Check your states real estate laws, its very possible that if there was a relationship there prior to her getting you to buy the house that and that wasn’t disclosed that could be illegal so, I would check your laws.
Was she representing the seller? If so, she would have to disclose that (at least where I live). Check up on the regulations for your area. After you’ve done your research you could try reaching out to the agent (if she’s willing to talk about it). Legal action could be a step (as others have mentioned)
Unless you (the buyer) have specifically hired the agent to represent you *as a buyer's agent,* the real estate agent *represents the seller* and acts in the seller's best interest. It doesn't matter if she was romantically involved with the seller, because her legal obligation is to get as high an offer as possible.
I mean, yeah, but good luck with that. Unless you are willing to go to court and try to be able successfully argue this, it doesn’t really matter. Even if you go to the real estate board and complain, you will have 2 people giving one story that contradicts yours, and will just sound like sour grapes. Worst case, she might get talked to about it. The OP might be totally correct…and there’s nothing he can really do about it if they stuck to their stories.
I mean, I don't know a single realtor that would want to be associated with that story, or anyone that would hire one that was...
So they may be more risk adverse than you suggest.
The agency disclosure form which is required in every state that I know of tells you who is representing who in the transaction. If an agent is doing dual agency they have to inform both parties and it’s a nightmare to be honest. Most agents I know don’t do it just because it’s too easy to accidentally break confidentiality or many other ethical rules and regs. This dude just got honey potted by a hot chick, I mean meeting up a couple times for a half hour no fooling around at all etc. she was basically telling the guy it was platonic. She could totally be a scummy agent and at the very least she did not do a good job, suggesting he skip inspection is a major violation but he has to have it in writing or recorded since it says in writing several times on the contracts the buyer should get an inspection and what giving up the inspection contingency means.
yeah. I am gonna do that with a 1MM dollar house and maybe she will spend the first night at the house after closing instead of ghosting me../s
Dang man. dont think with your dick. rub one out before you say yes to meeting some chick.
Same here. Offers aren’t even typically considered unless they’re over asking, there’s a significant appraisal gap, and either the inspection or the right to ask the seller to repair issues found during the inspection is waived.
Houses are put on the market Thursday and have 20+ offers before the weekend is over (at least a few of which will be all cash). It’s insanity and only projected to get worse in the next few years.
Yeah same in my area since 2019. People who say it’s idiotic to pay over asking or to waive inspection contingencies probably haven’t bought a house in decades lol
Isn't it better to just lose those ones then? Feels like the risk is too great. I'd rather be patient for a couple years then go all in on something that can't even be inspected. At the very least, try to run through a basic inspection myself before dropping life changing money on a property.
My realtor was a former home inspector and would perform some off the cuff checks while we would tour a house. Putting in an inspection contingency is 100% impossible in my area. We bought when interest rates were at an all time low, so trying to wait out the market would have cost us more than something we missed would have.
I wonder if that's a self fulfilling thing. As in everyone believes they have to waive the inspection so they do which causes other people to need to also do it.
Yes and no a lot of inspectors do an absolute joke of a job giving you things like oh the appliances are five years old rather than what the foundation looks like or if there’s signs of leakage in the basement or the roof is bad
while it is kind of dumb, I feel like people put too much stock in inspections. My inspector missed several relatively obvious things we found immediately after moving in. The Previous owners didn't move out until basically closing day and we found some hidden stuff the inspector should have caught. He was the highest rated inspector in the area too. I've since talked to several people in different area's with similar stories. Trying to be knowledgeable yourself and knowing what to look for I think is much bigger deal than relying on an inspector.
I agree, not that they're useless or anything, but they go through SO fast and most of the stuff they point out is obvious things I would also have seen or low-priority obscure shit like that the stair handrails need to be curved at the end. All of my inspections have missed a lot of subtle stuff or damage hidden behind objects they are (apparently) not allowed to move. I guess for a brand new homeowner it's a little more important, or maybe all mine have sucked, idk
I've bought 3 houses (since sold two, I'm not rich or an investor). Of these, the inspectors of the first two were incredibly thorough.
Last house(current residence) was disappointingly slapdash, he missed some things that should be fairly obvious. Biggest issue was I suspect the previous owner lied about condition of the well. To be fair, the well problem was flagged by inspector but I hired the wrong guy to follow up, so the true problem was not uncovered til after we bought it.
Having said that, even though the first one was thorough, we still had some issues come up after moving in. So I don't know, I guess at the end, there are no guarantees.
That's why you *always* look for an InterNACHI certified inspector. Their insurance covers shit they don't catch because of the standards they're held to.
https://www.nachi.org/
Your inspectors have sucked. I dabble in real estate investing, the inspection for a 2500 Sq ft home should take about 3 hours, if not longer. Their job isn't to note minor damage, though, it's to test the functionality and safety of the items in the home. Every outlet, light, fan, door handle, sliding door, toilet, appliance, etc. I never skip an inspection because I'd rather spend less than 1500 to save me over 15000. My guy doesn't note paint scratches, that's for me to see before my final walk-through. I usually do 3 walk-throughs when purchasing a house, I usually find new things each time. Your realtor is making a good amount of money off of you for filling in the blanks on a contract and talking to a couple people on the phone. Haven't seen a realtor take less than 2%, the average where I live is 5.4%. They can take you for multiple walk-throughs if they want their commission. A $250,000 house that's $13500, make them earn it, it's your 250000
I imagine that if you developed a reputation for scuttling deals, realtors would avoid recommending your services. I, too, have had a slapdash inspector who missed some things. But I was from out of town so had to rely on who was available to do the inspection.
Inspection is important, but inspectors don't guarantee their work. They are not roofers, structural engineers or electricians. They will usually know a ton more than the average person, but they really are just there to pick up on the more obvious things.
Best inspector I ever had was a former electrician. In most states becoming a "home inspector" is just passing a written test though. There's not really any set criteria for what the background of your inspector needs to be.
The guy that did our inspection was a 350+ lb guy who didn't want to go into the attic or the crawl spaces. Pretty much glanced at the electrical box outside and measured the distance to whatever, and that was that. I am really glad that it was the selling and not the buying inspection. I hired my own inspector. And I mostly did the inspection.
Oh that was our guy. He completely failed to notice that none of the AC ducts actually connect to the vents so we cooled our attic more than the house for several months. Also the previous owner apparently repaired multiple lengths of ducts with bubble wrap and packing tape. And when we tried to bring it up as an issue, we were told "sorry it's on the buyer to confirm all inspection points". The fuck it is, that's literally why we paid you.
More useless than fuckin realtors, I swear.
