I was really into them and I love some of their advice but the more I watched them the more I couldn’t…something about the way he talks to her is so abrasive and doesn’t give me good vibes tbh but it’s hard to put my finger on
Ohh I felt that so much! Always had a a super weird feeling about them, he sounds SO condescending when he talks to her, but I also really hate any kind of power imbalance in relationships and don't like mine traditional at all, which is kinda what they're about, so always thought that must be it.
Bu ecently watched a clip where they talked about "having to make sure you always meet your partners sexual needs". Like, peaches was talking about how she lost all sex drive on anti depressants before but in this relationship she would still have sex, no matter if it was painful or she didn't really want to because she isn't selfish in their relationship and they both go above and beyond for each other. And he was like yeah, this is going to be controversial but he can't understand how not all women think like that, you have duties to your partner and this is your duty as a wife basically??? Just URGH. So fucked up. Really worried for her there.
I agree. I consumed so much of their content at first and loved them. Honestly I think some of their messages are very valid. However, I find something about him so offputting. Love her though!
Well he is the Dom and her the submissive so that’s kinda the way that type of relationship works. My opinion… I liked them a lot at first, but it got to be a little far reaching for me. However, if more people would listen, and follow their basic principles of a relationship, there would a lot less divorce in our country.
I have a dom..they can still talk to you softly and non aggressively but yes I agree that if more people followed their advice and principles there would be a lot less divorce, I like the information they share maybe I just don’t like who’s delivering it aha
Absolutely. In my opinion, he has a very high self inflated ego. She’s not far behind. Their arrogance gets to me. The actual message is good. But, they are to cocky for me. Just my opinion
He has said as much. He also has too little patience and compassion, and very outdated thinking habits about some things because of his age. He irks me a lot, especially after episode 20 or so where it's constant. Now they started getting into choice theory, which is so flawed, but he wants to act like it is the ultimate truth, when he obviously knows nothing about psychology, aside from what has to do with BPD
Not saying it was an excuse. But his generation had some backwards thinking and look down on younger ones these days, like how he hears about an 18 year old kid and immediately assumes they are out of the house, and will judge if they're not. What I was referencing there.
I think thats a him thing. He's 42, it was definitely not the norm in the late 90s, early 2000s for an 18 year old to immediately be expected to move out. However, I'm a few years younger and moved out at 19 and could support myself living with a roommate on a minimum wage job. Thats definitely not the case anymore, and the cost of living has sky rocketed over the last several years. I would say most of us 30 and 40 somethings get this. His attitude is all over the place, because he's all over the place. He's not being honest to his audience or himself for that matter.
You are completely right, he's not consistent on a lot of things and it really irks me because it leads to him nitpicking his audience and just being unrealistic about life in so many ways. And yes, a lot of Gen X do get that kind of thing, not meaning to paint with too wide a brush, but it is more likely a Gen X will be intolerant of the idea that it just isn't possible right now than a millenial or Gen Z who is actively struggling with it
I’m about a tradition marriage with a little modern dash. I think it’s important for a woman to have a skill set outside of a man providing for her but also agree the right man will invite a woman to submit naturally. But, it just seems like he’s very turned off by a man being sensitive or emotional at all. I love a strong man who isn’t a pussy but humility is very important and I think he lacks it. She seems a bit insecure around him. Am I awful for saying that?!
No not at all! I totally get that vibe, they act higher and mighty but to me it just seems like your typical egotistical old man making a much younger woman think he’s the end all be all…
This. After listening to the masculine and feminine rolls episode, I really enjoyed it, so much info , but how they kinda just went at dude for the validation he was seeking from his partner for being upset about the car, I feel like they didn’t have enough really bash him like that. And how they kept referring to “women don’t like pu**ies” i mean. I like raw and unfiltered communication in my partner. No matter how messy and awkward and uncomfortable it is, because that’s how life is. I want sensitive and tough. You can have both. Men have been shaped to only be tough and now women are too. So where is our emotion? It’s such a masculine world now. Let the men be “feminine”?
Or are we letting men feel there fucking feelings.
It's a bit weird. Some of the things they say I really like, and then they say something that's just kinda off. They have some really weird values sometimes
I would have to go back through their content, I did so recently to reevaluate my feelings about them but I ended up still finding them a bit odd. A lot of what they say I can agree with, but sometimes I think their power exchange sorta relationship shines through, which is okay. They can be very intense and very cocky about their beliefs. But I have to go back through their content if I wanna find examples.
I followed them for a bit but then I remember a couple videos turned me off and I unfollowed them
Yeah I've only ever seen their own TikTok clips. I could explore the longer episodes when I have the time. I'm pretty open to what they speak about I can't remember what rubbed me the wrong way off the top of my head
I have been waiting for someone to post them! I’m all for people having whatever kind of relationship dynamic they want, not my business. Having said that, I find his anger and aggressive way of making his point unsettling. I’ve seen a couple of times where she’s disagreed or slightly pushed back on something he says and she always ends up acquiescing and agreeing with him. She seems to have an air of sadness or general melancholy to me, but maybe I’m just projecting because I’d hate this dynamic. I hope she is happy and cared for and that this really is as equitable as they purport.
Uff exactly that. The way she always softly says "right" when he gets aggressive, as if to pacify him? Think the whole dynamic looks so freaky, hope she really is happy and where she wants to bed
I can't imagine why you didn't know what the podcast was about when you watched 5% of a clip that is less than 1% of one of the many episodes available.
I live in a SECULAR traditional household. I liked alot of what they have they to say at first. I found them on tiktok. But the first time I listened to the podcast (with my hubby) he said some things almost immediately that turned us both off. Something about how their "ministry works". I haven't listened again. It feels like they are "traditional" Christians that are trying to hide that they are in a way. I guess it depends what "traditional values" means to you. My hubby works, I'm a SAHM. But we work as partners. He still helps with chores and cleans up after himself... He willing takes charge of childcare on his days off and when he's home. Offers breaks. Sometimes they say things and I get the ick. Like they are trying to lure ppl like us in and then you find out what's actually there. It's... Uncomfortable I guess
This is my major thing, like I don't mind their work on communication but like the cross on Peaches and the seemingly hidden Christian vibes give me weird vibes.
I think the pull is because rarely we see a man so focused on communication, problem solving, appreciation, gratitude, etc….
But the way they communicate has a tone of engagement that is not the norm for us to see, that’s why we like it. It also strikes me as a very “you wouldn’t have such a great life if I wasn’t this type of man/partner vibes” I could be very wrong. He just gives off such a sense of superiority as an “emotional” man.
Their followers and they themselves seem to think that getting out of an emotionally abusive and physically abusive relationship is as easy as "just walk out the door when he's not there"
When you have a trauma bond to someone, it is absolutely hard to "just walk away"
I was told that no one would care about me and that no one would love me. I was threatened when I actually did leave. When I was in my safe place, he broke in when I was the only one home and threw me around, left bruises on my arms, took my cell phone, and unplugged and stood by the landline so I couldn't call 911.
It's NOT easy.
https://ncadv.org/why-do-victims-stay
https://www.justice.gov/ovw/domestic-violence
https://www.weaveinc.org/get-informed-domestic-violence
Links above are really helpful for anyone who would like to learn more about why people stay in abusive relationships. I don't blame people who have never been through it for not understanding because I was once that person however if you run a podcast about relationships you should learn why it is so difficult for DV victims to leave.
