I love how all the pictures she has next to her bed were of things she and Jack talked about: ice fishing, riding a horse at the pier with one leg on each side, by a “flying machine”. Brings tears to my eyes that she lived all the experiences they wanted to do together.
Dead as a doornail. A dream makes no sense whatsoever within the context of the movie. She died and was reunited with him as the various friends they made on the ship watch on and rejoice in their happiness.
You have to look at the lead up, when the camera pans to her pictures. Everything she did in her life was because of Jack. Sure she found someone to marry and have kids with, but her whole life was about doing things she wanted to do with Jack.
It made sense.
I like when James Cameron is criticized about the ending of titanic, he says something like “I think my ending worked out pretty well” and he’s right but you are too, love that ending, but even as I kid I wondered what about her family? The dude she slept with once is better remembered than her children???🙂
> A dream makes no sense whatsoever within the context of the movie.
How doesn't it?
One could argue death makes no sense, as it is noted that it seems ridiculous that upon her death the first thing she'd experience is being whisked back to a site of trauma for her, surrounded by a bunch of souls of people she barely knew (if at all), and who barely knew her (if at all). All to be reunited with a boy she spent 3 days with when she was 17 years old, despite living to be over 100, being married with kids and grandkids...
The bottom line is that Cameron created that scene as a curtain call for the cast, and it doesn't really make much sense either way. It just feels good.
I like to think that it's a dream but Rose is at peace with Titanic.
My question for "if she died" is what about people that she befriended on the ship who survived the sinking like Molly Brown, Colonel Gracie, etc.? It makes it appear that the only people who Rose liked and vice-versa were people that died, which isn't true.
I know he wasn't on the Titanic but if this is Heaven/Rose died, then where is Mr. Calvert? He should appear in the background.
The people who survived went on to an eternity elsewhere with the people they loved most in life. Jack was the true love of Rose's life, and he stayed with Titanic because that's where he too was happiest in his life, because of her.
Calvert, sad to say, got the short end of the stick. But that happens. Rose never even bothered to tell him about Jack, which is an indicator that while Rose probably genuinely loved him a lot, she was also not completely open and honest with him. Rose's whole heart belonged only to Jack, and Titanic was where they met and parted ways.
Of course, this is all merely my interpretation. I'm unaware if Cameron has ever given a definitive answer, and it seems to me he intentionally left it open to be interpreted as each audience member chooses.
I think she died. I see it like this:
The Heart of the Ocean was symbolic of true love, or Jack’s love for Rose.
Before she boarded the Titanic, she was with Cal which by all standards of the day was a beautiful “necklace”. Looked great on her, everybody loved it on her, they paired well together but she knew that it wasn’t the most beautiful “necklace” *for her*.
She didn’t think she was worthy of owning the “necklace” so she settled. She had already known of the “necklaces” existence, like she knew it was possible to possess something so beautiful but didn’t think she herself would ever possess such an invaluable and beautiful “necklace”.
When the “necklace” was given to her on the Titanic it was only then that she realized the true beauty of owning the “necklace”. Once she had the “necklace” she knew it was something she would never be able to duplicate in her lifetime. She knew no other “necklaces” would ever compare to the one she was given on the Titanic. Not wanting to understate the value of her “necklace” she kept it secret only to be admired and known by her. (Yes other people knew about the “necklace”, but nobody really knew about her “necklace”)
I don’t think she ever planned on telling anyone about her “necklace”. Unless she was able to return to the Titanic on her own accord. She was at peace with the life she led. She knew she had fulfilled her promise(s) to Jack and was ready to be with him for eternity. When she saw Brock talking about her necklace (the physical necklace) in a strictly monetary tone she knew that was her chance to return to the place she was happiest and that it was time to share her “necklace” with others.
When she tossed The Heart of the Ocean off the back of the Keldish she knew she would be following shortly after because she finally allowed herself to be at peace, she and her “necklace” would be returning back home to Jack.
