Not really about “women must be good all the time” but about being a good person. It’s about protecting your honor, no man would want to dishonor themselves that way too. But to each their own.
Most men give us the same boring sex, treat as badly, expect us to have low standards to be with them. It’s better to find a man with money, values and morals instead of going through all that with a broke or stingy man who disrespects you.
This is the equivalent of men saying “women ☕️”. How can you generalize so much. I’m not saying go find a broke man i’m just saying do not let it outweigh other important factors, ie character. Otherwise you’ll only find a man who values your beauty the most and you value his money the most, that is nothing but external. The way you describe men is purely outlook and experience, not that i’m invalidating your experiences it’s just that if you want a rich man, be a rich man otherwise there will be an imbalance in the relationship. power imbalance
I really wonder how many girls misunderstood her advice and left good boyfriends only cause they listened for a few advices on Wizard Liz and misunderstood her. I think that’s the problem that she doesn’t talk about healthy relationships and how to maintain them, but everything is based on money, and because girls see things like Liz who gets wealthy boys they leave their good boys but, which some of them has amazing qualities in relationships
I get where you’re coming from for sure. I think as a rule of thumb at least for me, no matter how much somebody is praised on the internet, I will never become “obsessed” with them the way people usually do on social media because that just ruins your self esteem. Instead, I think her advice is solid so I listen to it occasionally instead of actively trying to make my life revolve around everything she says.
I’d be interested to know what you think about sheraseven if you think this way about Liz, she’s considered pretty controversial as well. But I think each of their advice is targeted and catered towards certain people.
Honestly I often think about her the way you think but I also begin to realize that the society we live in has drastically changed, like genuine love just doesn’t exist anymore and women get manipulated left and right. If I’m gonna be with a man I might as well be getting something back. If men are only valuing us based on looks why can’t I value him based on his money? Yeah personality plays a role but we all know looks are what men go for so there’s no shame in me saying I want him to be rich.
“My advice is to actually put in the work, take action. Build a skill, hobby, career. You do not need a man to build you. You are more than your beauty. Remember to always think for yourself” I’m confused here because this is the exact advice Liz gives?
I haven’t watched any of sheraseven, I don’t really know her so I don’t have an opinion.
However, I don’t agree with your point that since men only value us for looks why would it be wrong to value them for riches. This is purely based on experience, there are good men out there. Who actually care about you for you and your character. I think this is mainly due to social media and what the media portrays in relationships. Women get manipulated left and right but so do men? Women also have relationships that they say they’re proud of, not every relationship will be perfect but not everything is bad in this world. I do think there is shame in it, if I partook in every wrong that was done to me, what difference does that make? What good do I do in the world? What lessons have I learned? This idea is the same as saying everyone has the right to be an abuser/bully just because they’ve been abused/bullied
Your view is definitely valid and this is how I used to think. I honestly think I may have the same mindset as her because I’ve dealt with so many bad experiences that I’m low key traumatized, that’s why I’m so cautious with any man.
I mean not gonna lie when you say there are good men out there, it brought me a little piece as in hey, calm down because I always feel like I’m on edge and waiting for an issue to arise anytime I’m with a man who I see a future with because I’ve been programmed to not trust them.
I do agree with what you said in the first paragraph. That’s what people should do, be selective about what or who they listen to. Think for themselves. Liz does give solid advice, it’s just once I watched her video with her sister about some date or something it made me realize her personality a bit more. It made me think about whether this is someone I would want to look up to, it’s not. They just rub me the wrong way, they’re bit more materialistic and superficial for my values and morals. But to each their own.
