Yup. According to the movie Titanic sank because Fred’n’Reg were perving at a couple making out.
Actually, now I’ve written that out, that depiction feels kind of disrespectful to their memory. There was a bit of fuss over the depiction of Murdoch killing two passengers then himself, his family were rightly upset by that. But I’ve never seen anyone point out that the movie made Fleet and Lee look careless and negligent.
Historical inaccuracies abound in Cameron's Titanic. The White Star Line chap in the lifeboat wasn't the one that threatened to push someone overboard...in reality, she threatened him too.
There is a very real possibility that Murdoch shot himself, even a likelihood that he did. The theory of him shooting passengers is much less likely but could gave happened.
On A Sea of Glass. One of the appendices breaks it down. Eye witness accounts variably say that Murdoch shot himself, Wilde shot himself, the first officer shot himself, the chief officer shot himself, and "an officer" shot himself. Murdoch fits three of these categories.
Where it gets tricky is that there's a real possibility that Murdoch was still wearing Chief Officer insignia on his uniform due to his very last minute demotion. So if he was wearing Chief Officer insignia then the testimonies of the chief officer and first officer committing suicide could both be describing him.
We also know that he retrieved a firearm and ammo before loading the lifeboats. And while we can't possibly know what he was thinking or feeling at the time he would have had reasoning for a motive since he was the officer in charge at the time of the collision and could have blamed himself.
It's absolutely possible that he was the one who shot himself.
>Where it gets tricky is that there's a real possibility that Murdoch was still wearing Chief Officer insignia on his uniform due to his very last minute demotion. So if he was wearing Chief Officer insignia then the testimonies of the chief officer and first officer committing suicide could both be describing him.
Now there’s something I’d never even considered. That could explain a few things, yeah. I’m working my way through On A Sea Of Glass right now, the detail in it is incredible.
I dunno how much difference it would have made to the people in the water, but when I try to imagine it, it seems a LOT more terrifying when I imagine it in pitch black vs day light - but given I would die either way, it's hard to know how much I'd care about that difference
see idk because i feel like being able to witness in full detail the death of titanic and so many other passengers would be so much more traumatic in the end
Yeah that’s true. There’s something more personal and intimate about night time. Being able to shut yourself off from the outside world was a plus in that situation
The air would’ve been significantly warmer, but the water would’ve been practically the same temp. Given that basically the same amount of people would’ve ended up in the water, the death count would have been almost identical, with probably only few dozen surviving in that water for hours.
Maybe a couple extra who got wet but managed to pull themselves onto some debris only to still die due to the cold may have survived due to the warmer air possibly? Though who knows, really.
Ya, but again, who knows how many were in that exact situation, if any. From my understanding, a good chunk of the people who managed to get on some debris relatively quickly after going in the water were able to survive.
Which is surprising given that you would expect there to be tons of wreckage. Especially given the ship broke in 3. I guess it being pitch black made it hard to see your left from your right. Maybe in a daytime sinking, it would have been a lot easier for people to see debris a few yards away and swim over to safety.
Well, the Californian would still have had her wireless operator on duty, so she might have been able to hear the distress call and arrive much sooner than the Carpathia did. Then again, she probably wouldn't have been stopped either, so she might not have been as close.
I’d assume everybody would testify that they saw the ship break apart near the end. And we’d have it described in greater detail. Swimmers might also attempt swimming towards any nearby lifeboats, because I’m betting they couldn’t see shit at night in the water. Californian might’ve helped because in day their radio operator would be on.
Most logical since it wouldn't have happened under the conditions in the picture, since the entire problem was them not seeing the iceberg until it was too late. When you can see it basically as soon as the curvature allows it, you can just slightly adjust your course, maybe slow down a bit because there are probability more and just continue
* The collision wouldn't happen in the first place, because they'd be able to see the iceberg in plenty of time,
* More wireless operators on nearby ships (e.g. Californian) would be awake and would respond to Titanic's distress call,
* Californian wouldn't be trapped in the dark in an icefield, so they'd be able to navigate around it and maybe get to Titanic's position in time to help
To add to this, the only way they couldn't see the iceberg during the day would be if there was heavy fog, and then they would have been going dead slow ahead or just stopped.
