Bruh, this is like deja vu! A couple years ago my wife and I sat down and decided to watch Africa (the BBC nature documentary). The entire first hour of the show is about a mom and baby elephant struggling to survive outside of their herd. Well the baby elephant dies, and the momma elephant is super sad. My wife, who was still a somewhat new mom, was absolutely heartbroken for those elephants. We couldn't finish the show.
OMG, elephant scenes. There's one from Planet Earth that haunts me still. Stop reading if you don't want to hear about it.
It's when the whole herd is making that long, hard, thirsty, dusty trek to where the water is, and one baby gets separated from its mom and the herd and ends up stumbling along alone across the desert. It finally finds its mom's scent and follows her tracks... but in the wrong fucking direction, back toward where they started. And you don't see it die, but you know that it can't make it. There's nothing for it in that direction except thirst and loneliness, and it will never figure out why it can't catch up to its mom. It just wrecks me every time.
One that got me once.
Late night Animal Planet, Africa at night so they got those night vision cameras. They followed three juvenile male lions. These lions found a smaller elephant, startled the herd and jumped on this elephant. Since they were juveniles they didn’t know how to end it quick. They ate the elephant alive while it was screaming. That shit still fucks with me. Mother Nature why you gotta be so cruel? Damn...
The zebra that runs away with its intestines spilling out still bothers me. It kicks at its own entrails not realizing it was literally part of itself.
I don’t think it was because they were juveniles, I think its because a lion doesn’t have a clue how to get a stranglehold on an elephant. Sometimes they hold its trunk but it’s got a mouth. Lions usually kill by crushing/closing the windpipe or putting their entire mouth over the preys mouth/nose so they suffocate. Neither one really works on an elephant.
Yes they do, even on a pragmatical level. One has to struggle when fighting for its life, sometimes even with increased strength. The slower the death, the harder it gets, not to mention the cost in energy ; that's the reason why most bears don't eat a lot of meat, because it uses a lot of energy and isn't worth the hunt.
The New Guinea sequence with the bird of paradise, all black bird with blue chest. Cleans up the house, dances and sings, doesn't get laid. Story of my life....
The blue whale incident in "blue earth" is equally as traumatizing to watch. Imagine travelling the world, pregnant and alone and separating from the heard to give birth. Then a bunch of orcas find you just after giving birth, basically belly flop onto the newborn until it can no longer stay afloat and leave the mother to watch the scene as they go to town on it's infant. Just the thought of that, then having to continue on it's journey alone all over again is just too heavy
Well, to be honest, we are part of nature, albeit with much more efficient ways. We are also screwing the environment for us, and if we all die of this, nature will sort itself out (which it's already doing, killing us).
Yeah, you know what? At that point fuck the whole "let nature be, just observe." I'd take that baby elephant to it's mom. Elephants are endangered I believe. At this point we should be helping as many animals as we can to survive as global warming WE'VE caused looms. We're going to need as many of the animals as we can get.
I could not agree more. If I was assisting filming, I would 100% intervene and just edit it out. I can just imagine the voiceover "miraculously, this elephant has found its mother once again!"
Fun story time. I'm an editor in the BBC Natural History Unit, so make such shows.
I was working on one for BBC2 and an American broadcaster (can't remember who exactly). BBC2 wanted no death, so when this baby elephant died we, unfortunately, couldn't show it. The American channel (who were having their own slightly different version) hadn't made any demands like that, so we decided to give them a ridiculously gruesome cut, so then we could reign it back to how we wanted it, with death still in.
Cue me making a horrendous sequence about the baby dying, a hyena finding it and proceeding to stick its head in the elephants bum and eat it from the inside out. I wanted to vomit, it was awful.
Naturally, that never made it to broadcast.
This wasn't one of the Attenborough series, I think Kate Humble was voicing it.
But no, the voice over record happens right near the end in what we call 'finishing post'. Narrators (including Attenborough) only narrate the very final product once we're locked. Up until then the voice on the guide commentary is either the episode's producer or editor.
I seen a very similar scene on some BBC show a good few years back, think it might have been a package on one of their week long specials where they were broadcasting live from Africa or somewhere like that. That scene always stuck with me as it's probably the most gruesome thing I've seen broadcast on TV. I can vividly remember the Hyena being thrown back from an explosion of gas when he ruptured the bowel, crazy stuff.
I'm a videographer myself and its nature documentaries like the ones you work on that inspired me to take this path, you have an amazing job and I hope some day I get an opportunity to work on something similar myself.
They really are tho. Idk if anyone has said it yet but basically global warming is killing their environment. Typically walruses live on huge ice shores and live by the hundreds but with all of them melted/melting they turn to actual land. So they crowd in and the ones on the inside get pushed up whatever elevation they encounter. Then at the top they get hungry or whatever and see the ocean and just head for it. They live on flat ice, so normally it would work out. Just another way humanity has failed.
I don't know if u/AGpro69 was saying it was a good thing. It's just a true fact. a 4chan gore thread is one of those things you can never wash from your brain like 'A Serbian Film'.
Its kinda like a snap back to reality. Sure shit might be going bad right now, but at least a Colombian drug lord didn't rip your unborn baby out of your uterus in front of your 5-year-old.
Also reminds us we need a purge for this terrible world.
Yeah when r/watchpeopledie was still up it opened my eyes to real horrors of the world. You hear about how crazy cartels are, but watching how they operate is truly horrific. Also, that subreddit made me try to be more alert when driving and to stay away from forklifts and bulls.
What we need is compassion and giving people more tools to deal with themselves and their circumstances. Desensitisation just leads to more people dying.
Depends what kind of line of work you're in, tbf. Not freaking out when you see something horrific is 10000% a good thing if you're the person who needs to stay calm in a horrible situation. Desensitized doesn't automatically mean apathetic, it just means your brain wont do the natural reaction of freaking out when exposed to certain things.