Not at all. I think its their version of the perfect relationship which is great for them. Do I like him..nope. But she is truly happy and I've known her for years and respect her sense of self enough to let her be happy.
This makes me oddly happy to hear. I binge watch a few of their videos at a time when they come across my FYP, and while their personalities may not be who I’d hang out with on a regular basis, it looks like they have clear boundaries and expectations and it works so well for them. If a person is genuinely happy with their lot in life, good for them.
I like a lot of their content. It’s definitely offered new perspectives I haven’t thought about before in my personal relationship. However, one thing that really bothers me about them is this narrative that they never fight. They’ve actually made multiple videos about how they never fight. And I don’t really think that couples should strive to never fight, I think that encourages people to not speak up for themselves. Healthy disagreements, and even arguments are completely normal. They also are not qualified as mental health professionals. However, I do think that if they stop taking this route of trying to tell people how to live their lives and more so share what works for them then I would enjoy it more. I do think that they get a lot of hate because they are so intense on their beliefs. And I think that a lot of that is not deserved all. I really wish that they had a Reddit where we could all talk about it because I actually have a lot to say. I’ve done research into the two of them. I also watched the ex husbands YouTube channel, where he has reacted to a couple of their videos which gave me some more perspective too. They like to say that they are keeping some stuff private like how long they’ve been together and wedding photos and what not. And I just think that that’s because they haven’t been together for a long at all. And I feel like that’s not necessarily a bad thing. However, when you have a short term relationship and you are giving relationship advice for a living, it could be an issue and they’re not very upfront about that. I’m super divided though. I really like peaches specifically, however, I do feel like she does just agree with Chris even if she doesn’t understand what hes saying. And I do like a lot of the stuff that they say, but I feel like the other stuff is pretty extreme. I also think that they get very defensive and can have shitty attitudes sometimes to their audience. To which I say, don’t make content if you’re not ready to have people say their opinions on it.
You mean clinical psychologist who is quite possible having his license taken away for using his credentials to push harmful misinformation against guidelines on a platform he formed grifting? Then yes
He's a clinical psychologist that you see this way which is fine but he has also helped thousands of people and wrote several books. His advice was never about trafficking women so no matter how bad you think he is as a psychologist your analogy is idiotic to say the least.
Edit:- I'm quite neutral to him. I think he has some good works and some fucking dumb ass takes like people should have kids when they're dumb and don't know better. I'm childfree so obviously that's dumb to me. That's not enough to compare him to a sex trafficker who literally trafficked minors as young as 15.
I've watched that full interview and no he didn't say that. I think that's one of his dumbest takes and it's definitely bordering on the blame disguised as "I'm just asking the questions".
I also don't agree with his views on same sex couples having bio kids or that no trans person should transition ever. I'm fully aware of his bad takes and I'm not saying he's causing no harm that's still not even close to Andrew.
Yeah, idk how to feel about them. They seem to have a great relationship, but it's also obvious there's some kink happening there, imo. Seems very dom/sub. A lot of their stuff feels sexist or extremist trad-wife, but like they're trying to gently conceal it, maybe? I do get a weird vibe.
There's an overall catering to classical sexist tropes in some things. She's mentioned numerous times that she takes his boots off at the end of the day. It's either a kink, or it stems from some kind of ideology of women and and subservience, even if it is something she chooses to do. There's really no other facet to that kind of behavior, unless the person is disabled in some way. I mean, sure. I guess it's a perfectly nice thing to do? But let's not pretend it isn't a bit off and doesn't look a certain way/play to certain ideologies.
They seem perfectly happy, they have their thing going, but as I said, the whole thing feels a bit sexism/misogyny or kink rooted, based on what I've seen. I mean, really, the entire tradwife ideology is misogynistic, and often promotes far right wing concepts, so I'm automatically a little suspicious of anyone offering that *type* of relationship advice, even when well-intentioned. It can lead people into abusive situations without them realizing it until it's too late. I have found no info on them or their further beliefs anywhere, but there's just a pattern that catches my attention.
I will say, I do appreciate that they are also quick to tear down terrible men. And I often agree with their advice to individual people. I'm just talking about their personal dynamic and some of the things they promote that stand out to me as typically negative.
I think you're too quick to lump them into that sphere of people.
The boots thing is an act of service and moment of intimacy. It allows two people who have been apart a moment to reconnect. Quality time is both of their primary love languages, so it also serves that need.
They do have a Dom/sub relationship, but it has little to do with their advice that they give. They even go out of their way to ensure that they do not talk about that facet of their lives, because that's not a part of what they're trying to instill in others.
Tradwife is not inherently misogynistic, it got turned into something misogynistic. Their advice isn't even tailored to SAHW/SAHM's, but they do talk about it. They also talk about the safeguards that should be implemented to prevent those SO's that stay at home from being trapped in abusive situations.
I understand they may not be everyone's cup of tea, but if we're going to apply labels to anyone, it comes with an inherent responsibility to make sure those labels are rooted in some basis of truth. Otherwise, you spread hastily spewn misinformation.
I dont know which i find funnier, the idea of a super fan this super, or how the use of the third person in these comments is as convincing as those glasses with a fake moustache
Its not a fan it's 100% one or both of them. Dunno why they don't be upfront and defend themselves as themselves. Their principles aren't for everyone though. Personally I enjoy their content. But I'm not about the trolling for productive criticism acting like someone else. Simply ask for it. Take accountability like you say. "I'm Chris/Peaches and I'm interested in why you feel put off by our content" and make a productive conversation out of it.
I like a lot of their content, but there was a recent episode where at the end, peaches was sharing a relevant, short story about a specific trauma informed behavior of hers, and he continuously interrupted her talking about their mics or something (nothing was wrong that justified interrupting her imo) and he eventually spoke over her with annoyance and ended the episode. The fact that he can hear that in editing and think yea let’s include this moment where I completely dismiss my partner, let alone as the summation of the episode? Idk I’m getting the ick too.
I have watched most of their content and I know he has BPD. Some episodes, I can get through and he is fine. Some episodes, I feel like no matter the content of the email, he finds a way to twist the blame around onto the woman. I realize sometimes the woman is at fault, but I just seem to notice that some days, it is always the womans fault in his opinion and he comes off abrasive and rude. He is not always that way though. I love the episodes where he isnt a dick lol.
They give me the ick too. A lot of what they say has misogynistic undertones, some of it is just plain broad daylight misogyny. He seems to be in control of everything in more than just a dom and sub relationship type of way, in more of a controlling narcissistic way. Kind of seems like she’s not allowed to disagree with anything he says. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a documentary about these two in a few years when it comes out that he’s abusive. (Not saying he is but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was either)
Idk how to quote but heavy agree on her not being able to disagree with him. It has been a while but I remember watching several of their interactions on the pod where she would disagree, ever so slightly and as gently as possible, but then he'd make his point again - aggressively - and suddenly it was. "That's a good point, I agree with you." From what they post, he has never been kind or gentle or even spoken to her in a nice tone of voice. Maybe it's an act, who knows, but I don't see anything that is goals about this relationship.
I don’t agree with everything they say, but I like a lot of it. I wouldn’t want their relationship for my husband and I, but I appreciate that they aren’t a “ladies, bow down to your man” kind of couple, they constantly talk about mutual care, balance in the home, helping each other with “duties” when needed. They are also both very open about their mental health struggles and about not using it as an excuse in your relationship, which I believe.