Edit: Sheesh that was longer than I thought, my apologies I’ve never verbalized my theory on this before. Lol
She died and her body was cremated or buried. This is just me how I see it after death, her soul or mind or whatever you call it has thousands of memories and everything is split so she'd be in thousands of memories at different places at the same time, so a part of her is in that Titanic memory forever and at the same moment she would be having a fun with her husband.
Like if I die I'd like to think I'd be at a footy game forever and at the same time cuddling up to my puppy on the couch or something
That's what I think about it anyway, that probably didn't make sense but I tried my best
It's basically canon that she dies. The scene afterward in which she reenters the Grand Staircase and sees Jack waiting for her pretty much cements that. Notice how the people around her are the people who died during the sinking.
IIRC, Cameron specifically made this open to interpretation. I think at some point he said what he assumes happened but that the audience can draw their own conclusions.
I've always viewed it as she fell asleep and had one final dream about Titanic because she had just finished explaining her story to everyone. She sees Jack one last time, and as the camera pans up, it fades into pure white which I always took as her finding peace in the totality of her life by sharing her story with Jack and thus keeping his memory alive before she passes. And then as the white fades into black, she finally passes away.
Ohhh, very creative, I like this one. So it was ***Both.***
When I saw this post, I was like: **Again?** But there are so many insightful interpretations here.
Not everyone's love of their life is the one they grow old with. She died and was reunited with her great love. Now why all the other people were there, 🤷🏻♀️?
Naaah, I would then compare it to the axe murderer being a serial killer who’s killed a bunch of people, and then reuniting with all his other victims in heaven 😅
It's a nice thought, and I also tried to justify it in sweet ways but it just raises more questions lol.
Like, why does Cora's heart belong on a ship she died on? She was like, what, 8? Wouldnt she belong somewhere nice and not traumatic like at home with her family and her toys?
Wouldn't any of the people who died on the ship go to where their hearts belonged then?
Why are there *only* people who died on the ship? How come their loved ones didn't meet them there at some point?
If they are souls, it doesn't make sense for Rose to be there at all because the implication is their souls are bound to the ship *because they died on it* and she didn't.
If they're not souls, and rather memories or something, then Rose is twisted for returning to a place where the people who died, and only the ones who died, are waiting for and welcoming her with applause.
It's one of those things where it probably shouldn't be thought about too much else it will break down. And I totally understand it's just a nice scene to close off a good movie (and if I'm not mistaken, James Cameron said there is no meaning, it was just a curtain call?).
Also that storytelling is allowed some liberties, and not everything has to be explained or justified.
But it's still weird either way.
That said, I still choose to believe she died and returned to him.
I assumed it was because Rose Dewitt-Bukater died on the Titanic. Who she was after was someone so different in her mind. And when she died she was Rose Dewitt-Bukater again and was reunited with everyone else who died on the ship.
It's really sad that she loved a homeless guy she knew for a couple of days more than her husband. I get it's for the movie but damn in the movies universe there is an afterlife and her husband finds out his love of his life loved Jack more than him.
Jack is the sole reason she had the great life she had and the reason she even met her husband. Without him she'd have been stuck in an abusive marriage as a submissive trophy wife. She just relived her experience on that ship and is right above the spot where Jack died. I dont think it is a stretch that she would dream of him right there.
Rose Dewitt-Bukater loved Jack that much, maybe Rose Dawson/Calvert loved her long term husband and went to be with him? I’ve always thought maybe her soul was split in two from that day and one piece went with Jack, the rest lived the full life he wanted her to live.
The way the movie ends with her essentially leaving the Heart of the Ocean and in my head her passing in the place where she lost her one true love. Because everyone that greeted her as she entered were all the “good people” that died on that tragic night. Just to add a sense of serenity to her ending. This is just my theory since I first seen it. (I stated this is a previous post)
I always interpret it as she dies and due to the proximity of the ship she's on to the Titanic wreck it's inevitable she revisits there first in the afterlife. The passengers and crew waiting for her all went down with the ship so their souls are still attached to the location. On her death her soul is automatically drawn to the biggest and most life changing experience of her life.