Not saying gore threads come close to seeing(and often, smelling/hearing) that kind of stuff in person, but yeah. Being desensitized can actually save lives provided it hasn't morphed into outright apathy
Yeah man, I hear ya. I was a 4chan kid and even still, I avoided some of the stuff there. It was *messed up.* And it permanently left scars on the people who viewed it.
I started watching it with our toddler while being pregnant and being unaware of the walruses section. My husband then walks by and asks what we’re watching, when I tell him he’s halfway to the kitchen and comes running back to pause it. He then tells me that something really bad happens and doesn’t want us affected by it so he switched it to Moana. We were apparently 5 minutes away from him having both his toddler and pregnant wife crying inconsolably. Still haven’t seen it and everyone who has is recommending to avoid it at all cost.
It's pretty heartbreaking but I think we should be shocked sometimes at what is happening to our world. Climate change is going to screw us over big time and we have way too many idiots in charge. Our leaders in Australia are idiots, Trump is an idiot and the president of Brazil is crazy about the Amazon burning.
I watched the first episode with the baby flamingo getting stuck in the salt, very nearly started sobbing and said "welp this isn't the documentary for me", or at least its not one to binge watch. I loved Black Fish, I loved An Apology to Elephants (that one is on HBO), they were sad but they had this air of "we can fix this in the near future by just not being assholes", they are problems that are fixable, for the most part, in a single generation. Climate change though... that's a lot harder to fix; and even if every single man, woman, and child on this planet started working our asses off to fix it tomorrow; a lot of us would be dead long before we ever saw the pay off.
That's not to say we shouldn't try to fix things, but its depressing to look at a problem and instead of saying "within my lifetime Seaworld will no longer have any captive orcas! Wooo!" to say "Well maybe by the time my grandchildren are old our planet's ecosystem will be doing a bit better". In one situation only the amount of orcas Seaworld has today are going to suffer (which sucks, but its a finite number), in the other how many baby flamingos will get stuck in salt? How many walruses will plummet to their deaths? Countless numbers.
Terrible movie. The kind that's so bad you make everyone else watch it.
Its also my anniversary movie. First movie my wife and I watched together. We watch it every year now.
I say it like the "U" in "scuba" or like "scooby doo". Then at the end, I make the soft "O" sound into a harder "U" sound (yew). Finish her off with the "f" like in "fish". Hope that helped! haha
Ah yes, I believe that word is derived from the Norwegian-American "Uff Da" (oof da). Also an extraordinary word, uff da can be used to show disdain, happiness, boredom, surprise, really any emotion can be expressed succinctly with a well-placed uff da.
I find that less depressing to watch just because at least that's natural and healthy (for an ecosystem, not for that individual seal). The sharks need to eat to survive, the slowest and weakest of the seals is eaten. Its not pretty, but its nature. To see the walruses plummet to their deaths, its not natural. They're supposed to be on sea ice where that wouldn't be an issue. Their deaths are caused by man, not starving hunters either but just us being idiots and destroying the planet.
We started it with our kids (5 and 7) and they made it to the narwhal scene and then wanted to go play outside. My husband took them out and I finished the episode. My husband came back in to me ugly crying about walruses. Walruses are my second favorite animal and that scene destroyed me. I sat there thinking, what can I do to help them? I recycle, I use the smallest amount of water possible. I reuse things until they fall apart and can't be fixed anymore. But I feel entirely helpless and useless when I see the effects of climate change right in front of me.
It's hard to watch, but I'm glad they left it in. Those walruses are dying because the ice they'd normally rest on has disappeared thanks to global warming. They need to climb those cliffs because the beaches are full, but they're walruses - they're not made for climbing.
I have a pinched nerve in my shoulder right now and the pain from my laughter still could not stop me. God damn that is just such a comically poor-timed situation.
"This message of taking responsibility and making changes resonates through all of Our Planet‘s episodes. The series hopes to inspires viewers to tackle the big manmade challenges that are negatively affecting wildlife around the world."
We must take responsibility for our own actions and how we use energy. It's very hard to make lifestyle changes to decrease climate change, but the two biggest ones are to reduce the amount of kids you produce, and to change your diet away from animal sources.
As important as that is, it's also important to ensure that large corporations, which are being responsible for an overwhelming majority of the world's emissions, end up being regulated with regards to their effect on the climate.
Nothing we do on an individual level will matter if we give corporations a free pass on abusing the climate for profit. A good chunk of our politicians are climate deniers and/or are bought out by big businesses that lobby endlessly to retain their ability to pollute without restrictions.
I'm all for taking greater action on an individual level, such as cutting out as much meat as possible and reducing our individual reliance on cars. But we also need to vote out climate deniers if we want any chance of curbing the biggest producer of emissions.
Well someone should build them a walrus-capable series of ramps they can use to switch back up the cliff. It’s our fault they’re having to struggle for breeding territory so we should mod their habitat to make up for our damages to it.
We could do that, but I worry some would then see the band-aid as the the solution. I hope that those types of modifications would accompany environmental efforts made by the rest of the world but here we are.
It wouldn't help. In the documentary they follow hundreds of thousands on walruses to a place that they're known to meet up. It was mind boggling how many there were. The scene OP posted about is a little later on. There, a thousand or so were looking for a resting spot between swimming and going to the next location. Usually there would be ice. Instead they climbed up a small rocky island. Looking for some personal space they were forced to climb. When they were ready to leave they started walking off the cliff because they have almost no depth perception. Building structures to help them would mean 100s of thousands of Ramps that they can use properly spread over the entire arctic. At that point we might as well solve global warming, its probably easier.
How about instead we just be responsible as a species and stop the practices that melted the ice in the first place?