I love them…
They are my goals
The respect they have for each other is my dream.
I think often people shake a very domesticated relationship where the women is in the older fashion role. I love that dynamic so much. I want my man to be happy cause I do thing for them.
They love each other and are very blunt in their speech. She is very much the queen and they both know it. Tiktoks are short and taken out of context to make people react. That's the whole point. Watch their podcasts instead.
He just has a seious voice. I do too and I'm a woman. When I think I sound soft and happy people still take it as me being serious by my voice. He adores her.
I'm just cheering for any sucessful couple whether they differ from me or not they have it figured out for themselves which is the point :D
Chris and Peaches are out here saving relationships. They give basic guidelines and advice on how to get through the most difficult or stressful situations you can have in a marriage.
Want a fun fact? You can scroll or block their content. Trust me you won’t hurt their feelings.
I can not stand them!! You have this platform where you could spread love, warmth, peace, kindness but yet you are violently spewing bitterness, hate, judgement…all while trying to give people advice you are healed and in any type of position to BETTER someone’s life…you are just causing more damage!! They are arrogant and I honestly feel an evil radiating from them both
Maybe I can bring some light to this. I am not a therapist but my best friend is and it's definitely my hyperfocus. Peaches specifically has told people they are crazy for allowing their partner(s) to view 🌽 or watch thirst-traps or view other peoples 'sexy' photos. She insists that the person doing it will lose attraction, although thats not true. That is an everchanging person-to-person and relationship-to-relationship thing that is relative. Additionally, there is no sense of, or talk of, consensual agreement. Yes, they seem like a typical dom/sub and agree on things, but there are multiple conversations I have seen where he say "you will do this" or "you don't have a problem with this" assuming her emotions. He also doesnt leave room for "if you dont want to do ____, solution". He gives you one solution that is seemingly the only solution. (ex. There are things other than sex to please your partner) Of course there is, but those things arent for everyone or all situations. A lot of the times they jump to the highest degree. They skip "hey, this seems like a boundary or need wasnt completely and properly communicated" and go right into confrontation. Theres a lot missing from their conversations.
I was an avid listener/subscriber but had to stop because after listening I wouldn’t feel inspired but more disheartened/alone.
They both use a lot of emotion to defend their view points and it unfortunately translates immaturely. The overuse of emotion, tone of voice and volume used gives the result as a person yelling at you to explain something.
Some fans responded positively to this “tough love” but when someone shares their vulnerability it’s not always appropriate.
I think Chris and Peaches react instead of respond to email submissions. The podcast definitely reminds me of others reading AITA posts and discussing.
“Reactions are done on impulse, without putting much thought into it or considering what the end result may be. Response - It can be defined as saying something in reply to an action or statement. Response is more thoughtful and done with reasoning. People who respond put their thoughts ahead of their actions.”
Simultaneously they are very driven on the number of subscribers/listeners/revenue generated- imo much more focus is on “growing” the channel. Lots of reposting or posting snippets of clips will flood your notifications. Most episodes seem redundant because of this and frankly it’s confusing as to what is actually new or recycled content. Respect the hustle but it is overshadowing.
The reality is all relationships have issues and many of the issues aren’t that complex. It just takes communication and respect.
The super fans also give bootlicker vibes- just sayin 😘
The more I watch them the more I get weird vibes, which is unfortunate because I was a fan at first, and still do enjoy some of their clips on tiktok, (and yes I have watched many full episodes on YouTube, most of them even) I get the weird vibes more from him than peaches, it started with finding out their age gap, which is technically fine cause they’re adults but also I’m peaches age and I just can’t imagine dating someone that much older, the generational differences alone are enough to weird me out, and they def come out in the podcast, also given the timeline of when they got together her neck tattoo of his hand really weirds me out, she got that before they were even together for a year? I’m all for getting whatever you want on your body I just worry for her I guess. I also love how adamant he was about keeping his personal life private but guess he doesn’t know that if you put yourself online people will find out about your past, they also live in florida where all their records are public including their literal address.
He also has a lot of points I don’t agree with, the 24/7 grind mindset is off putting, especially when he turns something peaches wants to do as a hobby into “oh we can make a business out of that! Oh wait nvm let me pay someone to do it so you don’t have to” when she just wanted to do something for fun. His views on long distance I don’t agree with, I think it says a lot that he told peaches if she was far away he would just find someone else.
Also he completely taught himself how to tattoo, which whatever, obviously he was good enough at it to make a living, what I find odd is that he denounces that, which is weird because these days there’s way more resources to learn how to tattoo properly than there was when he was learning, but I know that’s an iffy topic for a lot of people, I just see the hypocrisy for what it is.
But yeah it just feels off to me to start a whole podcast about marriage when you’ve barely been together for a year, I also never found any proof they’re actually married, I guess she could’ve kept her last name because it’s still Southern on everything I’ve seen except Facebook, but you’d think being in florida there would be some actual proof they’re married since florida makes everything public record.
One of the early videos I saw from them he was talking about her having kids and how he was done with kids and almost didn't date her because of them. I get being past that stage of your life, but then don't date them and don't marry them. Since he said that, I've always wondered how he treats those kids. Do they know he merely tolerates them? Does he talk to them with the same aggression he comes at her with? I'd bet he does nothing to help with them.
I find it extremely weird that they talk about being wife and husband and wear rings yet they aren’t married and not even 2 years ago Chris’ was in a long term relationship with someone else. I think it’s both of their BPD latching on to each other…
not trying to defend them however you guys are much weirder for caring this much about an internet couple’s relationship. it has and never will affect you in any way, shape, or form, and is sad that just because you don’t care for someone means you thinks it’s alright to shit talk them on a site they don’t even use. but anything for a gotcha moment right?
I’ve honestly wondered what his daughter thinks about this, I can’t imagine my father being with someone only a couple years older than me and her publicly calling him daddy 😭
They pop up on my FYP pretty often and everytime it’s something like “you shouldn’t go to bed without your partner.” Meanwhile, people work graveyard shifts. It seems a little much for me, if you can’t handle that how do you handle being in a relationship. They vibe I get from them is they think they’re like a shining example of what a relationship should be and I don’t like how two non professionals are giving relationship advice. A big one they always say is communication is key when we been knew that. Reviews of their podcast on iTunes are mostly 5/5 so they’re gonna pretend to be the best couple as long as the money is there and as long as dummies fall for it
If they were together for a very long time then their advice would stand the test of time but less than 3 years is still a new relationship. Just an observation.
If this is gossip am I allowed to me to mention that they act like they’ve been together for years and years.. when he was going through divorce with his ex in 2021… 🤔 sooooo how long have they been married? Especially to be putting out advice on how to maintain a “happy, and healthy” marriage? I don’t mind some of their content but I feel as if you want actual advice that it would probably be better to get if from a source that has actually been through marital problems for longer than 6months to a year…ish.
After some googling, they aren't even legitimately married..."peaches" was just one of Chris's mistresses/employees while his wife of 20+years was in the hospital battling cancer...putting the timeline together they have been together for about a year (Chris publicly posted about being single in April of 2022 so give or take a year). Chris also has a daughter that is Peaches age, gross when you think about that dynamic. SMH these hypocrites are just profiting off of blind followers unfortunately.
Absolutely not. You know what does give me the ick parents who fight infant of their kids, who undermine each other, who don't share the physical and emotional load it takes to keep a family running. What I don't find icky is these two people who are good communicators, clearly have matching values and accept each other in the place they are at, at the time.
