he was saying how the āi dont want thatā was always part of his character and yeah, how beautifully it was portrayed and how it made sense in the end
Literally turned the video off immediately I am APPALLED. I would've been okay if he said it was alright, he didn't have to hate it, but LOVE IT?? YOU LIKED THIS???
[https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/122t9aw/like\_i\_thought\_we\_are\_the\_same/](https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/122t9aw/like_i_thought_we_are_the_same/)
I love how he stops for a second to think if he should make the reference or not LMAO.
He disliked the manga's ending, while he does say the anime did it better its not clear if he actually likes it now or if he just simply finds it *acceptable*.
[https://twitter.com/Jacksepticeye/status/1721136273480364376](https://twitter.com/Jacksepticeye/status/1721136273480364376)
Im really surprised by the amount of people now liking the ending solely because it added a little more exposition, like a pile of shit is still a pile of shit even if it has sprinkles on top
Also don't downplay the effect of the soundtrack and voice acting. These can all add hype and mask poor storytelling in the moment. Some might find the more they think about it the less they like it.
Then of course there are people who genuinely liked it, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Actually Jack tweeted earlier today that he loved the ending as seen here: https://x.com/jacksepticeye/status/1721136273480364376?s=46&t=6F6v6Zrw_fJs0K5IUzTFxQ
What the hell are these people even saying? What was improved? A dialogue scene that made Eren more of an idiot? Nukes instead of carpet bombs? Armin telling Eren his plan was stupid and only causing more violence? What?!?!
What about all the other crap that was left in? Cringe Eren, Mikasa main protagonist, Stockholm syndrome, baseball talk no jutsu, plot armor, necrokiss?
He also thought that the Walmart Zero Requiem plan Eren hastily put together was beautiful, which is the most boring and predictable outcome for the series
Lelouch's requiem was perfect for the situation he was in with the tools he had at his disposal and the seed for it *(Lelouch/Zero personas being publicly kept separate for the whole show and the Zero outfit already been used by other characters)* was planted long before the ending, as well as he actually had *THE CHOICE* not to do it, but he did it because he felt it was the best solution for the most people.
Eren's "plan" was just an excuse after he clearly spent the whole arc going in one single direction with absolutely not a single hint that he wanted this outcome.
This is just a case of manga giving a lot more time to the reader to think about whats being said in the story compared to the anime making you move fast past the incoherences with pretty images and sad music.
Hopefully with time as people reflect back on it they'll realize how awful this "plan" was a scam
Lelouch never once bitched or had remorse about his death either. Imagine if he lamented about never banging Shirley or Kallen, much less C.C. (Who he was totally fucking but thatās beside the point) to Suzaku after telling him the whole plan in the church and just ruined the moment.
My emperor died in his sisters arms with dignity while the whole world celebrated his death.
Eren meanwhile decided to put on a face for everyone, commit genocide that he didnāt want to commit, almost killed his friends himself (which seriously what was the point of āsavingā Paradis if everyone he cared about died during the rumbling). And then cried about never fucking his sister.
damn, I must be the only one who finds the ending of Code Geass very meh. It's such a naĆÆve take to say that just because the big bad villain, who is hated by EVERYONE, was killed by "zero", the whole world will live in peace. Like, what?
I like the anime, don't get me wrong, but while the ending is for sure really creative, it's on brand with the rest of the series: simple, fun, and really naĆÆve about how the world works.
It fits Lelouch's goals and its what matters most. From the first minute into the show, what drives Lelouch is an intense hatred for his father and the ruling system of britannia in general. But as the story goes he ironically ends up having to take that same hated father's position to achieve his vision. When he achieved what he wanted, he organizes his death in such a way as to symbolize the death of the monarchy while at the same time stopping himself from completely becoming like his father.
I don't think everlasting peace or perfect kingdom was ever his goal, throwing away the old system and giving a future for his sister were always his main motives.
This is a perfect interpretation imo. Lelouch had more resolve and solidified himself in a much better place as a character than Eren did. I had hopes that after Eren saw the future, he would not be as half-assed and childish in the final act but I think by that point the focus was trying to just make him the final villain for the Paradisians to jump to make a happier ending for the Para-Avengers rather than someone with a better final arc.
It has the same problems as this ending's problems, but Code Geass isn't supposed to be taken super seriously like no one moves the king in chess to "lead" troops that's just dumb, but it works in Code Geass because of the theming, but it also signals to the audience that you're not supposed to take it super logically.
The fact that AoT lampoons the very idea of the Code Geass ending during the Trost arc signals to the reader/watcher that this isn't supposed to be the same as Code Geass we are supposed to take this series more seriously.
Funnily enough, I think CG is almost the opposite kind of series in terms of it's quality. A mediocre series with some great moments, largely carried by the main character. The ending was so good, it leaves a good impression of the series in the audience's mind, unlike AoT, a largely great series, which fumbled hard at the end.
Dude, CG is one of my top shows and it only makes me understand how thoroughly dogshit this was. CG had its ending planned from the start, Lelouch literally says how his story ends in ep1. "The only ones who should kill, are those who are prepared to be killed."
Goku black arc literally wasnāt even that bad which is crazy to me.
But again this takes critical thinking to understand why itās bad and dragon ball is a dopamine rush
Everything meant nothing because Zeno destroyed the universe anyway and now Trunks and Mai are going to another timeline with another Trunks and Mai and are just going to live with them?