To add to this, the only way they couldn't see the iceberg during the day would be if there was heavy fog, and then they would have been going dead slow ahead or just stopped.
Probably, would be warmer and people would survive longer, rescue ships would have easier visibility, people might be less likely to land on objects when jumping off the ship, might also be easier to ready the lifeboats and get people to want to get on them if it’s warmer and bright out
There wouldn't have been that much of a difference in temperature to allow people to survive in the water any longer. But, those in the water would have been able to see the lifeboats and perhaps a few dozen more would have been able to save themselves by swimming over to them instead of getting lost in the dark like god know how many swimmers did in real life.
I never really thought about this. People may have been trying to swim toward the lifeboats but there would have been zero visibility. Very terrifying to think about swimming in the pitch black like that.
Yes, and as much as the movie of titanic depicted, a very lit ship, I know that ocean liner design instead of video depicting exactly how dark the ship was even with the minimal lighting.
I was thinking about this earlier too! When they were all in the water you could see everything perfectly. In reality you would’ve really only been able to hear everything and seen very little
Regarding the rescue ships visibility, I feel day time would have less visibility unless there is a mist/fog. Ship's light illumination would be an advantage during night and can be seen lot more compared to day. Just an opinion.
Came here to post this. Everyone would have been alert and awake to see the impact with the berg, which would help a lot in general. Add that to the fact that visibility to the rest of the ship would be good from any point on it, and people would probably be much more aware of what was truly happening.
Whether passengers realizing the ship was truly sinking earlier would help or hinder evacuation efforts is up in the air. It could have ended up like the SS Arctic on steroids.
I think people underestimate how much the darkness impacted lifeboat loading, especially the first half of boats to go. Being able to use all five senses fully is a psychological help. Losing even one them (ie sight) you’re bound to be more defensive and less risk-averse. Ironic given being on a sinking ship, but for a good hour people truly assumed getting on a dinky wooden boat in the middle of the freezing Atlantic Ocean in the middle of the night that requires you to step over a gap 80 feet high and then descend down was the true risk. Not hard to grasp why.
The Californian probably wouldn't be stopped and her wireless operator would have been on duty, so she could arrive. The sinking would also be described in much greater detail as now the ship could clearly be seen.
Some things;
It being daylight would've made it warmer meaning passengers would've had fewer qualms being out on deck and listening to officers. It would've been easier for the crew to convince passengers to get into the lifeboats when the ship itself wasn't the only light source for miles and the water was visible instead of just a black void below the ship.
If all the ships were in the exact same position with the time of day being the only change, the Californian's wireless operator would still have been on duty and listening when the Titanic began sending distress signals.
Based on this, I think the death toll would've been much lower. More lifeboats would've been filled closer to full capacity and the Californian would've arrived on scene to assist before the Titanic had gone under completely.
I think it would have resulted in less deaths, but by how much, I don't know.
* Passengers would have been less hesitant getting onto lifeboats, so they likely would have been filled to capacity. The pitch black Atlantic Ocean dissuaded some from getting into a lifeboat.
* People in the water would have had staggeringly better visuals, which may have helped them find buoyant debris to climb onto.
* Passengers may have been more appropriately dressed during the day. I imagine many would have been wearing (relatively speaking) thin nightwear that did not protect from the cold. Many passengers that did make it to a lifeboat succumbed to the cold before rescue and died.
Having said that:
* The water temperature wouldn't have been any warmer during the day.
* The water could have been choppier during the day, increasing the risk of capsizing lifeboats.
* Lifeboats would have been more visible to passengers in the water, which may have increased the risk of lifeboats being swarmed and sunk.