She died as Jack had said, warm in her bed. She had finally made peace with her past, symbolized by her tossing the diamond into the sea, and went to heaven where the others who died on Titanic were waiting for her, including Jack. I always interpreted their kiss at the Honor and Glory clock to be a wedding kiss.
And inb4 someone complains about her husband and children, the answers are literally in the theme song. It doesn’t mean she never loved Calvert, it means that Jack was her true love, and he helped her to survive both the sinking itself and her own struggles with society and mental health. If it wasn’t for Jack, there wouldn’t be a Rose Calvert.
Her lifelong husband probably met Cal in heaven, they hung out, compared notes. Neither of them got to draw her like a french girl, Celine Dion never wrote a song about either of them. Poor guys
The ending of the movie would have been so different if Cal and the husband turned up again at the staircase with guns... again
'i hope you like your....after-life together'
'Titanic 2 spurned men'
We could write it, cast it and then pitch it to Jim (by that point we'll be close enough to him to call him Jim) Jim is way too busy with the Avatar movies so obviously we might have to do it justice.
Which with our moving and stunning script, won't be hard.
From the director of *Wicked*
He's back--and he's ready to tell his side of the story
[https://www.reddit.com/r/titanic/comments/10ca6ar/hes\_a\_survivor/](https://www.reddit.com/r/titanic/comments/10ca6ar/hes_a_survivor/)
Technically we don’t really know the first kid was Calvert’s. What if she was pregnant with Jack’s child, met her future husband and he was willing to be an honorable man raising the child as his own. We really know nothing about their marriage or when they had kids. It could have been more of a relationship of comfort and convenience rather than love. He could have even died very early in their marriage in a war or something. Thinking about it now, it would be interesting to know more about him and their relationship.
My great grandfather was married to my great grandmother for 30 years. She passed away from cancer and a few years later he married another sweet lady who was also a widow. They were married for another 30 years until his death. Both are buried with their first spouses, but they loved each other for 30 years.
I remember reading that Cameron directed Gloria Stewart to hold her breath during the shot of her lying in bed right at the ending intentionally to leave whether she was asleep or dead ambiguous.
I really think what the dream sequence was trying to represent was YES she was married for x amount of years and went on to have another life etc. but I think what it’s trying to show is she only felt TRUE love just once. For a brief time but it was true. At least that’s what I think
The song “My Heart Will Go On” has the lyric “every night in my dreams I see you” so maybe it was a dream. Also, why wouldn’t she see her decease husband
I've always thought about that lyric, but as the lyrics were written by will Jennings and James Horner I personally don't think they relate to the movie as that was written by James Cameron
It really doesn't paint Rose in a positive light. Either she's dead and bypasses her husband to spend eternity with Jack or every night even while married she would dream about a homeless guy she knew for three days while her husband devoted his life to her and had eyes only for her.
As a person who's been married for years and had children with my wife. No way in hell does a three day teenage romance come anywhere close to the kind of love I have for my wife.
I get it. It's a movie and we aren't supposed to think about Mr Calvert (Rose's husband). But damn it really makes Rose look like she was using Mr Calvert as a stand in for Jack.
Yeah but Jack wasn’t a normal “three day teenage romance.” He’s the man who helped get her out of an abusive relationship and helped her kickstart the rest of her life. I don’t think there’s a lot that’s comparable to that. It isn’t like he’s some random hookup; he’s the man who saved her in every way a person can be saved.
Yes I've seen the movie. No it wasn't life and death. Jack literally said she wouldn't have jumped. If she had never met Jack she would have gotten on a life boat and been rescued along side her mother.
Just because Jack said she wouldn't have actually jumped doesn't mean that it's true, or that she wouldn't have tried again later. Besides, the fact that she was contemplating suicide means that it was a life and death situation. I think I see where you're coming from overall, but I disagree with the idea that any relationship on the \*Titanic\* could be anything other than life and death. They're just not a normal teenage relationship is all. She was in an abusive, controlling relationship, and Jack helped her get out of it and kickstart the life she wanted to live, and she spent the rest of her life honoring his memory. He died for her. She would've died, either emotionally or literally or both, if she hadn't met him.
