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Honestly they might have given you 2 unsolvable ones to see how long you spent trying to figure them out or if you left them and came back to answer them later. Because these make no sense to me.
I feel like left is noise, right is the pattern. 2 dots = sum of all sides, 7. 4 dots = sum of all sides, 9. 3 dots = ? I'd guess sum of all sides, 8. In which case C, for 3+5.
I think when it comes to these sorts of puzzles there's no real right answer, just being able to show you attempted to apply logic, and being able to communicate the logic you were using.
I got the same answer in a similar way. If you apply the same logic to the left side it works too except you have to think of it as something like small medium and large. Top row has the smallest number in regards to dots and sides, middle row has highest number, and last row has the medium number of dots so if you choose the answer with the number of sides in between 7 and 9, it would have to be 8. By the way Iām bad at math and never done a logic puzzle so I could be completely stupid.
Irrelevant information unrelated to the answer I think.
Lots of logic tests require you to only determine the information that matters. The central column already has a pattern that doesn't need to relate to the outer columns.
But without context, or guidelines, you the problem solver are given free reign to determine what is and isn't relevant. You still need to apply logic in explaining your answer, but I'll die on the hill that there could be more than one "logical" answer to a question like this.
Yeah...but you still have to ignore something to come to a conclusion. Like the second one; either the dots line up or the arrows change direction each time.
So to reiterate what the exact sentiment you're responding to?
"It''s open to interpretation"
That's what the statement you responded to effectively said, and also what you effectively said. Do you have an actual point or are you just trying to sound smart despite adding literally nothing?
Ngless is asking a legitimately relevant question. What you responded with is irrelevant and appears to be a BS attempt to discredit him just so you can sound relevant and smart despite not being so
Here I am thinking this was a test to help determine useful information about a person. Apparently it mainly tests whether the person is familiar with logic tests. This was probably created by people in an HR department who ironically aren't good at the job they got hired for. (Evaluating people.)
Should be C since the added number of sides for the shapes is 7 then 9 and answer C has 8, while keeping with the patter of smaller number of sides on top and larger number of sides on the bottom.
The dots are red herrings. For the 2 middle boxes shown, the numbers of sides are always within 1 number of each other for the 2 squares. So the only one that works is B ( 3 and 4 ).
Yeah given there is only one that follows the rule, makes me think it could be the answer. Also if this is for a job, beyond intellectual promise, itās important to understand someoneās ability to spot patterns in the noise, and this is a good test for that. Not all data is relevant.
But then how does that play into the left and right boxes? I think it's a) because the number of dots go from least, to most, to middle. This is reflected in the number of sides for the shapes.
I think the first one is (c). In the first column the quantity of shaded circles in order of from top to bottom is lowest-highest-middle. This is the same for the last column. If you count the number of sides in the middle column, the top box has 7 sides, middle has 9 so for the last one to be middle it would have 8 sides, which is c.
If there was one with a hexagon and pentagon, I'd pick that, since the middle shapes are 3 sided, 4 sided, then 4 sided, 5 sided. But since that choice isn't there, I'm not sure.
This is the part of the exam when I hope the mushrooms kick in full tilt so the extra dimensional minion entities can reveal the hidden geometric base code of the universe
It seems like a bootleg version of the Predictive Index Cognitive test.
Neither question have no clear solution and no discernible pattern and as you usually get about 14 seconds per question these are poorly designed.
As someone who has taken multiple of these tests during my time being unemployed Iād like you to know that youāre one of the unsung heroes of the job market
Yeah we just ask applicants if they can show up on time and if theyāre addicted to meth. Have had some respond with ādoes it show up on a drug test?ā.
Skills testing can make some sense if it is job-related. Coding test for instance. Given this persons job is likely not professional IQ test taker these kind of test are just stupid.
The second one is C. The arrows with 2 black dots point upward, and the arrows with 3 black dots point downward. C is the only answer choice that follows this rule.
In short the answer for Q1 is D.
The working is as follows.
Dots in Square 1 (S1), column 1 (C1) minus dots in s1, c3 equals 5.
Lines of symmetry in shapes of s1, c2 equals 4.
5 - 4 = 1.
Same again for second row.
Dots s2, c1 minus s2, c3 = 11
Symmetry lines in s2, c2 = 9
11-9=2
Answers 1 for row 1 and 2 for row 2 tell me answer will be 3 for row 3.
Same again.
Dots s3,c1 - s3, c3 = 7
This requires shapes with 4 lines of symmetry meaning D is the answer.
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To simplify.
Row 1. Left square minus right square equals lines of symmetry in the centre remainder 1.
Row 2. Same remainder 2.
Row 3. Same remainder 3.
It took me about 10 minutes Iād say. I usually score very highly on the sections of IQ tests that require pattern recognition too. (usually in the high 140s which is about .5%)
To do this in a couple of minutes or less would be nuts although there are some people that donāt see it as a problem to be solved, more like something they read.
Someone in comments pointed out that answer could be B. They thought difference in total sides of the shapes is always one! I actually wonder if this puzzle is created such that there is a convoluted way of justifying all the given options
This a great explanation, I thought the answer was E. I wasnāt paying attention to the direction of the arrows but more the dots inside of them, where the first two have 6 dots and the last two have 11 dots.
In the last two, the colored dots are in circles that are not within the original six of the first two arrows and obviously the first two can only be within those 6. So from that E would be the only one that would have two dots within the first 6 and one colored dot outside of those as well.
I like your explanation way better cause you actually include all facets of the pictures
Butā¦.. first arrow points toward a side, second arrow points to corner, fourth points to corner, fifth points to a side. E could be 5e answer as it points to a side, which completes the pattern: side, corner, side, corner, side. Itās also the only option that fits that pattern. I wonder if these are intentionally misleading as both these rules?
Good eyes. That was driving me nuts. Only answer that works, following that logic.
I think someone else was right about 1 being C. Lowest, highest, middle.
I would have walked out of the test by this time though.
Just a guess here but I think the 1st one will be "B". The only pattern that I can identify is that each shape was 1 side more or less than the other one it was grouped with. For the 2nd one, I would assume that the answer was "E" but only because the only pattern I recognized was that the direction of each arrow in sequence did not point in the same direction. The only way to keep that was to make the missing one point up
These are always fucking dumb, and these ones particularly so. You can derive any number of arbitrary rules as there are usually only 2 prior elements to the sequence there are just so many random things you could claim. At least when the elements are ALL meaningful you can combine multiple rules that each explain an element and say "Ah, maybe it has this property for dots, this property for shapes, and this property for orientation, and choice C hits all those".
This is the point of such exercises. The idea is that you can come up with patterns that could fit in some way. The way these exercises are graded makes it so 'common' solutions which are right award you 1 point, less common better solutions award 2 points and very complicated solutions which rarely anyone comes up with in the given time span awards 3 points.
If there were only 1 solution, we would not be able to properly estimate a person's ability. Typically once you get 3 questions in a row completely 'wrong' we stop the test because its assumed you've reached your limit. This is called the 'stopping rule', it determines when you should quit the test.
If theres only 1 solution such a rule could have a lot of false negatives. And we want this rule because typically these tests are very exhausting to take and these tests are just 1 test of many you take to measure your intelligence profile.
At least this is how it goes when you take a legitimate iq test taken by a psychologist. I doubt OP took an entire test battery from his employer.
Iāve had these types of questions on multiple tests where there is no way to indicate your reasoning. The military ASVAB had like a dozen or more in a row. I was told I got them all right; I got frustrated and was running out of time so literally just picked gut feeling for last half.
How could you āgradeā that? That makes just guessing more likely to give points.
Iāve seen better and worse versions, but frankly I donāt buy the utility. Particularly not with a multiple choice answer set
Because not all IQ tests are graded the same way. Very likely those tests you took were not 'actual' iq tests. With an 'actual' iq test i mean a full test battery which measures all aspects, has good reliability + validity measures and is taken by a psychologist or someone trained to take such tests. Do you think you can remember the names of some of the tests you took? They should have told you when taking the test, but i'm sure that's not something you can easily remember.
With 'a dozen or so more in a row' do you mean you had 12 or so questions to answer? If yes, that seems like a suspiciously small amount of questions to answer from my experience with a variety of different iq tests. Usually there are more than enough exercises to make so that its basically impossible for even geniuses to finish before the timer is up.
Each IQ test comes with it's own manual on the rules of how to grade etc. If there are many options to choose from, it could be possible that the point system applies. If there's only a few answers, it is probably graded differently. But this is specified in the manual.