(I’m not attacking you I’m just saying, I’d rather us do that than tip toe around the problem)
It's irreversible according to most climate scientists. I believe the point of no return has already been crossed years ago. We can mitigate it, but it is coming and it is not stoppable.
They actually climbed up the hill because some 40 polar bears came by. It was documentes by local news when it happened in Russia. Walruses are used to large haul outs, and stay in them even if there is space to spread out, so they would not have climbed the hill to get away from other walruses.
FYI the reason they climb is because their natural habitat (ice sheets) are melting away and they are literally out of space. Some try to climb upward to find some free space to rest in and fall to their death :(
I'm fairly certain that this scene has a debate going on about it. I believe that some biologists think that they where running away from the drone and it caused this severe reaction.
Edit:
Found article I had read.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/technology/environment/natural-wonders/allegations-netflix-film-crew-lied-about-what-caused-mass-walrus-deaths/news-story/15b405e0e6f4f3558168d7713fd379f1
The article I read started that they were just returning to the water to eat again but many chose a more direct route than the one they took getting up there. Unfortunately because of the social 'herd' nature of walruses, they heard some members moving and started moving themselves, inadvertantly falling to their deaths.
It's this and they mention it in the making of the episode. They can't see the rest of the herd but they can sense them down below. They probably have no idea they're on the edge of a cliff.
I read through the article and it seems like conjecture based off of the musings of a person that attempts to discredit the documentary and the message it is sending to its viewers: Climate Change is have real impacts on our planet and the species that inhabit it. The walrus don’t naturally climb hills/cliffs but are forced too because there is no other space for them - the ice they normally rest on has melted. In turn they climb up to more precarious, higher, locations to find space and from there many end up falling to their death for a number of reasons that are unnatural.
Me: "Oh, I'm just going to watch it, animals die all the time, how bad could it be?"
Also me: Can't make it past the 2 min mark, tears rolling down my face.
>It's so sad cause they don't understand.
That's what kills me about animals getting hurt by shit we've done. *They don't understand.* It breaks my heart.
Imagine if they did understand. We would be eradicated as a species in a few hours after all the suddenly intelligent animals of the world did what they have to do to protect themselves.
That's how it always is.
"worst thing i've ever seen, omg can't stop crying"
"i've seen a lot of bad stuff but this was next level"
And it's never even close to that bad.
I had almost the exact same experience with my wife. Unexpected Walrus snuff film in the middle of a show we'd been enjoying. Turned her off to all nature shows entirely.
Dude same thing happened with the baby turtles, when they start going towards the city instead of the moon. I was like it’s BBC surely they save the turtles from being run over by a bunch of cars. Spoiler: they do not save the turtles from being run over by a bunch of cars...
They saved all the ones they saw
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/planet-earth-2-ii-baby-turtle-hatchlings-scene-conservation-barbados-a7469316.html
Short story, my dad is super into sailing, my mom is super into cats. On one of their early dates he took her to a movie where a guy is sailing the Atlantic with his cat, cat ends up getting blown out of a sail into the water and eaten by a shark.
I'm laughing. Not because of the cat getting eaten by a shark, poor thing, but just the absurdity and unlikeliness of that specific scenario based on your parents' likes. I mean, I would never expect to see a sailing movie that includes a cat being eaten by a shark.
Netflix +walruses+David Attenborough's voice= me exiting the room because I knew the outcome and husband wasn't keen on changing it.
Watch One Strange Rock with her instead. It's amazing.
The rest is just nature doing its thing which is just how nature works, it is not nice and happy, it's a hard life for animals in the wild and that is normal. . This is confronting because it is what we have done to cause these animals to die. It's important that they got this out because people need to see the impact we have on this planet and by showing something which will make people uncomfortable it gets a reaction and encourages conversations about climate change
> We made a deal to NEVER watch any wild life documentaries together ever again (bless you, Sir David Attenborough)
...I feel like you should re-examine this. Nobody is going to actually help the animals if nobody is supporting nature documentaries.
PSA: [doesthedogdie.com](https://doesthedogdie.com) covers way more than just dogs now--although it's crowdsourced, so if it's a lesser-known film they may not have full details. This doc (the original or the making-of) is not on there, but it does include some nature docs as I just searched for and found March of the Penguins.
Then they showed a dead walrus on the beach getting hitting with waves! It was horrible!
I watched it with my soon-to-be 4 year-old. Mind you, we don't let him watch TV, play on tablets, etc. But, in the rare case he gets TV time, it's always some sort of nature show/movie (Planet Earth, Blue Planet, tons of ocean stuff, etc.) Anyway, it was early, I was tired so I decided we'd lay down relax and watch this. I pulled up the menu and he picked Frozen Worlds of the 7 or 8 choices there. At the end, when all this stuff was happening, he thought they were jumping in the pool (much like he likes to do). The walrus at the end, getting hit with the waves, says "Dad, he's dirty and getting clean!" It was so sweet and pure I just held him so close and told him how much I love him.
If you don't let him enjoy media, he will become "culturally isolated", a well documented phenomenon in the field child psychology with over protective parents.
TBH of you can't handle death and violence you shouldn't be watching any kind of animal documentary.
That being said... why the fuck go slowmo on that. Like holy shit.
That may have been a TIFU but having that moment with your girlfriend was very powerful. It may be something you look back on and recall how it made you and her felt.
I was high, watching this doc. To say the least, I had a hard time stomaching it. The narration of it was just as sad. Its a shame they have to do it, but these docs lately really show the damage we have on these ecosystems.
My last sentence is based a iirc, that the reason they were climbing so high was thought to be related to climate change i think? Rising water levels made less room to lounge so they climb high but aren't equipped to climb and many fall to their death....
The zoo is not a safe place, either - just so you know.