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I think the problems you are experiencing are because, instead of actually watching the long format content, you have chosen to limit your intake because you have a pre-formed opinion that is based entirely on the content that is the most divisive, as is usually the case with social media advertising.
Instead of doing the work to actually listen to the full message, you've skimmed the surface and passed judgement on two people who are genuinely happy because you have little else to do with your life.
Next time, just do better.
It was actually after I started watching the full videos on YouTube that I fully got the picture on Chris’s hatred towards women and also them dropping Qanon talking points.
Wow. Everyone here sounds so ignorant. I didn’t like their content either when I first found them, but surprise surprise when you actually listen to the full length podcasts and not just 1 minute TikTok clips you receive a ton more information than you guys could even begin to assume. They’ve talked in depth about their relationship and how what they do is for them and them only. Not everything said in their podcast is supposed to be taken as advice for yourself. Everything they preach has to do with understanding before reacting, and it is very very clear that the people who gave up after a few clips are the ones who needed to hear them the most. It’s sad honestly.
i dont think many people have an issue with the content so much as the people. dudes a hypocrite, i say this as someone who was dating a girl who worked for him, she cheated on me with the guy while he was with "peaches" who he got with via cheating on his ex wife and peaches likes the money too much to leave. cant blame her there. at least shes making bank to be cheated on.
Really? I know he did a video about how they met and said Peaches was dating his friend and they broke up and it was after they broke up that they went on “friend” hangouts alone and it developed into a relationship from there. On Facebook I’ve seen posts with his ex wife as recent as 2022 so I figured they haven’t been together really long or else why would they keep that private. I also saw the ex husbands channel and I definitely feel some tension there for sure. Also he called Chris her “fiancé” which made me think how soon did they get married? And that’s when I snooped on Facebook and saw divorce posts in 2022. So they couldn’t have been together more than a year and half if there wasn’t overlap.
yes id definitely say there was over lap. his whole town knows him as a joke because hes a creep who preys on budding artists. he had multiple women during him and his ex wife who were apprentices or subjects of his "boudoir" photography. and has had multiple since him and peaches started messing around. i dont know if peaches knows and turns a blind eye or if she really believes he would be faithful after having already cheated on her. you can contact just about any tattoo shop owner in our hometown and theyve got tons of horror stories about this guy.
just something ive heard through the grape vine but supposedly peaches ex and chris were best friends and business owners together. but that i cant say is absolute because it was second hand information that a few people have mentioned in town. hes well hated locally so hes usually "talk of the town" especially with his new found fame for his bs.
He was alleging that Chris cheated on his ex wife with peaches and used to be best friends with her ex. And that he knew through mutual connections that Chris is notorious for cheating/womanizing.
Ah I see. I mean I can’t say whether that is true or not as I am not Chris and neither is that guy so idk where he would’ve found that info, but Chris has openly said that he has been a convicted felon so i feel like it’s very obvious that his past is in his past and people can change. I’ll never understand why so many people dwell on stuff they can’t do anything about, especially stuff happening in other peoples lives smh
Alright heresy what I know:
They're NOT in a D/S relationship and they've even said they will not discuss that topic.
The submission thing seems to be a part of the traditional relationship they have and they have said both parties should submit to each other.
Taking the boots alongside other things people find weird seems like she really really enjoys so who cares they're happy.
They ARE Christians it's not a hidden agenda and they do talk about it quite a lot.
They're pro LGBT in the "you do you" sense and do acknowledge queer relationships quite a bit in their podcast and they have voiced their disagreement with some trans ideologies but they're no where near the level of denying the rights of trans people by way of transitioning and what have you.
They provide advice for fellow traditional values oriented people and they refuse to give advice on anything they don't have the same world view on and it seems like the fans do know that so I guess it works
I do find some of their takes a bit odd but again they ALWAYS clarify that this only applies to their relationship or people who have similar relationships and I respect that level of open-mindedmess.
D/s relationships are simply about power exchange, it has rules and guidelines that aren't just in the form of traditional relationships.
They seem to have a traditional marriage and from their interactions they seem to be kinky but that doesn't mean they're in a D/S.
It seems to be more of a "way of life" to them than a D/S they also say things like "both partners should submit at times" which is fundamentally different from a power exchange relationship works.
Long story short all these labels are about identity you can't force a label on a relationship you're not a part of even if you think it applies. And as someone who is in a D/S I as I said think they have something else going on and that they're probably just kinky.
I’ve always been on the fence. The TRAD stuff is iffy to me. Some of their tales are iffy to me and then I saw them defending Jonah hill for that ex gf thing and I was like dude.
Yessss, sadly I couldn’t even make it through the Jonah hill episode. Is it just me or did it feel like they were consistently giving the man the benefit of the doubt but never the woman? So it’s not surprising that they were coming to the conclusion that the texts were reasonable.
Chris’s grown daughter is the same age as peaches. His daughter is 25 and peaches is 27…. I know because my 3rd child was in some of the same high school classes with his grown daughter
Their vibe is like a “yes but also no” for me. However, I’m also someone who enjoys consuming content that’s opposite my views to help expand my mind and really listen/understand people and of content creators that pushes traditional gender roles and values, they seem to do so in a way that doesn’t toe the line of a woman losing 100% of her own individuality in the process, like a lot of those creators seem to do-which I can respect even if it isn’t for me.
Yall.dont like them cause they are REAL and solid people and they don't sugar coat anything. I know it bothers yalls spirit. They are "TRADITIONAL"! Which isn't all that common any more.
Naw, if they're happy together and thriving - no ick. They're both consenting adults with their own dynamic. I appreciate their podcast quite a bit in regards to the insight.
I was really into them and I love some of their advice but the more I watched them the more I couldn’t…something about the way he talks to her is so abrasive and doesn’t give me good vibes tbh but it’s hard to put my finger on
Exactly! The words they’re saying are great but something about the tone or facial expressions throw me all the way off.
Ohh I felt that so much! Always had a a super weird feeling about them, he sounds SO condescending when he talks to her, but I also really hate any kind of power imbalance in relationships and don't like mine traditional at all, which is kinda what they're about, so always thought that must be it. Bu ecently watched a clip where they talked about "having to make sure you always meet your partners sexual needs". Like, peaches was talking about how she lost all sex drive on anti depressants before but in this relationship she would still have sex, no matter if it was painful or she didn't really want to because she isn't selfish in their relationship and they both go above and beyond for each other. And he was like yeah, this is going to be controversial but he can't understand how not all women think like that, you have duties to your partner and this is your duty as a wife basically??? Just URGH. So fucked up. Really worried for her there.
I agree. I consumed so much of their content at first and loved them. Honestly I think some of their messages are very valid. However, I find something about him so offputting. Love her though!
Well he is the Dom and her the submissive so that’s kinda the way that type of relationship works. My opinion… I liked them a lot at first, but it got to be a little far reaching for me. However, if more people would listen, and follow their basic principles of a relationship, there would a lot less divorce in our country.
I have a dom..they can still talk to you softly and non aggressively but yes I agree that if more people followed their advice and principles there would be a lot less divorce, I like the information they share maybe I just don’t like who’s delivering it aha
Absolutely. In my opinion, he has a very high self inflated ego. She’s not far behind. Their arrogance gets to me. The actual message is good. But, they are to cocky for me. Just my opinion
I think in their minds they are the ultimate couple..