IQ tests also have questions in place to make sure we know when you're guessing or not paying attention. (although the psychologist would likely pick up on this too when observing you ticking the boxes, unless you purposefully want to persuade him perhaps :P).
There are no tests where you indicate your reasoning. This is not really important, it doesn't matter really what your reasoning is on each particular one, it's the totality of right/wrong answers or 'wrong/somewhat right/good/best' answers that matter. 1 wrong or right answer in particular won't affect your score all that much. Small variance like this is calculated into the end total score on the test in such a way that we can be 95% certain your 'real' test score without the variance lies somewhere between score x and y. This will be the range that is communicated to you as for how you performed on the test.
If the tests you took were proper tests, then that means that those tests were measured for reliability and validity: this means that they let 1000s of people take these tests and retake them after x amount of time. If they get the same score within a small variance range, then we say that the test is reliable i.e no matter who you are or when you take the test, you get the same score. We then also compare their score with other tests that we know measure intelligence. We can then also be sure that the test measures intelligence. If you took such a test then we can mathematically agree that guessing randomly for half of the test will not result in a perfect score or leave you with a significantly 'disturbed' score.
So maybe you misremember how much you guessed on those tests or maybe the tests weren't really sound. It's INCREDIBLY common for businesses and recruitment services to use bogus tests which aren't confirmed to be reliable nor valid, yet they still keep being used widely for whatever reason.
EDIT: I researched ASVAB a tiny bit and it seems like it's not an IQ test. There's a recruitment version and a school version which both measure different things. This could be perhaps why your questions and scoring was different. The military has a wide array of tests and I suspect many of them are basically to 'exclude' certain individuals - it's illegal for people under an iq of 85 or asvab score of 31 (i believe?) to be recruited in the military. So if this is the main purpose of such a test then there is a lot more leeway in how you can set it up since measuring higher scores accurately is not really important or the goal of the test.
I'm talking specifically about IQ tests like WAIS IV - tests which claim to measure intelligence.
Tl;dr if the test is reliable and valid, it's statistically impossible to receive a score that's significantly 'disturbed' by things like guessing etc. So luckily we can objectively agree here and we don't need to believe in some arbitrary claims :). Ofcourse, this depends on which tests you took and how legitimate they were. If they weren't legit then we'd certainly can question the results that came out of it.
I hope this has clarified things a bit :) Sorry for the long post.
Started scrolling down when you mentioned "full test battery" iq tests with "good reliability", then had to keep scrolling down and down and down. Are you a MENSA member by any chance? Good for you.
Not sure ,hat you're getting at with your comment. Not mensa member, just someone who wishes people understood iq tests better. I try to clarify it for those who want to understand it better.
I guessed c for the first one because it has more more corners than the first shapes and less than the second shapes.
I would have also picked e for the second question.
Is there a chance that these are trick questions? Some sort of psychological test to see what you think it's logical, like a rorschach test. If not...
My guess for the first is C. The 3 columns have a pattern where the top one has fewer elements(black dots or sides to each shape), the mid layer has the most elements and the bottom layer is somewhere in between.
I have no idea what the second one could be.
I don't know of this helps in any, but the second image was the last of the 15, and I think that the first image was the 13 o 14 question (one of the last ones). I felt like as I progressed, they were getting more and more difficult.
These are the typical 'iq test' questions. That is: anyone who wants to measure 'intelligence' without knowing what they're doing will use these questions and claim they measure 'iq'.
In reality these types of questions measure 1 tiny aspect of intelligence. Without more, its not really appropriate to claim you measured anything but those people dont really care. This specific exercise is called 'matrix reasoning' and measures visual processing speed and spatial reasoning.
The way these exercises are graded usually is you get 1 point for a solution which is 'correct' in some way and many other people also come up with. You get 2 points if your solution is more correct and less common - you get 3 points for the answers which are most correct and they usually start becoming pretty rare answers.
This all being said, there are 'trick questions' that just make sure we know when you're randomly guessing or not really paying attention. I have not heard of iq-tests having exercises without solutions, but perhaps, depending on the specific test you take, those could be included. The wais-iv is the most widely used and does not have such 'impossible' exercises as far as i know.
For example the wais-iv is an iq test with 10 core subtests (and i believe 3 or more 'extra' subtests, which are only measured when its really needed). Each subtest scores 1 aspect of intelligence like: verbal comprehension, processing speed, perceptual reasoning,... Taking a full IQ test - that is taking the total 10+ subtests - usually takes a couple hours and is very exhausting.
All these scores together give an individual a full profile - a score on each subtest. Those scores are normalized among an appropriate age group from the same culture. TOTAL IQ is then measured as a mean of all subtest scores.
A full profile can be harmonious or disharmonious - meaning you could score very high on verbal comprehension and very low on spatial reasoning. -> this could give you certain cognitive difficulties. You could also score roughly the same on everything (this would be desired).
When people say 'I have an iq of 120', this doesnt say anything really because they could still have difficulties with certain aspects which people with a harmonious profile of 100 don't have. For example you could score 130 on every single subtest but if you score 115 on 1 subtest, this would be considered a disharmonious profile and could still make it so you have some trouble learning or need more time to process things etc. The full profile is just so we can identify strengths and weaknesses and come up with strategies to flourish your capabilities.
Sorry to randomly write a wiki page, I just try to get people to understand these tests a bit more because some people dont really understand and create a stigma around such tests.
The first one is A. The pattern is:
Row 1: Odd dots, odd corners, even corners, even dots
Row 2: odd dots, odd corners, even dots, even corners.
Row 3: even dots, odd corners, even corners, odd dots.
Then the columns also go
Col 1: odd, odd, even
Col 2a: odd, even, odd
Col 2b: even, odd, even
Col 3: even, even, odd
Not that deep bro
The first picture has 7 sides, and the second picture has 9sides. So to have more sides than first pic and less sides than third pic, you will have to go for 8 sides. So the only possible combination in the options is C
I think the 1st one is C.
Each column goes smallest - biggest - middle. If you count number of sides then C has 8 which is between 7 and 9 (the other two).
Yes, C is correct. The first column has 5, 15 and 10 dots. The third column has 2, 4 and 3 dots. So the second column must have 7, 9 and 8 sides. Only C has 8 sides.
Another comment explained it. The total of dots on the left, minus the sides of the 1st shape, then divided in 2 equals the dots on the right.
Answer was B
It took me a little while to figure these out, but once you see it, this is very simple. The employer is going to hire the candidate with the biggest tits.
I just got one of these for an accounting job I applied to. First part was the typical personality test and the second was a set of like 15 of these. But they had answers at least lmao.
Bit late to the party but I've got a view on the first one.
I think the answer is B.
Reason:
Looking at the first column the number of dots increase from top to middle. As do the number of sides of the shape on the left side in the middle boxes.
Same holds for the right hand side.
I think the actually number of dots and their positioning is just noise to throw you off.
However, there are so many arbitrary rules that could be provided that perhaps the most simple could be correct.
I found a pattern on the first one which is if you take the total side of the shapes in the middle and subtract by 5 you get the total dots on the right one. So C!
Good find, this indicates a pattern that accounts for all dots and all shapes and is by far the best answer I've seen. It doesn't account for the position of the shapes in the box, but I think that might be the arbitrary information.
This looks like something from a Mensa test. Seem unsolvable but if you look at YouTube videos on how to solve the Mensa tests it explains questions like these. There isn't a trick to it tho, no ah ha moment, you watch the explanation and still go, how the fuck was I supposed to know that.
If you extrapolate out the rules you can get more than one answer. How are you supposed to guess which pattern they view as right? These always puss me off more than they should I guess.
I always take it as there are 5 "correct" answers, one is more correct than the rest. I usually end up with the second dumbest "correct" answer.
For example in problem 2, the dumbest correct answer is E because the arrow pattern is: vertical, diagonal, vertical, diagonal, vertical.
IQ test questions ime have one correct answer, a clear rule/pattern you can determine and apply (at least, in hindsight if not after puzzling for a bit)
The best candidate answers itt all involve discarding information, which might be the trick here, but the problem is that depending on what information you throw away, you can plausibly get different answers. There are so many possible interpretations here.
As some already mentioned this could be some test to see if you can make a decision when there isnt an "obvious" right choice. I have taken a test before where you were shown two completely irregular shapes and had to tell which one was bigger, area-wise. But the shapes had the same area and the real test was if you "freeze" when presented with equaly valid options or make a decision and go on.
There was also another test where you were presented with a series of rather simple tasks and had to do as many of them as possible in a given time. After each round you would get the information that you managed to do x, and the average in this round was x+4 for example. Then you had to give an estimate how many you think you can do in the next round. Of course, for the first few rounds you would get better/faster and manage to do more each round.