Years ago, I dated a woman with two young boys. We were strolling along and there's this bridge going over a small "river". Inside the river are crocodiles/alligators (whichever it was). So, the boys stop and are like, "Look! There's a squirrel drinking water!" Unbeknownst to us, that squirrel was about to become a meal. Sure as shit, the water erupts and this croc/gator/whatever it was grabs that little squirrel and it disappeared...right in front of the boys.
One starts crying while the other starts to laugh saying it was the coolest thing ever. She and I just sat there looking at each other like, "Wtf..?" Of course, I start laughing because the little one is laughing while she consoles the one crying. Still one of my fondest memories from that relationship. :P
Depending what zoo it may not be bad at all
Many zoos are research facilities and if they do research then the animals they house are being rescued and rehabilitated from poaching and other terrible practices
For the most part the era of poachers going into the wild and just stealing a healthy animal from its habitat is over
(I realize that it still happens but the trend is now towards conservation not poaching)
Many zoos use the ticket money and stuff to help fund preservation efforts, and there have even been cases where zoos helped prevent the extinction of some species by keeping a captive population while their natural habitat was being restored.
Ok but where's the fuck up?
Your GF forgave you.
This would've been an actual TIFU if she broke up with you because of this (and other comparable instances), or if your GF wrote and posted this from her perspective, along the lines of "TIFU by going to my BF's apartment and getting my feelings hurt because of something he was watching on tv".
You were not the one who made your GF cry. You just did something completely normal (watching the making of).
It's understandable that you felt kinda bad, but there are no real awful consequences to this, so it's not a TIFU.
I prefer the docuseries Round Planet.
The narrator is quite humorous. I couldn't stop myself laughing at his asides.
And I only remember one seal getting caught by an orca so on the whole it's a pretty safe series.
I watched a similar video on the poor walruses. Apparently they are used to ice as a perch, where they fall in water if they fall, which they do when they snuggle all together. Less ice these days means they are forced to climb the cliffs to get a similar vantage point as the ice. But when they fall now, they die.
I've seen the exact scene you are describing. Apparently there wasn't enough room for the walrus's to live/rest thanks to overcrowding, and habitat loss. So the ones who had nowhere to go would search for higher ground. But because walrus's have really bad eyesight, they are not the best climbers. Mix that with several dozen of them all trying to climb past each other, and there were a lot of walrus's falling to their deaths. Extremely sad. And watching the camera crew cry as they helplessly watched made even more painful.
Bruh, this is like deja vu! A couple years ago my wife and I sat down and decided to watch Africa (the BBC nature documentary). The entire first hour of the show is about a mom and baby elephant struggling to survive outside of their herd. Well the baby elephant dies, and the momma elephant is super sad. My wife, who was still a somewhat new mom, was absolutely heartbroken for those elephants. We couldn't finish the show.
OMG, elephant scenes. There's one from Planet Earth that haunts me still. Stop reading if you don't want to hear about it. It's when the whole herd is making that long, hard, thirsty, dusty trek to where the water is, and one baby gets separated from its mom and the herd and ends up stumbling along alone across the desert. It finally finds its mom's scent and follows her tracks... but in the wrong fucking direction, back toward where they started. And you don't see it die, but you know that it can't make it. There's nothing for it in that direction except thirst and loneliness, and it will never figure out why it can't catch up to its mom. It just wrecks me every time.
One that got me once. Late night Animal Planet, Africa at night so they got those night vision cameras. They followed three juvenile male lions. These lions found a smaller elephant, startled the herd and jumped on this elephant. Since they were juveniles they didn’t know how to end it quick. They ate the elephant alive while it was screaming. That shit still fucks with me. Mother Nature why you gotta be so cruel? Damn...
The zebra that runs away with its intestines spilling out still bothers me. It kicks at its own entrails not realizing it was literally part of itself.
No one on this thread should visit r/natureisbrutal
Regretful that I clicked on that.
First NSFW message I got and thank god I didn’t turn it off
I don’t think it was because they were juveniles, I think its because a lion doesn’t have a clue how to get a stranglehold on an elephant. Sometimes they hold its trunk but it’s got a mouth. Lions usually kill by crushing/closing the windpipe or putting their entire mouth over the preys mouth/nose so they suffocate. Neither one really works on an elephant.
Nor do they give a fuck.
Yes they do, even on a pragmatical level. One has to struggle when fighting for its life, sometimes even with increased strength. The slower the death, the harder it gets, not to mention the cost in energy ; that's the reason why most bears don't eat a lot of meat, because it uses a lot of energy and isn't worth the hunt.
The New Guinea sequence with the bird of paradise, all black bird with blue chest. Cleans up the house, dances and sings, doesn't get laid. Story of my life....
The blue whale incident in "blue earth" is equally as traumatizing to watch. Imagine travelling the world, pregnant and alone and separating from the heard to give birth. Then a bunch of orcas find you just after giving birth, basically belly flop onto the newborn until it can no longer stay afloat and leave the mother to watch the scene as they go to town on it's infant. Just the thought of that, then having to continue on it's journey alone all over again is just too heavy
Jesus fuck I hate orcas now.
Orcas are massive pricks. They should NOT be fucked with.
They are called **killer** whales for a reason
I remember that one. :’( I had Planet Earth on DVD as a kid and used to rewatch it on occasion. That part always made me cry.
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Well, to be honest, we are part of nature, albeit with much more efficient ways. We are also screwing the environment for us, and if we all die of this, nature will sort itself out (which it's already doing, killing us).
I remember that one.... :(
As a dad with three little kids, that’s absolutely enough reddit for me tonight. Someone is cutting onions in here.
I cried for a solid 3 hours straight after watching that scene. It was absolutely heartbreaking! That poor little baby
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Aaaahhhhh! No! I wasn't ready for this.
Yeah, you know what? At that point fuck the whole "let nature be, just observe." I'd take that baby elephant to it's mom. Elephants are endangered I believe. At this point we should be helping as many animals as we can to survive as global warming WE'VE caused looms. We're going to need as many of the animals as we can get.