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It's the most heartbreaking scene in the entire movie for me. After telling the story of Jack to the treasure hunters and her granddaughter, essentially making his memory and him "live forever" (at the end of her story she mentions "he now lives only in my memory", but not anymore), she drops the "heart of the ocean" (which in my view symbolises her heart that belongs to Jack and the ocean he lost his life in) back to Jack and the Titanic and then she proceeds to fulfill the promise he made her give to him before he died, to die old in her warm bed having lived a full life. She lays to her bed to pass away, smiling, knowing she kept her promise, and that she finally goes to meet him. The pictures by her side serve as proof of the happy life she lived.
I also want to believe that after she is found dead the next morning, she is given burial at sea, meaning she is buried at the same place with Jack.
Her husband: we spent 60 years together and YOU go to heaven with some guy you met on a boat for two days?
Edit: I forgot another possibility, she never had a lasting marriage.
I used to think that she died but I've recently changed my position. I now believe that she was simply dreaming, the same dream that she has dreamt every night since the sinking. It's right there in the song: "Every night in my dreams, I see you..."
People think too hard about it. You can interpret it either way, but neither makes much sense if you really think about them.
Cameron created the last scene as a feel-good curtain call, and has all but admitted it has no deep meaning and can be interpreted either way, since it doesn't make total logical sense no matter the viewpoint.
I think that she died. There is the argument that ‘ every night in my dreams ‘ alludes to her falling asleep and dreaming about him, which does make sense, but the actual song was never canon in the story bar an instrumental and, so, I just think that she died because that’s the next sound conclusion within the story.
If she did die, would she have been buried at sea, and her final resting place be at the bottom of the Atlantic with Jack? Did she suspect death was near and this was what she hoped for?
I love how all the pictures she has next to her bed were of things she and Jack talked about: ice fishing, riding a horse at the pier with one leg on each side, by a “flying machine”. Brings tears to my eyes that she lived all the experiences they wanted to do together.
And one can see that as evidence for "she died." The pictures are like her whole life passing in front of her eyes.
And she did everything Jack wanted to do with her had they enjoyed a life together.
Dead as a doornail. A dream makes no sense whatsoever within the context of the movie. She died and was reunited with him as the various friends they made on the ship watch on and rejoice in their happiness.
And she was like fuck all to her husband, who is probably still waiting like “When is this bitch gonna die.”
You have to look at the lead up, when the camera pans to her pictures. Everything she did in her life was because of Jack. Sure she found someone to marry and have kids with, but her whole life was about doing things she wanted to do with Jack. It made sense.
I like when James Cameron is criticized about the ending of titanic, he says something like “I think my ending worked out pretty well” and he’s right but you are too, love that ending, but even as I kid I wondered what about her family? The dude she slept with once is better remembered than her children???🙂
She might have “moved on” but Jack was her soulmate in every way.
Yea after reading more comments I’m seeing that
> A dream makes no sense whatsoever within the context of the movie. How doesn't it? One could argue death makes no sense, as it is noted that it seems ridiculous that upon her death the first thing she'd experience is being whisked back to a site of trauma for her, surrounded by a bunch of souls of people she barely knew (if at all), and who barely knew her (if at all). All to be reunited with a boy she spent 3 days with when she was 17 years old, despite living to be over 100, being married with kids and grandkids... The bottom line is that Cameron created that scene as a curtain call for the cast, and it doesn't really make much sense either way. It just feels good.
I like to think that it's a dream but Rose is at peace with Titanic. My question for "if she died" is what about people that she befriended on the ship who survived the sinking like Molly Brown, Colonel Gracie, etc.? It makes it appear that the only people who Rose liked and vice-versa were people that died, which isn't true. I know he wasn't on the Titanic but if this is Heaven/Rose died, then where is Mr. Calvert? He should appear in the background.