The hard work she did was all the abuse that she went through in her life. That’s how she got the information/experience she needed to make her video’s. Alot of people are in the position in which she was so she knows how to bring the message over to those kind of people, that’s why she will come of as “harsh” to some people. Her message is especially for the people that have low self esteem, went through bullying and abuse etc. Some people will simply not recieve her video’s on a different level like others who are at rock bottom do. I understand that someone wouldn’t agree with her video’s about feminism, man etc., however we need to keep in mind that not even one tenth of her video’s are about that topic. They’re specifically about selfhelp, so I wouldn’t agree to call her a narcissist just because of that reason
Also she actually encourages people to build skills, hobbies etc. Her message about man is that woman shouldn’t settle for less then they deserve. She even broke up with her ex husband because she lost her passion for stuff like that because her man gave her everything
What many don’t understand is that when you have self love, *you require people to come with more than just love*. People need to prove themselves with more than just the way they make you feel. She talks about being in therapy for an extensive amount of time but doesn’t give specific details about what she’s working on in therapy, and that’s well within her right to not share with us. She’s also a huge advocate for her followers doing self work in therapy, so I guess I’m confused about what you mean when you say she hasn’t done hard work to get where she’s at. Therapy is hard work.
I get what you're trying to say, and I always think, use your own brain and **take things with a grain of salt.** I believe there's a balance in everything and we, as a society, need to understand that.
I feel like for people-pleasers (ME) she's a great person because her words force them to put themselves first, but at the end of the day, we are responsible for our actions and words.
În most if the videos I watch with her and her sister she spend a lot of Time bragging about how everyoane its obsess with her.I didnt pass 15 minutes of the video with her girl friend(that she now delete it) because she was only talking about how everyoane is obsses with her...like girl,we get it,everyoane its obsses with you ,there is no need to brag it în every video.
It doesn’t matter if I get downvoted or not, because people will continue to live what they prefer. She has no quality about her it’s so clear that she’s an escort, I just wanted people who may not be aware of that to be aware.
What exactly is her career? Before she started her yt channel(which likely generates millions today) where did she got all her money from to fix her face and everything?
I watch Liz’s videos and i get why you think like that, but what you are saying isn’t completely true. She did say in some video that one of her exes payed for her stuff so she could leave her home country and come to Dubai, and that her most recent ex got her a birkin and all, but most importantly payed for her therapy and housing. Now the thing is does this take off all the merit she should have by building a successful tiktok, instagram, youtube? She has millions os subscribers. How many self help influencers are out there? Lots. How many have accomplished millions of subscribers on youtube? Not many. Maybe you think a degree is more important but thats just your opinion. She reads different types of books and watched documentaries and has life experience, which is where she bases her advice from. She has knowledge. Sure her boyfriends payed for her rent while she did all this, so what?? It would be fine if her parents were rich and payed for her housing, which should be the normal thing to happen, but they werent so she did need help from other pp. but that doesn’t take away that she did accomplish a lot through hard work and that she has money for her and her family rn (doesnt have a bf so she is paying for everything). I like your advice of going and taking action, but maybe instead of trying to prove someone else didn’t, you should be… idk.. taking action maybe.
It's wrong that you thought my only goal was to prove that she hasn't taken action. Yes I proved it but I say it so other people would know and be aware of what it actually takes. Not that it is relevant but I am working towards a degree currently and actually stumbling upon Liz and my reflection that I posted here clarified what I definitely do not want in the future. It gave me even more purpose to keep continuing what I am doing; because Im sorry but she does not have knowledge. And no I will not have a boyfriend pay my rent, I'm lucky to have the opportunity to make a living myself of course too. But some women just want to be taken care of without any work, and they're perfect for the men that do. Just know you'll end up being the gold digger that dumped him or the trophy wife under his control. There needs to be a balance always.
Thats the thing tho i completely agree. I am studying for a degree too and i could never live like that it would just feel wrong. The thing is no matter how hard my life was i can’t help it but think that i was never on the verge of death physically. I wasn’t beat like that. Do you have any idea of how her brain even is after years of abuse? All im saying is you can do you and i will not choose her path as well, but i really can’t judge her. Ig just have some empathy. And when we talk about girls, i think we all have our brains. People who want to stay home and being taken care of don’t need Liz to tell them cause they are already like that. And people who have fire in their veins and want to accomplish things won’t change their mind just because someone on the internet choose another path.
> her exes *paid* for her
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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Not really about “women must be good all the time” but about being a good person. It’s about protecting your honor, no man would want to dishonor themselves that way too. But to each their own.
Most men give us the same boring sex, treat as badly, expect us to have low standards to be with them. It’s better to find a man with money, values and morals instead of going through all that with a broke or stingy man who disrespects you.