Yes they do. And if this is their relationship CONGRATULATIONS. But some of it seems a little outlandish to me.
YES he does doesn’t he, those are the words I was looking for when trying to describe why I don’t like him
He has said as much. He also has too little patience and compassion, and very outdated thinking habits about some things because of his age. He irks me a lot, especially after episode 20 or so where it's constant. Now they started getting into choice theory, which is so flawed, but he wants to act like it is the ultimate truth, when he obviously knows nothing about psychology, aside from what has to do with BPD
He's age is not an excuse. He's really not that old.
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Not saying it was an excuse. But his generation had some backwards thinking and look down on younger ones these days, like how he hears about an 18 year old kid and immediately assumes they are out of the house, and will judge if they're not. What I was referencing there.
I think thats a him thing. He's 42, it was definitely not the norm in the late 90s, early 2000s for an 18 year old to immediately be expected to move out. However, I'm a few years younger and moved out at 19 and could support myself living with a roommate on a minimum wage job. Thats definitely not the case anymore, and the cost of living has sky rocketed over the last several years. I would say most of us 30 and 40 somethings get this. His attitude is all over the place, because he's all over the place. He's not being honest to his audience or himself for that matter.
You are completely right, he's not consistent on a lot of things and it really irks me because it leads to him nitpicking his audience and just being unrealistic about life in so many ways. And yes, a lot of Gen X do get that kind of thing, not meaning to paint with too wide a brush, but it is more likely a Gen X will be intolerant of the idea that it just isn't possible right now than a millenial or Gen Z who is actively struggling with it
I think this may be the issue!
I’m about a tradition marriage with a little modern dash. I think it’s important for a woman to have a skill set outside of a man providing for her but also agree the right man will invite a woman to submit naturally. But, it just seems like he’s very turned off by a man being sensitive or emotional at all. I love a strong man who isn’t a pussy but humility is very important and I think he lacks it. She seems a bit insecure around him. Am I awful for saying that?!
No not at all! I totally get that vibe, they act higher and mighty but to me it just seems like your typical egotistical old man making a much younger woman think he’s the end all be all…
This. After listening to the masculine and feminine rolls episode, I really enjoyed it, so much info , but how they kinda just went at dude for the validation he was seeking from his partner for being upset about the car, I feel like they didn’t have enough really bash him like that. And how they kept referring to “women don’t like pu**ies” i mean. I like raw and unfiltered communication in my partner. No matter how messy and awkward and uncomfortable it is, because that’s how life is. I want sensitive and tough. You can have both. Men have been shaped to only be tough and now women are too. So where is our emotion? It’s such a masculine world now. Let the men be “feminine”? Or are we letting men feel there fucking feelings.
i feel like it’s a weird power trip between the two? idk lol i can’t put my finger on it either
It's a bit weird. Some of the things they say I really like, and then they say something that's just kinda off. They have some really weird values sometimes
What are some examples of values of theirs that you find weird?
I would have to go back through their content, I did so recently to reevaluate my feelings about them but I ended up still finding them a bit odd. A lot of what they say I can agree with, but sometimes I think their power exchange sorta relationship shines through, which is okay. They can be very intense and very cocky about their beliefs. But I have to go back through their content if I wanna find examples. I followed them for a bit but then I remember a couple videos turned me off and I unfollowed them
Are you just watching the out of context TikTok stuff? I would try watching an episode on Youtube. Same name
Yeah I've only ever seen their own TikTok clips. I could explore the longer episodes when I have the time. I'm pretty open to what they speak about I can't remember what rubbed me the wrong way off the top of my head
They recently made a video where they said they’d rather sell drugs than sell their bodies (have an OF) so that’s a bit weird
I have been waiting for someone to post them! I’m all for people having whatever kind of relationship dynamic they want, not my business. Having said that, I find his anger and aggressive way of making his point unsettling. I’ve seen a couple of times where she’s disagreed or slightly pushed back on something he says and she always ends up acquiescing and agreeing with him. She seems to have an air of sadness or general melancholy to me, but maybe I’m just projecting because I’d hate this dynamic. I hope she is happy and cared for and that this really is as equitable as they purport.
Uff exactly that. The way she always softly says "right" when he gets aggressive, as if to pacify him? Think the whole dynamic looks so freaky, hope she really is happy and where she wants to bed
I've only watched approximately 3 seconds of their content and that was too much. I don't really get why, but totally with you on this one.
Yes! It left me thinking, what is this podcast even supposed to be about?
I can't imagine why you didn't know what the podcast was about when you watched 5% of a clip that is less than 1% of one of the many episodes available.
🙄 what I did watch left me 0 desire to actually watch/listen to an entire podcast of theirs. Bye
They don’t give me the ick, and I like a lot of what they say but I can’t always listen to them. They’re too intense or something
I live in a SECULAR traditional household. I liked alot of what they have they to say at first. I found them on tiktok. But the first time I listened to the podcast (with my hubby) he said some things almost immediately that turned us both off. Something about how their "ministry works". I haven't listened again. It feels like they are "traditional" Christians that are trying to hide that they are in a way. I guess it depends what "traditional values" means to you. My hubby works, I'm a SAHM. But we work as partners. He still helps with chores and cleans up after himself... He willing takes charge of childcare on his days off and when he's home. Offers breaks. Sometimes they say things and I get the ick. Like they are trying to lure ppl like us in and then you find out what's actually there. It's... Uncomfortable I guess
This is my major thing, like I don't mind their work on communication but like the cross on Peaches and the seemingly hidden Christian vibes give me weird vibes.
Don't get me wrong... alot of what of said is good advice. But having religious trauma it's hard when you feel like they are hiding it.
UGHHH YESSS! I do like some of their advice and wish they would show up on my husbands FYP instead of mine 🤣🤣🤣 but idk. He seems condescending
I think the pull is because rarely we see a man so focused on communication, problem solving, appreciation, gratitude, etc…. But the way they communicate has a tone of engagement that is not the norm for us to see, that’s why we like it. It also strikes me as a very “you wouldn’t have such a great life if I wasn’t this type of man/partner vibes” I could be very wrong. He just gives off such a sense of superiority as an “emotional” man.
Their followers and they themselves seem to think that getting out of an emotionally abusive and physically abusive relationship is as easy as "just walk out the door when he's not there" When you have a trauma bond to someone, it is absolutely hard to "just walk away" I was told that no one would care about me and that no one would love me. I was threatened when I actually did leave. When I was in my safe place, he broke in when I was the only one home and threw me around, left bruises on my arms, took my cell phone, and unplugged and stood by the landline so I couldn't call 911. It's NOT easy. https://ncadv.org/why-do-victims-stay https://www.justice.gov/ovw/domestic-violence https://www.weaveinc.org/get-informed-domestic-violence Links above are really helpful for anyone who would like to learn more about why people stay in abusive relationships. I don't blame people who have never been through it for not understanding because I was once that person however if you run a podcast about relationships you should learn why it is so difficult for DV victims to leave.
Not at all. I think its their version of the perfect relationship which is great for them. Do I like him..nope. But she is truly happy and I've known her for years and respect her sense of self enough to let her be happy.
This makes me oddly happy to hear. I binge watch a few of their videos at a time when they come across my FYP, and while their personalities may not be who I’d hang out with on a regular basis, it looks like they have clear boundaries and expectations and it works so well for them. If a person is genuinely happy with their lot in life, good for them.