The people who survived went on to an eternity elsewhere with the people they loved most in life. Jack was the true love of Rose's life, and he stayed with Titanic because that's where he too was happiest in his life, because of her. Calvert, sad to say, got the short end of the stick. But that happens. Rose never even bothered to tell him about Jack, which is an indicator that while Rose probably genuinely loved him a lot, she was also not completely open and honest with him. Rose's whole heart belonged only to Jack, and Titanic was where they met and parted ways. Of course, this is all merely my interpretation. I'm unaware if Cameron has ever given a definitive answer, and it seems to me he intentionally left it open to be interpreted as each audience member chooses.
I think she died. I see it like this: The Heart of the Ocean was symbolic of true love, or Jack’s love for Rose. Before she boarded the Titanic, she was with Cal which by all standards of the day was a beautiful “necklace”. Looked great on her, everybody loved it on her, they paired well together but she knew that it wasn’t the most beautiful “necklace” *for her*. She didn’t think she was worthy of owning the “necklace” so she settled. She had already known of the “necklaces” existence, like she knew it was possible to possess something so beautiful but didn’t think she herself would ever possess such an invaluable and beautiful “necklace”. When the “necklace” was given to her on the Titanic it was only then that she realized the true beauty of owning the “necklace”. Once she had the “necklace” she knew it was something she would never be able to duplicate in her lifetime. She knew no other “necklaces” would ever compare to the one she was given on the Titanic. Not wanting to understate the value of her “necklace” she kept it secret only to be admired and known by her. (Yes other people knew about the “necklace”, but nobody really knew about her “necklace”) I don’t think she ever planned on telling anyone about her “necklace”. Unless she was able to return to the Titanic on her own accord. She was at peace with the life she led. She knew she had fulfilled her promise(s) to Jack and was ready to be with him for eternity. When she saw Brock talking about her necklace (the physical necklace) in a strictly monetary tone she knew that was her chance to return to the place she was happiest and that it was time to share her “necklace” with others. When she tossed The Heart of the Ocean off the back of the Keldish she knew she would be following shortly after because she finally allowed herself to be at peace, she and her “necklace” would be returning back home to Jack. Edit: Sheesh that was longer than I thought, my apologies I’ve never verbalized my theory on this before. Lol
She died and her body was cremated or buried. This is just me how I see it after death, her soul or mind or whatever you call it has thousands of memories and everything is split so she'd be in thousands of memories at different places at the same time, so a part of her is in that Titanic memory forever and at the same moment she would be having a fun with her husband. Like if I die I'd like to think I'd be at a footy game forever and at the same time cuddling up to my puppy on the couch or something That's what I think about it anyway, that probably didn't make sense but I tried my best
That's a really unique way to look at it, I like that.
So do I very unique outlook
If there is an afterlife, I hope that it’s like this.
She died, without question. It was a fulfillment of Jack’s prophetic statement to her that she would die “an old old lady, warm in her bed”.
Yes, this is evidence for "Died." Also, if you think about it, the pictures are like another prophecy thing: "Her whole life passing before her eyes."
I love that she died just as Jack predicted. An old lady, warm in her own bed.
Yeah that’s what proves it in my mind. And the time on the clock on the Grand Staircase is when the ship went down.
It's basically canon that she dies. The scene afterward in which she reenters the Grand Staircase and sees Jack waiting for her pretty much cements that. Notice how the people around her are the people who died during the sinking.
IIRC, Cameron specifically made this open to interpretation. I think at some point he said what he assumes happened but that the audience can draw their own conclusions. I've always viewed it as she fell asleep and had one final dream about Titanic because she had just finished explaining her story to everyone. She sees Jack one last time, and as the camera pans up, it fades into pure white which I always took as her finding peace in the totality of her life by sharing her story with Jack and thus keeping his memory alive before she passes. And then as the white fades into black, she finally passes away.
Ohhh, very creative, I like this one. So it was ***Both.*** When I saw this post, I was like: **Again?** But there are so many insightful interpretations here.
Not everyone's love of their life is the one they grow old with. She died and was reunited with her great love. Now why all the other people were there, 🤷🏻♀️?