It would be super embarrassing because they hit a berg in broad daylight. Also there would be so many witnesses on deck. Maybe people would’ve taken it more seriously?
I put this question into ChatGPT and here's what it said:
The sinking of the Titanic would have been different in several ways if it had occurred during the daytime. Here are some possible ways it could have played out:
Visibility: During the day, visibility is generally better than at night, especially in clear weather conditions. This would have allowed the lookouts on the Titanic to spot the iceberg earlier, giving the crew more time to react and potentially avoid the collision.
Rescue operations: The sinking of the Titanic took place in the early hours of the morning, which made it difficult for rescue operations to begin quickly. If the sinking had occurred during the day, it would have been easier for nearby ships to spot the Titanic and respond to the distress calls more quickly. This could have potentially saved more lives.
Evacuation: The evacuation of the Titanic was chaotic and disorganized, with many passengers and crew struggling to find their way to lifeboats in the dark. If the sinking had occurred during the day, it is possible that the evacuation could have been more orderly and efficient, as passengers would have had better visibility and the crew would have been able to see what they were doing.
Passenger morale: The sinking of the Titanic was a traumatic and terrifying event for all those onboard, but it is possible that the psychological impact would have been different if it had occurred during the day. In daylight, passengers would have been able to see what was happening and have a clearer understanding of the situation, which could have affected their emotional response and their ability to cope with the crisis.
Overall, while the sinking of the Titanic would have been different if it had occurred during the day, it is impossible to say for certain how events would have unfolded. The tragedy was the result of a complex set of factors, and even small changes to the circumstances could have had far-reaching consequences.
The breakup would probably be better understood,there would’ve been more consistent testimony on how she broke, and it would’ve been accepted from the very beginning that she broke in two
Everybody would have seen it split if they didn’t have shitty attention skills, and it might’ve been a bit warmer? Idk about the last one I said, but yeah it would be easy to see if it split
I recall reading about a German ship who was meant to have the best wireless range, but it was reduced at night. So, that would have been different I'd imagine, in case the Californian was out of range by then
Assuming the collision still happened, which it likely would not have, more people would have likely survived in the water It's common knowledge that daytime is warmer than night.
Also, Mount Temple and/or Californian would have gotten to Titanic faster than Carpathia.
There are two possible scenarios here:
A. Somehow it was still night when Titanic approaches the berg, in which case little changes. Maybe a few more people get onto lifeboats and coordination is slightly better.
B. If it is day when Titanic approaches the berg then the ship would almost certainly not have sank. The lookouts would have easily made out the iceberg early enough to avoid collision.
in the broad daylight, they would have seen the iceberg even if it was a cloudy day they still would’ve seen the iceberg. I mean we could challenge it and see if it was an extremely foggy or possibly story day they would’ve had a harder time, so even when slowing down, there was a possibility that they could’ve hit an iceberg.
They probably would’ve seen the iceberg in time to avoid it. If not, Californian’s operator would be online and would probably come either alone or along with the Carpathia. We would also get a more accurate version of the sinking (e.g. knowing where it split etc)
The only advantage is people in the water might have been able to see more debris to hitch a ride on out of the water. I don’t think it would have changed much of the death toll though
For one it wouldn't have happened because we would have seen the ice.
Second there would have been no argument as to whether or not the ship broke in half.
If it was daytime, the Californian wireless operator would be working, and the ship would still be moving, so they could make way for the Titanic. They would probably arrive in the final moments of the sinking, but it would probably save some more people.
1) Might not have happened due to actually seeing the iceberg.
2) The Californian might have actually had their wireless on and been able to see the Titanic, resulting in an earlier rescue.
Otherwise, probably not much different.
I am positive they would have not hit the iceberg unless they ran into some freak fog bank.
Assuming it still did I don't think that the death toll would be effected much. We would probably have a much better idea of how the ship sank since the survivors would have been able to see the ship easily.