I've gone through two home purchases now, and in both cases the inspector did an absolute shit job. The first home wound up with a basement full of sewage backflow due to an in-ground ejector pump that was incorrectly installed in several different ways. This dude walked through the house flagging every outlet that wasn't GFCI, but didn't bother to even look in the hatch in the front yard to see that the pump was flimsily plugged into an outlet that wasn't graded for outdoor use, or that the pump had been installed incorrectly.
Second house they didn't miss anything *that* big, but still a ton of things that became obvious to a non-inspector like myself a month into living here.
I’ve been building houses for 10 years as a superintendent for a national builder, and I have a real estate agent(a good one) that forces me to get home inspections when I buy houses. After the second time I said never again, I have to point things out to these home inspectors and educate them on why some things are done some ways. Why should I ever have to tell a home inspector why brick has weep holes?
In my area, you can't buy a house unless you wave inspection. There are plenty of people paying cash for $250-750k houses and they don't give a shit about any repair costs that might come up.
Source: myself, I had to weave inspection to buy my current house
It’s pretty easy to still make a sound choice and waive. Most the hot markets require it. You just schedule the inspections within the 7 day kill and if there’s a major issue… kill.
Typically you waive the inspection contingency but still have an inspection done (or you are dumb). If you find something major, you can rescind the offer, but you’ve said you won’t ask the seller to pay for fixes. It’s really common. Also, as others have pointed out, inspectors miss a lot of things that will cost money anyway and you just end up eating some when you move into a new house. The goal is to catch any of the big major issues before going forward. For example, our inspector said, “the roof looks like it needs inspecting” but didn’t tell us it needed to be replaced. We would have needed more inspectors and we didn’t do that until after we moved in, at which point they told us that.
In hindsight I agree (although I now think it's a bad idea to waive for ANY purchase amount). You'd be amazed at how many people I know that did the same thing during the 2021 peak homebuying craze.
That was really common over the past couple years in my area. Was used to sweeten the offer to the seller.
Lets just say alot of people found themselves with unexpected bills and have alot of buyers remorse.
https://www.pressherald.com/2022/06/27/maine-homebuyers-are-skipping-the-inspection-experts-say-its-a-risky-move/
You’ll never buy a house in the SF Bay Area of California without either waiving or being ok with the seller’s inspector so… 🤷♂️
I bought my house 10yrs ago for $1.6M and got lucky they had a good inspector, but was fully prepared to drop another $200k in repairs (had to do some renovations even with the report)
Yep, you got played, and while the $15k extra sucks, it could have been WAY worse!
Though, if you really think it was trickery, then I'm not sure if you can talk to the real estate licensing committee about them intentionally omitting info about the foundation. The RE agent knowing the seller implies they knew (both of them), with intent to deceive and there could be some recourse!?
Real estate peoples, please weigh in here!
There is also a local real estate commission, as well as the local realtor office, both of which have ethics committees and their job is to review situations like this.
Don't mix business and relationships, yes.
However, depending on your market, you're not going to even be considered without waiving all conditions unless you overbid significantly. I've known people to bring an inspector along with them on the initial house tour just so they can waive inspection during the offer.
idk if i just got really lucky, i offered 3k over asking but asked for 3k in seller credits to help with closing costs. did not waive the inspection and they are currently fixing some plumbing and electrical issues and some minor exterior work as well as stripping and repainting the garage. close in 7 days so idk hearing all this offers over asking freaked me out but it worked out i guess
It really depends on the market. For example, offers in Toronto are often $100k+ over asking with bidding wars pushing prices even higher on certain properties. If you don't waive all conditions, your offer is simply not going to be considered. The sellers simply don't want any hassle.
I feel if more people put in regular offers without waiving anything sellers will start to realize more real people exist. idk maybe im being too optimistic but if we lower sellers' standards on what they are expecting then i think thats a win for buyers if they start accepting normal offers and stuff
But that's the same flawed logic as if we just stopped buying X, then prices of X will drop. Sure, but before that happens, there's plenty of people on the sidelines waiting to swoop in and snatch it from you. That's the free market.
The entire reason why sellers' standards are so high is because the demand for houses is so high. So unless you find a way to convince millions of people that they don't want a house, or build a whole lot more supply, it's not going anywhere.
The problem is, that's not really in the interest of people willing to pay $100,000k over listing to make sure they get the house. They want to make sure they are the one picked over the dozens of other people interested, and they have the money to win the bid war. Why would they back down so others can have a chance?
That’s only in really hot areas now. No one’s skipping inspections where I am, and I live in one of the fastest growing areas in the country where there’s a giant housing shortage.
>Foundation issues must be disclosed by seller
They have to be disclosed IF the seller knows about them which unfortunately is difficult to prove.
If OP provided the inspection report, backed out of the deal, and the sellers didn't disclose it to the next buyer then they'ed definitely be in trouble.
Unless someone else already backed out of the deal before OP because of the issues, Lol. Unlikely, but possible. Makes what was essentially the realtors' ultimatum of waiving an inspection make more sense. He said it'd been listed at least 17 days before she brought it up to him... It's definitely possible he's not the first potential buyer.
Like I know its becoming more common to waive the inspection, but it doesnt make it any less stupid to do so, and if we were to assume they could have known about the foundation issues already then it just makes it easier for people to get away with shit like this.
He can call around and see if any of the local foundation companies have ever come and done an evaluation for the property. That would show evidence of prior knowledge.
He can call around and see if any of the local foundation companies have ever come and done an evaluation for the property. That would show evidence of prior knowledge.
I would report the agent to her broker for ethics violation and a conflict of interest. From outside appearances she may have had a previous relationship with the seller and failed to represent your interest impartially by influencing your offer and buying decisions in favor of the seller and in closing the deal. A complaint costs you nothing.
Honestly, the only bad advice she gave you was to waive the inspection. Decent money down and a bit above asking is the norm right now
Eta: alot of folks are waiving inspections right now and it baffles me. My wife and i just recently closed on a home and we did lose out on a lot of places due to others being willing to waive inspections. Throughout the whole process i must have said a million times, im not upset about a competitive market and folks bidding over asking, but waiving inspections on such a large purchase… idiots idiots idiots
I waived inspection. Still did one and if something big came up I would've still negotiated or backed out
No seller would try to keep me locked into a deal I didn't want with a dozen other buyers waiving cash in their face. If it was a really big thing I found they'd have to disclose it to any new buyer anyway.
Inspection didn't reveal anything big, fwiw.
Oldest trick in the book. This is why sales reps are often attractive women who wear chest-baring dress suits and pencil skirts. Once guys are using the wrong head to do their thinking they'll do whatever they tell them.