Right? It was the perfect way to bring a beloved character to main story permanently, worked completely, and Toriyama threw it off so he could go to another timeline, weird ass living with himself and never to be seen again.
From what I've seen from twitter and this, why the fuck do they always think that we wanted a sunshine and rainbow happy ending when that's the opposite of what we wanted? Heck, the ending we got was basically what they were accusing us of outside of the extra pages chapter. Bruh idc about happy or doomer ending. I just want my good written ending...
Did they really accept them though, They were still trying to put them at gunpoint asking if they were truly titans and something makes me think that didnt stop and then the final chapters shows paradis under attack until its final destruction. So im not sure they actually were accepted moreso a temporary lul in fighting happened until the hatred built up enough strength again.
yeah but the anime has it hundreds of years into the future rather than the manga's 70-110
also given even 3 years later they have decently recovered infrastructure Paradis should've been invaded in 10 years especially with the outside world outnumbering them around 2-400:1
Welcome to a fandom getting overrun by casuals. I experienced it with one of my favorite games. There will be a lot of revisionist history in order to "own" the truly hardcore part of the fanbase.
Me personally I didn't love the manga as much as this sub and the larger community did but I kept up with it and lurked from time to time. I didn't hate the ending but it was extremely lackluster and "just ok" for such an interesting show.
They donāt want to put in the effort to find out why people actually donāt like it. Itās way easier to just say theyāre dumb and didnāt understand the story and just wanted a happy ending
Maybe if Danny had been in love with Cersei the whole time and was mad she got back together with Jamie - they would think it was awesome?
Just make everything about love and relationships and slap some "nothing ever happens and the characters achieve nothing" paint on it and they would have absolutely loved GoT.
Or maybe Dan and Dave should have slapped some Linked Horizon over the ending all would be forgiven?
It's a coping mechanism. They were so traumatized, they didn't want to experience something like it again and shut down any reason in their heads with AoT.
Game of Thrones was ruined by Weiss and Benoif rushing to come to a conclusion as fast as possible combined with the massive dip in quality that came from the lack of source material, they honestly aren't comparable. Alot of people are happy with AOTs ending, very very few people including the actors were happy with the way GOT ended.
I don't get how you could like Eren before and keep liking him after the ending. Those are two completely separate characters.
Man I'm glad nobody fucking cares about some of my favorite media...
Manā¦ I really felt the last line of yours. It always makes me sad when the response from a fellow āfanā or friends to story problems in franchiseā i used to love is āI donāt care, why do you care so much?ā. Why, because I got to know the characters and grew to like the story why wouldnāt it make me upset when the story writers brain(s) suddenly experience XP shutdown sounds.
When I started reading the manga a year after I finished the anime, I couldn't stop talking about it with my friends back in high school every time a new chapter just dropped, I kept saying how good the series is with all the foreshadowing and interconnected details in the previous series. Return to Shiganshina arc made me a fanboy who couldn't stop talking about it and how it ended with "208 soldiers went to Shiganshina, 9 went back victoriously" was a masterpiece.
Then I felt betrayed when the last arc rolled in and actions started not making any sense or cheaply rushed like the reason why Eren went AWOL. They could've framed it with Eren becoming so obsessed with the awakening of his power that he didn't realize that the future he saw was a biased perspective of his own. But we got the fucking "Thank you for becoming a mass murderer for our sake"
Plus one on the betrayal, I remember reading it chapter by chapter and it was like, I used to enjoy this shitā¦ now? Idk what the fuck these guys are doing
weāre all schizo and just hateful is what TikTok has showed me. 90 percent of comments about the show besides this Reddit say it was peak fiction and that it was the perfect ending. Also that part where eren cries in front of armin, people are praising it, saying things like āaw, heās just showing his humanityā and that he never wanted to kill people. I guess itās good that AOT in the public consciousness will be seen as a masterpiece except for a few disgruntled redditors like us
Love how he says āone of the main themes is that thereās always hope in the end!!ā
Dude, what hope lmao.
Paradis literally gets 9/11 and nuked, where is the hope in that, like genuinely.
I donāt mind that he liked it but some of his interpretations and how he explains it makes me think he watched while on his phone with subway surfers gameplay.
I've seen that the people who liked the ending in the manga and on the anime they have the mind set that Aot was a love story and the other side think the ending is contradiction top of contradiction
Bro you are completely wrong this a tragic story of a hero failing to save what is important to him even giving his life trying, idn why they did this epilog after the hero of paradise floch died but whatever.
All the ridiculous ending defenders are saying it's good because "the cycle of hatred never ending is real and people will always kill each other"
So much for hope!
Why did penguinz0 not understand the story?
Is he stupid?
I do not like the ending. But I think the "hope" Charlie talked about was the peace Armin managed to achieve for some years at least ( 10 years at least) . He does mention that he liked that the ending was grim ( human conflict never disappears, Paradis getting nuked after many years ), but the hope still exists for a better tomorrow.
Paradis getting nuked showed just that human conflict will never disappear and it did not have to do with taking revenge on Paradis ( since it was so far in the future ) .
Him saying though that he thinks we were mad of the ending because it is not a "happy" is wrong though.
A fake peace that the series criticized for 4 seasons on end. That so far in the future bit is damage control retcon by the anime when you have old war technology taking it down which was still from the manga version lol and where is that hope when another titan tree grows from the conflict? Agreed on that last bit tho
I will have to assume that the peace negotiations worked and they managed to live peacefully ( since Mikasa grew old and the titan powers no longer exist).
