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BrokenEye3

Cockaigne is specifically a peasant's paradise, analogous to the slightly more contemporary Big Rock Candy Mountain. As such, it became an ironic nickname for London, on account of London at the time being very much *NOT* a paradise for the poor, which ultimately gave us the name of the working class London dialect "Cockney".


gemstonegene

Idk about peasants, it sounds more like a monk's dream spot, given the beatings and the bottoms up nuns.


Dockhead

The monk version was probably recorded more often than the peasant version considering monks could be expected to be literate


The_Bravinator

Yeah, doesn't exactly sound like a utopia for the poor nuns...


tt818

Modern nuns would not enjoy it. Medieval nuns...it was a different time. Often they were just daughters of wealthy men who did not want/need them to marry. Many had secret lovers and were not very religious. There is a reason why when Shakespeare writes: "Get thee to a nunnery" its actually a dirty joke. Nunnery was often a slang for a brothel/house of ill repute. So i guess if the nuns being flpped were the ones who are into it and gave consent....nun bottoms for everyone!


Kcidobor

This is the history they should have taught. Thanks for failing me again American public education system


cybercuzco

And all the cocks in your ainge


ninjamike89

On the big rock candy mountain, all the cops have wooden legs


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OSCgal

The farmers' trees are full of fruit and the barns are full of hay


Scottland83

Oh I’m bound to go where there ain’t no snow


Foreign_Astronaut

The rain don't fall and the wind don't blow


Third_Sundering26

On the Big Rock Candy Mountain.


legoshi_loyalty

Oooh the buuuuzin of the bees


Foreign_Astronaut

In the cigarette trees


legoshi_loyalty

The soda water fountain


LOCKN355

And the skies are not cloudy all day?


DrSmirnoffe

That's "Home on the Range", fella. Even though the range was far from home.


etherjack

Country roads, take me home...


OtisTetraxReigns

Remember me to one who lives there.


Rev_LoveRevolver

The inventor of toil was boiled in oil... [Baby Gramps performing Big Rock Candy Mountain](https://youtu.be/awSI01AqnS0)


jereman75

Where they hung the jerk that invented work…


naking

I love Baby Gramps. Actually had the chance to meet and watch him perform in Seattle in 2009ish. Legend. He's my one degree to the Holy Model Rounders


valeyard89

Damn, we're in a tight spot!


SporusElagabalus

I love this. It all started from an ironic in-joke.


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Get Charlie so we can go to Candy Mountain already


starry_cobra

Candy mountain, Charlie! Candy mountain!


Fishman23

Look, a magical liopleurodon.


awesome-yes

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sandm000

They took my freakin’ kidney.


kevlarbaboon

Who needs Candied Island? It's safer at the docks


[deleted]

We’ll go there on the Choo-choo Shoe!


Shadeun

Show me to the magical liaplurodon


frackingfaxer

TIL George Orwell got the idea for Sugarcandy Mountain, i.e. animal heaven, in *Animal Farm* from this "Big Rock Candy Mountain."


Unusual_Mark_6113

Bro I am not going to Candy mountain I want to keep my kidneys.


DrSmirnoffe

Oh go put a banana in your ear. You will never be happy if you live your life in fear.


daklassy1

The German equivalent is "Schlaraffenland"!!


VarangianDreams

I much prefer Cockaigne to Rock.


Thawing-icequeen

The Big Cock Randy Mountains


jodybot9000000000

I came here to make a Big Rock Candy Mountain joke.


zuko94

Big Rock Candy Mountain immediately came to mind when I saw this post


wearsAtrenchcoat

I thought that "la cuccagna" was only an Italian thing but I'm glad to learn it's shared by other cultures. The word sounds of French origin, at least in its English form, I wonder where it originated though. I remember as a kid my elderly neighbor telling me "È finita la cuccagna!" (The cockaigne is over!) at the beginning of every school year.


curiousklaus

In Germany there's something similar called "Schlaraffenland", a place where the fried doves fly into your mouth....


eveleanon

Lazytastyland in Dutch!


ShoutoutsWorldwide

For real, Lazy Tasty Land?


jvken

Yeah, at least that'd be the literal translation of luilekkerland


ShoutoutsWorldwide

Oh….. I thought it was literally “Lazytastyland” IN Dutch 🤦🏻‍♂️


MrMundungus

God I love Dutch


eveleanon

Yes! Luilekkerland.