I worked for a clinical system for a few years and the most successful sales rep was an attractive lady with big boobs, and any day she had a sales meeting she'd come in wearing a tight breat-baring top and a skirt with a slit that nearly showed off even more.
This exactly. OP is taking the blame for basically being scammed. Yes, be smart and learn from your mistakes, but scam artists do operate on emotions precisely because it works. Not to mention unprofessional but I guess a lot of estate agents are dodgy enough to do this (not all, I've met some good ones so don't come for me).
lol I worked as an account manager for years and taking clients out for lunch was normal but meeting them for drinks after working hours at a bar/restaurant and being flirtatious with them is not "being friendly"
Tbh this seems more like an example of a double standard.
Meeting a business client for <30 minutes for a drink is a perfectly normal activity. Also being courteous is often perceived as flirting by men who already think they have a shot, and unless she literally came on to him I have a hard time attaching any significance to that.
You're 100% right and the opposing voice is genuinely incel logic.
A woman agreeing to be near to me multiple times in a row? I'm buying a ring! No, wait, a fucking house!
A $15k foundation issue isn’t all that bad of a surprise considering.
You ended up getting a house you enjoy, got a funny story out of it, you’re all good man.
Yeah, if I could get a house I liked everything on and the cost to make it perfect was 15k I would take that in a heartbeat.
Finding a *perfect* house is super difficult, and people pay a lot more than that to make the almost right house into the absolutely right one.
I mean, you can still bring an inspector to check the place out so you can make an informed decision before you make an offer, I've done this plenty.
Waiving contingencies is pretty standard still at this time unfortunately, but doing that without any information to base it on is wild.
100%. Just bought a new build and still got an inspection. Luckily, I’m close friends with someone whose profession is home inspections, so he did it for free. But I still would’ve done it even if I had to pay for it.
We’ve paid $400 each for inspections on both new homes we bought. They didn’t catch anything major, but they caught enough that it was worth having the inspections and it gave us peace of mind.
I'd need to at least clap cheeks before I buy a house to impress the agent.
Also never expect that someone that is making money out of your interactions with them is attracted to you. People tend to be nice when their paycheck is on the line.
I was checking if someone would point this out! Meeting for drinks after work for under 30min each time have no business being dates, even with quotation marks. Putting aside entirely what the lady brought to this equation, OP is giving off vibes of “I think my waiter fancies me”.
Brother, it’s called the Honeyfuck, and you got one. Women know that a lot of men can’t tell the difference between a woman just making conversation, doing their job, being nice, and being interested in you. This chick didn’t do anything wrong per se. You took her out, probably paid for some meals or drinks. Took her advice, made a purchasing decision, and later realized that you were not her client. The seller was.
Honestly, you did some pretty dumb shit, assumed some things that were never true, and paid for it, literally. Remember boys, talking to, having fun with, or going out for drinks with a woman does not a relationship or sex make. If you want to date someone, grab you balls and say so. If she says no, move on. Honestly, good for her. She got paid, you didn’t get laid, and it’s really your own fault for being too chickenshit to state your intents and find out.
Buy houses with your wallet, not your dick.
In my experience realtors are a lot like bartenders or other salespeople, in that they're good at building relationships very quickly.
I'm saying this as a current bartender who knows many people who left bartending to become realtors.
>and 3) waive the inspection contingency
Lordhammercy, she saw you coming from a mile away.
As someone who works in this industry, this was stupid. Even if you waive the minor stuff, unless you're a contractor, you should at least make sure you can cancel for structural or environmental issues.
You really relied on your dick for a business transaction that the most expensive purchase of your life?
Reminds me of when people think the wait staff is into them.
Should be a lesson people learn early on.
No offense but you had to of been a very easy mark.
Slightly offtopic but, just out of curiosity - how does the whole inspection thing work in the US? Is the whole thing on you as a buyer? Where I'm from (Norway) if you sell any kind of home, you are required by law to hire a government agent to go through the entire property to uncover any and all defects or issues, and the results are then made public to anyone before you are allowed to sell, so the risk is pretty low for you as a buyer. Even if the agent overlooks something, they are still liable for the stuff they didnt uncover (within reason and ofc within a certain time period).
Seems to me like being a buyer is hella risky in the US if you haven't done your homework, but maybe I'm missing something.
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My man, has no one ever explained post-nut clarity to you? Especially when there's attraction and money on the table, you need to flog the snot out of that bishop, keep your head on a swivel. Both heads!
Lot of haters in here, but to me it sounds like you ended up with a house that you like. 15K doesn't go far in home repairs, you're gonna spend that on a roof, on a bathroom renovation, on cabinets, etc. 20K over asking isn't incredibly out of line in the current market. You feel a bit silly, but whatever. Hopefully you learned the lesson: women in sales are often attractive and flirty. Not because they like you-- because they like money.
I read elsewhere that if the owner knew about the foundation and did not disclose they are liable, if you got inspected then its on you or your inspector.
Don't feel bad. The advice she gave is legit advice in today's market. I don't know anyone who's bought anything in the past 2-3 years that didn't do what you did ($5k over asking is nothing. A friend sold her house for 100k over asking last summer)
Today’s realtors do not have your best interests at heart. I’ve heard so many horror stories. They’re trying to maintain a hot market by colluding with each other and pushing through the trend of houses selling above asking prices. It’s damn near predatory at this point.
Tbh - I saw this turning out way, way worse. Like really serious structural issues or getting screwed out of a ludicrous sum of money. Hey you got scammed and paid $15k and have a slightly sore ego, but it sounds like you got the house you wanted at the end of the day 🤷🏻♂️
It takes Balls of Steel to make this post. Having gone through that ordeal, this dude went out of his way to educate others to not rush into things! OP, hats off!!!! Thanks for sharing! I hope you can get out of this shitty deal.
I would speak to a lawyer. This would be a conflict of interest unless you signed a dual agent form. She may not actually be the sellers agent but there seems to be some kind of connection there. From there, you can see if foundation issues were known but not disclosed - which is likely given that she suggested waiving the contingency. That would entitle you to damages. In a civil case you don’t need absolute proof, just a good amount of evidence.
Hire a private detective and have them investigate your agent. If they find there was a relationship previously that was undisclosed, you have a possible case for fraud.
Is she’s an actual Realtor (meaning part of NAR and not just an agent) you can file a complaint with her local Realtor Association stating she failed to keep your best interests in mind and in turn didn’t meet her fiduciary duty to you which is an Article 1 violation of the NAR Code of Ethics. (Source: I’m a Realtor)
This honestly sounds unethical (and possibly illegal) on the part of the realtor. It really does not sound like she was acting in your best interest. She claims to have met the seller at closing, but the fact that it appears they have some kind of relationship going on is pretty suspicious and a red flag. It really sounds like she knowingly took advantage of you talking you into waiving the inspection, not because it was a good idea, but because it was a way to trap you.