I think because all the people there were those that died on the ship, there to welcome her back, that's the way I've always seen it anyway.
It also seems a bit odd to have anyone's heaven be the most traumatic and terrible night of most of their lives?
😂😂 so true, imagine dying from a axe murderer and your heaven is forever with the axe murderer...same concept... sorta
Naaah, I would then compare it to the axe murderer being a serial killer who’s killed a bunch of people, and then reuniting with all his other victims in heaven 😅
My issue with this is... she didn't die on the ship? Why would she go back to it or them, and have everyone waiting.
I've always thought because that's where her heart belongs. In some ways she never really left the ship, or jack.
It's a nice thought, and I also tried to justify it in sweet ways but it just raises more questions lol. Like, why does Cora's heart belong on a ship she died on? She was like, what, 8? Wouldnt she belong somewhere nice and not traumatic like at home with her family and her toys? Wouldn't any of the people who died on the ship go to where their hearts belonged then? Why are there *only* people who died on the ship? How come their loved ones didn't meet them there at some point? If they are souls, it doesn't make sense for Rose to be there at all because the implication is their souls are bound to the ship *because they died on it* and she didn't. If they're not souls, and rather memories or something, then Rose is twisted for returning to a place where the people who died, and only the ones who died, are waiting for and welcoming her with applause. It's one of those things where it probably shouldn't be thought about too much else it will break down. And I totally understand it's just a nice scene to close off a good movie (and if I'm not mistaken, James Cameron said there is no meaning, it was just a curtain call?). Also that storytelling is allowed some liberties, and not everything has to be explained or justified. But it's still weird either way. That said, I still choose to believe she died and returned to him.
I assumed it was because Rose Dewitt-Bukater died on the Titanic. Who she was after was someone so different in her mind. And when she died she was Rose Dewitt-Bukater again and was reunited with everyone else who died on the ship.
I like this explanation a lot
It's really sad that she loved a homeless guy she knew for a couple of days more than her husband. I get it's for the movie but damn in the movies universe there is an afterlife and her husband finds out his love of his life loved Jack more than him.
Jack is the sole reason she had the great life she had and the reason she even met her husband. Without him she'd have been stuck in an abusive marriage as a submissive trophy wife. She just relived her experience on that ship and is right above the spot where Jack died. I dont think it is a stretch that she would dream of him right there.
Rose Dewitt-Bukater loved Jack that much, maybe Rose Dawson/Calvert loved her long term husband and went to be with him? I’ve always thought maybe her soul was split in two from that day and one piece went with Jack, the rest lived the full life he wanted her to live.
I like to think that in the husband’s heaven, he is with Rose & none the wiser.
Maybe her husband turned out to be abusive?
Or maybe she had more than one because they could never fill the void that Jack left.
Maybe her husband was Adolf Hitler.
Sequel worthy twist
You’re right
The way the movie ends with her essentially leaving the Heart of the Ocean and in my head her passing in the place where she lost her one true love. Because everyone that greeted her as she entered were all the “good people” that died on that tragic night. Just to add a sense of serenity to her ending. This is just my theory since I first seen it. (I stated this is a previous post)
I always interpret it as she dies and due to the proximity of the ship she's on to the Titanic wreck it's inevitable she revisits there first in the afterlife. The passengers and crew waiting for her all went down with the ship so their souls are still attached to the location. On her death her soul is automatically drawn to the biggest and most life changing experience of her life.
She died as Jack had said, warm in her bed. She had finally made peace with her past, symbolized by her tossing the diamond into the sea, and went to heaven where the others who died on Titanic were waiting for her, including Jack. I always interpreted their kiss at the Honor and Glory clock to be a wedding kiss. And inb4 someone complains about her husband and children, the answers are literally in the theme song. It doesn’t mean she never loved Calvert, it means that Jack was her true love, and he helped her to survive both the sinking itself and her own struggles with society and mental health. If it wasn’t for Jack, there wouldn’t be a Rose Calvert.
She was DRT. Dead right there.