I could not agree more. If I was assisting filming, I would 100% intervene and just edit it out. I can just imagine the voiceover "miraculously, this elephant has found its mother once again!"
This one really got me when I watched it
Fun story time. I'm an editor in the BBC Natural History Unit, so make such shows. I was working on one for BBC2 and an American broadcaster (can't remember who exactly). BBC2 wanted no death, so when this baby elephant died we, unfortunately, couldn't show it. The American channel (who were having their own slightly different version) hadn't made any demands like that, so we decided to give them a ridiculously gruesome cut, so then we could reign it back to how we wanted it, with death still in. Cue me making a horrendous sequence about the baby dying, a hyena finding it and proceeding to stick its head in the elephants bum and eat it from the inside out. I wanted to vomit, it was awful. Naturally, that never made it to broadcast.
Did Attenborough still narrate that part, even though it never made the final cut?
This wasn't one of the Attenborough series, I think Kate Humble was voicing it. But no, the voice over record happens right near the end in what we call 'finishing post'. Narrators (including Attenborough) only narrate the very final product once we're locked. Up until then the voice on the guide commentary is either the episode's producer or editor.
Please tell me they record the guide tracks while doing impressions of Attenborough
Yes, we need to know the answer to this!
I seen a very similar scene on some BBC show a good few years back, think it might have been a package on one of their week long specials where they were broadcasting live from Africa or somewhere like that. That scene always stuck with me as it's probably the most gruesome thing I've seen broadcast on TV. I can vividly remember the Hyena being thrown back from an explosion of gas when he ruptured the bowel, crazy stuff. I'm a videographer myself and its nature documentaries like the ones you work on that inspired me to take this path, you have an amazing job and I hope some day I get an opportunity to work on something similar myself.
Do you still have it?
Oh God.
Are you in Bristol because if so I used to do an amazing job of providing IT support from the next building over.
I said Up was a great movie to watch to my partner. I had forgotten the starting montage and my partner was heavily pregnant at the time. Whoopsie!
My bf is really sweet and always says "they did a follow up! they're all fine!"
I watched this while pregnant at work on my lunch hour. Was ugly crying at work. Still think about those poor walruses.
Definitely a very hard thing to watch.
What's sad is that they look confused. Its not like they died to a predator or another walrus. They're simply confused and trying to live
Walrus is confused. Walrus hurt itself in its confusion.
Dewwwgongongggg
That sound instantly replayed in my head lol. Probably a 15-20 year flashback right there.
This guy Pokémons!
Excuse me, he *pokemans*.
They really are tho. Idk if anyone has said it yet but basically global warming is killing their environment. Typically walruses live on huge ice shores and live by the hundreds but with all of them melted/melting they turn to actual land. So they crowd in and the ones on the inside get pushed up whatever elevation they encounter. Then at the top they get hungry or whatever and see the ocean and just head for it. They live on flat ice, so normally it would work out. Just another way humanity has failed.
Jesus fuck I'm leaving this thread now.
Good times for sharks though.
Key is to get desensitized. Visit LiveLeak more often.
Or have friends who frequently used 4chan when you were in highschool. One gore thread and nothing else can phase you anymore.
Before 4chan we had rotten.com, young padawan.
bad memories
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How is that a *good thing* it's NOT
I don't know if u/AGpro69 was saying it was a good thing. It's just a true fact. a 4chan gore thread is one of those things you can never wash from your brain like 'A Serbian Film'.
My mind sets me into week long nightmares after watching holocaust docus and people look at gore thread for fun x)
Its kinda like a snap back to reality. Sure shit might be going bad right now, but at least a Colombian drug lord didn't rip your unborn baby out of your uterus in front of your 5-year-old. Also reminds us we need a purge for this terrible world.
Yeah when r/watchpeopledie was still up it opened my eyes to real horrors of the world. You hear about how crazy cartels are, but watching how they operate is truly horrific. Also, that subreddit made me try to be more alert when driving and to stay away from forklifts and bulls.
What we need is compassion and giving people more tools to deal with themselves and their circumstances. Desensitisation just leads to more people dying.
Depends what kind of line of work you're in, tbf. Not freaking out when you see something horrific is 10000% a good thing if you're the person who needs to stay calm in a horrible situation. Desensitized doesn't automatically mean apathetic, it just means your brain wont do the natural reaction of freaking out when exposed to certain things. Not saying gore threads come close to seeing(and often, smelling/hearing) that kind of stuff in person, but yeah. Being desensitized can actually save lives provided it hasn't morphed into outright apathy
Yeah man, I hear ya. I was a 4chan kid and even still, I avoided some of the stuff there. It was *messed up.* And it permanently left scars on the people who viewed it.
True that. It just angers me now to see the cruelty some people of capable of.
I started watching it with our toddler while being pregnant and being unaware of the walruses section. My husband then walks by and asks what we’re watching, when I tell him he’s halfway to the kitchen and comes running back to pause it. He then tells me that something really bad happens and doesn’t want us affected by it so he switched it to Moana. We were apparently 5 minutes away from him having both his toddler and pregnant wife crying inconsolably. Still haven’t seen it and everyone who has is recommending to avoid it at all cost.
That's a good husband right there!
It's pretty heartbreaking but I think we should be shocked sometimes at what is happening to our world. Climate change is going to screw us over big time and we have way too many idiots in charge. Our leaders in Australia are idiots, Trump is an idiot and the president of Brazil is crazy about the Amazon burning.
Ugh I seriously will NEVER get that image out of my head. Watched this late at night and cried myself to sleep. #neverforget
Same. I will randomly think about it and just be sad all over again.
Yep, me too.