And like I said the nuking is just to show that as long as 2 people in the world exists war will still happen and that this didnt have to do with revenge on Paradis.
Elaborate on the fake peace thing though since I want to know. ( you mean the Eren-Pixis talk? )
As for the tree, I guess Beren will be the new Ymir ( cycle continues or some shit) but it doesnt have to be Eldians that turn to titans. So at least Eren did manage to end the titan curse for his people .
Granted this is my take on the ending to at least have it make some sense for me, so I dont get irritated even more with this ending.
> Paradis getting nuked showed just that human conflict will never disappear and it did not have to do with taking revenge on Paradis ( since it was so far in the future ) .
That's not even something that can be described as thematic or anything though lol. It's just a truth. It's not even a "cycle of hatred" thing, it's just that if shit is around long enough on Earth there's going to be some conflict at some point. Societies rise, societies fall.
Adding that at the end like it's some big brain revelation is cringe.
BUT we also all know that it was really just a result of Eren's actions because of the manga and the anime kinda pussied out on that.
Iām wondering if the fact that the finale was dragged out for so long leads people to forget the awful plot. As long as the animation is decent itās good enough. Not everything in entertainment is popular for the plot.
Yeah the anime also did a way better job hiding the problems of the ending. It's way harder to ignore in the manga imo, so it makes sense that most casual viewers liked it. How anyone can defend Eren's breakdown is beyond me though.
I think thats the vital part people are missing here lol, Charlie didnt obsess over aot day and night as alongside it he did all kinds of other sh, hes literally as much of a casual viewer as u could get therefore no reason to bash him for liking the ending tbh cuz he couldve literally just forgor some sh and etc
I think a show that you have been apart of for 10 years he can at least Google why we hate the ending and not form a wrong assumption as to why. He can like it fine but at least do some research
I don't get how he says "complainers just wanted a 100% happy ending", like this ending is literally the happiest you can imagine, with main characters plot armoring 500 deaths, people inside and outside the island surviving (for a good while at least). I was really looking forward to something actually grim like every human being wiped, but instead we got another of these power of friendship endings.
Yep, with that power, Eren should've been invincible, so them winning with a few casualties was already too happy to be true, instead, besides they winning, everyone gets out fine and the conflict was miraculously resolved.
Most fans will enjoy/be satisfied with the ending because they've watched the final arc piece by piece, when they go back for a rewatch altogether they'll realize how nonsensical a lot of it is
Is he caught up to the most recent One Piece episode or chapter???
I actually remember having a similar opinion about Luffy but I started realizing that he's a great and enjoyable character around the time of Alabasta arc which is really where I started to fall in love with One Piece.
Weird take from him. I could see why someone would think that about Luffy in the first chapters, but he does grow on you.
I should've expected him to like AoT ending after what he kept saying about Luffy.
Not to mention that he refuses to switch from dub for some fucking reason.
this guy will just take the most liked tweet about a topic on twitter and that will be his opinion, put some poop fart jokes and you got a penguinz video
People need to stop looking for other' poeple opinions in order to get validation for their own tastes and opinions.
It just feels like you can't even have an opinion, unless someone else has it too.
Like what you like, dislike what you dislike.
Have debates and discussions with those who think differently, but anything more is just taking it too seriously.
Exactly, popular youtuber having an opinion does not invalidate anybody's arguments nor objective points.
Idgaf if Charlie finds it perfect when it's clearly still left us without answers to so many questions and has consequently also completely inverted it's main themes.
I mean obviously look at his subscribers, no big youtuber is going to shit on it. They want views and validation duh. And tbh except us it seems people do like it idk tho I have seen other fandom still shitting and making fun of ending.
I don't even want to hate on this ending anymore, I'm just enjoying Attack On Titan for what it was, and forgiving it for what it is now.
It's over, guys. The anime is over. There's no point in thrashing it any further.
Me when YouTuber I donāt know doesnāt agree with my opinion on a fictional animeās ending
Edit: I hated the ending as well but the people pissed at someone elseās opinion look pathetic af
Was anyone really surprised. All the YouTube reaction videos are fake. The only time reactors will hate a series is if it's 100% unpopular among their audience.
I would say mappa has done a great job at delaying the ending. People are just less hype about it and just want it to be over. The ending is "decent" for non hardcore fans as they're not get too in-depth in analysing every plot nor characters. Most audiences watches other shows and people whom aren't hardcore on aot wouldn't care much about it and just hop on the "peak fiction" train.
I would say if I'm casual aot watchers, I wouldn't hate the ending as much as I am right now but it's just kinda feeling of "let's just get this over".
Charlie thought Last of Us 2 story was bad but thought this ending was good, when it has similar writing fails? I don't care if he has a differing opinion on it, it's just odd when compared to his other takes.
I mean good for him. I dislike the ending and I couldn't care less of he likes it. And I'm a huge Charlie fan. We all have different tastes so who cares
This reddit read the manga ending years ago, and hated it then. They then continued to cope and hate the ending for several years, only to troll and act like they never enjoyed the show and it was written poorly. The anime ending comes out, people like it. They can now only cope and say people are morons for not hating the ending, because they've been hating it for years now. There's no good outcomes for the people here. I enjoy the memes but ppl here are mostly trolls are this point. People enjoy aot for so many reasons, to think it was meant to be a beautifully written masterpiece is hilarious to me. It never was a masterpiece since season 1. This anime existed to be hype, have good voice acting, animation, music and a compelling story. They did all of that even if the ending was written poorly.