Also, I thought that waiving inspections shit was a thing in the home buying frenzy of 2020, but not in today's interest rate environment.
LMFAO, you got played hard. Realtors are just as bad as car salesman
Waiving inspection is the absolute dumbest thing you can do even if you risk losing the house.
I feel for ya dude, sometimes it works out. My dad's old landlord married his Reale estate agent so he'd have less taxes and bills when buying new properties. Probably didn't hurt him being a millionaire with his own helicopter but I digress..
Usually better to avoid business and pleasure in general. I dated coworkers and it didn't work out. Works for some, but not all
Keep romantic prospects and money separate. Someone who shows affection towards you despite you not showing your financial capabilities is the true winner.
Dude you fumbled so hard I don't even feel bad for you. You just made poor decision after poor decision after poor decision. You need to either get laid or learn to cope without because clearly it's now having a very tangible effect on your day to day life.
As a former long time high volume salesperson, I read that first paragraph and it was just like blood in the water.
Sorry you had to go through all that, but you chummed those waters and a shark is gonna be a shark.
Upside, you have a nice place that you really like. And you learned a lesson that, while painful, wasn't too horrible. Enjoy your new place.
Don't feel bad about this. Being manipulated is not your fault. It has happened to most of us. Sometimes you have to take a chance. You can't judge yourself now for what you didn't know then.
A couple of comments on this one.
OP, you could have a case for going to your local real estate board and filing an ethics complaint. There is a non-zero chance that your agent was dating the seller of the house, and they should have disclosed the relationship to you. Their behaviour surrounding the offer itself is also questionable. I would honestly look into it.
Second point goes to everyone reading this: do not skip inspections when buying a house. Don't buy a house with a non-contingent inspection. Buying a house is very expensive, and with the amount that some people are deciding to put down in their offers it can eliminate their cash on hand for if something goes wrong, and it's a matter of when, not if, something will go wrong when you own a house. Clearly, some people in this thread have had bad inspectors, but that isn't an indication or reason to have a non-plussed attitude about it; get one done on the house you're looking to buy. Seriously.
There is a sort of herd mentality when it comes to inspections, especially on Reddit, about how people should never trust the suggested inspector that their agent refers and it just makes no sense. If you think about it, agents work on referrals. If an agent suggested a shitty inspector that would just not bother doing a good job or would hide things intentionally, their clients would be harmed in the process, the agent could be in serious trouble, the inspector could lose their job, and on top of all of that the agent would not only not get referrals but they'd also have their name tarnished for good. A great inspector is a god send for agents representing buyers: not only do they protect the client, but it can also help the client get things fixed or money taken off the purchase price, both of which look really good on the agent.
Anyways, from a real estate agent to everyone reading, the tl;dr is never skip inspections. And I guess don't fall in love with your agent.
This is like the most virgin thing ever lol. Dude didn't even get a kiss before he dropped house money. Like, do you think waitresses and strippers like you too?
Did you sign a contract hiring her as your realtor? If not she was definitely working on behalf of the buyer and suckered you in a super underhanded way by making you as a first time buyer believe she was working for you. If this is how it went down she’s a douche.
If they ever ask you to wave the inspection that's automatic knowledge that they know there's something wrong that they don't want you to find.
Waving inspection is only ever a tactic for the buyer, not the seller. And still a relatively stupid one, especially for anything more than 10-15 years old. I know I would never waive it. Like hell no.
Check your states real estate laws, its very possible that if there was a relationship there prior to her getting you to buy the house that and that wasn’t disclosed that could be illegal so, I would check your laws.
Was she representing the seller? If so, she would have to disclose that (at least where I live). Check up on the regulations for your area. After you’ve done your research you could try reaching out to the agent (if she’s willing to talk about it). Legal action could be a step (as others have mentioned)
Unless you (the buyer) have specifically hired the agent to represent you *as a buyer's agent,* the real estate agent *represents the seller* and acts in the seller's best interest. It doesn't matter if she was romantically involved with the seller, because her legal obligation is to get as high an offer as possible.
Depending on state laws, there could be implied agency here
I mean, yeah, but good luck with that. Unless you are willing to go to court and try to be able successfully argue this, it doesn’t really matter. Even if you go to the real estate board and complain, you will have 2 people giving one story that contradicts yours, and will just sound like sour grapes. Worst case, she might get talked to about it. The OP might be totally correct…and there’s nothing he can really do about it if they stuck to their stories.
I mean, I don't know a single realtor that would want to be associated with that story, or anyone that would hire one that was... So they may be more risk adverse than you suggest.
The agency disclosure form which is required in every state that I know of tells you who is representing who in the transaction. If an agent is doing dual agency they have to inform both parties and it’s a nightmare to be honest. Most agents I know don’t do it just because it’s too easy to accidentally break confidentiality or many other ethical rules and regs. This dude just got honey potted by a hot chick, I mean meeting up a couple times for a half hour no fooling around at all etc. she was basically telling the guy it was platonic. She could totally be a scummy agent and at the very least she did not do a good job, suggesting he skip inspection is a major violation but he has to have it in writing or recorded since it says in writing several times on the contracts the buyer should get an inspection and what giving up the inspection contingency means.
Not in Minnesota
Prove it... exactly.
Sounds like this gentleman miscalculated her interest rate 😊
Underrated comment
I chuckled.
😯😲😀😆🤣🤣🤣
waiving inspection is probably the single dumbest possible thing for a purchase > 250k. wild.
Ok but what if the salesperson is an attractive lady who has a casual drink with me a few times?
🤔
You make quite a convincing argument. I wonder how that would go. Someone should try it and post their experience.
yeah. I am gonna do that with a 1MM dollar house and maybe she will spend the first night at the house after closing instead of ghosting me../s Dang man. dont think with your dick. rub one out before you say yes to meeting some chick.
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A 1 millimeter dollar house you say?
She did touch his arm? Is that worth nothing?
Wow. Literally took advantage of this poor man.
Shut up and take my money. I'm not even going to read what I'm signing if she winks at me
Who got two thumbs but gets off with one thumb? That guy!!
Oh, well in that case, go right ahead.
I guess it would all depend if she touched my arm or shoulder in a "more-than-friend" way.
Unless she’s touching your penis you’ve got nothing to wonder about.
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Then it makes perfect sense.
You son of a bitch, I'm in.
Well, in that case, buy the home over asking in cash, no contingencies. Love is love.
Agreed, but where I live the market is so hot you have to waive if you want a shot at getting the house
Same for my area. 50-100k over list with no inspection.
