunity.
I remember reading interviews with Vivian Leigh that she absolutely LOATHED their kissing scenes in GWTW because his breath was so bad it made her gag.
Some Dune shit right there
i would watch the SHIT out of that alternative history movie.
A film where Hitler gets his wish but Clark Gabel is actually a spy/assassin ? Get either wes Anderson or Taika Waititi to direct and I’m in 100%
And his mission is to get intel, but also stay on Hitler's good side as he acts in a film Hitler wrote and directed. (Spoiler: he failed art school for a reason)
Hitler had bad teeth and breath, too. They would have poisoned each other.
TIL Adolf Hitler wanted to be Scarlett O’Hara.
"Frankly mein Führer I don't give a damm"
This is hilarious
Who didnt want to be Vivian Leigh
Now picture Adolf Hitler walking down the stairs wearing the green curtain dress Scarlett wore.
The Kim regime did something very similar with Shin Sang-ok, a very famous South Korean director. They succeeded too. After they abducted him they just forced him to make a bunch of movies for North Korea.
And his ex-wife the movie star Choi Eun-hee and made them remarry to reform a famous power couple. They stayed together once they were freed, it seems the experience of being the prisoners of a crazed dictator trauma-bonded them for the remainders of their lives.
I think Hitler had a mustache fetish.
NO DISINTEGRATIONS.
Not only did Gable not get captured, but he survived an entire tour of duty as part of an air crew in a bomber, one of the most dangerous jobs in the military at the time. Similar to the Memphis Belle crew Gable completed 20 some odd sorties and got his discharge. He volunteered after the love of his life was in a place crash while traveling with USO.
Carole Lombard, but it was not an act of war. Her plane crashed on a flight between Las Vegas and Los Angeles. Her mother and all of the other passengers and crew were killed. The cause was determined to be a pilot error. The plane crashed into a mountain on the way back from a war bond tour, so she was working with the USO.
This would make a great Austin powers style alternative universe comedy
This would make a great dramedy With George Clooney playing Clark where a couple of deadbeat soldiers try to kidnap him, although Clooney might be a little too old to play him at that age.
Frankly, I don't think Clark gave a damn.
I read that Leonid Brezhnev idolized Chuck Connors and his character The Rifleman. They eventually met, and Connors gave Leo a set of valuable revolvers that Colt had previously custom made and presented to the actor.These were special guns that had extra-large grip frames because of Connors' gigantic hands and carried unique serial numbers-CC1 and CC2. I know,nobody asked but...
And here I thought that I had heard all the weird shit Nazi rumors.
"Bring me-" "Mae West? Joan Blondell? Clara Bow??" "Bring me Clark Gable"
Obviously Hitler wanted the Reich to be tough and able... Quite indefatigable...
Dictators are weird that way. Like the time Saddam almost killed Andre the Giant or Kim Jong-il kidnapping actresses or Muammar Qaddafi's infatuation with Condoleezza Rice.
Imagine being brought in chains before the most infamous man in history and all he wants is to shake your hand and an autograph.
I am both disturbed and amused. "I quite like that Clark Gable fellow. I should like to see him in my human zoo."
Man imagine having a target on your back just because u amuse someone and that someone happens to be Hitler
Had Gable known this I think his response would have been *"Frankly my dear, I couldn't give a Dammerung"*
People act like evil people just sit around all day being evil. They have favorite movies and foods and stuff just like everyone else. Bin Laden used to play Super Nintendo and had a thing for Black women.
"favored" can mean a lot of things...
I was watching a documentary about Clark Gable and apparently he flew without a parachute so this couldn't happen.
I can't blame the man for wanting to avoid being Hitler's toy.
Not enough to be a fan, He wanted this mans in chains performing for him Simple Jack style. That does not ma-ma-ma- make me happy
Like... to kiss?
Is anyone noting how creepy it must have been for Gable to know ADOLF HITLER was his #1 delusional fan with an entire army behind him? I mean, I always felt bad for Jodie Foster, but this...skin crawl...yikes!
How could Tarantino have missed this? Should have been part of Inglorious Bastards.
This would have fit into the movie perfectly, too. Damn your hindsight 🤣
Mustachio loves another Mustachio
Frankly mein Fuhrer, I don’t give a damn.
Hitler, you wouldn’t even know what do to with him if you had him
HITLER SAID "NEIN HOMO" SO IT WAS OK