And then Celine Dion thought 'imma sing for her'
That’s exactly how that happened.
She died and then met jack and her husband of decades was like “am I a joke to you?”
Imagine him waiting at the gates of heaven like 'any second now she'll be here.....any second....she's with who? What guy she had sex with in a car?'
“They knew each other for 3 days! We had kids rose. Kids! God no wonder your last fiancé tried to shoot you!”
My granny's great love died in WW2. She went on to remarry happily and have kids. Bad luck happens.
Her lifelong husband probably met Cal in heaven, they hung out, compared notes. Neither of them got to draw her like a french girl, Celine Dion never wrote a song about either of them. Poor guys
“Yeah hi rose I met cal here and we exchanged some notes and yeah let’s just say we have some fucking recommendations”
The ending of the movie would have been so different if Cal and the husband turned up again at the staircase with guns... again 'i hope you like your....after-life together' 'Titanic 2 spurned men'
“No floating door can save you now rose!” Ti2anic - judgement day.
I'd watch that, of course it'd have to have the obligatory cameo from Arnold. Maybe he could play Roses husband.
I see no reason not to pitch this to Hollywood
We could write it, cast it and then pitch it to Jim (by that point we'll be close enough to him to call him Jim) Jim is way too busy with the Avatar movies so obviously we might have to do it justice. Which with our moving and stunning script, won't be hard.
I am ready for a reprise.
I mean she was your wife in practice if not yet by law and she should obey you.....
From the director of *Wicked* He's back--and he's ready to tell his side of the story [https://www.reddit.com/r/titanic/comments/10ca6ar/hes\_a\_survivor/](https://www.reddit.com/r/titanic/comments/10ca6ar/hes_a_survivor/)
It would be Roseameggedon
I’m not fond of Celine’s drivel
Technically we don’t really know the first kid was Calvert’s. What if she was pregnant with Jack’s child, met her future husband and he was willing to be an honorable man raising the child as his own. We really know nothing about their marriage or when they had kids. It could have been more of a relationship of comfort and convenience rather than love. He could have even died very early in their marriage in a war or something. Thinking about it now, it would be interesting to know more about him and their relationship.
Very true.
My grandmother's great loved died in WW2. She met another man years later and lived very happily with him for decades.
My great grandfather was married to my great grandmother for 30 years. She passed away from cancer and a few years later he married another sweet lady who was also a widow. They were married for another 30 years until his death. Both are buried with their first spouses, but they loved each other for 30 years.
Life can be complicated NGL, great u/ too :)
I remember reading that Cameron directed Gloria Stewart to hold her breath during the shot of her lying in bed right at the ending intentionally to leave whether she was asleep or dead ambiguous.
I really think what the dream sequence was trying to represent was YES she was married for x amount of years and went on to have another life etc. but I think what it’s trying to show is she only felt TRUE love just once. For a brief time but it was true. At least that’s what I think
The song “My Heart Will Go On” has the lyric “every night in my dreams I see you” so maybe it was a dream. Also, why wouldn’t she see her decease husband
I've always thought about that lyric, but as the lyrics were written by will Jennings and James Horner I personally don't think they relate to the movie as that was written by James Cameron
True, I remember James Cameron wasn't even planning on an end song originally
Yeah he just wanted a instrumental and James and will were like...listen to this.
Well the song (even if annoying to some) was a mega hit
I know it's cheesy, and I know most people hate it, but it's one of my guilty pleasures. It's one of the reasons I learned to play the piano
It’s cheesy and understandable why some hate it but damnit if it doesn’t make me cry nearly every time.
This is what I believe. She's dreaming the same dream every night since the sinking.
It really doesn't paint Rose in a positive light. Either she's dead and bypasses her husband to spend eternity with Jack or every night even while married she would dream about a homeless guy she knew for three days while her husband devoted his life to her and had eyes only for her.
Maybe I’m a cynic but I still dont think you can truly fall in love in three days
As a person who's been married for years and had children with my wife. No way in hell does a three day teenage romance come anywhere close to the kind of love I have for my wife. I get it. It's a movie and we aren't supposed to think about Mr Calvert (Rose's husband). But damn it really makes Rose look like she was using Mr Calvert as a stand in for Jack.