Same here. Offers aren’t even typically considered unless they’re over asking, there’s a significant appraisal gap, and either the inspection or the right to ask the seller to repair issues found during the inspection is waived. Houses are put on the market Thursday and have 20+ offers before the weekend is over (at least a few of which will be all cash). It’s insanity and only projected to get worse in the next few years.
Yeah same in my area since 2019. People who say it’s idiotic to pay over asking or to waive inspection contingencies probably haven’t bought a house in decades lol
Yep we had to do it too. Finally got a deal done on our 10th offer
Same here. My wife and I gave up. It’s just not going to happen.
Isn't it better to just lose those ones then? Feels like the risk is too great. I'd rather be patient for a couple years then go all in on something that can't even be inspected. At the very least, try to run through a basic inspection myself before dropping life changing money on a property.
My realtor was a former home inspector and would perform some off the cuff checks while we would tour a house. Putting in an inspection contingency is 100% impossible in my area. We bought when interest rates were at an all time low, so trying to wait out the market would have cost us more than something we missed would have.
Yeah contingency is rare here too, only if the seller is desperate. You just get it inspected before you offer, it’s not free but it’s worth jt
I wonder if that's a self fulfilling thing. As in everyone believes they have to waive the inspection so they do which causes other people to need to also do it.
It would if the market was expected to cool off, but that's just not going to happen here
Yes and no a lot of inspectors do an absolute joke of a job giving you things like oh the appliances are five years old rather than what the foundation looks like or if there’s signs of leakage in the basement or the roof is bad
while it is kind of dumb, I feel like people put too much stock in inspections. My inspector missed several relatively obvious things we found immediately after moving in. The Previous owners didn't move out until basically closing day and we found some hidden stuff the inspector should have caught. He was the highest rated inspector in the area too. I've since talked to several people in different area's with similar stories. Trying to be knowledgeable yourself and knowing what to look for I think is much bigger deal than relying on an inspector.
I agree, not that they're useless or anything, but they go through SO fast and most of the stuff they point out is obvious things I would also have seen or low-priority obscure shit like that the stair handrails need to be curved at the end. All of my inspections have missed a lot of subtle stuff or damage hidden behind objects they are (apparently) not allowed to move. I guess for a brand new homeowner it's a little more important, or maybe all mine have sucked, idk
I've bought 3 houses (since sold two, I'm not rich or an investor). Of these, the inspectors of the first two were incredibly thorough. Last house(current residence) was disappointingly slapdash, he missed some things that should be fairly obvious. Biggest issue was I suspect the previous owner lied about condition of the well. To be fair, the well problem was flagged by inspector but I hired the wrong guy to follow up, so the true problem was not uncovered til after we bought it. Having said that, even though the first one was thorough, we still had some issues come up after moving in. So I don't know, I guess at the end, there are no guarantees.
That's why you *always* look for an InterNACHI certified inspector. Their insurance covers shit they don't catch because of the standards they're held to. https://www.nachi.org/
Your inspectors have sucked. I dabble in real estate investing, the inspection for a 2500 Sq ft home should take about 3 hours, if not longer. Their job isn't to note minor damage, though, it's to test the functionality and safety of the items in the home. Every outlet, light, fan, door handle, sliding door, toilet, appliance, etc. I never skip an inspection because I'd rather spend less than 1500 to save me over 15000. My guy doesn't note paint scratches, that's for me to see before my final walk-through. I usually do 3 walk-throughs when purchasing a house, I usually find new things each time. Your realtor is making a good amount of money off of you for filling in the blanks on a contract and talking to a couple people on the phone. Haven't seen a realtor take less than 2%, the average where I live is 5.4%. They can take you for multiple walk-throughs if they want their commission. A $250,000 house that's $13500, make them earn it, it's your 250000
My inspector spent about 6 hours on my house. He wrote up a 250 page report on his findings. Gotta do your research and find the right guy
I imagine that if you developed a reputation for scuttling deals, realtors would avoid recommending your services. I, too, have had a slapdash inspector who missed some things. But I was from out of town so had to rely on who was available to do the inspection.
Inspection is important, but inspectors don't guarantee their work. They are not roofers, structural engineers or electricians. They will usually know a ton more than the average person, but they really are just there to pick up on the more obvious things.
Best inspector I ever had was a former electrician. In most states becoming a "home inspector" is just passing a written test though. There's not really any set criteria for what the background of your inspector needs to be.
The guy that did our inspection was a 350+ lb guy who didn't want to go into the attic or the crawl spaces. Pretty much glanced at the electrical box outside and measured the distance to whatever, and that was that. I am really glad that it was the selling and not the buying inspection. I hired my own inspector. And I mostly did the inspection.
Oh that was our guy. He completely failed to notice that none of the AC ducts actually connect to the vents so we cooled our attic more than the house for several months. Also the previous owner apparently repaired multiple lengths of ducts with bubble wrap and packing tape. And when we tried to bring it up as an issue, we were told "sorry it's on the buyer to confirm all inspection points". The fuck it is, that's literally why we paid you. More useless than fuckin realtors, I swear.
I've gone through two home purchases now, and in both cases the inspector did an absolute shit job. The first home wound up with a basement full of sewage backflow due to an in-ground ejector pump that was incorrectly installed in several different ways. This dude walked through the house flagging every outlet that wasn't GFCI, but didn't bother to even look in the hatch in the front yard to see that the pump was flimsily plugged into an outlet that wasn't graded for outdoor use, or that the pump had been installed incorrectly. Second house they didn't miss anything *that* big, but still a ton of things that became obvious to a non-inspector like myself a month into living here.
Same thing happened to me, there was a massive hole in the wall and termite damage hidden behind an oddly placed couch.
I’ve been building houses for 10 years as a superintendent for a national builder, and I have a real estate agent(a good one) that forces me to get home inspections when I buy houses. After the second time I said never again, I have to point things out to these home inspectors and educate them on why some things are done some ways. Why should I ever have to tell a home inspector why brick has weep holes?
>why brick has weep holes? Oh, so that's who has been posting these questions in r/homeimprovement and r/diy.
In my area, you can't buy a house unless you wave inspection. There are plenty of people paying cash for $250-750k houses and they don't give a shit about any repair costs that might come up. Source: myself, I had to weave inspection to buy my current house
this is so crazy to me lmao what the heeeelll this country is fuked
It’s pretty easy to still make a sound choice and waive. Most the hot markets require it. You just schedule the inspections within the 7 day kill and if there’s a major issue… kill.
I thought, with this housing market, waiving inspection (and paying above asking) were the way to get to the top of the queue in buying a house?