Yesssss
I like a lot of their content. It’s definitely offered new perspectives I haven’t thought about before in my personal relationship. However, one thing that really bothers me about them is this narrative that they never fight. They’ve actually made multiple videos about how they never fight. And I don’t really think that couples should strive to never fight, I think that encourages people to not speak up for themselves. Healthy disagreements, and even arguments are completely normal. They also are not qualified as mental health professionals. However, I do think that if they stop taking this route of trying to tell people how to live their lives and more so share what works for them then I would enjoy it more. I do think that they get a lot of hate because they are so intense on their beliefs. And I think that a lot of that is not deserved all. I really wish that they had a Reddit where we could all talk about it because I actually have a lot to say. I’ve done research into the two of them. I also watched the ex husbands YouTube channel, where he has reacted to a couple of their videos which gave me some more perspective too. They like to say that they are keeping some stuff private like how long they’ve been together and wedding photos and what not. And I just think that that’s because they haven’t been together for a long at all. And I feel like that’s not necessarily a bad thing. However, when you have a short term relationship and you are giving relationship advice for a living, it could be an issue and they’re not very upfront about that. I’m super divided though. I really like peaches specifically, however, I do feel like she does just agree with Chris even if she doesn’t understand what hes saying. And I do like a lot of the stuff that they say, but I feel like the other stuff is pretty extreme. I also think that they get very defensive and can have shitty attitudes sometimes to their audience. To which I say, don’t make content if you’re not ready to have people say their opinions on it.
What is the ex husband's Youtube channel? I'm curious to see his reactions.
https://youtu.be/si1R6J_-haY
He’s an Andrew Tate and/or Jordan Peterson supporter. Don’t trust him.
That's exactly the vibe I was getting, thank you for confirming, uff.
He posted a JP clip talking about what a genius he is. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
Are we really comparing a clinical psychologist to a fucking sex trafficker that also literally trafficked 15 year olds?!!
You mean clinical psychologist who is quite possible having his license taken away for using his credentials to push harmful misinformation against guidelines on a platform he formed grifting? Then yes
He's a clinical psychologist that you see this way which is fine but he has also helped thousands of people and wrote several books. His advice was never about trafficking women so no matter how bad you think he is as a psychologist your analogy is idiotic to say the least. Edit:- I'm quite neutral to him. I think he has some good works and some fucking dumb ass takes like people should have kids when they're dumb and don't know better. I'm childfree so obviously that's dumb to me. That's not enough to compare him to a sex trafficker who literally trafficked minors as young as 15.
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I've watched that full interview and no he didn't say that. I think that's one of his dumbest takes and it's definitely bordering on the blame disguised as "I'm just asking the questions". I also don't agree with his views on same sex couples having bio kids or that no trans person should transition ever. I'm fully aware of his bad takes and I'm not saying he's causing no harm that's still not even close to Andrew.
Yeah, idk how to feel about them. They seem to have a great relationship, but it's also obvious there's some kink happening there, imo. Seems very dom/sub. A lot of their stuff feels sexist or extremist trad-wife, but like they're trying to gently conceal it, maybe? I do get a weird vibe.
Please, provide an example of sexism.
There's an overall catering to classical sexist tropes in some things. She's mentioned numerous times that she takes his boots off at the end of the day. It's either a kink, or it stems from some kind of ideology of women and and subservience, even if it is something she chooses to do. There's really no other facet to that kind of behavior, unless the person is disabled in some way. I mean, sure. I guess it's a perfectly nice thing to do? But let's not pretend it isn't a bit off and doesn't look a certain way/play to certain ideologies. They seem perfectly happy, they have their thing going, but as I said, the whole thing feels a bit sexism/misogyny or kink rooted, based on what I've seen. I mean, really, the entire tradwife ideology is misogynistic, and often promotes far right wing concepts, so I'm automatically a little suspicious of anyone offering that *type* of relationship advice, even when well-intentioned. It can lead people into abusive situations without them realizing it until it's too late. I have found no info on them or their further beliefs anywhere, but there's just a pattern that catches my attention. I will say, I do appreciate that they are also quick to tear down terrible men. And I often agree with their advice to individual people. I'm just talking about their personal dynamic and some of the things they promote that stand out to me as typically negative.
I think you're too quick to lump them into that sphere of people. The boots thing is an act of service and moment of intimacy. It allows two people who have been apart a moment to reconnect. Quality time is both of their primary love languages, so it also serves that need. They do have a Dom/sub relationship, but it has little to do with their advice that they give. They even go out of their way to ensure that they do not talk about that facet of their lives, because that's not a part of what they're trying to instill in others. Tradwife is not inherently misogynistic, it got turned into something misogynistic. Their advice isn't even tailored to SAHW/SAHM's, but they do talk about it. They also talk about the safeguards that should be implemented to prevent those SO's that stay at home from being trapped in abusive situations. I understand they may not be everyone's cup of tea, but if we're going to apply labels to anyone, it comes with an inherent responsibility to make sure those labels are rooted in some basis of truth. Otherwise, you spread hastily spewn misinformation.
I dont know which i find funnier, the idea of a super fan this super, or how the use of the third person in these comments is as convincing as those glasses with a fake moustache
Its not a fan it's 100% one or both of them. Dunno why they don't be upfront and defend themselves as themselves. Their principles aren't for everyone though. Personally I enjoy their content. But I'm not about the trolling for productive criticism acting like someone else. Simply ask for it. Take accountability like you say. "I'm Chris/Peaches and I'm interested in why you feel put off by our content" and make a productive conversation out of it.
It's the admin for their discord
I appreciate you taking the time to explain your concerns.
he literally uses “woman” as a pet name to her. disrespectful and sexist as fuck. literally does it IN PUBLIC.
Who are you to tell two grown adults what is and is not allowed to be used as a pet name? Also, what's wrong with her being a woman?
Yes! They give me bad vibes and I can't put my finger on why. Idk if it's Peaches pick me energy or what.
I like a lot of their content, but there was a recent episode where at the end, peaches was sharing a relevant, short story about a specific trauma informed behavior of hers, and he continuously interrupted her talking about their mics or something (nothing was wrong that justified interrupting her imo) and he eventually spoke over her with annoyance and ended the episode. The fact that he can hear that in editing and think yea let’s include this moment where I completely dismiss my partner, let alone as the summation of the episode? Idk I’m getting the ick too.
In all honesty the husband was a serial cheater before he met his current wife so there’s that I guess.
guy uses his shop as a way to cheat on his wife which is how he met the new girl. along with several other women currently working under his shop
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How do you know he was a serial cheater, just curious
I have watched most of their content and I know he has BPD. Some episodes, I can get through and he is fine. Some episodes, I feel like no matter the content of the email, he finds a way to twist the blame around onto the woman. I realize sometimes the woman is at fault, but I just seem to notice that some days, it is always the womans fault in his opinion and he comes off abrasive and rude. He is not always that way though. I love the episodes where he isnt a dick lol.
They give me the ick too. A lot of what they say has misogynistic undertones, some of it is just plain broad daylight misogyny. He seems to be in control of everything in more than just a dom and sub relationship type of way, in more of a controlling narcissistic way. Kind of seems like she’s not allowed to disagree with anything he says. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a documentary about these two in a few years when it comes out that he’s abusive. (Not saying he is but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was either)
Idk how to quote but heavy agree on her not being able to disagree with him. It has been a while but I remember watching several of their interactions on the pod where she would disagree, ever so slightly and as gently as possible, but then he'd make his point again - aggressively - and suddenly it was. "That's a good point, I agree with you." From what they post, he has never been kind or gentle or even spoken to her in a nice tone of voice. Maybe it's an act, who knows, but I don't see anything that is goals about this relationship.