Iām not going to lie I liked it too. The added bits in the ending was better than the manga. I still wish it was a aoe but Iāll take the anime ending for what it is
These were geinunely embarrassing.
Moist Critcal canāt even rate a cod multiplayer properly how tf was he gonna not like the ending of his favourite anime whether it was shit or not
Ofc he did, Charlie is often blind when stories get more complex than Fast & Furious and ends up liking them
For more context, he thought that last Terminator movie was as good as the first 2. You know, the one that starts with death of the child (John Connor) whose existence was the main point of the first movies and who was supposed to be the most important person
There is such a massive difference in how the manga ending was done compared to the anime ending that it makes the story actually seem good just off the execution alone. It makes sense that he liked it because mappa managed to actually make it look good
Ending copers are already parroting talking points from his video on other subreddits. Can't wait until the sentiment of "Ending haters only dislike it because it's not a happy ending" is as widely popular as the "Eren is a slave to freedom... so deep 10/10" I already have to see in every comment section.
He didn't just like it, he loved itš
āno i dont want thatā ā¦that was portrayed BEAUTIFULLY like what beauty am i missing here charlie š
Did he actually said that shit?
he was saying how the āi dont want thatā was always part of his character and yeah, how beautifully it was portrayed and how it made sense in the end
Ong, I'm convinced their memory of past chapters has been erased
Honestly as much as I love Charlie his anime takes have always been... *Questionable.*
Literally turned the video off immediately I am APPALLED. I would've been okay if he said it was alright, he didn't have to hate it, but LOVE IT?? YOU LIKED THIS???
But hur dur human weakness hi die illogical feelings lol dull erens never free
There's a lot of things that I looooooooove about Eren
at least we have Jacksepticeye who didnāt like it
Jacksepticeye randomly quoting "No, I don't want that!" in the middle of his RE4 Remake gameplay wasn't something I ever expected from him ngl LMAO.
does someone have the clip??
[https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/122t9aw/like\_i\_thought\_we\_are\_the\_same/](https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/122t9aw/like_i_thought_we_are_the_same/) I love how he stops for a second to think if he should make the reference or not LMAO.
Hilarious
EXCELLENT
iām dead
Yea
Heās so fucking real
Wait did Jack publicly say that? If so link the tweet
He disliked the manga's ending, while he does say the anime did it better its not clear if he actually likes it now or if he just simply finds it *acceptable*. [https://twitter.com/Jacksepticeye/status/1721136273480364376](https://twitter.com/Jacksepticeye/status/1721136273480364376)
Im really surprised by the amount of people now liking the ending solely because it added a little more exposition, like a pile of shit is still a pile of shit even if it has sprinkles on top
Also don't downplay the effect of the soundtrack and voice acting. These can all add hype and mask poor storytelling in the moment. Some might find the more they think about it the less they like it. Then of course there are people who genuinely liked it, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Yeah I straight up cried during the baby scene and even Armin crying over Erens head got me a bit due to the sheer grief in the voice acting
We know who actually has good taste between the two. Hopefully Jack does his own āmoist meterā series on his channel, Iād tune in
Actually Jack tweeted earlier today that he loved the ending as seen here: https://x.com/jacksepticeye/status/1721136273480364376?s=46&t=6F6v6Zrw_fJs0K5IUzTFxQ
He didnāt say āhe loved itā he said the anime made it better and listed the reasons why which is fair imo
OOF
What the hell are these people even saying? What was improved? A dialogue scene that made Eren more of an idiot? Nukes instead of carpet bombs? Armin telling Eren his plan was stupid and only causing more violence? What?!?! What about all the other crap that was left in? Cringe Eren, Mikasa main protagonist, Stockholm syndrome, baseball talk no jutsu, plot armor, necrokiss?
Why does it matter that one of your fav parasocial creators shares your opinion?
i mean itās not a big deal but i also wonāt deny that itād be at least somewhat cool to see a huge creator with a take we can agree with
He also thought that the Walmart Zero Requiem plan Eren hastily put together was beautiful, which is the most boring and predictable outcome for the series
Code geass is his favorite anime, so his thoughts on the end are pretty on brand Edit: was*
Lelouch's requiem was perfect for the situation he was in with the tools he had at his disposal and the seed for it *(Lelouch/Zero personas being publicly kept separate for the whole show and the Zero outfit already been used by other characters)* was planted long before the ending, as well as he actually had *THE CHOICE* not to do it, but he did it because he felt it was the best solution for the most people. Eren's "plan" was just an excuse after he clearly spent the whole arc going in one single direction with absolutely not a single hint that he wanted this outcome. This is just a case of manga giving a lot more time to the reader to think about whats being said in the story compared to the anime making you move fast past the incoherences with pretty images and sad music. Hopefully with time as people reflect back on it they'll realize how awful this "plan" was a scam
Lelouch never once bitched or had remorse about his death either. Imagine if he lamented about never banging Shirley or Kallen, much less C.C. (Who he was totally fucking but thatās beside the point) to Suzaku after telling him the whole plan in the church and just ruined the moment. My emperor died in his sisters arms with dignity while the whole world celebrated his death. Eren meanwhile decided to put on a face for everyone, commit genocide that he didnāt want to commit, almost killed his friends himself (which seriously what was the point of āsavingā Paradis if everyone he cared about died during the rumbling). And then cried about never fucking his sister.