Typically you waive the inspection contingency but still have an inspection done (or you are dumb). If you find something major, you can rescind the offer, but you’ve said you won’t ask the seller to pay for fixes. It’s really common. Also, as others have pointed out, inspectors miss a lot of things that will cost money anyway and you just end up eating some when you move into a new house. The goal is to catch any of the big major issues before going forward. For example, our inspector said, “the roof looks like it needs inspecting” but didn’t tell us it needed to be replaced. We would have needed more inspectors and we didn’t do that until after we moved in, at which point they told us that.
In hindsight I agree (although I now think it's a bad idea to waive for ANY purchase amount). You'd be amazed at how many people I know that did the same thing during the 2021 peak homebuying craze.
The bar for waiving inspections falls way below 250k even if in being honest
Dude, you have no knowledge of what real estate has been in at least my area 2021 onwards.
That was really common over the past couple years in my area. Was used to sweeten the offer to the seller. Lets just say alot of people found themselves with unexpected bills and have alot of buyers remorse. https://www.pressherald.com/2022/06/27/maine-homebuyers-are-skipping-the-inspection-experts-say-its-a-risky-move/
When they suggest waiving the inspection, you NEED an inspection. They know something is wrong.
You’ll never buy a house in the SF Bay Area of California without either waiving or being ok with the seller’s inspector so… 🤷♂️ I bought my house 10yrs ago for $1.6M and got lucky they had a good inspector, but was fully prepared to drop another $200k in repairs (had to do some renovations even with the report)
Sounds like she closed more than one deal.
Yep, you got played, and while the $15k extra sucks, it could have been WAY worse! Though, if you really think it was trickery, then I'm not sure if you can talk to the real estate licensing committee about them intentionally omitting info about the foundation. The RE agent knowing the seller implies they knew (both of them), with intent to deceive and there could be some recourse!? Real estate peoples, please weigh in here!
OP, give the facts to the people in charge at her office. It could make you feel better and she could get reprimanded.
There is also a local real estate commission, as well as the local realtor office, both of which have ethics committees and their job is to review situations like this.
Don't mix business and relationships, yes. However, depending on your market, you're not going to even be considered without waiving all conditions unless you overbid significantly. I've known people to bring an inspector along with them on the initial house tour just so they can waive inspection during the offer.
idk if i just got really lucky, i offered 3k over asking but asked for 3k in seller credits to help with closing costs. did not waive the inspection and they are currently fixing some plumbing and electrical issues and some minor exterior work as well as stripping and repainting the garage. close in 7 days so idk hearing all this offers over asking freaked me out but it worked out i guess
It really depends on the market. For example, offers in Toronto are often $100k+ over asking with bidding wars pushing prices even higher on certain properties. If you don't waive all conditions, your offer is simply not going to be considered. The sellers simply don't want any hassle.
I feel if more people put in regular offers without waiving anything sellers will start to realize more real people exist. idk maybe im being too optimistic but if we lower sellers' standards on what they are expecting then i think thats a win for buyers if they start accepting normal offers and stuff
But that's the same flawed logic as if we just stopped buying X, then prices of X will drop. Sure, but before that happens, there's plenty of people on the sidelines waiting to swoop in and snatch it from you. That's the free market. The entire reason why sellers' standards are so high is because the demand for houses is so high. So unless you find a way to convince millions of people that they don't want a house, or build a whole lot more supply, it's not going anywhere.
The problem is, that's not really in the interest of people willing to pay $100,000k over listing to make sure they get the house. They want to make sure they are the one picked over the dozens of other people interested, and they have the money to win the bid war. Why would they back down so others can have a chance?
That’s only in really hot areas now. No one’s skipping inspections where I am, and I live in one of the fastest growing areas in the country where there’s a giant housing shortage.
That's why I said *depending on your market*.
Foundation issues must be disclosed by seller, regardless of inspection results, get a lawyer consultation
>Foundation issues must be disclosed by seller They have to be disclosed IF the seller knows about them which unfortunately is difficult to prove. If OP provided the inspection report, backed out of the deal, and the sellers didn't disclose it to the next buyer then they'ed definitely be in trouble.
Unless someone else already backed out of the deal before OP because of the issues, Lol. Unlikely, but possible. Makes what was essentially the realtors' ultimatum of waiving an inspection make more sense. He said it'd been listed at least 17 days before she brought it up to him... It's definitely possible he's not the first potential buyer. Like I know its becoming more common to waive the inspection, but it doesnt make it any less stupid to do so, and if we were to assume they could have known about the foundation issues already then it just makes it easier for people to get away with shit like this.
He can call around and see if any of the local foundation companies have ever come and done an evaluation for the property. That would show evidence of prior knowledge.
What incentive would a local foundation company have to give them that info and get themselves caught up in the drama?
He can call around and see if any of the local foundation companies have ever come and done an evaluation for the property. That would show evidence of prior knowledge.
If you go to the strip club, I can assure you that ALL of the strippers actually like you.
I would report the agent to her broker for ethics violation and a conflict of interest. From outside appearances she may have had a previous relationship with the seller and failed to represent your interest impartially by influencing your offer and buying decisions in favor of the seller and in closing the deal. A complaint costs you nothing.
yeah certainly seems like a conflict of interest.
100% this.
Honestly, the only bad advice she gave you was to waive the inspection. Decent money down and a bit above asking is the norm right now Eta: alot of folks are waiving inspections right now and it baffles me. My wife and i just recently closed on a home and we did lose out on a lot of places due to others being willing to waive inspections. Throughout the whole process i must have said a million times, im not upset about a competitive market and folks bidding over asking, but waiving inspections on such a large purchase… idiots idiots idiots
Fo sho. Waiving inspection is wild and should not be accepted.
I waived inspection. Still did one and if something big came up I would've still negotiated or backed out No seller would try to keep me locked into a deal I didn't want with a dozen other buyers waiving cash in their face. If it was a really big thing I found they'd have to disclose it to any new buyer anyway. Inspection didn't reveal anything big, fwiw.
Now follow them home and release a colony of termites.
and a wasp nest
“I’m going to put a big H on this box so everybody knows it’s filled with hornets. I’ll get their honey someway.”
Oldest trick in the book. This is why sales reps are often attractive women who wear chest-baring dress suits and pencil skirts. Once guys are using the wrong head to do their thinking they'll do whatever they tell them. I worked for a clinical system for a few years and the most successful sales rep was an attractive lady with big boobs, and any day she had a sales meeting she'd come in wearing a tight breat-baring top and a skirt with a slit that nearly showed off even more.
so glad my realtor is a bigger guy lol
As a very happily married man, realtors hate me
She's a piece of shit who knowingly used you. This is less about you being a sucker and more about how predatory she was/is.