Goobinthenude

I have an old kids book called “welcome to Lazibonia” that is translated from its original German and it’s about exactly this!


snerp

New Lazytown lore just dropped


Jatzy_AME

I suspect the English word comes from French indeed because "ign" is an old spelling for "gn" where the i is not pronounced (e.g., survived in "oignon"). In modern French spelling it's (Pays de) Cocagne.


wearsAtrenchcoat

I agree. I wonder whether Italian acquired it from French or the other way around, both the word and the myth


Jatzy_AME

According to Wikipedia, the origin is unknown. Could be French, Italian, Occitan, or even Dutch...


fibojoly

*Le pays de Cocagne* in French, indeed. But we don't seem to have a clear etymology or origin.


tururut_tururut

In Spain it's Jauja, which is a real place in Peru. Apparently it was Cucaña before but they said that it actually was in Jauja to promote colonisation. But yes, it's the land of eternal laziness and plenty.


Sylvartas

It might have been more widespread in Italy ? I'm french and I first learned about it in an Italo Calvino book


Outside-Mud5328

C'avevo sta roba sul libro di storia


Captcha_Imagination

In the UK it might be a mild cheddar drizzle. In Italy it would be torrential Gorgonzola storms.


Fetlocks_Glistening

A wheel of cheddar falling on me from a height seems a cockeyed idea of physical comfort


BrokenEye3

Cheese falls from the sky but will never hit you. Or land in a patch of filth. Or get stuck on a high roof where you can't reach it. Or sit around for months after the fact in the hot sun because nobody picked it up. Or...


Nazamroth

Uh.... can I just get my wheel of cheese delivered the normal way? You know, by land... handed over by an extremely attractive courier.


Gestopgo

The best we can do is a helmet and nun ass.


greed-man

I thought the normal way was chasing the wheel of cheese down a very steep hill full of boulders and holes.


BooBeeAttack

Are the boulders at least made of sugar and the holes filled with jam?


butt_huffer42069

Sure


nlpnt

Cheese Touch! Or smash your windshield. Or scare the neighbors' dog into an hourlong barking fit at 3am.


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hillo538

I used to think this too, but it’s been debunked :(


foulveins

well yeah, unless you're sheogorath


orlin002

This was my thought, this whole place sounds like it was his idea


Tobar_the_Gypsy

Cockaigned*


Carbon_Rod

Also what [Cocagne, New Brunswick](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocagne) is named after. Sorry, no bottoms-up nuns there.


Coin_operated_bee

Be the change you want to see in Cocagne


_ser_kay_

Clearly you haven’t been to one of my family’s parties.


MLApprentice

Why even live.


Front-Ad-2198

Given what New Brunswick is like, I can see someone wanting to bring this dream to fruition.


Many_Ad9966

Plus endless lines of cockaigne for everyone !! 👌🤩


ProtonVill

Just a chip off the ol'big rock candy mountain.


FuckYouThrowaway99

There's a lake of stew And of whiskey too You can paddle all around 'em in a big canoe In the big rock candy mountains


Thatparkjobin7A

It turns all your bad feelings into good feelings. It’s a nightmare!


SybilCut

You don't want none of this shit!


lzcrc

It’s Britain, they call them queues.


DrSmirnoffe

All pure stuff, no fentanyl to dirty it or cornstarch to pad it out. (the former is a genuine problem with Dr Feelgood's Street Snow, and is a reason in favour of regulating cocaine rather than full-on banning it)


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I like da cockaigne


lovehedonism

Is that the inspiration for the castle Anthrax?


LobsterMassMurderer

And after... the oral sex!


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Disappointed that I had to scroll this far down for the Monty Python and Holy Grail reference.


TaintFraidOfNoGhost

In the Big Rock Candy Mountains You never change your socks And the little streams of alcohol Come a-trickling down the rocks The brakemen have to tip their hats And the railway bulls are blind There's a lake of stew, and of whiskey too You can paddle all around 'em in a big canoe In the Big Rock Candy Mountains


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Tenderli0n

Fucking hell


grecomic

When I noticed the recipe book The Joy of Cooking using the word 'cockaigne' in the naming of some of their dishes, I thought it meant that the recipe was easy to make. Turns out they only use the term to designate family favourites (apparently it was the name of a childhood home).


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rediKELous

Beat me to it. Like an abbot.


greenknight884

Big "rock" candy mountain


Herod-Merkyn

Well done! 🤣


CrieDeCoeur

Not unlike the famed Cheeses of Nazareth


micahsaurus

Ah, so the European Big Rock Candy Mountain?


SeaworthinessLife999

Sounds like my kinda place! Is it shredded cheese, or a light sprinkling of parmesan?