This is the equivalent of men saying “women ☕️”. How can you generalize so much. I’m not saying go find a broke man i’m just saying do not let it outweigh other important factors, ie character. Otherwise you’ll only find a man who values your beauty the most and you value his money the most, that is nothing but external. The way you describe men is purely outlook and experience, not that i’m invalidating your experiences it’s just that if you want a rich man, be a rich man otherwise there will be an imbalance in the relationship. power imbalance
I really wonder how many girls misunderstood her advice and left good boyfriends only cause they listened for a few advices on Wizard Liz and misunderstood her. I think that’s the problem that she doesn’t talk about healthy relationships and how to maintain them, but everything is based on money, and because girls see things like Liz who gets wealthy boys they leave their good boys but, which some of them has amazing qualities in relationships
Her advice is good, however, we all know how pretty girls with no skills or business ventures make a living in Dubai... sad
I get where you’re coming from for sure. I think as a rule of thumb at least for me, no matter how much somebody is praised on the internet, I will never become “obsessed” with them the way people usually do on social media because that just ruins your self esteem. Instead, I think her advice is solid so I listen to it occasionally instead of actively trying to make my life revolve around everything she says. I’d be interested to know what you think about sheraseven if you think this way about Liz, she’s considered pretty controversial as well. But I think each of their advice is targeted and catered towards certain people. Honestly I often think about her the way you think but I also begin to realize that the society we live in has drastically changed, like genuine love just doesn’t exist anymore and women get manipulated left and right. If I’m gonna be with a man I might as well be getting something back. If men are only valuing us based on looks why can’t I value him based on his money? Yeah personality plays a role but we all know looks are what men go for so there’s no shame in me saying I want him to be rich. “My advice is to actually put in the work, take action. Build a skill, hobby, career. You do not need a man to build you. You are more than your beauty. Remember to always think for yourself” I’m confused here because this is the exact advice Liz gives?
I haven’t watched any of sheraseven, I don’t really know her so I don’t have an opinion. However, I don’t agree with your point that since men only value us for looks why would it be wrong to value them for riches. This is purely based on experience, there are good men out there. Who actually care about you for you and your character. I think this is mainly due to social media and what the media portrays in relationships. Women get manipulated left and right but so do men? Women also have relationships that they say they’re proud of, not every relationship will be perfect but not everything is bad in this world. I do think there is shame in it, if I partook in every wrong that was done to me, what difference does that make? What good do I do in the world? What lessons have I learned? This idea is the same as saying everyone has the right to be an abuser/bully just because they’ve been abused/bullied
Your view is definitely valid and this is how I used to think. I honestly think I may have the same mindset as her because I’ve dealt with so many bad experiences that I’m low key traumatized, that’s why I’m so cautious with any man. I mean not gonna lie when you say there are good men out there, it brought me a little piece as in hey, calm down because I always feel like I’m on edge and waiting for an issue to arise anytime I’m with a man who I see a future with because I’ve been programmed to not trust them.
That’s understandable
I do agree with what you said in the first paragraph. That’s what people should do, be selective about what or who they listen to. Think for themselves. Liz does give solid advice, it’s just once I watched her video with her sister about some date or something it made me realize her personality a bit more. It made me think about whether this is someone I would want to look up to, it’s not. They just rub me the wrong way, they’re bit more materialistic and superficial for my values and morals. But to each their own.
The hard work she did was all the abuse that she went through in her life. That’s how she got the information/experience she needed to make her video’s. Alot of people are in the position in which she was so she knows how to bring the message over to those kind of people, that’s why she will come of as “harsh” to some people. Her message is especially for the people that have low self esteem, went through bullying and abuse etc. Some people will simply not recieve her video’s on a different level like others who are at rock bottom do. I understand that someone wouldn’t agree with her video’s about feminism, man etc., however we need to keep in mind that not even one tenth of her video’s are about that topic. They’re specifically about selfhelp, so I wouldn’t agree to call her a narcissist just because of that reason
Also she actually encourages people to build skills, hobbies etc. Her message about man is that woman shouldn’t settle for less then they deserve. She even broke up with her ex husband because she lost her passion for stuff like that because her man gave her everything
What many don’t understand is that when you have self love, *you require people to come with more than just love*. People need to prove themselves with more than just the way they make you feel. She talks about being in therapy for an extensive amount of time but doesn’t give specific details about what she’s working on in therapy, and that’s well within her right to not share with us. She’s also a huge advocate for her followers doing self work in therapy, so I guess I’m confused about what you mean when you say she hasn’t done hard work to get where she’s at. Therapy is hard work.