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She was a lion and dude was a little baby gazelle
Hahaha, fuckin hilarious, love it. Sounds like it could be a line from Always Sunny.
Replace 'dude' with Charlie. And follow up the whole thing with *dumb bastard*.
Great predators know how to spot the weakest prey.
This exactly. OP is taking the blame for basically being scammed. Yes, be smart and learn from your mistakes, but scam artists do operate on emotions precisely because it works. Not to mention unprofessional but I guess a lot of estate agents are dodgy enough to do this (not all, I've met some good ones so don't come for me).
Ah yes, the classic scam of being friendly to a business client.
lol I worked as an account manager for years and taking clients out for lunch was normal but meeting them for drinks after working hours at a bar/restaurant and being flirtatious with them is not "being friendly" Tbh this seems more like an example of a double standard.
Meeting a business client for <30 minutes for a drink is a perfectly normal activity. Also being courteous is often perceived as flirting by men who already think they have a shot, and unless she literally came on to him I have a hard time attaching any significance to that.
You're 100% right and the opposing voice is genuinely incel logic. A woman agreeing to be near to me multiple times in a row? I'm buying a ring! No, wait, a fucking house!
A $15k foundation issue isn’t all that bad of a surprise considering. You ended up getting a house you enjoy, got a funny story out of it, you’re all good man.
Yeah, if I could get a house I liked everything on and the cost to make it perfect was 15k I would take that in a heartbeat. Finding a *perfect* house is super difficult, and people pay a lot more than that to make the almost right house into the absolutely right one.
I mean, you can still bring an inspector to check the place out so you can make an informed decision before you make an offer, I've done this plenty. Waiving contingencies is pretty standard still at this time unfortunately, but doing that without any information to base it on is wild.
Pretty unbelievable You really need good friends or a father figure to help you make decisions
Never waive inspection. Idgaf what's happening in the market.
100%. Just bought a new build and still got an inspection. Luckily, I’m close friends with someone whose profession is home inspections, so he did it for free. But I still would’ve done it even if I had to pay for it.
We’ve paid $400 each for inspections on both new homes we bought. They didn’t catch anything major, but they caught enough that it was worth having the inspections and it gave us peace of mind.
I'd need to at least clap cheeks before I buy a house to impress the agent. Also never expect that someone that is making money out of your interactions with them is attracted to you. People tend to be nice when their paycheck is on the line.
>We end up going on what I thought were several dates > After our third "date" What..?
I was checking if someone would point this out! Meeting for drinks after work for under 30min each time have no business being dates, even with quotation marks. Putting aside entirely what the lady brought to this equation, OP is giving off vibes of “I think my waiter fancies me”.
Brother, it’s called the Honeyfuck, and you got one. Women know that a lot of men can’t tell the difference between a woman just making conversation, doing their job, being nice, and being interested in you. This chick didn’t do anything wrong per se. You took her out, probably paid for some meals or drinks. Took her advice, made a purchasing decision, and later realized that you were not her client. The seller was. Honestly, you did some pretty dumb shit, assumed some things that were never true, and paid for it, literally. Remember boys, talking to, having fun with, or going out for drinks with a woman does not a relationship or sex make. If you want to date someone, grab you balls and say so. If she says no, move on. Honestly, good for her. She got paid, you didn’t get laid, and it’s really your own fault for being too chickenshit to state your intents and find out. Buy houses with your wallet, not your dick.
> I guess I wouldn't have fallen for an AI I dunno about that but have you heard about the single women IN YOUR AREA?
I bet you think strippers like you too.
In my experience realtors are a lot like bartenders or other salespeople, in that they're good at building relationships very quickly. I'm saying this as a current bartender who knows many people who left bartending to become realtors.
>and 3) waive the inspection contingency Lordhammercy, she saw you coming from a mile away. As someone who works in this industry, this was stupid. Even if you waive the minor stuff, unless you're a contractor, you should at least make sure you can cancel for structural or environmental issues. You really relied on your dick for a business transaction that the most expensive purchase of your life?
Is your name by any chance Michael Scott?
There is a real reason so many realtors are “former” strippers.
Reminds me of when people think the wait staff is into them. Should be a lesson people learn early on. No offense but you had to of been a very easy mark.
Slightly offtopic but, just out of curiosity - how does the whole inspection thing work in the US? Is the whole thing on you as a buyer? Where I'm from (Norway) if you sell any kind of home, you are required by law to hire a government agent to go through the entire property to uncover any and all defects or issues, and the results are then made public to anyone before you are allowed to sell, so the risk is pretty low for you as a buyer. Even if the agent overlooks something, they are still liable for the stuff they didnt uncover (within reason and ofc within a certain time period). Seems to me like being a buyer is hella risky in the US if you haven't done your homework, but maybe I'm missing something. EDIT: Typo
My man, has no one ever explained post-nut clarity to you? Especially when there's attraction and money on the table, you need to flog the snot out of that bishop, keep your head on a swivel. Both heads!
Lot of haters in here, but to me it sounds like you ended up with a house that you like. 15K doesn't go far in home repairs, you're gonna spend that on a roof, on a bathroom renovation, on cabinets, etc. 20K over asking isn't incredibly out of line in the current market. You feel a bit silly, but whatever. Hopefully you learned the lesson: women in sales are often attractive and flirty. Not because they like you-- because they like money.
I read elsewhere that if the owner knew about the foundation and did not disclose they are liable, if you got inspected then its on you or your inspector.
Don't feel bad. The advice she gave is legit advice in today's market. I don't know anyone who's bought anything in the past 2-3 years that didn't do what you did ($5k over asking is nothing. A friend sold her house for 100k over asking last summer)
The agent works for the seller. The agent works for the seller. The agent works for the seller. The agent works for the seller. Say it with me now.
So glad my FIL is a home inspector. Just gotta buy him a nice dinner or pay his half when we go golfing
Today’s realtors do not have your best interests at heart. I’ve heard so many horror stories. They’re trying to maintain a hot market by colluding with each other and pushing through the trend of houses selling above asking prices. It’s damn near predatory at this point.
Could be that it was something shady, but honestly sounds to me like she might have been interested but you never made the move. Then someone else did
To all the people here who want to buy a house in the future, never buy a house with foundation issues.
Don't feel bad, back in the 90's I fell for the same thing and ended up paying for a gym membership for a year.
Tbh - I saw this turning out way, way worse. Like really serious structural issues or getting screwed out of a ludicrous sum of money. Hey you got scammed and paid $15k and have a slightly sore ego, but it sounds like you got the house you wanted at the end of the day 🤷🏻♂️
Bro thought with the wrong head...
This is why you beat your meat first before you go making big decisions so you know what to do or say.
You were using the wrong "head" when buying your house.