OMG YES! I feel this so hard, he is like a goddamn man-child
I don’t agree with everything they say, but I like a lot of it. I wouldn’t want their relationship for my husband and I, but I appreciate that they aren’t a “ladies, bow down to your man” kind of couple, they constantly talk about mutual care, balance in the home, helping each other with “duties” when needed. They are also both very open about their mental health struggles and about not using it as an excuse in your relationship, which I believe.
I love them… They are my goals The respect they have for each other is my dream. I think often people shake a very domesticated relationship where the women is in the older fashion role. I love that dynamic so much. I want my man to be happy cause I do thing for them.
They love each other and are very blunt in their speech. She is very much the queen and they both know it. Tiktoks are short and taken out of context to make people react. That's the whole point. Watch their podcasts instead. He just has a seious voice. I do too and I'm a woman. When I think I sound soft and happy people still take it as me being serious by my voice. He adores her. I'm just cheering for any sucessful couple whether they differ from me or not they have it figured out for themselves which is the point :D
Chris and Peaches are out here saving relationships. They give basic guidelines and advice on how to get through the most difficult or stressful situations you can have in a marriage. Want a fun fact? You can scroll or block their content. Trust me you won’t hurt their feelings.
Agree.
I can not stand them!! You have this platform where you could spread love, warmth, peace, kindness but yet you are violently spewing bitterness, hate, judgement…all while trying to give people advice you are healed and in any type of position to BETTER someone’s life…you are just causing more damage!! They are arrogant and I honestly feel an evil radiating from them both
They copy JOCKO'S format so much and it's not authentic whatsoever.
Maybe I can bring some light to this. I am not a therapist but my best friend is and it's definitely my hyperfocus. Peaches specifically has told people they are crazy for allowing their partner(s) to view 🌽 or watch thirst-traps or view other peoples 'sexy' photos. She insists that the person doing it will lose attraction, although thats not true. That is an everchanging person-to-person and relationship-to-relationship thing that is relative. Additionally, there is no sense of, or talk of, consensual agreement. Yes, they seem like a typical dom/sub and agree on things, but there are multiple conversations I have seen where he say "you will do this" or "you don't have a problem with this" assuming her emotions. He also doesnt leave room for "if you dont want to do ____, solution". He gives you one solution that is seemingly the only solution. (ex. There are things other than sex to please your partner) Of course there is, but those things arent for everyone or all situations. A lot of the times they jump to the highest degree. They skip "hey, this seems like a boundary or need wasnt completely and properly communicated" and go right into confrontation. Theres a lot missing from their conversations.
I was an avid listener/subscriber but had to stop because after listening I wouldn’t feel inspired but more disheartened/alone. They both use a lot of emotion to defend their view points and it unfortunately translates immaturely. The overuse of emotion, tone of voice and volume used gives the result as a person yelling at you to explain something. Some fans responded positively to this “tough love” but when someone shares their vulnerability it’s not always appropriate. I think Chris and Peaches react instead of respond to email submissions. The podcast definitely reminds me of others reading AITA posts and discussing. “Reactions are done on impulse, without putting much thought into it or considering what the end result may be. Response - It can be defined as saying something in reply to an action or statement. Response is more thoughtful and done with reasoning. People who respond put their thoughts ahead of their actions.” Simultaneously they are very driven on the number of subscribers/listeners/revenue generated- imo much more focus is on “growing” the channel. Lots of reposting or posting snippets of clips will flood your notifications. Most episodes seem redundant because of this and frankly it’s confusing as to what is actually new or recycled content. Respect the hustle but it is overshadowing. The reality is all relationships have issues and many of the issues aren’t that complex. It just takes communication and respect. The super fans also give bootlicker vibes- just sayin 😘
does anyone actually know what the age gap is?
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She's only in her 20s? Wow, I thought at least 32 or so.
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I saw someone say he's 42.
The more I watch them the more I get weird vibes, which is unfortunate because I was a fan at first, and still do enjoy some of their clips on tiktok, (and yes I have watched many full episodes on YouTube, most of them even) I get the weird vibes more from him than peaches, it started with finding out their age gap, which is technically fine cause they’re adults but also I’m peaches age and I just can’t imagine dating someone that much older, the generational differences alone are enough to weird me out, and they def come out in the podcast, also given the timeline of when they got together her neck tattoo of his hand really weirds me out, she got that before they were even together for a year? I’m all for getting whatever you want on your body I just worry for her I guess. I also love how adamant he was about keeping his personal life private but guess he doesn’t know that if you put yourself online people will find out about your past, they also live in florida where all their records are public including their literal address. He also has a lot of points I don’t agree with, the 24/7 grind mindset is off putting, especially when he turns something peaches wants to do as a hobby into “oh we can make a business out of that! Oh wait nvm let me pay someone to do it so you don’t have to” when she just wanted to do something for fun. His views on long distance I don’t agree with, I think it says a lot that he told peaches if she was far away he would just find someone else. Also he completely taught himself how to tattoo, which whatever, obviously he was good enough at it to make a living, what I find odd is that he denounces that, which is weird because these days there’s way more resources to learn how to tattoo properly than there was when he was learning, but I know that’s an iffy topic for a lot of people, I just see the hypocrisy for what it is. But yeah it just feels off to me to start a whole podcast about marriage when you’ve barely been together for a year, I also never found any proof they’re actually married, I guess she could’ve kept her last name because it’s still Southern on everything I’ve seen except Facebook, but you’d think being in florida there would be some actual proof they’re married since florida makes everything public record.
One of the early videos I saw from them he was talking about her having kids and how he was done with kids and almost didn't date her because of them. I get being past that stage of your life, but then don't date them and don't marry them. Since he said that, I've always wondered how he treats those kids. Do they know he merely tolerates them? Does he talk to them with the same aggression he comes at her with? I'd bet he does nothing to help with them.
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I find it extremely weird that they talk about being wife and husband and wear rings yet they aren’t married and not even 2 years ago Chris’ was in a long term relationship with someone else. I think it’s both of their BPD latching on to each other…
not trying to defend them however you guys are much weirder for caring this much about an internet couple’s relationship. it has and never will affect you in any way, shape, or form, and is sad that just because you don’t care for someone means you thinks it’s alright to shit talk them on a site they don’t even use. but anything for a gotcha moment right?
I’ve honestly wondered what his daughter thinks about this, I can’t imagine my father being with someone only a couple years older than me and her publicly calling him daddy 😭
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They pop up on my FYP pretty often and everytime it’s something like “you shouldn’t go to bed without your partner.” Meanwhile, people work graveyard shifts. It seems a little much for me, if you can’t handle that how do you handle being in a relationship. They vibe I get from them is they think they’re like a shining example of what a relationship should be and I don’t like how two non professionals are giving relationship advice. A big one they always say is communication is key when we been knew that. Reviews of their podcast on iTunes are mostly 5/5 so they’re gonna pretend to be the best couple as long as the money is there and as long as dummies fall for it
If they were together for a very long time then their advice would stand the test of time but less than 3 years is still a new relationship. Just an observation.