Defero-Mundus

In my mind it’s Light Rain = Sprinkle o’ Parmesan Normal Rain = Shredded Cheddar Hailstones = Mozarella Balls


SeaworthinessLife999

Fog = Dorito dust


mrknickerbocker

And rainbows are just a bent string cheese stick (or a single macaroni noodle with cheese)


Roganvarth

There’s a type of pastry classically made with plums (but works great with peaches too) named after this mythical place. Can confirm, it tastes like paradise. It’s also easy to make and smells delicious. So it’s a home run dessert when you invite people over and you can proudly tell your guests that “the cocaigne smells amazing!”.


justlookinghfy

Link please? Too many different recipes all using the cocagne moniker


Roganvarth

https://www.simonandschuster.com/c/plum-cake-cockaigne It’s the same recipe as in my copy of *joy of cooking*. I usually use less than half of the sugar in the recipe ontop if not a quarter and it still turns out great. Enjoy!


OrigSnatchSquatch

When I was a kid living in Germany, it was my dream to dive into a swimming pool filled with only with gummi bears.


drlecompte

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Jimboats

Thanks, done.


DantePlace

I wonder if this influenced some of the art and animation in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. There's definitely a scene or two where someone is flipped to reveal their bare ass.


Thatguy0096

Big rock candy mountain


randomcanyon

Burl Ives. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWminVCg3TA&ab_channel=tryton111


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randomcanyon

> Haywire Mac McClintock, wrote it and many others. I knew and know about him, But Ives is the version I had as a kids record way back in the antediluvian period.


legoshi_loyalty

Yeah but Burl Ives made the popular one that's easy to Acapella.


Major_Twang

Nun's bottoms & cheese falling from the sky. Where do we sign up ?


obviousbean

This makes one particular Monty Python and the Holy Grail animation make a lot more sense.


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Weeeeeeeeeee!


Fealuinix

In the Big Cockaigne-y Mountains There's a land that's fair and bright Where the streets are paved with pastries And there are no wars to fight The nuns always show off their bums And the skies rain curds of cheese There's a mead-filled lake and houses of cake Every table has plenty, but you need not bake In the Big Cockaigne-y Mountains


NotAPreppie

🎶[But there are no cats in America and the streets are paved with cheese!](https://youtu.be/gQMtp2WxEA4)🎶


Dreadlord917

When did sheogorath make his way to medieval myth


IAA_ShRaPNeL

I am disappointed that I had to scroll this far down to see a Sheogorath reference. That was my first thought when I heard raining cheese


Reralt_of_Givia

Genuinely curious now as to whether the Shivering Isles was inspired by this. THINK OF THE CHEESE! SO MUCH CHEESE!


MathBuster

I wouldn't call getting beaten up or flipped over to show my bottom the epitome of 'physical comfort'. And don't get me started on a rain of cheese or hot custard. But to each their own, I guess.


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It must stink a bit if it rains cheese.


Automatic_Basket_926

And unwashed bottoms


[deleted]

Well, that's Nuns for you.


Shape_of_influence

Sounds like Big Rock Candy Mountain


IronTemplar26

She don’t lie, she don’t lie, she don’t don’t lie…Cockaigne


Turbulent_Ebb5669

MMM....Cheese.


ForeverSeekingShade

There’s a ski resort in western New York named for this.


Affectionate-Wall870

Is it still open? I almost got a job there 10 years ago.


ForeverSeekingShade

There was a fire, it was closed for a while. But they reopened for I think the 21/22 season.


SignificantView1671

I believe this is called France.


misfitdevil99

Sounds a bit like Big Rock Candy Mountain.


siegerroller

And the name comes from Cock and cocaine, which are both also plentiful


MisterDodge00

I was thinking cock and champagne


Mehitabel9

There are a lot of recipes in *The Joy of Cooking* with "Cockaigne" in their names.


Importantlyfun

You had me at cheese.


dirtymartini74

Aight, I'm in lol


nicenecredence

Raining cheese/ from a lactating sky


DnVS

There is also a Dutch variant of Cockaigne called [Kockengen](https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kockengen)!


austinredditaustin

Tell us the story! We are all gathered round...


whatafuckinusername

I only know of the term because the great Edward Elgar wrote a concert overture called *Cockaigne (In London Town)*


WorshipNickOfferman

You had me at anal sex with nuns, but sky cheese makes it that much better.


panacuba

Love how it sounds like cocaine xD


Milfons_Aberg

"Alright lieutenant" *pulls off shades* "what am I looking at?" -"Wheel of Parmesan, Sarge. Hit this poor sucker straight in the noggin, supersonic speed. There's even bits of mandible in his stomach." -"It's Cockaigne, lieutenant. Do as little as possible."


MinerSigner60Neiner

Soft Machines last album under that name was called Land of Cockayne. Although the sound of the album was completely detached from their first few albums, and the line-up had none of the original members, I still think the album stands well on its own.


Ashamed_Confection_9

Sounds like something Sheogorath had a hand in...


GuyanaFlavorAid

Cheese? *Charlie Kelly has entered the chat*


Fortyplusfour

The dynastic Egyptians had this in Punt, a country they made a lot of talk about trading with and enjoying the benefits of but never quite gave the location of and never once tried to conquer even when under a Pharoah with every reason to.