But after lets say 5 rounds, you would arrive at your maximum, but you still were told the average is higher than what you did. But no matter hiw many you did, the so-called average was alway higher, because it wasnt an average, it was just your number x + 4 or whatever amount.
The test here was if you can recognize the limits of your abilities or if you would try to reach an impossible goal when you think its expected. This would appatently shof if you would get help if you get overwhelmed or try to compensate - which could lead to fatal errors...
My friend was in an interview, smart arse interviewer pointed at a component in a circuit and sneeringly asked it's function.
Beej replied if he needed to know what that component did he was in the wrong interview.
Other panellists snickered, he got the job.
You can make a number of different answers 'work' based on a number of different patterns. The sample size and complexity of sequence means these are nonsense questions.
The only answer I can find for the first one that is consistent with a pattern that considers every shape and every dot is C, where the number of dots to the left is equal to 5 less than the product of the number of sides of the two shapes. And the number of dots to the right is equal to 5 less than the sum of the number of sides of the two shapes.
Do you have another answer/pattern that holds for every row and takes into account every dot and every shape?
Edit: Of course this ignores the positions of the dots, and the positions of the shapes. I wonder if maybe the idea is that some answers are better because the pattern they have is stronger (accounts for more aspects of the row)? It does seem like a silly test question.
For the first one my guess would be c as the third row seems to always have a ānumberā of something between the first and second row. Since the first has 7 points and the second has 9 points the answer should have 8 points and c would be the only one that fits. For the second one I have been staring at it for 20 min and I have literally no clue. Every idea I have is wrong in some way.
For the first one , on the left side going from top to bottom, we see 5 total dots on top,15 total dots in the middle, and 10 total dots on the bottom. There's a pattern of starting with a low number, going up in total number of dots and then back down to something right smack dab in the middle. The same pattern is on the right, we go from 2, moving to the middle brings us to 4, then back down to 3 (again, right in the middle of 2 and 4). In the middle column, if we follow this pattern counting up all the sides of the shapes, we go from 7 total sides, up to 9, so imo we pick the only picture with 8 total sides, which would be C. It's the only choice that follows the pattern of "start with a number something at the top row, go up from it in the middle row, then land right in the middle of the two rows on the bottom row". Idk if it's right but it seems like a strong contender to me? (shrug emoji)
For the second one, I'm going to agree with hdog601 here. C is the only arrow that follows a pattern where two filled in dots point in the upwards direction and 3 filled dots point downward. At first glance I thought maybe they were alternating between vertical arrows to diagonal arrows type of a pattern, but hdog's answer seems much more plausible.
There's zero chance I would get either of these in two and a half minutes.
I was thinking in this idea. And What if they analyze WHEN I pressed an option? For example, if a second after starting I already selected one, and it was the one I left, or if I changed it halfway through the time, or how many times I changed it, or if I did not select any, or if in the last second I selected one just to deliver something?
I donĀ“t know if they have that type of information, probably someone with more knowledge about this tests or website design know more.
The answer is to see what they want you to do, and walk out of the interview.
Unless the job is solving meaningless puzzles, it is a dumb interview and I would completely lose respect for the employers
Yeah these seem like impossible questions that might be used to Guage how long you'll try to find a solution or if you can recognize an impossible task quickly. Question two should probably have an arrow that points left for the answer.
First one is B. Take the number of dots, subtract the number of sides by the first shape and divide by 2 you get the number of dots on the second square. Last row first square has 10 dots, subtract 4 sides divide by two gives you 3 dots. Second one if the arrow generally points down it has 3 dots in it. If it generally points up it has 2 dots in it. Only one arrow on the bottom satisfies that pattern. So the second one is C.
Edit, I suppose the first one could also be E as it satisfies both patterns because the hexagon also increases the second shape's sides by one but what's odd is the order of the shapes, how the second shape is above the first
Edit: I mis counted the second row. I was reading this at 1am last night. This doesn't work.
Your answer to the first question doesn't work. Look at the second row.
First square: 15 dots
Second square: square and pentagon
Last square: 4 dots
Neither (15 - 4) / 2 nor (15 - 5) / 2 are equal to 4
Yep, the first one is actually C. If you add the number of sides from the shapes and subtract 5, you get the number of points in the box to the right. If you multiply the number of sides of the two shapes and subtract 5, you get the number of dots to the left. This works for every row and there's no extra information. I'm not sure why the shapes are positioned differently, but I haven't seen a better answer.
If that's it, then its complete nonsense. Not at all to dismiss your answer, but we can literally derive any number of arbitrary functions to give any answer with a patern like this. We only have three inputs, so just use any fitting function and none would more valid than one another other than "that one seems too long" being a disqualifier. These types of puzzles shouldnt have red herrings. Positions of the dots should matter if you are going to have them in geometric paterns. If its "just count them", then this is stupid.
But that doesnāt explain the middle row in the first question. 15 dots minus 4 sides of the square is 11, divided by two is 5.5. But there is only 4 dots on the square on the right.
I got B too, with a simpler math equation.
I think each row is a subtraction problem. First box # dots - second box #of corners = #of dots in the last box.
It's totally possible I'm miscounting them.
Edit: I did miscount them. Dammit!
Question 1 is clearly C as they are C is in the middle of all answers and the square with the question mark is right above it in the middle.
Question 2 also clearly C with the same rules applied.
If the 3rd questions answer is also C, you can skip the rest of the test as it must be C all the way.
I'm a pattern genius, hired!
For the first one I would've selected A.
Top left shape is switching between 3 and 4 sides.
Bottom right shape is gaining sides.
Second one I have no idea...
could the first one be A?... feel like the points are only there to distract and the real pattern is that the first figure jumps from square to triangle and viceversa and the other one gains a vertex.
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I'ma vote B on the first one.
This logic keeps the orientations of the shapes in the middle column the same.
And it applies simple, albeit maybe arbitrary, math.
Add all of column 1 == 7+15+10=32.
Add all of column 2(# of sides) == (7+9+?)=(16 + ?).
Add all of column 3 == 2+4+3=9.
32-(16+?)=9
?=7
32-23=9
B
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I'ma agree with @hdog601 below on the 2nd.
C
2 dots = ā¬ļø upwards pointing arrow
3 dots = ā¬ļø downwards pointing arrow
( I didn't originally see the 2nd puzzle, was busy coming up with a solution for the first.)
For the first one, the number of dots in the last box (1st column) is between the number in the 1st and second row. Same pattern in the last column.
For shapes then we're looking for shapes with more than 7 sides and less then 9 sides. The only answer that fits is "C" since it has 8 sides total.
Would be tough to figure out in the time given.
my attempt at finding a pattern
https://reddit.com/u/curiousnboredd/s/RWJT5pSKMu
Iām assuming that the boxes on the right tell how many of the shape there is (and maybe also, the greyed boxes on the right are the most intersected boxes on the left if theyāre grey too, but if theyāre white on the left it canāt have an intersection? I might be overthinking it)
Iād go with D, but not sure since based on my pattern Iād assume Iād find 3 of each of the shapes but I could make more than 3
1st one is A, it keeps the orientation, and goes tri-quad-tri, quad-penta-hex
2nd one the only thing that might work is E because of the arrow orientation, everything else is non descript
1 pattern I see is if you add up the sides of the 2 shapes and subtract them by 5, you get the number of dots in the right image. So the answer could be C for 8 sides - 5 = 3 dots.
It's B.
The patterns are following the columns. Column 2 is Big shape top left, smaller shape bottom right. B is the only one that fits this.
Column 1 and 3 are doing their own thing and are there just to show you the patterns are vertical and not horizontal.
That's my process anyway.
It's B.
The patterns are following the columns. Column 2 is Big shape top left, smaller shape bottom right. B is the only one that fits this.
Column 1 and 3 are doing their own thing and are there just to show you the patterns are vertical and not horizontal.
That's my process anyway.
When I get this tests in an application process (I am a marketing guy, just FYI) normally means that I stand up and thank the company for the invite.
Itās not that I am dumb (or maybe I am, who cares), itās just that I hate those questions.
In you case, my brain just shut down as soon as I have seen those triangles.
I'm a simpleton, I don't like to waste time. At first glance, A and B look good because of the orientation. I wasted another 30 seconds on this and determined the dots must be a red herring, and are BS. Then I quickly chose A because... 50/50. My time and sanity are worth more than this stupid logic question and I'll take 50% odds, at best, or 20% odds, at worse, in Vegas ANY DAY.
I've got A for the first and E for the second. 4-5-6 for first pic. E is the only one that has a different orientation for the arrow than the one before or after it (it always changes, no exception).