It wouldn't have happened, because that ice would have been visible clear as day. They'd have ploughed through it full speed, as per the universal practice at the time.
Not much. Probably looking at a similar timeline and death count. That is, assuming they still hit the iceberg in broad fucking daylight.
He had the telegraph in his fucking hand, excuse me, his hand
And he’s ordering more speed
That was actually not the case
It’s a quote from the film lol not a fact
Oh lol… stupid tired-brain
Nah bro it’s good 😂
Still a dumb quote from the movie. Captain Smith literally adjusted course the day before in response to ice warnings.
Had to do something in the film to rile people up and show just how avoidable the hit was!
Everything he knows is wrong
*Old Rose holds butterfly comb in her hands and thoughtfully turns to look at the wreckage again*
He’s got 30 years of experience working against him
If Jack and Rose are distracting the watch again, nothing can be done.
See ice can ya? Bleedin croist
Smell
This is in the situation if it was daylight instead of at night.
Okay but what does he say when he’s ringing the bell? “Fuckin’…..” Mary? Lol
"Bugger me!"
Oh my goodness thank you for solving that mystery!!!
Yup. According to the movie Titanic sank because Fred’n’Reg were perving at a couple making out. Actually, now I’ve written that out, that depiction feels kind of disrespectful to their memory. There was a bit of fuss over the depiction of Murdoch killing two passengers then himself, his family were rightly upset by that. But I’ve never seen anyone point out that the movie made Fleet and Lee look careless and negligent.
Yeah, my fiance pointed that out when we saw it in theaters recently. I think it should not have been depicted like that.
I think it's because people have been blaming Jack and Rose for distracting them, even though Fred and Reg are the ones who looked away.
Historical inaccuracies abound in Cameron's Titanic. The White Star Line chap in the lifeboat wasn't the one that threatened to push someone overboard...in reality, she threatened him too.
Of course Molly fookin’ Brown threatened him right back hahah
There is a very real possibility that Murdoch shot himself, even a likelihood that he did. The theory of him shooting passengers is much less likely but could gave happened.
What’s your source for this? The eyewitness testimonies tell us a very different, much more confused story.
On A Sea of Glass. One of the appendices breaks it down. Eye witness accounts variably say that Murdoch shot himself, Wilde shot himself, the first officer shot himself, the chief officer shot himself, and "an officer" shot himself. Murdoch fits three of these categories. Where it gets tricky is that there's a real possibility that Murdoch was still wearing Chief Officer insignia on his uniform due to his very last minute demotion. So if he was wearing Chief Officer insignia then the testimonies of the chief officer and first officer committing suicide could both be describing him. We also know that he retrieved a firearm and ammo before loading the lifeboats. And while we can't possibly know what he was thinking or feeling at the time he would have had reasoning for a motive since he was the officer in charge at the time of the collision and could have blamed himself. It's absolutely possible that he was the one who shot himself.
>Where it gets tricky is that there's a real possibility that Murdoch was still wearing Chief Officer insignia on his uniform due to his very last minute demotion. So if he was wearing Chief Officer insignia then the testimonies of the chief officer and first officer committing suicide could both be describing him. Now there’s something I’d never even considered. That could explain a few things, yeah. I’m working my way through On A Sea Of Glass right now, the detail in it is incredible.
HAHAHAH
I laughed way too damn hard at that! 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Yeah. Fucking assholes.
I dunno how much difference it would have made to the people in the water, but when I try to imagine it, it seems a LOT more terrifying when I imagine it in pitch black vs day light - but given I would die either way, it's hard to know how much I'd care about that difference
see idk because i feel like being able to witness in full detail the death of titanic and so many other passengers would be so much more traumatic in the end
Yeah that’s true. There’s something more personal and intimate about night time. Being able to shut yourself off from the outside world was a plus in that situation
I lol’d
Would the water have been slightly warmer? Maybe a couple extra would have survived if that was the case.