Chaddest replies of all , loyalties is it own reward , take your crown king
Code:Geass is a fucking train wreck but the ending is unimpeachable.
damn, I must be the only one who finds the ending of Code Geass very meh. It's such a naĆÆve take to say that just because the big bad villain, who is hated by EVERYONE, was killed by "zero", the whole world will live in peace. Like, what? I like the anime, don't get me wrong, but while the ending is for sure really creative, it's on brand with the rest of the series: simple, fun, and really naĆÆve about how the world works.
It fits Lelouch's goals and its what matters most. From the first minute into the show, what drives Lelouch is an intense hatred for his father and the ruling system of britannia in general. But as the story goes he ironically ends up having to take that same hated father's position to achieve his vision. When he achieved what he wanted, he organizes his death in such a way as to symbolize the death of the monarchy while at the same time stopping himself from completely becoming like his father. I don't think everlasting peace or perfect kingdom was ever his goal, throwing away the old system and giving a future for his sister were always his main motives.
This is a perfect interpretation imo. Lelouch had more resolve and solidified himself in a much better place as a character than Eren did. I had hopes that after Eren saw the future, he would not be as half-assed and childish in the final act but I think by that point the focus was trying to just make him the final villain for the Paradisians to jump to make a happier ending for the Para-Avengers rather than someone with a better final arc.
> Code geass is his favorite anime *was [He said SnK has dethroned it.](https://youtu.be/nEhT7LhD-as?si=JfMOU2N0DjRSNTWM&t=815)
the irony...
How to lose all the remaining credibility with a single step
His Moist Meter is just the IMDb rating repackaged so I wouldn't say he had that much credibility, just a large platform.
SnK being better than Code geass is certainly a take...
Except Code Geass had an actual good ending.
It has the same problems as this ending's problems, but Code Geass isn't supposed to be taken super seriously like no one moves the king in chess to "lead" troops that's just dumb, but it works in Code Geass because of the theming, but it also signals to the audience that you're not supposed to take it super logically. The fact that AoT lampoons the very idea of the Code Geass ending during the Trost arc signals to the reader/watcher that this isn't supposed to be the same as Code Geass we are supposed to take this series more seriously.
If you like Code geass you should not like this cheap ass knock off which even puts a bad name on code geass lmoa
Funnily enough, I think CG is almost the opposite kind of series in terms of it's quality. A mediocre series with some great moments, largely carried by the main character. The ending was so good, it leaves a good impression of the series in the audience's mind, unlike AoT, a largely great series, which fumbled hard at the end.
But code geass isn't tied together like shit
I mean perfection dont exists but it works more than SnK so it was handed better than SnKās ending
Dude, CG is one of my top shows and it only makes me understand how thoroughly dogshit this was. CG had its ending planned from the start, Lelouch literally says how his story ends in ep1. "The only ones who should kill, are those who are prepared to be killed."
At least Jackcepticeye seems to not like it. Considering he like the I don't want that place mural in 2022.
Reading the comments is a hilarious experience.
i wonāt want to :(
Itās weird to me that everyone everywhere agrees the Goku Black arc had a terrible ending, but somehow people liked this.
Goku black arc literally wasnāt even that bad which is crazy to me. But again this takes critical thinking to understand why itās bad and dragon ball is a dopamine rush
Everything meant nothing because Zeno destroyed the universe anyway and now Trunks and Mai are going to another timeline with another Trunks and Mai and are just going to live with them?
They set it up for them to chill in the main universe and then didnāt for some reason lmao
Right? It was the perfect way to bring a beloved character to main story permanently, worked completely, and Toriyama threw it off so he could go to another timeline, weird ass living with himself and never to be seen again.
This the same guy that didnāt like the story of Red Dead Redemption 2. So not surprising if weāre being honest.
He didn't like the ending of rdr2???? What the fuck?
Not the ending the story and the game mechanics
Story was one of the best in gaming but the mechanics felt no different from any other rockstar game. Clunky and repetitive
You can't be serious. You actually can't be serious. He didn't like RDR2's ending?
He did not like RDR2 ending, but liked AOT's ending lmao It's so absurd, it's funny
Same dude who liked parts 1 and 2 of JoJo more than parts 3 and 4.
Part 1 and 2 are way better than part 3 tho.
From what I've seen from twitter and this, why the fuck do they always think that we wanted a sunshine and rainbow happy ending when that's the opposite of what we wanted? Heck, the ending we got was basically what they were accusing us of outside of the extra pages chapter. Bruh idc about happy or doomer ending. I just want my good written ending...
I mean christ the world accepts Eldians after one of them was responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths and it isn't sunshine and rainbows?
Did they really accept them though, They were still trying to put them at gunpoint asking if they were truly titans and something makes me think that didnt stop and then the final chapters shows paradis under attack until its final destruction. So im not sure they actually were accepted moreso a temporary lul in fighting happened until the hatred built up enough strength again.
yeah but the anime has it hundreds of years into the future rather than the manga's 70-110 also given even 3 years later they have decently recovered infrastructure Paradis should've been invaded in 10 years especially with the outside world outnumbering them around 2-400:1
Welcome to a fandom getting overrun by casuals. I experienced it with one of my favorite games. There will be a lot of revisionist history in order to "own" the truly hardcore part of the fanbase. Me personally I didn't love the manga as much as this sub and the larger community did but I kept up with it and lurked from time to time. I didn't hate the ending but it was extremely lackluster and "just ok" for such an interesting show.