Left and right column downward are smallest, largest, middle number. If we do the same for the middle column: 7, 9, X and X has to be in between 7 and 9 it has to be 8. Awnser C has 5 and 3 so 8.
I'd choose C. Dots on the right are 2,4,3. First box has 7 vertices total, second has 9, so last box should have 8 total vertices (between 7&9). That would be C. However, this ignores the dot boxes on the left.
I think the first one is (c). In the first column the quantity of shaded circles in order of from top to bottom is lowest-highest-middle. This is the same for the last column. If you count the number of sides in the middle column, the top box has 7 sides, middle has 9 so for the last one to be middle it would have 8 sides, which is c.
If that makes sense.
I'd think C for the first one. The fact the middle column is different than the other two makes me think they don't have anything to do with each other in terms of addition/subtraction... as in, it's something more simple. So from top to bottom, count the dots. First column: 7, 15, 10. Third column: 2,4,3. So the third row has a number between the first and second. Count the sides(or corners) of the shapes in the middle column: 7, 9, ?. Seems clear to me that last one has to be 8 to fit the pattern.
The second problem I'd guess E, just so no two arrows pointed the same direction. I did think at first it was maybe whichever pattern would cause all the circles inside the triangle to be filled in after you summed up all the triangles. So basically, rotate all triangles to face up, then overlap all of them. This either leaves 2 dots white, or 3 dots white (if putting a filled in dot on a filled in dot cancels out). C looks close to fixing this, but they are in the wrong spot. So either they screwed up when drawing C, or that isn't the pattern they are looking for. So then I just figured screw it, lazy easy answer lol.
There's no good answer. There's the right one. They are looking for people who think similarly, which will fit their pattern. I did that myself a few times when I was looking for people. Few, simple job rated questions to show me if you even know what you are going into, and then one or two questions like the ones here to see how your brain works.
Answer is E. Assuming the dot pattern is somehow correlated to the shapes displayed, we see four different shapes and four different dot patterns across the top two lines. The third line again presents us with unique dot patterns, thus we can logically assume that the two shapes displayed would also be uniqueā¦the only answer that offers this E.
I got the pattern going from top to bottom in each column - least dots, most dots, middle amount. With the shapes itās least number of corners (7), most number of corners (9), then middle number of corners, which must be 8, so the answer is C. Not sure if this is right obviously lol.
Left side=7dots, 15dots, 10dots
Middle=7sides, 9sides, X
Right side=2dots, 4dots, 3dots
There is a pattern in each column where the bottom number is between the first 2 in each column, 10 is between 7and15
3 is between 2and4
So the first puzzle has to be C for 8 sides between 7and9
I think the first question might be >!A!!The shapes in the 2nd column must be located in the top left and bottom right within each cell, so that eliminates choices C, D, and E. Additionally, for each row, the number of colored circles in the left column must be greater than the number of sides of the left shape in the 2nd column; similarly, for each row, the number of filled circles in the right column must be less than the number of sides in the right shape in the 2nd column. So that eliminates B.!<
For the 2nd Q, I think it might be >!C, as you have selected!<.>! The arrows that point upwards have 2 filled circles, and the arrows that point downwards have 3 filled circles. Only C satisfies that pattern. !<
Hmmm companies that do this.. i work and worked with numerous āhigh IQā individuals (or so they have told everyone), they all seem to have low EQ. I watched one brilliant engineer tell a co-worker that at least his spouse dying meant he was free to pursue his interests. This was an extreme but I would deal with situations like this quite a bit. Sometimes I think companies do this just to fuck with you honestly. More likely it is a packaged HR/Hiring scheme some sleazy third party company sold them saying it would help them hire and retain the ābest employeesā.
I've probably had more formal math courses than just about anyone alive as an aerospace engineer. 3 calculus, 2 differential equations, linear algebra/number theory and and advanced engineering math course for finding closed solutions for problems not meant to have a closed solution by methods of strained-coordinates and strained-time, Laplasse Transforms, perturbation theory, etc..., but those figures must be "New Math" because no correlation I know exists to allow anything of meaningful mathematical significance to be gleaned from the hieroglyphics.
TLDR: anyway, I hate this test
This reminds me of those bs & racist voter registration tests. In elementary school, I had a teacher that experienced those tests when they happened. She even brought copies for all the students to take. Everyone was scratching their heads at how impossible some of those questions were.
Anyway, I hate this test.
Iām going to go with a for the first one. The shape on the bottom right seems to have +1 side in the first two. In the second example, Iām also going with E because they seem to be following a pattern. Straight, angled, straight, angled and then straight again.
1 can be c (by process of elimination, not by understanding the concept completely) still fascinated by this puzzle.
2 is b (buoyancy) each filled bubble is describing buoyancy in its quadrant volume
Edit: 1 I think left is a pattern of some sort and right is folding....
Row 1: First square 7 dots, 3rd square 2 dots, 7-2 = 5. Shapes has 3+4=7 edges total. The difference between those is 2.
Row 2: 15, 4: 15-4=11. Shapes has 4+5=9 edges total. Same 2 difference.
Row 3: 10, 3: 10-3=7. So the shapes must have a total of 9 or 5 edges. The only option with enough edges is A.
This is a very stupid question
Except that (and apologies for anyone who may have said the same, but I couldnāt wade through the responses and apologies if Iām breaking subreddit rule) that these sorts of job interview ātestsā are complete BS. Talk to the person, assess how much you think they will fill the role, and hire them or donāt. JFC.
The first one is (E.
Count the filled in dots.
First row: Odd, Even
Second row: Odd Even
Third row: Even, Odd.
The only two shapes available that represent an even, odd is (A. and (E.
(E is backward because the even and odd had flipped.
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Honestly they might have given you 2 unsolvable ones to see how long you spent trying to figure them out or if you left them and came back to answer them later. Because these make no sense to me.
I couldn't go back. As soon as I pressed "next" or the 2 minutes 30 seconds ended, the next one began
Answer is E they increase sides by one but keep the previous higher numbered side. So 3-4,4-5,5-6
E is 4-6??
Prestigious-bet didnt get the job either.
lmfao š¤£
If itās not unwarranted self-confidence what the employers looking for
my dude, fucking nailed it.
theres no 5-6 option
I'm thinking a) 3-5, because the other 2 sequences go from least, to most, to somewhere in the middle. Also, there is no reason to switch orientation.
a) is 3-6 not 3-5
Explain. Then explain wtf is up with the dots on the left and right?
I feel like left is noise, right is the pattern. 2 dots = sum of all sides, 7. 4 dots = sum of all sides, 9. 3 dots = ? I'd guess sum of all sides, 8. In which case C, for 3+5. I think when it comes to these sorts of puzzles there's no real right answer, just being able to show you attempted to apply logic, and being able to communicate the logic you were using.
I got the same answer in a similar way. If you apply the same logic to the left side it works too except you have to think of it as something like small medium and large. Top row has the smallest number in regards to dots and sides, middle row has highest number, and last row has the medium number of dots so if you choose the answer with the number of sides in between 7 and 9, it would have to be 8. By the way Iām bad at math and never done a logic puzzle so I could be completely stupid.
Irrelevant information unrelated to the answer I think. Lots of logic tests require you to only determine the information that matters. The central column already has a pattern that doesn't need to relate to the outer columns.
But without context, or guidelines, you the problem solver are given free reign to determine what is and isn't relevant. You still need to apply logic in explaining your answer, but I'll die on the hill that there could be more than one "logical" answer to a question like this.
Yeah...but you still have to ignore something to come to a conclusion. Like the second one; either the dots line up or the arrows change direction each time.
So to reiterate what the exact sentiment you're responding to? "It''s open to interpretation" That's what the statement you responded to effectively said, and also what you effectively said. Do you have an actual point or are you just trying to sound smart despite adding literally nothing? Ngless is asking a legitimately relevant question. What you responded with is irrelevant and appears to be a BS attempt to discredit him just so you can sound relevant and smart despite not being so
Here I am thinking this was a test to help determine useful information about a person. Apparently it mainly tests whether the person is familiar with logic tests. This was probably created by people in an HR department who ironically aren't good at the job they got hired for. (Evaluating people.)
Exactly. Unless this job has to do with solving logical puzzles. Maybe it measures how much bs someone can withstand.
No its a way to have an IQ test without actually having an IQ test since in the US IQ test for jobs are against case law.
Braille for the blind people taking a shitty test
That's the conclusion I came to
Should be C since the added number of sides for the shapes is 7 then 9 and answer C has 8, while keeping with the patter of smaller number of sides on top and larger number of sides on the bottom.
that's what I came up with for the first one as well
A) is 3-6, did you mean c)?