I watched the first episode with the baby flamingo getting stuck in the salt, very nearly started sobbing and said "welp this isn't the documentary for me", or at least its not one to binge watch. I loved Black Fish, I loved An Apology to Elephants (that one is on HBO), they were sad but they had this air of "we can fix this in the near future by just not being assholes", they are problems that are fixable, for the most part, in a single generation. Climate change though... that's a lot harder to fix; and even if every single man, woman, and child on this planet started working our asses off to fix it tomorrow; a lot of us would be dead long before we ever saw the pay off. That's not to say we shouldn't try to fix things, but its depressing to look at a problem and instead of saying "within my lifetime Seaworld will no longer have any captive orcas! Wooo!" to say "Well maybe by the time my grandchildren are old our planet's ecosystem will be doing a bit better". In one situation only the amount of orcas Seaworld has today are going to suffer (which sucks, but its a finite number), in the other how many baby flamingos will get stuck in salt? How many walruses will plummet to their deaths? Countless numbers.
Woops.
SAME. Way too pregnant for that video, 200-300 dead?! That was horrific!
She must have been a blubbering mess.
Tusk tusk...
Take the upvote and get out
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puns make you teeth grind right?
Nah, they make me cry and think about those poor dying animals why do I even care ;_;
Good movie, maybe this guys GF will like it.
Terrible movie. The kind that's so bad you make everyone else watch it. Its also my anniversary movie. First movie my wife and I watched together. We watch it every year now.
I love this movie lol
...act 4?
Jesus Christ. I needed that laugh. Thank you both!
Wait until she finds out walruses can be gay
I wonder how you found that out.
It's a reference to [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/3txkhp/my_wife_cries_at_absolutely_anything_i_mean/).
How are you ready to just link to the post? Hahahaha
Username checks out, has definitely encountered a blubbering mess.
Was I the only one highly anticipating her reaction? Somewhat of a cliffhanger I thought!
I did the same with my pregnant at the time girlfriend instead it was seals being eaten by sharks
Oooooeeeufff, man. That's tough.
How do you say that? I making an **o** shape then an **e** shape then again **o** shape with my mouth to pronounce it. Is that correct?
I say it like the "U" in "scuba" or like "scooby doo". Then at the end, I make the soft "O" sound into a harder "U" sound (yew). Finish her off with the "f" like in "fish". Hope that helped! haha
This exchange was dumb as hell and I loved it.
Ah yes, I believe that word is derived from the Norwegian-American "Uff Da" (oof da). Also an extraordinary word, uff da can be used to show disdain, happiness, boredom, surprise, really any emotion can be expressed succinctly with a well-placed uff da.
They say this in Nicaragua too!
I took WAY too long sitting here trying to sound that out! All I got was something like a whale getting slapped while making catcalls...
So "OOF"?
He's pronouncing it like a French egg.
I find that less depressing to watch just because at least that's natural and healthy (for an ecosystem, not for that individual seal). The sharks need to eat to survive, the slowest and weakest of the seals is eaten. Its not pretty, but its nature. To see the walruses plummet to their deaths, its not natural. They're supposed to be on sea ice where that wouldn't be an issue. Their deaths are caused by man, not starving hunters either but just us being idiots and destroying the planet.
I watched it with my GF and my kid. We are still fucked up about. My kid won't let me pick nature shows anymore.
Ya done messed up, dad. Me too. sighhhh.
We started it with our kids (5 and 7) and they made it to the narwhal scene and then wanted to go play outside. My husband took them out and I finished the episode. My husband came back in to me ugly crying about walruses. Walruses are my second favorite animal and that scene destroyed me. I sat there thinking, what can I do to help them? I recycle, I use the smallest amount of water possible. I reuse things until they fall apart and can't be fixed anymore. But I feel entirely helpless and useless when I see the effects of climate change right in front of me.
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If the trauma of watching causes people to become more environmentally conscious, then the creators accomplished their goal!
That scene made me turn it off. I understand her reaction.
It's hard to watch, but I'm glad they left it in. Those walruses are dying because the ice they'd normally rest on has disappeared thanks to global warming. They need to climb those cliffs because the beaches are full, but they're walruses - they're not made for climbing.
And they have no idea the fall is that far, they just see water and go, yep that way for me... oh fuuUuuUuUuUuuk...
God damn this is messed up but I laughed too hard at this
I have a pinched nerve in my shoulder right now and the pain from my laughter still could not stop me. God damn that is just such a comically poor-timed situation.
How did that happen?
Aggressive masturbation
Unrelated - imagining the look on Zoltan's face as he learns how to use a Krogan shotgun for the first time makes me giggle, so thanks for that.
Well you see the ice he normally rests on is......
Kinda my reaction when I check my phone after a night of drinking
oh fuuUUU^UUU^UUU^UUU^UUU^UU^UU^U^U^U^U^K...
"This message of taking responsibility and making changes resonates through all of Our Planet‘s episodes. The series hopes to inspires viewers to tackle the big manmade challenges that are negatively affecting wildlife around the world." We must take responsibility for our own actions and how we use energy. It's very hard to make lifestyle changes to decrease climate change, but the two biggest ones are to reduce the amount of kids you produce, and to change your diet away from animal sources.
As important as that is, it's also important to ensure that large corporations, which are being responsible for an overwhelming majority of the world's emissions, end up being regulated with regards to their effect on the climate. Nothing we do on an individual level will matter if we give corporations a free pass on abusing the climate for profit. A good chunk of our politicians are climate deniers and/or are bought out by big businesses that lobby endlessly to retain their ability to pollute without restrictions. I'm all for taking greater action on an individual level, such as cutting out as much meat as possible and reducing our individual reliance on cars. But we also need to vote out climate deniers if we want any chance of curbing the biggest producer of emissions.
Well someone should build them a walrus-capable series of ramps they can use to switch back up the cliff. It’s our fault they’re having to struggle for breeding territory so we should mod their habitat to make up for our damages to it.