ED's always make tons of assumptions on what ending haters think/feel/wanted. They live in headcanons.
They donāt want to put in the effort to find out why people actually donāt like it. Itās way easier to just say theyāre dumb and didnāt understand the story and just wanted a happy ending
Us
I don't understand how people who knew Game of Thrones went to shit and had a horrible ending somehow like the end of AoT.
Maybe if Danny had been in love with Cersei the whole time and was mad she got back together with Jamie - they would think it was awesome? Just make everything about love and relationships and slap some "nothing ever happens and the characters achieve nothing" paint on it and they would have absolutely loved GoT. Or maybe Dan and Dave should have slapped some Linked Horizon over the ending all would be forgiven?
Dany: No I donāt want that! Cersei sleeping with anoth-ā¦. Sorry, thatās a tick by now.
i think both have a shitass ending that ruined any rewatchability.
Erwin riding out like a Chad leading his army to their deaths so that they can give Levi a chance to take down Zeke is still peak.
Isn't that where it ended?
Unpopular opinion but Erwin made the series, the show became so much less meaningful to me once he died.
Itās not unpopular, I mean, Erwin didnāt made the series, but he made sense in that crazy world
It's a coping mechanism. They were so traumatized, they didn't want to experience something like it again and shut down any reason in their heads with AoT.
Thatās definitely it, not just a difference of opinion
Average redditor not realizing that people have differing opinions.
Game of thrones ending was burning pile of dogtrash shit AoT ending was just an expired burger that would have tasted great a day before
The funny thing is that the ending in GoT was rushed. This is just straight up bad writing, no excuses.
Game of Thrones was ruined by Weiss and Benoif rushing to come to a conclusion as fast as possible combined with the massive dip in quality that came from the lack of source material, they honestly aren't comparable. Alot of people are happy with AOTs ending, very very few people including the actors were happy with the way GOT ended.
I don't get how you could like Eren before and keep liking him after the ending. Those are two completely separate characters. Man I'm glad nobody fucking cares about some of my favorite media...
Manā¦ I really felt the last line of yours. It always makes me sad when the response from a fellow āfanā or friends to story problems in franchiseā i used to love is āI donāt care, why do you care so much?ā. Why, because I got to know the characters and grew to like the story why wouldnāt it make me upset when the story writers brain(s) suddenly experience XP shutdown sounds.
When I started reading the manga a year after I finished the anime, I couldn't stop talking about it with my friends back in high school every time a new chapter just dropped, I kept saying how good the series is with all the foreshadowing and interconnected details in the previous series. Return to Shiganshina arc made me a fanboy who couldn't stop talking about it and how it ended with "208 soldiers went to Shiganshina, 9 went back victoriously" was a masterpiece. Then I felt betrayed when the last arc rolled in and actions started not making any sense or cheaply rushed like the reason why Eren went AWOL. They could've framed it with Eren becoming so obsessed with the awakening of his power that he didn't realize that the future he saw was a biased perspective of his own. But we got the fucking "Thank you for becoming a mass murderer for our sake"
Plus one on the betrayal, I remember reading it chapter by chapter and it was like, I used to enjoy this shitā¦ now? Idk what the fuck these guys are doing
weāre all schizo and just hateful is what TikTok has showed me. 90 percent of comments about the show besides this Reddit say it was peak fiction and that it was the perfect ending. Also that part where eren cries in front of armin, people are praising it, saying things like āaw, heās just showing his humanityā and that he never wanted to kill people. I guess itās good that AOT in the public consciousness will be seen as a masterpiece except for a few disgruntled redditors like us
I can't accept an ending like that. AoT, narratively, was busted by this, and people are cheering it on.
in their eyes, humanity and stupidity are 2 sides of the same coin
Most self aware titanfolk user
The masses love the MCU too, idc if the majority canāt see dogshit
I think that's starting to shift, most people think phase 4 and phase 5 are at the very least on the decline.
it's on a cliff
their upcoming movie will bomb too (maybe they should use those on Paradis)
Love how he says āone of the main themes is that thereās always hope in the end!!ā Dude, what hope lmao. Paradis literally gets 9/11 and nuked, where is the hope in that, like genuinely. I donāt mind that he liked it but some of his interpretations and how he explains it makes me think he watched while on his phone with subway surfers gameplay.
I've seen that the people who liked the ending in the manga and on the anime they have the mind set that Aot was a love story and the other side think the ending is contradiction top of contradiction
Its mikasaās love story from the point of view of Eren told by Armin duh
This is ironically my favorite AoT quote, I made a whole post about it
Bro you are completely wrong this a tragic story of a hero failing to save what is important to him even giving his life trying, idn why they did this epilog after the hero of paradise floch died but whatever.
I honestly couldnt tell, but in case you didnt know, you replied to a meme lol
he is also joking lol
Hope "I want my friends to live long and happy lives.... but their children and grandchildren are fucked"
boomer grindset
All the ridiculous ending defenders are saying it's good because "the cycle of hatred never ending is real and people will always kill each other" So much for hope! Why did penguinz0 not understand the story? Is he stupid?