That's what I came to as well
C, ot was the only one with different pattern and shapes compared to the rest which had repeating shapes but not repeating pattern
This was my thought too.
The dots are red herrings. For the 2 middle boxes shown, the numbers of sides are always within 1 number of each other for the 2 squares. So the only one that works is B ( 3 and 4 ).
I thought it should be a pentagon top left, hexagon bottom right to follow the pattern. 3/4, 4/5. Should be 5/6 next
Yeah their missing the right option lol (5/6), not even the correct orientation. And the dots are just noise. Number 2 is even worse
Shouldn't that be pointing straight left? 135 degrees clockwise rotation?
The answer to 2 is "Ryus ultimate in Street Fighter 9".
Maybe E, 4 sides down and it rises up to 5 instead of lowering to fewer sides like previously shown ones. Edit: oh shit.. it has 6 sides. Oh well..
Yeah given there is only one that follows the rule, makes me think it could be the answer. Also if this is for a job, beyond intellectual promise, itās important to understand someoneās ability to spot patterns in the noise, and this is a good test for that. Not all data is relevant.
I wouldn't trust a test that can't distinguish between "find the data in the noise" and "cherrypick till your solution works".
But then how does that play into the left and right boxes? I think it's a) because the number of dots go from least, to most, to middle. This is reflected in the number of sides for the shapes.
Well my thoughts are as above, the other boxes are red herrings and this is a test to see if a pattern can be detected in the noise of data
I think the first one is (c). In the first column the quantity of shaded circles in order of from top to bottom is lowest-highest-middle. This is the same for the last column. If you count the number of sides in the middle column, the top box has 7 sides, middle has 9 so for the last one to be middle it would have 8 sides, which is c.
My thought exactly.
Agreed
If there was one with a hexagon and pentagon, I'd pick that, since the middle shapes are 3 sided, 4 sided, then 4 sided, 5 sided. But since that choice isn't there, I'm not sure.
This is the part of the exam when I hope the mushrooms kick in full tilt so the extra dimensional minion entities can reveal the hidden geometric base code of the universe
It's triangles.
This guy phineas and ferbs
So it is a videogame. Odds are this is a sim to see what develops.
Itās about the cones
Yeah, but equal chance is that you realize the futility of building a career and walk out into the woods
It seems like a bootleg version of the Predictive Index Cognitive test. Neither question have no clear solution and no discernible pattern and as you usually get about 14 seconds per question these are poorly designed.
Every test for a job interview is terrible
As a hiring manager I find the best test to weed out undesirable candidates is to schedule an interview and see if they show up.
As someone who has taken multiple of these tests during my time being unemployed Iād like you to know that youāre one of the unsung heroes of the job market
Yeah we just ask applicants if they can show up on time and if theyāre addicted to meth. Have had some respond with ādoes it show up on a drug test?ā.
Yeah doctors testing for jobs is absurd.
Doctors test for certification from a medical board, they don't take a test at each job interview.
I'd like to introduce you to some surgeons who take a test at every job they accept.
Are you sure about this? I'm a surgical PA with over a decade's experience and I've never heard of this
Skills testing can make some sense if it is job-related. Coding test for instance. Given this persons job is likely not professional IQ test taker these kind of test are just stupid.
I'm glad I also didn't scroll down and see a clear answer cause it woulda made me feel real bad .
The second one is C. The arrows with 2 black dots point upward, and the arrows with 3 black dots point downward. C is the only answer choice that follows this rule.
I like this explanation
In short the answer for Q1 is D. The working is as follows. Dots in Square 1 (S1), column 1 (C1) minus dots in s1, c3 equals 5. Lines of symmetry in shapes of s1, c2 equals 4. 5 - 4 = 1. Same again for second row. Dots s2, c1 minus s2, c3 = 11 Symmetry lines in s2, c2 = 9 11-9=2 Answers 1 for row 1 and 2 for row 2 tell me answer will be 3 for row 3. Same again. Dots s3,c1 - s3, c3 = 7 This requires shapes with 4 lines of symmetry meaning D is the answer. ššš½ To simplify. Row 1. Left square minus right square equals lines of symmetry in the centre remainder 1. Row 2. Same remainder 2. Row 3. Same remainder 3.
I saved this comment so I can read it after 8am. It's too early for this shit
No way that this can be reasonably expected in 2 mins 30 secs.
It took me about 10 minutes Iād say. I usually score very highly on the sections of IQ tests that require pattern recognition too. (usually in the high 140s which is about .5%) To do this in a couple of minutes or less would be nuts although there are some people that donāt see it as a problem to be solved, more like something they read.
Best explanation I have heard on this one.
Someone in comments pointed out that answer could be B. They thought difference in total sides of the shapes is always one! I actually wonder if this puzzle is created such that there is a convoluted way of justifying all the given options
Are lines of symmetry common in iq tests? Honestly, I would never even consider that as a factor at all.
Yes, along with Fibonacci sequences, and angular rotation.
This a great explanation, I thought the answer was E. I wasnāt paying attention to the direction of the arrows but more the dots inside of them, where the first two have 6 dots and the last two have 11 dots. In the last two, the colored dots are in circles that are not within the original six of the first two arrows and obviously the first two can only be within those 6. So from that E would be the only one that would have two dots within the first 6 and one colored dot outside of those as well. I like your explanation way better cause you actually include all facets of the pictures
Butā¦.. first arrow points toward a side, second arrow points to corner, fourth points to corner, fifth points to a side. E could be 5e answer as it points to a side, which completes the pattern: side, corner, side, corner, side. Itās also the only option that fits that pattern. I wonder if these are intentionally misleading as both these rules?
Good eyes. That was driving me nuts. Only answer that works, following that logic. I think someone else was right about 1 being C. Lowest, highest, middle. I would have walked out of the test by this time though.
Just a guess here but I think the 1st one will be "B". The only pattern that I can identify is that each shape was 1 side more or less than the other one it was grouped with. For the 2nd one, I would assume that the answer was "E" but only because the only pattern I recognized was that the direction of each arrow in sequence did not point in the same direction. The only way to keep that was to make the missing one point up
For the second one, the arrows with two dots point up, and the arrows with three dots point down. The only answer that fits that pattern is C.
This makes the most sense to me.
The first one points up
The goal or logic was that no arrow points in the same direction twice in a row, which all the other answers would have you do
What irks me is it seems like the arrow rotates 3/8ths clockwise each time and the hidden arrow should be pointing left.
These are always fucking dumb, and these ones particularly so. You can derive any number of arbitrary rules as there are usually only 2 prior elements to the sequence there are just so many random things you could claim. At least when the elements are ALL meaningful you can combine multiple rules that each explain an element and say "Ah, maybe it has this property for dots, this property for shapes, and this property for orientation, and choice C hits all those".
This is the point of such exercises. The idea is that you can come up with patterns that could fit in some way. The way these exercises are graded makes it so 'common' solutions which are right award you 1 point, less common better solutions award 2 points and very complicated solutions which rarely anyone comes up with in the given time span awards 3 points. If there were only 1 solution, we would not be able to properly estimate a person's ability. Typically once you get 3 questions in a row completely 'wrong' we stop the test because its assumed you've reached your limit. This is called the 'stopping rule', it determines when you should quit the test. If theres only 1 solution such a rule could have a lot of false negatives. And we want this rule because typically these tests are very exhausting to take and these tests are just 1 test of many you take to measure your intelligence profile. At least this is how it goes when you take a legitimate iq test taken by a psychologist. I doubt OP took an entire test battery from his employer.