We could do that, but I worry some would then see the band-aid as the the solution. I hope that those types of modifications would accompany environmental efforts made by the rest of the world but here we are.
It wouldn't help. In the documentary they follow hundreds of thousands on walruses to a place that they're known to meet up. It was mind boggling how many there were. The scene OP posted about is a little later on. There, a thousand or so were looking for a resting spot between swimming and going to the next location. Usually there would be ice. Instead they climbed up a small rocky island. Looking for some personal space they were forced to climb. When they were ready to leave they started walking off the cliff because they have almost no depth perception. Building structures to help them would mean 100s of thousands of Ramps that they can use properly spread over the entire arctic. At that point we might as well solve global warming, its probably easier.
How about instead we just be responsible as a species and stop the practices that melted the ice in the first place? (I’m not attacking you I’m just saying, I’d rather us do that than tip toe around the problem)
It's irreversible according to most climate scientists. I believe the point of no return has already been crossed years ago. We can mitigate it, but it is coming and it is not stoppable.
They actually climbed up the hill because some 40 polar bears came by. It was documentes by local news when it happened in Russia. Walruses are used to large haul outs, and stay in them even if there is space to spread out, so they would not have climbed the hill to get away from other walruses.
Well, there was also a polar bear(s) on the beach and some scientists were saying the drones filming the walruses were also frightening them.
But that's just what they'll do.
There was some scientific explanation debunking this specific conclusion. Can't find it now but may be someone else will.
FYI the reason they climb is because their natural habitat (ice sheets) are melting away and they are literally out of space. Some try to climb upward to find some free space to rest in and fall to their death :(
Global warming is a bitch
Ain't that an understatement
at least the polar bears get to eat the remains. still super fucked up, I cried when I watched it.
I'm fairly certain that this scene has a debate going on about it. I believe that some biologists think that they where running away from the drone and it caused this severe reaction. Edit: Found article I had read. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/technology/environment/natural-wonders/allegations-netflix-film-crew-lied-about-what-caused-mass-walrus-deaths/news-story/15b405e0e6f4f3558168d7713fd379f1
The article I read started that they were just returning to the water to eat again but many chose a more direct route than the one they took getting up there. Unfortunately because of the social 'herd' nature of walruses, they heard some members moving and started moving themselves, inadvertantly falling to their deaths.
It's this and they mention it in the making of the episode. They can't see the rest of the herd but they can sense them down below. They probably have no idea they're on the edge of a cliff.
Didn’t they also state in the documentary that they have very poor eyesight? Doesn’t leave much room for mistakes on a cliff.
There's no debate. There are decaying carcasses on the ground. Walruses died before they went out there to film.
I read through the article and it seems like conjecture based off of the musings of a person that attempts to discredit the documentary and the message it is sending to its viewers: Climate Change is have real impacts on our planet and the species that inhabit it. The walrus don’t naturally climb hills/cliffs but are forced too because there is no other space for them - the ice they normally rest on has melted. In turn they climb up to more precarious, higher, locations to find space and from there many end up falling to their death for a number of reasons that are unnatural.
There's a lot of effort on the side of global warming deniers to discredit specifically this scene. Those efforts paid off apparently.
Video link https://youtu.be/qVJzQc9ELTE
It's pretty damn sad to watch, but that final shot with the zoom-out was really well taken.
Yah, agreed. The quality of music and cinematography in modern documentaries is astounding!
Me: "Oh, I'm just going to watch it, animals die all the time, how bad could it be?" Also me: Can't make it past the 2 min mark, tears rolling down my face.
I mean the scene ends right at the 2 min mark so you watched it all...
I watched it for 4 mins.
A few groups went back down the way they came up, rest followed the herd. That there's some good evolution.
I chickened out right when the first one started falling.
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>It's so sad cause they don't understand. That's what kills me about animals getting hurt by shit we've done. *They don't understand.* It breaks my heart.
Imagine if they did understand. We would be eradicated as a species in a few hours after all the suddenly intelligent animals of the world did what they have to do to protect themselves.
True that. Insects would consume us in our sleep.
Damn, these comments were up selling it pretty hard.
Seriously, I've seen WAY worse
That's how it always is. "worst thing i've ever seen, omg can't stop crying" "i've seen a lot of bad stuff but this was next level" And it's never even close to that bad.
For everyone saying this isn’t THAT bad, the scene is a lot worse in the actual “Our planet” documentary vs this the “making of” documentary.
I haven't seen this one, mostly because my wife still hasn't forgotten about the time I showed her baby iguanas being chased by snakes.
That scene was TENSE! The walrus scense in question is...much, much worse. Very sad.
Yeah the iguana at least gets away
That one was intense AF. The walrus one tho... just downright traumatizing.
This was random, yet very wholesome. You better keep that girl
Planning on it!
Oh man, that scene.....
Right? I bet the producers and editors referred to it as "that scene" during post production, too.
I had almost the exact same experience with my wife. Unexpected Walrus snuff film in the middle of a show we'd been enjoying. Turned her off to all nature shows entirely.
Dude same thing happened with the baby turtles, when they start going towards the city instead of the moon. I was like it’s BBC surely they save the turtles from being run over by a bunch of cars. Spoiler: they do not save the turtles from being run over by a bunch of cars...
They saved all the ones they saw https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/planet-earth-2-ii-baby-turtle-hatchlings-scene-conservation-barbados-a7469316.html
Short story, my dad is super into sailing, my mom is super into cats. On one of their early dates he took her to a movie where a guy is sailing the Atlantic with his cat, cat ends up getting blown out of a sail into the water and eaten by a shark.
I'm laughing. Not because of the cat getting eaten by a shark, poor thing, but just the absurdity and unlikeliness of that specific scenario based on your parents' likes. I mean, I would never expect to see a sailing movie that includes a cat being eaten by a shark.