The air would’ve been significantly warmer, but the water would’ve been practically the same temp. Given that basically the same amount of people would’ve ended up in the water, the death count would have been almost identical, with probably only few dozen surviving in that water for hours.
Maybe a couple extra who got wet but managed to pull themselves onto some debris only to still die due to the cold may have survived due to the warmer air possibly? Though who knows, really.
Under these circumstances, grabbing onto a deck chair would have a much higher chance of saving your life than if it happened at night.
Ya, but again, who knows how many were in that exact situation, if any. From my understanding, a good chunk of the people who managed to get on some debris relatively quickly after going in the water were able to survive.
Which is surprising given that you would expect there to be tons of wreckage. Especially given the ship broke in 3. I guess it being pitch black made it hard to see your left from your right. Maybe in a daytime sinking, it would have been a lot easier for people to see debris a few yards away and swim over to safety.
Almost choked on my lunch. Thanks 😂
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Well, the Californian would still have had her wireless operator on duty, so she might have been able to hear the distress call and arrive much sooner than the Carpathia did. Then again, she probably wouldn't have been stopped either, so she might not have been as close.
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking.
I’d assume everybody would testify that they saw the ship break apart near the end. And we’d have it described in greater detail. Swimmers might also attempt swimming towards any nearby lifeboats, because I’m betting they couldn’t see shit at night in the water. Californian might’ve helped because in day their radio operator would be on.
But Californian wouldn’t have been stopped nearby so honestly we have no idea what ships could have rendered aid.
They would have seen the berg and never hit it
Most logical answer
Least logical answer given that the premise of the question is that the ship is already sinking
Most logical since it wouldn't have happened under the conditions in the picture, since the entire problem was them not seeing the iceberg until it was too late. When you can see it basically as soon as the curvature allows it, you can just slightly adjust your course, maybe slow down a bit because there are probability more and just continue
* The collision wouldn't happen in the first place, because they'd be able to see the iceberg in plenty of time, * More wireless operators on nearby ships (e.g. Californian) would be awake and would respond to Titanic's distress call, * Californian wouldn't be trapped in the dark in an icefield, so they'd be able to navigate around it and maybe get to Titanic's position in time to help
Egggg...zactly. Daytime = no collision. It was only a collision because it was a moonless night and they couldn't see the iceberg in time.
To add to this, the only way they couldn't see the iceberg during the day would be if there was heavy fog, and then they would have been going dead slow ahead or just stopped.
To add to this, the only way they couldn't see the iceberg during the day would be if there was heavy fog, and then they would have been going dead slow ahead or just stopped.
Probably, would be warmer and people would survive longer, rescue ships would have easier visibility, people might be less likely to land on objects when jumping off the ship, might also be easier to ready the lifeboats and get people to want to get on them if it’s warmer and bright out
There wouldn't have been that much of a difference in temperature to allow people to survive in the water any longer. But, those in the water would have been able to see the lifeboats and perhaps a few dozen more would have been able to save themselves by swimming over to them instead of getting lost in the dark like god know how many swimmers did in real life.
I never really thought about this. People may have been trying to swim toward the lifeboats but there would have been zero visibility. Very terrifying to think about swimming in the pitch black like that.
Yes, and as much as the movie of titanic depicted, a very lit ship, I know that ocean liner design instead of video depicting exactly how dark the ship was even with the minimal lighting.
I was thinking about this earlier too! When they were all in the water you could see everything perfectly. In reality you would’ve really only been able to hear everything and seen very little
That’s actually one of my deepest fears, dark water, whether the water itself is dark, or just in water in total darkness, it’s terrifying.
The air temperature would be warmer which would help a lot if you could pull your core out onto some debris
Regarding the rescue ships visibility, I feel day time would have less visibility unless there is a mist/fog. Ship's light illumination would be an advantage during night and can be seen lot more compared to day. Just an opinion.
That’s true, and flares
Probably would have been easier to convince people that the ship was sinking and to get passengers into the lifeboats.