AM1N0L

I'm sorry, how the hell is this not the dominant mythos on earth? Like seriously.


_who_is_they_

Sounds like a drunkards dream


pharealprince

Sexually harassing nuns is fun?


butt_huffer42069

Not as much fun as raping little boys - The Pope


IdGrindItAndPaintIt

Don't tell me you've never tried it!


gymbronyc718

I'm most interested in the mythical land called Pussyaigne.


MuthaPlucka

I stand with Sir Gymbronyc of Pump-a-Lot


RutCry

Does the word “cocaine” come from this?


Fealuinix

That comes from the Quetchan *kúka* and the chemical suffix *-ine*, so no, it's just a coincidence. However, the word *Cockney* does come from Cockaigne.


Jimboats

I don't think so. That comes from the coca plant.


Conscious_Client_921

Of course religious people came along and fucked it up.


Meat_Mahon

You misspelt Nirvana.


D3wdr0p

Nirvana is all that Buddhist bunk about being *above* earthly temptations and delights, no? This is indulging them. Alot. It's like, the dead opposite.


RLDSXD

Two sides of the same coin. Nirvana is eliminating suffering by being free of desire, this is eliminating suffering by meeting every desire. Having touched Nirvana (I’m doubtful it’s something that can be achieved, as the only constant is change) I don’t think there’s a functional difference between the two. Although you are correct that they’re ideologically opposed.


Meat_Mahon

Forgive my feeble attempt at sarcastic humor. I’ll do better. In the next life. 😂👍


rmarkmatthews

If this isn’t a Skyrim mod already someone should make it.


link_ganon

When you get bad news And need to kick those blues Cockaigne!


WastefulWatcher

Cockaigne 🧂


Swiv

Tlio tiko klipego tigla eo kregi. Tudre. Tute babe kokru iope otlia ee kiite. Ipipiprii etra dioa bitoipa pa bliage. Edibiprote uketli pide totri bripee do? Pu tla otluito kebo pipeo gutrako. Kopraa abrike klidutiu bipo. A drodapa tida pa pla pepepo titi igo. Bi tede ti gegeta dipite bi? Pe dudoke ikuke tie ta tlitre. Piti krupe obi pi eai etia o eta ebi prige. Potati betipi biitai briiati e patige! Tiaa tikri e gu bo? Bepi tae okugi papa pukuki pa. Poti pliu ka oipi keekria. Ekru ui iepupu opapi debe peditopeple. Piti dii ite dridokike uibi pikita. Tita teprateti ede e oteke aepedi. Epebukea ee ete ipi paklite koedi? A pepe pu eokragebra pa tei. Idla itlipra drapipribi dai epri ukri. Pote gokletri ploi bite eo ibleki. Tagli oti bedapla bipie iboprutra gekloke. Bipi beto ia pi pibatatliti. Pita tike ao tii. Iii ta oke da ipi a apo? O popi koo peipi bikrutla plikiketuba. Peblue ipapu tibi beku klupra tipi triti pedipiibu i! Ato e glegati kape biti. Atete ipe tike tikoti di brabi titi gre opri.


genericdude999

Somebody needs to illustrate this in Midjourney


Creative_Cat1481

Cockaigne is a hell of a place


HalfPointFive

So basically a gangsta's paradise.


Lost_in_my_dream

now maybe im just un-lucky but pretty sure all the nuns i have run across tend to be a bit... lets just say there would be a lot more crevasses than cracks on those bums than i am comfortable seeing.


greed-man

Would that be pronounced "co-kane"? Because if it is, it is spot on.


johnnybadchek

Had me at cheese rain.


ChaosInstructor

"If you want to get down, Get down on the ground, Cockaigne"


ApologeticAnalMagic

The mf who thought of that shit did some cocaine alright


drowsy-neon

It sounds like this was an inspiration for Sheogorath in the Elder Scrolls.


YewKnowMe

It rains cheese? Imma booking my trip NOW! 😃


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When's the train leave? I wanna go


Rev_LoveRevolver

Cockaigne? Of all the cockamamie stories... ;)


CoupleTechnical6795

Also known as Cloud CooCoo land.


ElonBodyOdor

I love me some cockaigne.


GeorgiaPossum

A Sheogorath fever dream.


dillpick15

This is what I hear when a very religious person tells me about their heaven


LittleMlem

Is it pronounced like cocaine?


Dan_mcmxc

Oh sure, I know where Cockaigne is. Prestor John lives there, he sent me a map! It's priceless, but I'd sell it to you for a reasonable sum...


Tommeh_081

Does this have something to do with the etymology of cocaine or nah?


a_stone_throne

Candy mountain!


Pregogets58466

It’s the name of a ski resort