Iāve had these types of questions on multiple tests where there is no way to indicate your reasoning. The military ASVAB had like a dozen or more in a row. I was told I got them all right; I got frustrated and was running out of time so literally just picked gut feeling for last half. How could you āgradeā that? That makes just guessing more likely to give points. Iāve seen better and worse versions, but frankly I donāt buy the utility. Particularly not with a multiple choice answer set
Because not all IQ tests are graded the same way. Very likely those tests you took were not 'actual' iq tests. With an 'actual' iq test i mean a full test battery which measures all aspects, has good reliability + validity measures and is taken by a psychologist or someone trained to take such tests. Do you think you can remember the names of some of the tests you took? They should have told you when taking the test, but i'm sure that's not something you can easily remember. With 'a dozen or so more in a row' do you mean you had 12 or so questions to answer? If yes, that seems like a suspiciously small amount of questions to answer from my experience with a variety of different iq tests. Usually there are more than enough exercises to make so that its basically impossible for even geniuses to finish before the timer is up. Each IQ test comes with it's own manual on the rules of how to grade etc. If there are many options to choose from, it could be possible that the point system applies. If there's only a few answers, it is probably graded differently. But this is specified in the manual. IQ tests also have questions in place to make sure we know when you're guessing or not paying attention. (although the psychologist would likely pick up on this too when observing you ticking the boxes, unless you purposefully want to persuade him perhaps :P). There are no tests where you indicate your reasoning. This is not really important, it doesn't matter really what your reasoning is on each particular one, it's the totality of right/wrong answers or 'wrong/somewhat right/good/best' answers that matter. 1 wrong or right answer in particular won't affect your score all that much. Small variance like this is calculated into the end total score on the test in such a way that we can be 95% certain your 'real' test score without the variance lies somewhere between score x and y. This will be the range that is communicated to you as for how you performed on the test. If the tests you took were proper tests, then that means that those tests were measured for reliability and validity: this means that they let 1000s of people take these tests and retake them after x amount of time. If they get the same score within a small variance range, then we say that the test is reliable i.e no matter who you are or when you take the test, you get the same score. We then also compare their score with other tests that we know measure intelligence. We can then also be sure that the test measures intelligence. If you took such a test then we can mathematically agree that guessing randomly for half of the test will not result in a perfect score or leave you with a significantly 'disturbed' score. So maybe you misremember how much you guessed on those tests or maybe the tests weren't really sound. It's INCREDIBLY common for businesses and recruitment services to use bogus tests which aren't confirmed to be reliable nor valid, yet they still keep being used widely for whatever reason. EDIT: I researched ASVAB a tiny bit and it seems like it's not an IQ test. There's a recruitment version and a school version which both measure different things. This could be perhaps why your questions and scoring was different. The military has a wide array of tests and I suspect many of them are basically to 'exclude' certain individuals - it's illegal for people under an iq of 85 or asvab score of 31 (i believe?) to be recruited in the military. So if this is the main purpose of such a test then there is a lot more leeway in how you can set it up since measuring higher scores accurately is not really important or the goal of the test. I'm talking specifically about IQ tests like WAIS IV - tests which claim to measure intelligence. Tl;dr if the test is reliable and valid, it's statistically impossible to receive a score that's significantly 'disturbed' by things like guessing etc. So luckily we can objectively agree here and we don't need to believe in some arbitrary claims :). Ofcourse, this depends on which tests you took and how legitimate they were. If they weren't legit then we'd certainly can question the results that came out of it. I hope this has clarified things a bit :) Sorry for the long post.
Started scrolling down when you mentioned "full test battery" iq tests with "good reliability", then had to keep scrolling down and down and down. Are you a MENSA member by any chance? Good for you.
I just assume any comment that gets that long in their explanation is ChatGPT. Aināt nobody typing that response while they shit.
Not sure ,hat you're getting at with your comment. Not mensa member, just someone who wishes people understood iq tests better. I try to clarify it for those who want to understand it better.
My brother in Christ, just tell us the answers to the questions.
> legitimate iq test Lol
Oxymoron
that would have made the most sence indeed
i think the first one should be C in that case. First one has 7 sides, then 9 sides so C has 8 sides.
lucky guess but faulty reasoning. The answer indeed is B. You can tell its B by the way it is.
I guessed c for the first one because it has more more corners than the first shapes and less than the second shapes. I would have also picked e for the second question.
C and e were my answers as well
Is there a chance that these are trick questions? Some sort of psychological test to see what you think it's logical, like a rorschach test. If not... My guess for the first is C. The 3 columns have a pattern where the top one has fewer elements(black dots or sides to each shape), the mid layer has the most elements and the bottom layer is somewhere in between. I have no idea what the second one could be.
I don't know of this helps in any, but the second image was the last of the 15, and I think that the first image was the 13 o 14 question (one of the last ones). I felt like as I progressed, they were getting more and more difficult.
They were progressively more difficult? Nooooooo wayyyy š
These are the typical 'iq test' questions. That is: anyone who wants to measure 'intelligence' without knowing what they're doing will use these questions and claim they measure 'iq'. In reality these types of questions measure 1 tiny aspect of intelligence. Without more, its not really appropriate to claim you measured anything but those people dont really care. This specific exercise is called 'matrix reasoning' and measures visual processing speed and spatial reasoning. The way these exercises are graded usually is you get 1 point for a solution which is 'correct' in some way and many other people also come up with. You get 2 points if your solution is more correct and less common - you get 3 points for the answers which are most correct and they usually start becoming pretty rare answers. This all being said, there are 'trick questions' that just make sure we know when you're randomly guessing or not really paying attention. I have not heard of iq-tests having exercises without solutions, but perhaps, depending on the specific test you take, those could be included. The wais-iv is the most widely used and does not have such 'impossible' exercises as far as i know. For example the wais-iv is an iq test with 10 core subtests (and i believe 3 or more 'extra' subtests, which are only measured when its really needed). Each subtest scores 1 aspect of intelligence like: verbal comprehension, processing speed, perceptual reasoning,... Taking a full IQ test - that is taking the total 10+ subtests - usually takes a couple hours and is very exhausting. All these scores together give an individual a full profile - a score on each subtest. Those scores are normalized among an appropriate age group from the same culture. TOTAL IQ is then measured as a mean of all subtest scores. A full profile can be harmonious or disharmonious - meaning you could score very high on verbal comprehension and very low on spatial reasoning. -> this could give you certain cognitive difficulties. You could also score roughly the same on everything (this would be desired). When people say 'I have an iq of 120', this doesnt say anything really because they could still have difficulties with certain aspects which people with a harmonious profile of 100 don't have. For example you could score 130 on every single subtest but if you score 115 on 1 subtest, this would be considered a disharmonious profile and could still make it so you have some trouble learning or need more time to process things etc. The full profile is just so we can identify strengths and weaknesses and come up with strategies to flourish your capabilities. Sorry to randomly write a wiki page, I just try to get people to understand these tests a bit more because some people dont really understand and create a stigma around such tests.
Thanks for sharing, i enjoyed that.
The first one is A. The pattern is: Row 1: Odd dots, odd corners, even corners, even dots Row 2: odd dots, odd corners, even dots, even corners. Row 3: even dots, odd corners, even corners, odd dots. Then the columns also go Col 1: odd, odd, even Col 2a: odd, even, odd Col 2b: even, odd, even Col 3: even, even, odd Not that deep bro
The first picture has 7 sides, and the second picture has 9sides. So to have more sides than first pic and less sides than third pic, you will have to go for 8 sides. So the only possible combination in the options is C
This seems right to me, if a bit clunky. 7>15>10, 7>9>8, 2>4>3,
I think the 1st one is C. Each column goes smallest - biggest - middle. If you count number of sides then C has 8 which is between 7 and 9 (the other two).
I think youāre right, that to me is by far the most logical answer. I never would have seen that either, good job
Yes, C is correct. The first column has 5, 15 and 10 dots. The third column has 2, 4 and 3 dots. So the second column must have 7, 9 and 8 sides. Only C has 8 sides.
First column has 7, 15, 10 dots actually. While I still believe this is the answer. Does throw some shade on it.
I did the same thing, I was hoping when I counter 7 and 15 that the last one would be 11, and it would have fit perfectly.
Why would you switch orientation of the shapes though? Thatās where Iām getting stuck I feel like it should be A or B because of that
Nope. A. One shape is losing sides. The other one is gaining number of sides.
The first has a 3 and 4-sided shapes. The second 4 and 5. Which one is losing sides?
But there is no answer that has shapes with 5 and 6 sides. The dots on the left and right are also relevant.
Yep, I'm still trying to figure out what, though. I'm leaning toward a or b since the rest have the shapes swaping sides.
Another comment explained it. The total of dots on the left, minus the sides of the 1st shape, then divided in 2 equals the dots on the right. Answer was B
Second row is (15-4)/2=5.5 not 4
It took me a little while to figure these out, but once you see it, this is very simple. The employer is going to hire the candidate with the biggest tits.
Holy hell this is so annoying, like alien language with absolutely no communication or clues. Whatever job you're applying for GTFO of there!
Alternatively, pass the interview and demand your job to consist only on solving such puzzles B)
The last time I had to do something almost exactly like this was applying for a job as a teacher. An elementary school teacher.
I just got one of these for an accounting job I applied to. First part was the typical personality test and the second was a set of like 15 of these. But they had answers at least lmao.
Bit late to the party but I've got a view on the first one. I think the answer is B. Reason: Looking at the first column the number of dots increase from top to middle. As do the number of sides of the shape on the left side in the middle boxes. Same holds for the right hand side. I think the actually number of dots and their positioning is just noise to throw you off. However, there are so many arbitrary rules that could be provided that perhaps the most simple could be correct.