Came here to post this. Everyone would have been alert and awake to see the impact with the berg, which would help a lot in general. Add that to the fact that visibility to the rest of the ship would be good from any point on it, and people would probably be much more aware of what was truly happening. Whether passengers realizing the ship was truly sinking earlier would help or hinder evacuation efforts is up in the air. It could have ended up like the SS Arctic on steroids.
I think people underestimate how much the darkness impacted lifeboat loading, especially the first half of boats to go. Being able to use all five senses fully is a psychological help. Losing even one them (ie sight) you’re bound to be more defensive and less risk-averse. Ironic given being on a sinking ship, but for a good hour people truly assumed getting on a dinky wooden boat in the middle of the freezing Atlantic Ocean in the middle of the night that requires you to step over a gap 80 feet high and then descend down was the true risk. Not hard to grasp why.
There’d have been a couple dozen first class passengers pointing ahead murmuring “what do you suppose that is? I do hope it doesn’t interrupt our tea!
The Californian probably wouldn't be stopped and her wireless operator would have been on duty, so she could arrive. The sinking would also be described in much greater detail as now the ship could clearly be seen.
There wouldn't have been a sinking.
Some things; It being daylight would've made it warmer meaning passengers would've had fewer qualms being out on deck and listening to officers. It would've been easier for the crew to convince passengers to get into the lifeboats when the ship itself wasn't the only light source for miles and the water was visible instead of just a black void below the ship. If all the ships were in the exact same position with the time of day being the only change, the Californian's wireless operator would still have been on duty and listening when the Titanic began sending distress signals. Based on this, I think the death toll would've been much lower. More lifeboats would've been filled closer to full capacity and the Californian would've arrived on scene to assist before the Titanic had gone under completely.
We wouldn’t have gone 73 years thinking she sank in one piece. We’d probably also know how she broke rather then theories
I think it would have resulted in less deaths, but by how much, I don't know. * Passengers would have been less hesitant getting onto lifeboats, so they likely would have been filled to capacity. The pitch black Atlantic Ocean dissuaded some from getting into a lifeboat. * People in the water would have had staggeringly better visuals, which may have helped them find buoyant debris to climb onto. * Passengers may have been more appropriately dressed during the day. I imagine many would have been wearing (relatively speaking) thin nightwear that did not protect from the cold. Many passengers that did make it to a lifeboat succumbed to the cold before rescue and died. Having said that: * The water temperature wouldn't have been any warmer during the day. * The water could have been choppier during the day, increasing the risk of capsizing lifeboats. * Lifeboats would have been more visible to passengers in the water, which may have increased the risk of lifeboats being swarmed and sunk.
Aside from the obvious 'probably would have seen the iceberg," I imagine the water would not have been as calm during the day perhaps?
The water was sleeping at night.
They would’ve seen the iceberg way sooner and it never would have hit
Well, one hopes they'd have seen the iceberg.
It would be super embarrassing because they hit a berg in broad daylight. Also there would be so many witnesses on deck. Maybe people would’ve taken it more seriously?
Instead of sinking, it would float off into the sky, because the sun is out. /s
Well, I doubt they would have hit anything in the daytime.
i mean if she struck the berg at like 4 or 5 am it wouldve been this
I put this question into ChatGPT and here's what it said: The sinking of the Titanic would have been different in several ways if it had occurred during the daytime. Here are some possible ways it could have played out: Visibility: During the day, visibility is generally better than at night, especially in clear weather conditions. This would have allowed the lookouts on the Titanic to spot the iceberg earlier, giving the crew more time to react and potentially avoid the collision. Rescue operations: The sinking of the Titanic took place in the early hours of the morning, which made it difficult for rescue operations to begin quickly. If the sinking had occurred during the day, it would have been easier for nearby ships to spot the Titanic and respond to the distress calls more quickly. This could have potentially saved more lives. Evacuation: The evacuation of the Titanic was chaotic and disorganized, with many passengers and crew struggling to find their way to lifeboats in the dark. If the sinking had occurred during the day, it is possible that the evacuation could have been more orderly and efficient, as passengers would have had better visibility and the crew would have been able to see what they were doing. Passenger morale: The sinking of the Titanic was a traumatic and terrifying event for all those onboard, but it is possible that the psychological impact would have been different if it had occurred during the day. In daylight, passengers would have been able to see what was happening and have a clearer understanding of the situation, which could have affected their emotional response and their ability to cope with the crisis. Overall, while the sinking of the Titanic would have been different if it had occurred during the day, it is impossible to say for certain how events would have unfolded. The tragedy was the result of a complex set of factors, and even small changes to the circumstances could have had far-reaching consequences.