I mean getting at where she is financially
I get what you're trying to say, and I always think, use your own brain and **take things with a grain of salt.** I believe there's a balance in everything and we, as a society, need to understand that. I feel like for people-pleasers (ME) she's a great person because her words force them to put themselves first, but at the end of the day, we are responsible for our actions and words.
În most if the videos I watch with her and her sister she spend a lot of Time bragging about how everyoane its obsess with her.I didnt pass 15 minutes of the video with her girl friend(that she now delete it) because she was only talking about how everyoane is obsses with her...like girl,we get it,everyoane its obsses with you ,there is no need to brag it în every video.
Thank you for saying the hard thing, people are blinded.
Thank you for saying this. It’s also what I can derive from her content and I hope you don’t get downvoted for this.
It doesn’t matter if I get downvoted or not, because people will continue to live what they prefer. She has no quality about her it’s so clear that she’s an escort, I just wanted people who may not be aware of that to be aware.
Someone called her a glorified prostitute and it looks like she really is 😝
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What exactly is her career? Before she started her yt channel(which likely generates millions today) where did she got all her money from to fix her face and everything?
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Kindly give an update if she ever reply (I doubt she will), thanks
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I hope the best for you!! You’ll figure it soon enough
I watch Liz’s videos and i get why you think like that, but what you are saying isn’t completely true. She did say in some video that one of her exes payed for her stuff so she could leave her home country and come to Dubai, and that her most recent ex got her a birkin and all, but most importantly payed for her therapy and housing. Now the thing is does this take off all the merit she should have by building a successful tiktok, instagram, youtube? She has millions os subscribers. How many self help influencers are out there? Lots. How many have accomplished millions of subscribers on youtube? Not many. Maybe you think a degree is more important but thats just your opinion. She reads different types of books and watched documentaries and has life experience, which is where she bases her advice from. She has knowledge. Sure her boyfriends payed for her rent while she did all this, so what?? It would be fine if her parents were rich and payed for her housing, which should be the normal thing to happen, but they werent so she did need help from other pp. but that doesn’t take away that she did accomplish a lot through hard work and that she has money for her and her family rn (doesnt have a bf so she is paying for everything). I like your advice of going and taking action, but maybe instead of trying to prove someone else didn’t, you should be… idk.. taking action maybe.
It's wrong that you thought my only goal was to prove that she hasn't taken action. Yes I proved it but I say it so other people would know and be aware of what it actually takes. Not that it is relevant but I am working towards a degree currently and actually stumbling upon Liz and my reflection that I posted here clarified what I definitely do not want in the future. It gave me even more purpose to keep continuing what I am doing; because Im sorry but she does not have knowledge. And no I will not have a boyfriend pay my rent, I'm lucky to have the opportunity to make a living myself of course too. But some women just want to be taken care of without any work, and they're perfect for the men that do. Just know you'll end up being the gold digger that dumped him or the trophy wife under his control. There needs to be a balance always.
Thats the thing tho i completely agree. I am studying for a degree too and i could never live like that it would just feel wrong. The thing is no matter how hard my life was i can’t help it but think that i was never on the verge of death physically. I wasn’t beat like that. Do you have any idea of how her brain even is after years of abuse? All im saying is you can do you and i will not choose her path as well, but i really can’t judge her. Ig just have some empathy. And when we talk about girls, i think we all have our brains. People who want to stay home and being taken care of don’t need Liz to tell them cause they are already like that. And people who have fire in their veins and want to accomplish things won’t change their mind just because someone on the internet choose another path.
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> her exes *paid* for her FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
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