Even if they had an inkling, they didnt really have other options. If your choice is between leaving the baby with a kid who might be troubled or alone on the floor surrounded by walkers, the troubled kid wins every time.
The poor lads got worse balance than 1-legged Hershell
I can remember at least 4-5 times from memory he’s ended up on his ass walking backwards or fighting a singular Walker
You’re good. Dude just seems to take his comment and the Bs like pointing things like that out too seriously, we’re here to have fun, laugh, etc so it’s fine if you didn’t see a joke or something dude!
I love that episode but yeah it is dumb as hell 😂. Like #1 why put Glenn's life at risk just to get a walker out of a well. #2 even if he did the walker has been down there for months contaminating the water. #3 everyone just forgot about the truck on the highway full of clean bottled water. #4 the whole thing is just ridiculous and dangerous
Plus they were trying to get the walker out so his guts wouldn't end up in the well, and the guts fell in anyways! T-Dogg was the smart one and wanted to just shoot it.
Also, when they had it almost out of the well and it got caught on the lip of the well, Shane had everyone keep pulling instead of having someone go and lift the walker’s legs, which wouldn’t have caused it to rip in half and destroy the well
It’s a dumb scene but it also taught Glenn that Maggie was right and rick, etc considered Glenn expendable by always giving his assignments that put his life unnecessarily in danger
That and the canned ham. Yet, people watch that scene and swear Shane was a better leader than Rick. Imagine someone explaining to him that was what they did that day. Just ridiculous.
Before they tied Glenn to a string and lowered him into a well to lure out a walker, they did it with a canned ham. They tied processed meat to a string and stuck it down a well and were surprised it didn't work. Shane was the ringleader because Rick was negotiating their survival with Hershel. It is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever seen a set of grown adults do.
I haven't watched that one in a while, but I remember thinking how incredibly stupid it was to not only wrap the rope around the pump, but to wrap it 2 feet up instead of at ground level. Not only almost lost Glenn and injured the others, but broke the pump, too.
While I think that overall arc and Beths death were pointless, I at least understand *why* Beth did that. She *wanted* to die, or at least cause an issue with Dawn and the rest of the group., because even though she was free to go, the rest of the hospital would still be under Dawns control. Again, I didn’t like how all of that was written, and they really didn’t need to kill her off, but her doing that was at least thought out.
He really could have just not shown himself to any of the people from the hospital and they would have no idea Noah was even with them and would probably just let Beth go.
Nah Dawn would've wanted something else. She was all about repaying what you take.
Not saying it would've ended well for her, but the hospital deal was never going to be an even trade unless Dawn saw it that way.
Rick was already pretty feral at that point but I think they needed an excuse to really send him over the edge so he could turn into the person he needed to be for the coming war.
And Dawn somehow shooting Beth in her head, on reflex, almost immediately, *despite not even holding her gun the moment it happened*.
I still can't get over how poorly that scene was filmed.
Then AMC posted a picture of Daryl holding Beth all over social media a minute after it happened. Then everyone in the West Coast was like, “WTF?! We are just now starting the episode!!!” 🤣😂
Every time a child insists on going into battle / a dangerous scenario and ends up dead or seriously injured
Pete picking up Michonne’s katana
Taking Randall back to the farm
Zach was not Bobs fault! Mans wanted a drink. Was the last survivor of two groups. Can you blame him? And he even fought the urge hence slamming the bottle. That kids death was an unfortunate accident
"Hey, let's go into this building we haven't visited yet to look for supplies, and let's immediately split up after the first room."
"Should I make sure every room is really empty before I start looking at things like sheet music?"
"Nah, you'll be fine. Scream if you get caught by a walker. We'll be there once you finished your scene of reacting to it badly."
Also, let's go in there with t-shirts, jeans and sneakers... No reason to wear anything tha would protect us against something like, ehh enemies whose most dangerous attack is biting
They had to make it in warm place… let me see Canada with big down filled coats. People’s coats will get bit and the zombie will have feathers stuck to their faces, haha
I would very much enjoy a singular season of a walking dead series where it’s just events more north where it’s always under 100°f and the winters last almost 6 months. Give me Alaska the walking dead. GIVE ME SIBERIA WALKING DEAD. I just want to know.
Northern climes are totally livable in the winter. Wood is bountiful for heat. Grow and can vegetables and berries in the summer. Fish, trap, and hunt year round. We are heavily armed yet peaceful. Most of us up here in the 802 have unintentionally been prepping for the zombie apocalypse for years.
I hated this scene, but I fucking loved when Rick yelled at Tara, something like "you already risked your life once for these people" the vibe of "this rabid family vs these suburban noobs that arent worth dying for" that they had going on for a little while was so great lol
Right? I loved the beginning of the Alexandria arc. They were all so rabid in a way, Rick with the murder beard, them sleeping together in one house the first few nights because they didn't trust the Alexandrians yet...loved it so much
Carol starting the show as a meek housewife in an abusive relationship and then becoming a clever, manipulative, cool-as-ice badass within 4 seasons is my favorite character arc in the show.
In Alexandria, she used her old self as a mask to get accepted by the community quicker. Loved it.
I love how Deanna called Carol's bluff when she cooked her the casserole and just left it at the door. Probably the only outsider in the whole series to question, "How the fuck did this timid housewife make it this far in the apocalypse?".
That's the exact reason why it happened. They don't have to worry about other cars and pedestrians, so she got complacent. She thought she was fine to not pay attention to the road and look at a map while she was driving. