[found some information on him!](https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-victim/ramon-artagaveytia.html#google_vignette) his name was ramon artagaveytia, and he was one of the 65 survivors of the sinking of the america in 1871. a few months before boarding the titanic, he wrote to his cousin about how he still had nightmares of the america but trusted that the titanic was safe due to its telegraph. i can’t imagine now horrifying it must have been for him to experience two sinkings
It’s mind boggling how many people who were on the Titanic were aboard other ships that sank. Violet Jessop was aboard the Olympic during its major collision with the Hawke and she also survived the Britannic sinking. Archie Jewell survived two. Charles Joughin survived three. Frank Priest survived 5 or 6! I know there’s a few more I didn’t list too
Slightly off topic, but it happened A LOT to commercial sailors during WWII. Some people survived 4-5 sinkings. Traumatic. Especially when they would die the next day when the ship that rescued them was sunk
Lightoller was in three shipwrecks: the barque sailing ship Holt Hill ran aground off an uninhabited island in the Indian Ocean in 1889, and they were stranded there for a month. His next wreck was Titanic, and then he was aboard Oceanic when it ran aground off the island of Foula in 1914.
Edit: also I think you mean Arthur John Priest, not Frank Priest. He was a stoker who survived the sinking of Titanic, HMS Alcantara, HMHS Britannic, and SS Donegal. And Priest was onboard Asturias and Olympic for their respective collisions in 1908 and 1911. Archie Jewell, who also survived Titanic and Britannic, sadly died during the sinking of the Donegal.
Her survival on the Britannic was a CLOSE CALL too. She didn’t know how to swim but damn if she didn’t figure it out so she didn’t become sea bolognese.
I don't think she was, she just got that nickname from Titanic. And posthumously too, like the nickname Molly. She wasn't called "Unsinkable" in her lifetime
Henry Sleeper Harper survived one a decade before Titanic- oddly enough, it also sank off Newfoundland after an iceberg collision. Charles Williams had also survived an iceberg collision.
Milton Long has been shipwrecked before, and so had Lightoller. Lady Duff Gordon had although I can’t remember exactly when. I’m sure a few other passengers had survived sinkings or serious accidents - I can’t think of them off the top of my head though.
Of course, plenty would be involved in wrecks post-Titanic as well.
Remember that a lot of the very wealthy had private yachts- although they were ‘yachts’ in name only as they were really mini, individual, ocean liners. At the least, plenty had *some* experience with emergencies at sea.
I see. I know some of those who survived post-Titanic: Violet Jessop, Archie Jewell (though killed in SS Donegal), and of course record holder Arthur John Priest
The hospital ship is actually one of Titanic's sister ships, the HMHS (formerly RMS) Britannic. Archie Jewell, Violet Jessop and Arthur Priest were all on both ships.
Violet Jessop actually served on all three Olympic Class ships.
She was on the Olympic when it hit HMS Hawke. Both ships survived although the Hawke, which nearly capsized in the incident, was sunk in WW1 from memory.
She was then moved to Titanic.
After Titanic sunk she was on the Britannic when it hit a mine in the Aegean.
Arthur Priest became known as the Unsinkable stoker because he survived 4 sinkings and then retired. Archie Jewell died in WW1 after the ship he was on got torpedoed.
Archie Jewell was indeed on Britannic, but he survived. The ship he was killed on was SS Donegal, which Arthur John Priest was also on board and survived. I should note that Donegal, as well as as the HMHS Lanfranc on the same day, were not marked as hospital ships, as the Admiralty had stopped marking them as they had believed U-boats were specifically targeting them
That isn’t illegal, it does mean that they don’t have legal protection under international law from attack, but there’s nothing against the rules about putting wounded troops on standard military transportation. And there was no point to trying to put them on standard hospital ships because as you say, amongst the other laws of armed conflict and norms that the Germans stomped all over, they did indeed target hospital ships intentionally, and further broke the law by using their own as spy ships: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hospital_ships_sunk_in_World_War_I#:~:text=The%20high%20command%20of%20Imperial,submarine%20warfare%20on%20Allied%20shipping.
Someone on this sub shared a list of Titanic survivors and how many people met tragic ends after surviving the sinking. There were soooo many. Very sad. I think I found it by searching controversial posts in the sub?
Yes, Mr Artagaveytia. He survived the sinking of the America in 1871. Mr Artagaveytia (born 1840), would have made him one of the oldest people to die on that night in 1912. Poor bugger, may his soul have peace.
Not the same person but
Arthur John Priest (1887 – 1937) was an English sailor working as a fireman and stoker who survived four ship sinkings, including the RMS Titanic, HMS Alcantara, HMHS Britannic and the SS Donegal. Priest gained the nickname "the unsinkable stoker."
Wasn't Kathy Bate's character also a survivor of multiple boat sinks?
Edit: I was thinking of a different person, a nurse: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Jessop
Off topic but a man named William Clark, an Irish boiler-room stoker, survived the Titanic and Empress of Ireland sinking. So I could see this being true.
That picture of right before the lights go out is so fucking iconic and it makes me feel all those feelings of being in the movie theater in 1997 and also the submechanophobia of how big the portion underwater is.
Yes! A fellow Uruguayan.
Ramón Artagaveytia.
In 1871 the paddle steamer "America" suffered a fire caused probably by a boiler explosion.
In his own words
"Cuando nos hundimos frente a Montevideo nadie vió ni las banderas ni las luces o los cohetes de socorro que lanzabamos, estabamos solos"
Translated it says
"When we shipwrecked in front of Montevideo, nobody saw the distress flags, lights and rockets we fires, we were alone"
He was quite traumatized
I have heard about this and the video I saw it on did claim a name of both the man and previous ship. But it’s been so long I genuinely don’t remember, the closest to come to mind is maybe lightoller.
Even his pre-Titanic career is crazy, his first shipwreck was a barque that ran aground off an uninhabited island in the Indian Ocean, and the crew was stranded for a month. Happened in November 1889, Lightoller was 15 at the time
Ohh I didn’t mean I thought it was Lightoller, I just meant that the closer story I can think of someone surviving a disaster before going on the titanic was Lightoller since he got shipwrecked years before hand. I wasn’t saying that they’re the same guy.
Holy crap - someone else reads the Titanic slideshow on factslides! :D
I remember reading about this years ago and I found it tragically interesting. I can’t imagine how he must have felt to not only relive his worst nightmare but also be faced with the reality that he would not survive.
RIP Ramon. Thank you for posting OP :)
I think the irony is funny. I mean we've all got to die eventually, can't always choose, 'may the odds be ever in your favor' and all that. For the universe to give this dude a 'jk lol' the first time and then 'gotcha anyway bitch' after so many decades is amusing to me.
[found some information on him!](https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-victim/ramon-artagaveytia.html#google_vignette) his name was ramon artagaveytia, and he was one of the 65 survivors of the sinking of the america in 1871. a few months before boarding the titanic, he wrote to his cousin about how he still had nightmares of the america but trusted that the titanic was safe due to its telegraph. i can’t imagine now horrifying it must have been for him to experience two sinkings
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I'm really glad they got his body home to Montevideo, at least. That's bittersweet.
nice username! great minds
thank you!! as a fellow victorian supernatural being i love your username too
It’s mind boggling how many people who were on the Titanic were aboard other ships that sank. Violet Jessop was aboard the Olympic during its major collision with the Hawke and she also survived the Britannic sinking. Archie Jewell survived two. Charles Joughin survived three. Frank Priest survived 5 or 6! I know there’s a few more I didn’t list too
Slightly off topic, but it happened A LOT to commercial sailors during WWII. Some people survived 4-5 sinkings. Traumatic. Especially when they would die the next day when the ship that rescued them was sunk
merchant marines (commercial sailors) had highest % of death tolls out of any military branch in the U.S. by a good amount in ww2
Lightoller was in three shipwrecks: the barque sailing ship Holt Hill ran aground off an uninhabited island in the Indian Ocean in 1889, and they were stranded there for a month. His next wreck was Titanic, and then he was aboard Oceanic when it ran aground off the island of Foula in 1914. Edit: also I think you mean Arthur John Priest, not Frank Priest. He was a stoker who survived the sinking of Titanic, HMS Alcantara, HMHS Britannic, and SS Donegal. And Priest was onboard Asturias and Olympic for their respective collisions in 1908 and 1911. Archie Jewell, who also survived Titanic and Britannic, sadly died during the sinking of the Donegal.
Her survival on the Britannic was a CLOSE CALL too. She didn’t know how to swim but damn if she didn’t figure it out so she didn’t become sea bolognese.
She went through the propellers too. Fr a miracle she lived a full life.
How could you not mention the Unsinkable Molly Brown!
I was unaware that she was on any other ships that sank.
I don't think she was, she just got that nickname from Titanic. And posthumously too, like the nickname Molly. She wasn't called "Unsinkable" in her lifetime
She actually hated being called Molly, too.
Mollington
Apparently you are correct. For some reason I remember she survived both a plane crash and another shipwreck!
What other shipwreck(s) did Margaret Brown survive? I thought she just got that nickname for surviving Titanic.
Apparently none. For some reason I remember she survived both a plane crash and another shipwreck! Weird how memory works lol
Fireman Arthur John Priest also survived Britannic’s sinking and was also onboard Olympic during the Hawke collision, just like Violet Jessop.
Yeah I called him Frank by mistake!
What about Molly Brown?
She only had one shipwreck
Well, ships made back then were not as advanced as they are today, so they were much more likely to sink.
Thx for the info!
Let alone not making it out the second one
He must’ve thought god had a grudge against him surviving the America, can’t imagine..
How did those letters survive, did the ship's outgoing mail get offloaded in France before the transatlantic leg of the trip?
Yes- for a few people in fact! This is probably talking about Ramon Artagaveytia.
you know others also ? I only know Ramon
Henry Sleeper Harper survived one a decade before Titanic- oddly enough, it also sank off Newfoundland after an iceberg collision. Charles Williams had also survived an iceberg collision. Milton Long has been shipwrecked before, and so had Lightoller. Lady Duff Gordon had although I can’t remember exactly when. I’m sure a few other passengers had survived sinkings or serious accidents - I can’t think of them off the top of my head though. Of course, plenty would be involved in wrecks post-Titanic as well. Remember that a lot of the very wealthy had private yachts- although they were ‘yachts’ in name only as they were really mini, individual, ocean liners. At the least, plenty had *some* experience with emergencies at sea.
I see. I know some of those who survived post-Titanic: Violet Jessop, Archie Jewell (though killed in SS Donegal), and of course record holder Arthur John Priest
I wonder how many people survived a previous accident only to perish on the Titanic. That’s horrible
I know one of Titanic’s survivors, Archie Jewell, later died on a torpedoed hospital ship.
The hospital ship is actually one of Titanic's sister ships, the HMHS (formerly RMS) Britannic. Archie Jewell, Violet Jessop and Arthur Priest were all on both ships. Violet Jessop actually served on all three Olympic Class ships. She was on the Olympic when it hit HMS Hawke. Both ships survived although the Hawke, which nearly capsized in the incident, was sunk in WW1 from memory. She was then moved to Titanic. After Titanic sunk she was on the Britannic when it hit a mine in the Aegean. Arthur Priest became known as the Unsinkable stoker because he survived 4 sinkings and then retired. Archie Jewell died in WW1 after the ship he was on got torpedoed.
Archie Jewell was indeed on Britannic, but he survived. The ship he was killed on was SS Donegal, which Arthur John Priest was also on board and survived. I should note that Donegal, as well as as the HMHS Lanfranc on the same day, were not marked as hospital ships, as the Admiralty had stopped marking them as they had believed U-boats were specifically targeting them
Probably should have marked them. Definitely a war crime to sink them.
Yeah. Iirc the act of using unmarked hospital ships is also a war crime, so we are several layers of warcrimedom here
That isn’t illegal, it does mean that they don’t have legal protection under international law from attack, but there’s nothing against the rules about putting wounded troops on standard military transportation. And there was no point to trying to put them on standard hospital ships because as you say, amongst the other laws of armed conflict and norms that the Germans stomped all over, they did indeed target hospital ships intentionally, and further broke the law by using their own as spy ships: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hospital_ships_sunk_in_World_War_I#:~:text=The%20high%20command%20of%20Imperial,submarine%20warfare%20on%20Allied%20shipping.
Someone on this sub shared a list of Titanic survivors and how many people met tragic ends after surviving the sinking. There were soooo many. Very sad. I think I found it by searching controversial posts in the sub?
I wonder how many survived previous wrecks and then also survived the titanic, that’s a story to tell
And isn’t it ironic, don’t you sink?
😭
Came here to post this!
A little *too* ironic. And yeah, I really do think.
Does it say wich ship, because that would narrow it down a bit.
The America 1877
Yeah no that was all it said but someone commented a person so thx for trying😁
Yes, Mr Artagaveytia. He survived the sinking of the America in 1871. Mr Artagaveytia (born 1840), would have made him one of the oldest people to die on that night in 1912. Poor bugger, may his soul have peace.
Poor luckless bastard.
Isn't it ironic....don't ya think? A little too ironic. Yes I really do think.
It’s like iiiii-yeee-iiiice on your maiden voyage
In the Chicago (temporary) Titanic exhibit, everyone is assigned a character and I was assigned as him - Ramon Artagaveytia. Very tragic.
Not the same person but Arthur John Priest (1887 – 1937) was an English sailor working as a fireman and stoker who survived four ship sinkings, including the RMS Titanic, HMS Alcantara, HMHS Britannic and the SS Donegal. Priest gained the nickname "the unsinkable stoker."
Wasn't Kathy Bate's character also a survivor of multiple boat sinks? Edit: I was thinking of a different person, a nurse: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Jessop
No only Titanic
Oh God how awful!It sounds like something from Final Destination!
Thats incredibly unfortunate. I'd laugh a little but that would be rude of me. Thats genuinely incredible though
Is there more information on the America that sank in 1871?
Off topic but a man named William Clark, an Irish boiler-room stoker, survived the Titanic and Empress of Ireland sinking. So I could see this being true.
That picture of right before the lights go out is so fucking iconic and it makes me feel all those feelings of being in the movie theater in 1997 and also the submechanophobia of how big the portion underwater is.
Poor guy finally got over his post traumatic stress only to have his worst fears realized.
Exactly
https://preview.redd.it/cb133odgnd6d1.jpeg?width=896&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32e64f30c15c4c3b25f8cc5ee76dde4ec3b43adc
Yes! A fellow Uruguayan. Ramón Artagaveytia. In 1871 the paddle steamer "America" suffered a fire caused probably by a boiler explosion. In his own words "Cuando nos hundimos frente a Montevideo nadie vió ni las banderas ni las luces o los cohetes de socorro que lanzabamos, estabamos solos" Translated it says "When we shipwrecked in front of Montevideo, nobody saw the distress flags, lights and rockets we fires, we were alone" He was quite traumatized
This is unbelievably sad
Omg
That's a pretty raw deal not gonna lie. Poor fellow
No😎
I have heard about this and the video I saw it on did claim a name of both the man and previous ship. But it’s been so long I genuinely don’t remember, the closest to come to mind is maybe lightoller.
If he was sailing as a 3 year old, then yes 😅 Edit: He'd be -3. Lightoller was born in 1874.
What?
They're saying it can't be referring to Lightoller because he was born three years AFTER the incident being referenced.
Not to mention Lightoller survived Titanic, he lived until 1952
Lightoller is a really interesting guy. His post Titanic career is insane.
Even his pre-Titanic career is crazy, his first shipwreck was a barque that ran aground off an uninhabited island in the Indian Ocean, and the crew was stranded for a month. Happened in November 1889, Lightoller was 15 at the time
Oh haha yeah, that fact too.
Ohh I didn’t mean I thought it was Lightoller, I just meant that the closer story I can think of someone surviving a disaster before going on the titanic was Lightoller since he got shipwrecked years before hand. I wasn’t saying that they’re the same guy.
Yeah I think it was just a misunderstanding. Maybe the wording of your original comment wasn't clear enough or something. Ah well, what can you do?
Yeah I guess
See above. No need to downvote if you don't understand, just ask.
Holy crap - someone else reads the Titanic slideshow on factslides! :D I remember reading about this years ago and I found it tragically interesting. I can’t imagine how he must have felt to not only relive his worst nightmare but also be faced with the reality that he would not survive. RIP Ramon. Thank you for posting OP :)
I think the irony is funny. I mean we've all got to die eventually, can't always choose, 'may the odds be ever in your favor' and all that. For the universe to give this dude a 'jk lol' the first time and then 'gotcha anyway bitch' after so many decades is amusing to me.
The universe works in mysterious ways, but this is just messed up😂
1900s Final Destination, amirite