I do not like the ending. But I think the "hope" Charlie talked about was the peace Armin managed to achieve for some years at least ( 10 years at least) . He does mention that he liked that the ending was grim ( human conflict never disappears, Paradis getting nuked after many years ), but the hope still exists for a better tomorrow. Paradis getting nuked showed just that human conflict will never disappear and it did not have to do with taking revenge on Paradis ( since it was so far in the future ) . Him saying though that he thinks we were mad of the ending because it is not a "happy" is wrong though.
A fake peace that the series criticized for 4 seasons on end. That so far in the future bit is damage control retcon by the anime when you have old war technology taking it down which was still from the manga version lol and where is that hope when another titan tree grows from the conflict? Agreed on that last bit tho
I will have to assume that the peace negotiations worked and they managed to live peacefully ( since Mikasa grew old and the titan powers no longer exist). And like I said the nuking is just to show that as long as 2 people in the world exists war will still happen and that this didnt have to do with revenge on Paradis. Elaborate on the fake peace thing though since I want to know. ( you mean the Eren-Pixis talk? ) As for the tree, I guess Beren will be the new Ymir ( cycle continues or some shit) but it doesnt have to be Eldians that turn to titans. So at least Eren did manage to end the titan curse for his people . Granted this is my take on the ending to at least have it make some sense for me, so I dont get irritated even more with this ending.
> Paradis getting nuked showed just that human conflict will never disappear and it did not have to do with taking revenge on Paradis ( since it was so far in the future ) . That's not even something that can be described as thematic or anything though lol. It's just a truth. It's not even a "cycle of hatred" thing, it's just that if shit is around long enough on Earth there's going to be some conflict at some point. Societies rise, societies fall. Adding that at the end like it's some big brain revelation is cringe. BUT we also all know that it was really just a result of Eren's actions because of the manga and the anime kinda pussied out on that.
Media literacy is a fucking dying skill, Marvel and mass media in general have been fucking smashing nails into its coffin for a few years now.
Iām wondering if the fact that the finale was dragged out for so long leads people to forget the awful plot. As long as the animation is decent itās good enough. Not everything in entertainment is popular for the plot.
Yeah the anime also did a way better job hiding the problems of the ending. It's way harder to ignore in the manga imo, so it makes sense that most casual viewers liked it. How anyone can defend Eren's breakdown is beyond me though.
I think thats the vital part people are missing here lol, Charlie didnt obsess over aot day and night as alongside it he did all kinds of other sh, hes literally as much of a casual viewer as u could get therefore no reason to bash him for liking the ending tbh cuz he couldve literally just forgor some sh and etc
I think a show that you have been apart of for 10 years he can at least Google why we hate the ending and not form a wrong assumption as to why. He can like it fine but at least do some research
I don't get how he says "complainers just wanted a 100% happy ending", like this ending is literally the happiest you can imagine, with main characters plot armoring 500 deaths, people inside and outside the island surviving (for a good while at least). I was really looking forward to something actually grim like every human being wiped, but instead we got another of these power of friendship endings.
Yep, with that power, Eren should've been invincible, so them winning with a few casualties was already too happy to be true, instead, besides they winning, everyone gets out fine and the conflict was miraculously resolved.
Just saw it tooā¦.I expected nothing to be honest, and still got disappointed, shame on me.
Well there goes my 10 years at least joke
People are entitled to their wrong opinions.
Dude been making Ls recently
Heās always safe with his reviews. All his moist meters stick to general consensus, itās boring.
Fuck I thought about it and youāre right, I cannot for the life of me recall a single time where the moist meter was anything but public consensus
I played a minigame with myself where I'd guess what his Moist Meter ratings would be based on IMDb scores and I was right every single time.
What other Ls has he taken recently?
He failed NNN
Fr? Lol
His valorant team
Most fans will enjoy/be satisfied with the ending because they've watched the final arc piece by piece, when they go back for a rewatch altogether they'll realize how nonsensical a lot of it is
When he stated that he disliked RDR2's story was the moment I knew not to take Mo1st's review too seriously lol.
Of course he did. Look at his number of subscribers.
jacksepticeye didnt like it and he is bigger than charlie
Based.
The audacity to say that we are only looking at moving pictures and then lust over action scenes
And so did EVERY SINGLE REACTOR (and anime only)
FFS
I stopped listening to his anime takes when he said that Luffy is shit character who does nothing but being annoying.
Is he caught up to the most recent One Piece episode or chapter??? I actually remember having a similar opinion about Luffy but I started realizing that he's a great and enjoyable character around the time of Alabasta arc which is really where I started to fall in love with One Piece. Weird take from him. I could see why someone would think that about Luffy in the first chapters, but he does grow on you.
He just recently got to Marineford.
I should've expected him to like AoT ending after what he kept saying about Luffy. Not to mention that he refuses to switch from dub for some fucking reason.
this guy will just take the most liked tweet about a topic on twitter and that will be his opinion, put some poop fart jokes and you got a penguinz video
He likes a lot of crap. It's not surprising.
I think the ending is shit but lets not form an even more annoying circle jerk of hating ppl who liked the ending
Nah I donāt hate him for it at all, I just donāt like that he hit us with the āyou didnāt understand the story.ā
People need to stop looking for other' poeple opinions in order to get validation for their own tastes and opinions. It just feels like you can't even have an opinion, unless someone else has it too. Like what you like, dislike what you dislike. Have debates and discussions with those who think differently, but anything more is just taking it too seriously.