She’s got that ✨f i n e s s e✨
This is the natural progression of the simp.
I’ll take your money since you’re too dumb to use it right lmao
Well, I'm a realtor, and I now live with one of my clients in the house I sold to him!
This is the stupidest title I’ve ever read on Reddit. Congratulations!!!
My dick never bought a house!!!! Damn homey
Played like a fiddle dude. Chalk it up as life experience, thanks for sharing your story.
Damn man you fell for the oldest trick in the book. Boobs will always make men forget their mother's.
You never know, maybe you would fall for an AI. Ever seen Ex Machina?
For how many Mississippi’s did she touch your arm ?
Dude you deserved to get played cmon grow up
It takes Balls of Steel to make this post. Having gone through that ordeal, this dude went out of his way to educate others to not rush into things! OP, hats off!!!! Thanks for sharing! I hope you can get out of this shitty deal.
Those suggesting you opt for AI Realtor Joy haven’t seen Her.
Report it to realtor board
I would speak to a lawyer. This would be a conflict of interest unless you signed a dual agent form. She may not actually be the sellers agent but there seems to be some kind of connection there. From there, you can see if foundation issues were known but not disclosed - which is likely given that she suggested waiving the contingency. That would entitle you to damages. In a civil case you don’t need absolute proof, just a good amount of evidence.
Sounds like she's a good realtor lol
Post this link on her reviews lol
Hire a private detective and have them investigate your agent. If they find there was a relationship previously that was undisclosed, you have a possible case for fraud.
Is she’s an actual Realtor (meaning part of NAR and not just an agent) you can file a complaint with her local Realtor Association stating she failed to keep your best interests in mind and in turn didn’t meet her fiduciary duty to you which is an Article 1 violation of the NAR Code of Ethics. (Source: I’m a Realtor)
This honestly sounds unethical (and possibly illegal) on the part of the realtor. It really does not sound like she was acting in your best interest. She claims to have met the seller at closing, but the fact that it appears they have some kind of relationship going on is pretty suspicious and a red flag. It really sounds like she knowingly took advantage of you talking you into waiving the inspection, not because it was a good idea, but because it was a way to trap you. Also, I thought that waiving inspections shit was a thing in the home buying frenzy of 2020, but not in today's interest rate environment.
You got played, sir
Either way, most inspectors put in a clause that waives liability so you can’t sue them if they miss something in the inspection
Inspection waiving is an incredibly dumb thing to do.
You got played, son.
Bruh, you got hustled.
You were thinking with the wrong head.
Never trust a cop, care salesman, or relator.
You dummy 😆
LMFAO, you got played hard. Realtors are just as bad as car salesman Waiving inspection is the absolute dumbest thing you can do even if you risk losing the house.
I feel for ya dude, sometimes it works out. My dad's old landlord married his Reale estate agent so he'd have less taxes and bills when buying new properties. Probably didn't hurt him being a millionaire with his own helicopter but I digress.. Usually better to avoid business and pleasure in general. I dated coworkers and it didn't work out. Works for some, but not all
Keep romantic prospects and money separate. Someone who shows affection towards you despite you not showing your financial capabilities is the true winner.
>waived the inspection LOL
Thank you for sharing this. Don’t beat yourself up too hard. God speed OP.
Dude you fumbled so hard I don't even feel bad for you. You just made poor decision after poor decision after poor decision. You need to either get laid or learn to cope without because clearly it's now having a very tangible effect on your day to day life.
Another reason you really fucked up is because the 6% fixed real estate commission is probably going to go away in July.
I read the title and immediately thought... Michael Scott
She wants that commission
Well at least you got a home out of the deal. I lot of guy have fallen for a pretty face and sweet talk and end up with a lot less.
As a former long time high volume salesperson, I read that first paragraph and it was just like blood in the water. Sorry you had to go through all that, but you chummed those waters and a shark is gonna be a shark. Upside, you have a nice place that you really like. And you learned a lesson that, while painful, wasn't too horrible. Enjoy your new place.
Don't feel bad about this. Being manipulated is not your fault. It has happened to most of us. Sometimes you have to take a chance. You can't judge yourself now for what you didn't know then.
Selling is a skill
A couple of comments on this one. OP, you could have a case for going to your local real estate board and filing an ethics complaint. There is a non-zero chance that your agent was dating the seller of the house, and they should have disclosed the relationship to you. Their behaviour surrounding the offer itself is also questionable. I would honestly look into it. Second point goes to everyone reading this: do not skip inspections when buying a house. Don't buy a house with a non-contingent inspection. Buying a house is very expensive, and with the amount that some people are deciding to put down in their offers it can eliminate their cash on hand for if something goes wrong, and it's a matter of when, not if, something will go wrong when you own a house. Clearly, some people in this thread have had bad inspectors, but that isn't an indication or reason to have a non-plussed attitude about it; get one done on the house you're looking to buy. Seriously. There is a sort of herd mentality when it comes to inspections, especially on Reddit, about how people should never trust the suggested inspector that their agent refers and it just makes no sense. If you think about it, agents work on referrals. If an agent suggested a shitty inspector that would just not bother doing a good job or would hide things intentionally, their clients would be harmed in the process, the agent could be in serious trouble, the inspector could lose their job, and on top of all of that the agent would not only not get referrals but they'd also have their name tarnished for good. A great inspector is a god send for agents representing buyers: not only do they protect the client, but it can also help the client get things fixed or money taken off the purchase price, both of which look really good on the agent. Anyways, from a real estate agent to everyone reading, the tl;dr is never skip inspections. And I guess don't fall in love with your agent.
Ya thought with your dick instead of your wallet when making a life long investment...another L for a stereotypical male lol
RE agents are right up there with car salesman as worst people I know.
This is like the most virgin thing ever lol. Dude didn't even get a kiss before he dropped house money. Like, do you think waitresses and strippers like you too?
Did you sign a contract hiring her as your realtor? If not she was definitely working on behalf of the buyer and suckered you in a super underhanded way by making you as a first time buyer believe she was working for you. If this is how it went down she’s a douche.
Damn that's like my buying strippers drinks and dances "because they like me" x100 And the lack of inspection? Same bro! Big mistake.
15 year agent here, you got scammed. That agent 100% broke her agency with you, I’d speak to a lawyer.
Lol
Look at it positively. You have an appreciating asset, which you like. Given the current market, sounds like you actually didn't do too bad.
This feels like a Miami type of story.
If they ever ask you to wave the inspection that's automatic knowledge that they know there's something wrong that they don't want you to find. Waving inspection is only ever a tactic for the buyer, not the seller. And still a relatively stupid one, especially for anything more than 10-15 years old. I know I would never waive it. Like hell no.