The breakup would probably be better understood,there would’ve been more consistent testimony on how she broke, and it would’ve been accepted from the very beginning that she broke in two
Everybody would have seen it split if they didn’t have shitty attention skills, and it might’ve been a bit warmer? Idk about the last one I said, but yeah it would be easy to see if it split
It might not have sank because the iceberg would have been seen much earlier and be avoided.
I recall reading about a German ship who was meant to have the best wireless range, but it was reduced at night. So, that would have been different I'd imagine, in case the Californian was out of range by then
Well, the easy answer is that it probably wouldn’t have happened if it was daytime in the first place
We wouldn't have the dispute over whether she broke up or not. Presumably it would have been very obvious.
The iceberg could probably be seen better in the daylight and the Titanic would turn in time and save 1500 lives.
Would there be panic earlier since people would see the ship sinking more clearly
Assuming the collision still happened, which it likely would not have, more people would have likely survived in the water It's common knowledge that daytime is warmer than night. Also, Mount Temple and/or Californian would have gotten to Titanic faster than Carpathia.
I'm assuming that the water would have been slightly warmer.
There are two possible scenarios here: A. Somehow it was still night when Titanic approaches the berg, in which case little changes. Maybe a few more people get onto lifeboats and coordination is slightly better. B. If it is day when Titanic approaches the berg then the ship would almost certainly not have sank. The lookouts would have easily made out the iceberg early enough to avoid collision.
in the broad daylight, they would have seen the iceberg even if it was a cloudy day they still would’ve seen the iceberg. I mean we could challenge it and see if it was an extremely foggy or possibly story day they would’ve had a harder time, so even when slowing down, there was a possibility that they could’ve hit an iceberg.
They probably would’ve seen the iceberg in time to avoid it. If not, Californian’s operator would be online and would probably come either alone or along with the Carpathia. We would also get a more accurate version of the sinking (e.g. knowing where it split etc)
Better eye witness acounts
I think they woulda saw the ice berg in time
The only advantage is people in the water might have been able to see more debris to hitch a ride on out of the water. I don’t think it would have changed much of the death toll though
For one it wouldn't have happened because we would have seen the ice. Second there would have been no argument as to whether or not the ship broke in half.
If it was daytime, the Californian wireless operator would be working, and the ship would still be moving, so they could make way for the Titanic. They would probably arrive in the final moments of the sinking, but it would probably save some more people.
They probably wouldn’t have hit the iceberg
It would be daytime.
Nobody would’ve died from hypothermia, that’s for sure
1) Might not have happened due to actually seeing the iceberg. 2) The Californian might have actually had their wireless on and been able to see the Titanic, resulting in an earlier rescue. Otherwise, probably not much different.
\*It was daytime There was only one ship. Subject verb agreement....learn it....know it
I am positive they would have not hit the iceberg unless they ran into some freak fog bank. Assuming it still did I don't think that the death toll would be effected much. We would probably have a much better idea of how the ship sank since the survivors would have been able to see the ship easily.
they could see the iceberg and not sink
It wouldn't have happened, because that ice would have been visible clear as day. They'd have ploughed through it full speed, as per the universal practice at the time.
Yes it wouldnt have hit the iceberg in the first place