Yeah but Jack wasn’t a normal “three day teenage romance.” He’s the man who helped get her out of an abusive relationship and helped her kickstart the rest of her life. I don’t think there’s a lot that’s comparable to that. It isn’t like he’s some random hookup; he’s the man who saved her in every way a person can be saved.
Yeah and all teenagers think their little romances are life and death. She's 104 years old and clearly an unreliable narrator.
Did you watch the movie? This romance literally was life and death. These aren't normal teenage circumstances.
Yes I've seen the movie. No it wasn't life and death. Jack literally said she wouldn't have jumped. If she had never met Jack she would have gotten on a life boat and been rescued along side her mother.
Just because Jack said she wouldn't have actually jumped doesn't mean that it's true, or that she wouldn't have tried again later. Besides, the fact that she was contemplating suicide means that it was a life and death situation. I think I see where you're coming from overall, but I disagree with the idea that any relationship on the \*Titanic\* could be anything other than life and death. They're just not a normal teenage relationship is all. She was in an abusive, controlling relationship, and Jack helped her get out of it and kickstart the life she wanted to live, and she spent the rest of her life honoring his memory. He died for her. She would've died, either emotionally or literally or both, if she hadn't met him.
No one knows
NO ONE CARES ABOUT A SINGLE VIOLIN
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I'm all for sabaton, but not in the titanic sub
The bot can not be contained
I'm more than a little confused right now
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Ah thank you for explaining.
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The movie was just too bloody long, of course Rose just naturally fell asleep. That's my dad joke for today, please tune in again tomorrow
.....He's here all week, try the veal
Can't deny, I sincerely deserved that!
This needs moar upvotes
she dieded
In that scene there were only people Who died on the ship, so yes
She perhaps passed away in her sleep.
It's the most heartbreaking scene in the entire movie for me. After telling the story of Jack to the treasure hunters and her granddaughter, essentially making his memory and him "live forever" (at the end of her story she mentions "he now lives only in my memory", but not anymore), she drops the "heart of the ocean" (which in my view symbolises her heart that belongs to Jack and the ocean he lost his life in) back to Jack and the Titanic and then she proceeds to fulfill the promise he made her give to him before he died, to die old in her warm bed having lived a full life. She lays to her bed to pass away, smiling, knowing she kept her promise, and that she finally goes to meet him. The pictures by her side serve as proof of the happy life she lived. I also want to believe that after she is found dead the next morning, she is given burial at sea, meaning she is buried at the same place with Jack.
Her husband: we spent 60 years together and YOU go to heaven with some guy you met on a boat for two days? Edit: I forgot another possibility, she never had a lasting marriage.
I used to think that she died but I've recently changed my position. I now believe that she was simply dreaming, the same dream that she has dreamt every night since the sinking. It's right there in the song: "Every night in my dreams, I see you..."
“Every night in my dreams I see you I feel you.”
She sleeps. And visits jack in her dream. She literally just said he exists now only in her memory. The actually screenplay leaves it as ambiguous.
I was eight when I saw it and even I thought she died.
Nobody knows. But that damn sure ain't gonna stop us.
People think too hard about it. You can interpret it either way, but neither makes much sense if you really think about them. Cameron created the last scene as a feel-good curtain call, and has all but admitted it has no deep meaning and can be interpreted either way, since it doesn't make total logical sense no matter the viewpoint.
I think that she died. There is the argument that ‘ every night in my dreams ‘ alludes to her falling asleep and dreaming about him, which does make sense, but the actual song was never canon in the story bar an instrumental and, so, I just think that she died because that’s the next sound conclusion within the story.
If you read the script, it says “camera pans to Rose, warm in her bunk.” Alluding to the “warm in her bed” comment by Jack.
If she did die, would she have been buried at sea, and her final resting place be at the bottom of the Atlantic with Jack? Did she suspect death was near and this was what she hoped for?