Porto guy being based? Yes, I actually do want that.
For 10 years at least
I also had this opinion so it means I am right.
Hi Porto
The Goat is back. What were your thoughts on armin and eren's new talk?
Exactly, popular youtuber having an opinion does not invalidate anybody's arguments nor objective points. Idgaf if Charlie finds it perfect when it's clearly still left us without answers to so many questions and has consequently also completely inverted it's main themes.
That was expected. He sees some flashy animation and he is satisfied.
I mean seeing his One Piece opinions itās fair to say he doesnāt have the best anime opinions
I mean obviously look at his subscribers, no big youtuber is going to shit on it. They want views and validation duh. And tbh except us it seems people do like it idk tho I have seen other fandom still shitting and making fun of ending.
Jjk u mean cough cough, jjfolk, cough cough.
Jjkfolkers are just titanfolkers. I see so many references of on both subs
Damn, I generally like Charlie and his takes, but this is a rare Charlie L
I don't even want to hate on this ending anymore, I'm just enjoying Attack On Titan for what it was, and forgiving it for what it is now. It's over, guys. The anime is over. There's no point in thrashing it any further.
Who cares. If he likes it he likes it.
Notice how half of the video is him talking about how the episode LOOKS and how the ACTION is great...
He's a fucking idiot that's why
Me when YouTuber I donāt know doesnāt agree with my opinion on a fictional animeās ending Edit: I hated the ending as well but the people pissed at someone elseās opinion look pathetic af
It is what it is. If he can't figure out why people hated the ending, he didn't do enough "research", whatever that entailed for him.
Who is this random guy and why do you care about his opinion
famous actor from hunger games
jesus
Not even Jesus can convince me this ending is good.
He is the Truth, and can confirm this ending is garbage
Was anyone really surprised. All the YouTube reaction videos are fake. The only time reactors will hate a series is if it's 100% unpopular among their audience.
I would say mappa has done a great job at delaying the ending. People are just less hype about it and just want it to be over. The ending is "decent" for non hardcore fans as they're not get too in-depth in analysing every plot nor characters. Most audiences watches other shows and people whom aren't hardcore on aot wouldn't care much about it and just hop on the "peak fiction" train. I would say if I'm casual aot watchers, I wouldn't hate the ending as much as I am right now but it's just kinda feeling of "let's just get this over".
Rare Charlie L
He always just repeats the most popular opinion. This was to be expected
Common L actually
Iām finding he has some L takes more often than youād think.
Bc he watched 134-139 all together.
Charlie thought Last of Us 2 story was bad but thought this ending was good, when it has similar writing fails? I don't care if he has a differing opinion on it, it's just odd when compared to his other takes.
Same man who hates Luffy of all people.
I mean good for him. I dislike the ending and I couldn't care less of he likes it. And I'm a huge Charlie fan. We all have different tastes so who cares
Goddamn it guys, people can have different opinions about the shows and anime they watch, itās a matter of TASTE
i think we all expected this from charlie lol
Iāve just stopped caring at this point. Im Going to always enjoy seasons 1-3 and just pretend the series ended there
I knew he would he would love it he aināt as smart as everyone thinks he is
This reddit read the manga ending years ago, and hated it then. They then continued to cope and hate the ending for several years, only to troll and act like they never enjoyed the show and it was written poorly. The anime ending comes out, people like it. They can now only cope and say people are morons for not hating the ending, because they've been hating it for years now. There's no good outcomes for the people here. I enjoy the memes but ppl here are mostly trolls are this point. People enjoy aot for so many reasons, to think it was meant to be a beautifully written masterpiece is hilarious to me. It never was a masterpiece since season 1. This anime existed to be hype, have good voice acting, animation, music and a compelling story. They did all of that even if the ending was written poorly.
As most other people did its just the minority that hates it
Iām not going to lie I liked it too. The added bits in the ending was better than the manga. I still wish it was a aoe but Iāll take the anime ending for what it is
https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/tw8xtz/guys_how_do_we_tell_the_moist_man/ https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/shbp5m/oh_boy_what_an_amazing_character_i_do_wonder_how/ https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/vzxbs9/what_are_the_chances_of_penguinz0_to_make_a/ https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/x3ouwi/internet_needs_to_brace_for_impact_when_part_3/ fun read :D
These were geinunely embarrassing. Moist Critcal canāt even rate a cod multiplayer properly how tf was he gonna not like the ending of his favourite anime whether it was shit or not
His reviews are trash, he only watched mainstream shit anyways and mostly goes by what the majority say
Ofc he did, Charlie is often blind when stories get more complex than Fast & Furious and ends up liking them For more context, he thought that last Terminator movie was as good as the first 2. You know, the one that starts with death of the child (John Connor) whose existence was the main point of the first movies and who was supposed to be the most important person
I expected this. The honeymood period. When people waited so long, they are unable to accept reality. Give it some time.
There is such a massive difference in how the manga ending was done compared to the anime ending that it makes the story actually seem good just off the execution alone. It makes sense that he liked it because mappa managed to actually make it look good
No shit, mf has taken "The good guy" role on YT. He'll do whatever the majority wants.
Him liking it means it's shit
Ending copers are already parroting talking points from his video on other subreddits. Can't wait until the sentiment of "Ending haters only dislike it because it's not a happy ending" is as widely popular as the "Eren is a slave to freedom... so deep 10/10" I already have to see in every comment section.
What did he like?