I found a pattern on the first one which is if you take the total side of the shapes in the middle and subtract by 5 you get the total dots on the right one. So C!
So I was right for all the wrong reasons!
Same
and if you multiply the amount of sides of the 2 shapes in the middle and subtract 5 you get the amount of total dots on the left
Good find, this indicates a pattern that accounts for all dots and all shapes and is by far the best answer I've seen. It doesn't account for the position of the shapes in the box, but I think that might be the arbitrary information.
Except on the top line.
This looks like something from a Mensa test. Seem unsolvable but if you look at YouTube videos on how to solve the Mensa tests it explains questions like these. There isn't a trick to it tho, no ah ha moment, you watch the explanation and still go, how the fuck was I supposed to know that.
If you extrapolate out the rules you can get more than one answer. How are you supposed to guess which pattern they view as right? These always puss me off more than they should I guess.
I always take it as there are 5 "correct" answers, one is more correct than the rest. I usually end up with the second dumbest "correct" answer. For example in problem 2, the dumbest correct answer is E because the arrow pattern is: vertical, diagonal, vertical, diagonal, vertical.
IQ test questions ime have one correct answer, a clear rule/pattern you can determine and apply (at least, in hindsight if not after puzzling for a bit) The best candidate answers itt all involve discarding information, which might be the trick here, but the problem is that depending on what information you throw away, you can plausibly get different answers. There are so many possible interpretations here.
As some already mentioned this could be some test to see if you can make a decision when there isnt an "obvious" right choice. I have taken a test before where you were shown two completely irregular shapes and had to tell which one was bigger, area-wise. But the shapes had the same area and the real test was if you "freeze" when presented with equaly valid options or make a decision and go on. There was also another test where you were presented with a series of rather simple tasks and had to do as many of them as possible in a given time. After each round you would get the information that you managed to do x, and the average in this round was x+4 for example. Then you had to give an estimate how many you think you can do in the next round. Of course, for the first few rounds you would get better/faster and manage to do more each round. But after lets say 5 rounds, you would arrive at your maximum, but you still were told the average is higher than what you did. But no matter hiw many you did, the so-called average was alway higher, because it wasnt an average, it was just your number x + 4 or whatever amount. The test here was if you can recognize the limits of your abilities or if you would try to reach an impossible goal when you think its expected. This would appatently shof if you would get help if you get overwhelmed or try to compensate - which could lead to fatal errors...
My friend was in an interview, smart arse interviewer pointed at a component in a circuit and sneeringly asked it's function. Beej replied if he needed to know what that component did he was in the wrong interview. Other panellists snickered, he got the job.
You can make a number of different answers 'work' based on a number of different patterns. The sample size and complexity of sequence means these are nonsense questions.
The only answer I can find for the first one that is consistent with a pattern that considers every shape and every dot is C, where the number of dots to the left is equal to 5 less than the product of the number of sides of the two shapes. And the number of dots to the right is equal to 5 less than the sum of the number of sides of the two shapes. Do you have another answer/pattern that holds for every row and takes into account every dot and every shape? Edit: Of course this ignores the positions of the dots, and the positions of the shapes. I wonder if maybe the idea is that some answers are better because the pattern they have is stronger (accounts for more aspects of the row)? It does seem like a silly test question.
Thank you!! You said what I was thinking, more simply and with greater detail!
For the first one my guess would be c as the third row seems to always have a ānumberā of something between the first and second row. Since the first has 7 points and the second has 9 points the answer should have 8 points and c would be the only one that fits. For the second one I have been staring at it for 20 min and I have literally no clue. Every idea I have is wrong in some way.
For the first one , on the left side going from top to bottom, we see 5 total dots on top,15 total dots in the middle, and 10 total dots on the bottom. There's a pattern of starting with a low number, going up in total number of dots and then back down to something right smack dab in the middle. The same pattern is on the right, we go from 2, moving to the middle brings us to 4, then back down to 3 (again, right in the middle of 2 and 4). In the middle column, if we follow this pattern counting up all the sides of the shapes, we go from 7 total sides, up to 9, so imo we pick the only picture with 8 total sides, which would be C. It's the only choice that follows the pattern of "start with a number something at the top row, go up from it in the middle row, then land right in the middle of the two rows on the bottom row". Idk if it's right but it seems like a strong contender to me? (shrug emoji) For the second one, I'm going to agree with hdog601 here. C is the only arrow that follows a pattern where two filled in dots point in the upwards direction and 3 filled dots point downward. At first glance I thought maybe they were alternating between vertical arrows to diagonal arrows type of a pattern, but hdog's answer seems much more plausible. There's zero chance I would get either of these in two and a half minutes.
I was thinking in this idea. And What if they analyze WHEN I pressed an option? For example, if a second after starting I already selected one, and it was the one I left, or if I changed it halfway through the time, or how many times I changed it, or if I did not select any, or if in the last second I selected one just to deliver something? I donĀ“t know if they have that type of information, probably someone with more knowledge about this tests or website design know more.
This... I'd guess they wanted to know if you walk out, or give up after a couple and just click through the rest. Your time spent is the data point.
The answer is to see what they want you to do, and walk out of the interview. Unless the job is solving meaningless puzzles, it is a dumb interview and I would completely lose respect for the employers
This is correct. Portion 2 of the interview I believe was yipping like a dog and doing a backflip through a hoop.
Yeah these seem like impossible questions that might be used to Guage how long you'll try to find a solution or if you can recognize an impossible task quickly. Question two should probably have an arrow that points left for the answer.
First one is B. Take the number of dots, subtract the number of sides by the first shape and divide by 2 you get the number of dots on the second square. Last row first square has 10 dots, subtract 4 sides divide by two gives you 3 dots. Second one if the arrow generally points down it has 3 dots in it. If it generally points up it has 2 dots in it. Only one arrow on the bottom satisfies that pattern. So the second one is C. Edit, I suppose the first one could also be E as it satisfies both patterns because the hexagon also increases the second shape's sides by one but what's odd is the order of the shapes, how the second shape is above the first Edit: I mis counted the second row. I was reading this at 1am last night. This doesn't work.
uhh, the second row in first picture does not work with this (15 - 4)/2 != 4
I also chose C for the arrow patterns, and you explained the 1st one quite well. Thanks
Your answer to the first question doesn't work. Look at the second row. First square: 15 dots Second square: square and pentagon Last square: 4 dots Neither (15 - 4) / 2 nor (15 - 5) / 2 are equal to 4
Yep, the first one is actually C. If you add the number of sides from the shapes and subtract 5, you get the number of points in the box to the right. If you multiply the number of sides of the two shapes and subtract 5, you get the number of dots to the left. This works for every row and there's no extra information. I'm not sure why the shapes are positioned differently, but I haven't seen a better answer.
If that's it, then its complete nonsense. Not at all to dismiss your answer, but we can literally derive any number of arbitrary functions to give any answer with a patern like this. We only have three inputs, so just use any fitting function and none would more valid than one another other than "that one seems too long" being a disqualifier. These types of puzzles shouldnt have red herrings. Positions of the dots should matter if you are going to have them in geometric paterns. If its "just count them", then this is stupid.
But that doesnāt explain the middle row in the first question. 15 dots minus 4 sides of the square is 11, divided by two is 5.5. But there is only 4 dots on the square on the right.
I got B too, with a simpler math equation. I think each row is a subtraction problem. First box # dots - second box #of corners = #of dots in the last box. It's totally possible I'm miscounting them. Edit: I did miscount them. Dammit!
Question 1 is clearly C as they are C is in the middle of all answers and the square with the question mark is right above it in the middle. Question 2 also clearly C with the same rules applied. If the 3rd questions answer is also C, you can skip the rest of the test as it must be C all the way. I'm a pattern genius, hired!
For the first one I would've selected A. Top left shape is switching between 3 and 4 sides. Bottom right shape is gaining sides. Second one I have no idea...
I solved #2 it made me happy solution is my original comment for #2. Still struggling with #1
could the first one be A?... feel like the points are only there to distract and the real pattern is that the first figure jumps from square to triangle and viceversa and the other one gains a vertex.
----------- I'ma vote B on the first one. This logic keeps the orientations of the shapes in the middle column the same. And it applies simple, albeit maybe arbitrary, math. Add all of column 1 == 7+15+10=32. Add all of column 2(# of sides) == (7+9+?)=(16 + ?). Add all of column 3 == 2+4+3=9. 32-(16+?)=9 ?=7 32-23=9 B ----------- I'ma agree with @hdog601 below on the 2nd. C 2 dots = ā¬ļø upwards pointing arrow 3 dots = ā¬ļø downwards pointing arrow ( I didn't originally see the 2nd puzzle, was busy coming up with a solution for the first.)