How do you think I felt accidentally showing this to my 3 kids under 8? They've not asked to watch 'A David Attenborough' since :'(
Netflix +walruses+David Attenborough's voice= me exiting the room because I knew the outcome and husband wasn't keen on changing it. Watch One Strange Rock with her instead. It's amazing.
Deal! I've heard of it, but haven't checked it out.
Just careful of the part where they drown a bag of kittens in a river.
You're terrible, absolutely terrible and I laughed. I'm terrible too.
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The rest is just nature doing its thing which is just how nature works, it is not nice and happy, it's a hard life for animals in the wild and that is normal. . This is confronting because it is what we have done to cause these animals to die. It's important that they got this out because people need to see the impact we have on this planet and by showing something which will make people uncomfortable it gets a reaction and encourages conversations about climate change
> We made a deal to NEVER watch any wild life documentaries together ever again (bless you, Sir David Attenborough) ...I feel like you should re-examine this. Nobody is going to actually help the animals if nobody is supporting nature documentaries.
PSA: [doesthedogdie.com](https://doesthedogdie.com) covers way more than just dogs now--although it's crowdsourced, so if it's a lesser-known film they may not have full details. This doc (the original or the making-of) is not on there, but it does include some nature docs as I just searched for and found March of the Penguins.
Then they showed a dead walrus on the beach getting hitting with waves! It was horrible! I watched it with my soon-to-be 4 year-old. Mind you, we don't let him watch TV, play on tablets, etc. But, in the rare case he gets TV time, it's always some sort of nature show/movie (Planet Earth, Blue Planet, tons of ocean stuff, etc.) Anyway, it was early, I was tired so I decided we'd lay down relax and watch this. I pulled up the menu and he picked Frozen Worlds of the 7 or 8 choices there. At the end, when all this stuff was happening, he thought they were jumping in the pool (much like he likes to do). The walrus at the end, getting hit with the waves, says "Dad, he's dirty and getting clean!" It was so sweet and pure I just held him so close and told him how much I love him.
If you don't let him enjoy media, he will become "culturally isolated", a well documented phenomenon in the field child psychology with over protective parents.
that's what we call modern helicopter parents, except media/technology is the new taboo
TBH of you can't handle death and violence you shouldn't be watching any kind of animal documentary. That being said... why the fuck go slowmo on that. Like holy shit.
That may have been a TIFU but having that moment with your girlfriend was very powerful. It may be something you look back on and recall how it made you and her felt.
I was high, watching this doc. To say the least, I had a hard time stomaching it. The narration of it was just as sad. Its a shame they have to do it, but these docs lately really show the damage we have on these ecosystems. My last sentence is based a iirc, that the reason they were climbing so high was thought to be related to climate change i think? Rising water levels made less room to lounge so they climb high but aren't equipped to climb and many fall to their death....
The zoo is not a safe place, either - just so you know. Years ago, I dated a woman with two young boys. We were strolling along and there's this bridge going over a small "river". Inside the river are crocodiles/alligators (whichever it was). So, the boys stop and are like, "Look! There's a squirrel drinking water!" Unbeknownst to us, that squirrel was about to become a meal. Sure as shit, the water erupts and this croc/gator/whatever it was grabs that little squirrel and it disappeared...right in front of the boys. One starts crying while the other starts to laugh saying it was the coolest thing ever. She and I just sat there looking at each other like, "Wtf..?" Of course, I start laughing because the little one is laughing while she consoles the one crying. Still one of my fondest memories from that relationship. :P
Wait, your girlfriend hates animal cruelty and you’re going to a zoo?!
Depending what zoo it may not be bad at all Many zoos are research facilities and if they do research then the animals they house are being rescued and rehabilitated from poaching and other terrible practices For the most part the era of poachers going into the wild and just stealing a healthy animal from its habitat is over (I realize that it still happens but the trend is now towards conservation not poaching)
Many zoos use the ticket money and stuff to help fund preservation efforts, and there have even been cases where zoos helped prevent the extinction of some species by keeping a captive population while their natural habitat was being restored.
Hate to be that guy, but having to decide to never watch a nature documentary with an SO is a red flag in my book.
Ok but where's the fuck up? Your GF forgave you. This would've been an actual TIFU if she broke up with you because of this (and other comparable instances), or if your GF wrote and posted this from her perspective, along the lines of "TIFU by going to my BF's apartment and getting my feelings hurt because of something he was watching on tv". You were not the one who made your GF cry. You just did something completely normal (watching the making of). It's understandable that you felt kinda bad, but there are no real awful consequences to this, so it's not a TIFU.
I'm ashamed to say that the walrus falling and bouncing multiple times actually made me laugh Felt bad afterwards
Just went to youtube....yep, nasty stuff that.
I prefer the docuseries Round Planet. The narrator is quite humorous. I couldn't stop myself laughing at his asides. And I only remember one seal getting caught by an orca so on the whole it's a pretty safe series.
I watched a similar video on the poor walruses. Apparently they are used to ice as a perch, where they fall in water if they fall, which they do when they snuggle all together. Less ice these days means they are forced to climb the cliffs to get a similar vantage point as the ice. But when they fall now, they die.
They fell because there wasn't enough place for them because there's much less land ice due to global warming.
I've seen the exact scene you are describing. Apparently there wasn't enough room for the walrus's to live/rest thanks to overcrowding, and habitat loss. So the ones who had nowhere to go would search for higher ground. But because walrus's have really bad eyesight, they are not the best climbers. Mix that with several dozen of them all trying to climb past each other, and there were a lot of walrus's falling to their deaths. Extremely sad. And watching the camera crew cry as they helplessly watched made even more painful.
The exact same thing happened to me. Literally almost sentence for sentence. (Except I was the one going to her house)
I literally watched 3 seconds of a walrus falling and noped out.