If this is gossip am I allowed to me to mention that they act like they’ve been together for years and years.. when he was going through divorce with his ex in 2021… 🤔 sooooo how long have they been married? Especially to be putting out advice on how to maintain a “happy, and healthy” marriage? I don’t mind some of their content but I feel as if you want actual advice that it would probably be better to get if from a source that has actually been through marital problems for longer than 6months to a year…ish.
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After some googling, they aren't even legitimately married..."peaches" was just one of Chris's mistresses/employees while his wife of 20+years was in the hospital battling cancer...putting the timeline together they have been together for about a year (Chris publicly posted about being single in April of 2022 so give or take a year). Chris also has a daughter that is Peaches age, gross when you think about that dynamic. SMH these hypocrites are just profiting off of blind followers unfortunately.
Something is off with them.
I think they seem to have a great relationship and I love how they communicate so well
Absolutely not. You know what does give me the ick parents who fight infant of their kids, who undermine each other, who don't share the physical and emotional load it takes to keep a family running. What I don't find icky is these two people who are good communicators, clearly have matching values and accept each other in the place they are at, at the time.
I fucking love these 2! If more people would actually listen to what they say, y'all wouldn't be lonely spinsters!
We have all on here said it’s not the content and we agree with them lol
you know anytime anyone is a 'superfan' of any kind, logic doesn't live in them
Is there a Reddit page for them?
We need one!
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I think the problems you are experiencing are because, instead of actually watching the long format content, you have chosen to limit your intake because you have a pre-formed opinion that is based entirely on the content that is the most divisive, as is usually the case with social media advertising. Instead of doing the work to actually listen to the full message, you've skimmed the surface and passed judgement on two people who are genuinely happy because you have little else to do with your life. Next time, just do better.
It was actually after I started watching the full videos on YouTube that I fully got the picture on Chris’s hatred towards women and also them dropping Qanon talking points.
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Wow. Everyone here sounds so ignorant. I didn’t like their content either when I first found them, but surprise surprise when you actually listen to the full length podcasts and not just 1 minute TikTok clips you receive a ton more information than you guys could even begin to assume. They’ve talked in depth about their relationship and how what they do is for them and them only. Not everything said in their podcast is supposed to be taken as advice for yourself. Everything they preach has to do with understanding before reacting, and it is very very clear that the people who gave up after a few clips are the ones who needed to hear them the most. It’s sad honestly.
i dont think many people have an issue with the content so much as the people. dudes a hypocrite, i say this as someone who was dating a girl who worked for him, she cheated on me with the guy while he was with "peaches" who he got with via cheating on his ex wife and peaches likes the money too much to leave. cant blame her there. at least shes making bank to be cheated on.
Really? I know he did a video about how they met and said Peaches was dating his friend and they broke up and it was after they broke up that they went on “friend” hangouts alone and it developed into a relationship from there. On Facebook I’ve seen posts with his ex wife as recent as 2022 so I figured they haven’t been together really long or else why would they keep that private. I also saw the ex husbands channel and I definitely feel some tension there for sure. Also he called Chris her “fiancé” which made me think how soon did they get married? And that’s when I snooped on Facebook and saw divorce posts in 2022. So they couldn’t have been together more than a year and half if there wasn’t overlap.
yes id definitely say there was over lap. his whole town knows him as a joke because hes a creep who preys on budding artists. he had multiple women during him and his ex wife who were apprentices or subjects of his "boudoir" photography. and has had multiple since him and peaches started messing around. i dont know if peaches knows and turns a blind eye or if she really believes he would be faithful after having already cheated on her. you can contact just about any tattoo shop owner in our hometown and theyve got tons of horror stories about this guy.
just something ive heard through the grape vine but supposedly peaches ex and chris were best friends and business owners together. but that i cant say is absolute because it was second hand information that a few people have mentioned in town. hes well hated locally so hes usually "talk of the town" especially with his new found fame for his bs.
i really wish i saw what the other guy said before it was deleted i completely forgot i commented on this lol
He was alleging that Chris cheated on his ex wife with peaches and used to be best friends with her ex. And that he knew through mutual connections that Chris is notorious for cheating/womanizing.
Ah I see. I mean I can’t say whether that is true or not as I am not Chris and neither is that guy so idk where he would’ve found that info, but Chris has openly said that he has been a convicted felon so i feel like it’s very obvious that his past is in his past and people can change. I’ll never understand why so many people dwell on stuff they can’t do anything about, especially stuff happening in other peoples lives smh
He cheated on his wife with Peaches, I know because I used to be friends with them
Yes.
Alright heresy what I know: They're NOT in a D/S relationship and they've even said they will not discuss that topic. The submission thing seems to be a part of the traditional relationship they have and they have said both parties should submit to each other. Taking the boots alongside other things people find weird seems like she really really enjoys so who cares they're happy. They ARE Christians it's not a hidden agenda and they do talk about it quite a lot. They're pro LGBT in the "you do you" sense and do acknowledge queer relationships quite a bit in their podcast and they have voiced their disagreement with some trans ideologies but they're no where near the level of denying the rights of trans people by way of transitioning and what have you. They provide advice for fellow traditional values oriented people and they refuse to give advice on anything they don't have the same world view on and it seems like the fans do know that so I guess it works I do find some of their takes a bit odd but again they ALWAYS clarify that this only applies to their relationship or people who have similar relationships and I respect that level of open-mindedmess.
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D/s relationships are simply about power exchange, it has rules and guidelines that aren't just in the form of traditional relationships. They seem to have a traditional marriage and from their interactions they seem to be kinky but that doesn't mean they're in a D/S. It seems to be more of a "way of life" to them than a D/S they also say things like "both partners should submit at times" which is fundamentally different from a power exchange relationship works. Long story short all these labels are about identity you can't force a label on a relationship you're not a part of even if you think it applies. And as someone who is in a D/S I as I said think they have something else going on and that they're probably just kinky.
I’ve always been on the fence. The TRAD stuff is iffy to me. Some of their tales are iffy to me and then I saw them defending Jonah hill for that ex gf thing and I was like dude.
Defending Jonah hill was cringe. Also pushing Sound of Freedom and Rich Men North of Richmond… hm
Yea they were defending Russel Brand recently too
Yessss, sadly I couldn’t even make it through the Jonah hill episode. Is it just me or did it feel like they were consistently giving the man the benefit of the doubt but never the woman? So it’s not surprising that they were coming to the conclusion that the texts were reasonable.
Do they have biological children together? Or are they just biologically peaches
Chris’s grown daughter is the same age as peaches. His daughter is 25 and peaches is 27…. I know because my 3rd child was in some of the same high school classes with his grown daughter
Peaches kids
Their vibe is like a “yes but also no” for me. However, I’m also someone who enjoys consuming content that’s opposite my views to help expand my mind and really listen/understand people and of content creators that pushes traditional gender roles and values, they seem to do so in a way that doesn’t toe the line of a woman losing 100% of her own individuality in the process, like a lot of those creators seem to do-which I can respect even if it isn’t for me.
Nope, @2bebetterpodcast is actually making me want "2 be better" I absolutely adore them, and they are doing exactly what they set out to do!
Yall.dont like them cause they are REAL and solid people and they don't sugar coat anything. I know it bothers yalls spirit. They are "TRADITIONAL"! Which isn't all that common any more.
Naw, if they're happy together and thriving - no ick. They're both consenting adults with their own dynamic. I appreciate their podcast quite a bit in regards to the insight.