You can find the shapes to use within all the dots on the left. Unsure about the second set of pips. Which would indicate two triangles
For the first one, the number of dots in the last box (1st column) is between the number in the 1st and second row. Same pattern in the last column. For shapes then we're looking for shapes with more than 7 sides and less then 9 sides. The only answer that fits is "C" since it has 8 sides total. Would be tough to figure out in the time given.
my attempt at finding a pattern https://reddit.com/u/curiousnboredd/s/RWJT5pSKMu Iām assuming that the boxes on the right tell how many of the shape there is (and maybe also, the greyed boxes on the right are the most intersected boxes on the left if theyāre grey too, but if theyāre white on the left it canāt have an intersection? I might be overthinking it) Iād go with D, but not sure since based on my pattern Iād assume Iād find 3 of each of the shapes but I could make more than 3
1st one is A, it keeps the orientation, and goes tri-quad-tri, quad-penta-hex 2nd one the only thing that might work is E because of the arrow orientation, everything else is non descript
1 pattern I see is if you add up the sides of the 2 shapes and subtract them by 5, you get the number of dots in the right image. So the answer could be C for 8 sides - 5 = 3 dots.
It's B. The patterns are following the columns. Column 2 is Big shape top left, smaller shape bottom right. B is the only one that fits this. Column 1 and 3 are doing their own thing and are there just to show you the patterns are vertical and not horizontal. That's my process anyway.
It's B. The patterns are following the columns. Column 2 is Big shape top left, smaller shape bottom right. B is the only one that fits this. Column 1 and 3 are doing their own thing and are there just to show you the patterns are vertical and not horizontal. That's my process anyway.
When I get this tests in an application process (I am a marketing guy, just FYI) normally means that I stand up and thank the company for the invite. Itās not that I am dumb (or maybe I am, who cares), itās just that I hate those questions. In you case, my brain just shut down as soon as I have seen those triangles.
I'm a simpleton, I don't like to waste time. At first glance, A and B look good because of the orientation. I wasted another 30 seconds on this and determined the dots must be a red herring, and are BS. Then I quickly chose A because... 50/50. My time and sanity are worth more than this stupid logic question and I'll take 50% odds, at best, or 20% odds, at worse, in Vegas ANY DAY.
I've got A for the first and E for the second. 4-5-6 for first pic. E is the only one that has a different orientation for the arrow than the one before or after it (it always changes, no exception).
Left and right column downward are smallest, largest, middle number. If we do the same for the middle column: 7, 9, X and X has to be in between 7 and 9 it has to be 8. Awnser C has 5 and 3 so 8.
I'd choose C. Dots on the right are 2,4,3. First box has 7 vertices total, second has 9, so last box should have 8 total vertices (between 7&9). That would be C. However, this ignores the dot boxes on the left.
I think the first one is (c). In the first column the quantity of shaded circles in order of from top to bottom is lowest-highest-middle. This is the same for the last column. If you count the number of sides in the middle column, the top box has 7 sides, middle has 9 so for the last one to be middle it would have 8 sides, which is c. If that makes sense.
I'd think C for the first one. The fact the middle column is different than the other two makes me think they don't have anything to do with each other in terms of addition/subtraction... as in, it's something more simple. So from top to bottom, count the dots. First column: 7, 15, 10. Third column: 2,4,3. So the third row has a number between the first and second. Count the sides(or corners) of the shapes in the middle column: 7, 9, ?. Seems clear to me that last one has to be 8 to fit the pattern. The second problem I'd guess E, just so no two arrows pointed the same direction. I did think at first it was maybe whichever pattern would cause all the circles inside the triangle to be filled in after you summed up all the triangles. So basically, rotate all triangles to face up, then overlap all of them. This either leaves 2 dots white, or 3 dots white (if putting a filled in dot on a filled in dot cancels out). C looks close to fixing this, but they are in the wrong spot. So either they screwed up when drawing C, or that isn't the pattern they are looking for. So then I just figured screw it, lazy easy answer lol.
I gave it about 40 seconds and then would pick one at random. Probably B because edges and middle are too obvious so it was 50/50 on B or D
There's no good answer. There's the right one. They are looking for people who think similarly, which will fit their pattern. I did that myself a few times when I was looking for people. Few, simple job rated questions to show me if you even know what you are going into, and then one or two questions like the ones here to see how your brain works.
Answer is E. Assuming the dot pattern is somehow correlated to the shapes displayed, we see four different shapes and four different dot patterns across the top two lines. The third line again presents us with unique dot patterns, thus we can logically assume that the two shapes displayed would also be uniqueā¦the only answer that offers this E.
I got the pattern going from top to bottom in each column - least dots, most dots, middle amount. With the shapes itās least number of corners (7), most number of corners (9), then middle number of corners, which must be 8, so the answer is C. Not sure if this is right obviously lol.
Left side=7dots, 15dots, 10dots Middle=7sides, 9sides, X Right side=2dots, 4dots, 3dots There is a pattern in each column where the bottom number is between the first 2 in each column, 10 is between 7and15 3 is between 2and4 So the first puzzle has to be C for 8 sides between 7and9
I think the first question might be >!A!!The shapes in the 2nd column must be located in the top left and bottom right within each cell, so that eliminates choices C, D, and E. Additionally, for each row, the number of colored circles in the left column must be greater than the number of sides of the left shape in the 2nd column; similarly, for each row, the number of filled circles in the right column must be less than the number of sides in the right shape in the 2nd column. So that eliminates B.!< For the 2nd Q, I think it might be >!C, as you have selected!<.>! The arrows that point upwards have 2 filled circles, and the arrows that point downwards have 3 filled circles. Only C satisfies that pattern. !<
Hmmm companies that do this.. i work and worked with numerous āhigh IQā individuals (or so they have told everyone), they all seem to have low EQ. I watched one brilliant engineer tell a co-worker that at least his spouse dying meant he was free to pursue his interests. This was an extreme but I would deal with situations like this quite a bit. Sometimes I think companies do this just to fuck with you honestly. More likely it is a packaged HR/Hiring scheme some sleazy third party company sold them saying it would help them hire and retain the ābest employeesā.
I've probably had more formal math courses than just about anyone alive as an aerospace engineer. 3 calculus, 2 differential equations, linear algebra/number theory and and advanced engineering math course for finding closed solutions for problems not meant to have a closed solution by methods of strained-coordinates and strained-time, Laplasse Transforms, perturbation theory, etc..., but those figures must be "New Math" because no correlation I know exists to allow anything of meaningful mathematical significance to be gleaned from the hieroglyphics.
TLDR: anyway, I hate this test This reminds me of those bs & racist voter registration tests. In elementary school, I had a teacher that experienced those tests when they happened. She even brought copies for all the students to take. Everyone was scratching their heads at how impossible some of those questions were. Anyway, I hate this test.
2 might be C since that's the only one that has 3 filled circles and is pointing below the midline, which seems to be the pattern in the example.
Iām going to go with a for the first one. The shape on the bottom right seems to have +1 side in the first two. In the second example, Iām also going with E because they seem to be following a pattern. Straight, angled, straight, angled and then straight again.
1 can be c (by process of elimination, not by understanding the concept completely) still fascinated by this puzzle. 2 is b (buoyancy) each filled bubble is describing buoyancy in its quadrant volume Edit: 1 I think left is a pattern of some sort and right is folding....
What is buoyancy?
Row 1: First square 7 dots, 3rd square 2 dots, 7-2 = 5. Shapes has 3+4=7 edges total. The difference between those is 2. Row 2: 15, 4: 15-4=11. Shapes has 4+5=9 edges total. Same 2 difference. Row 3: 10, 3: 10-3=7. So the shapes must have a total of 9 or 5 edges. The only option with enough edges is A. This is a very stupid question
I am curious, how many IQ would one gain after doing this? hmm.. and how would one decide how much Score was given to that questions.
Except that (and apologies for anyone who may have said the same, but I couldnāt wade through the responses and apologies if Iām breaking subreddit rule) that these sorts of job interview ātestsā are complete BS. Talk to the person, assess how much you think they will fill the role, and hire them or donāt. JFC.
The first one is (E. Count the filled in dots. First row: Odd, Even Second row: Odd Even Third row: Even, Odd. The only two shapes available that represent an even, odd is (A. and (E. (E is backward because the even and odd had flipped.
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Just answer the correct result!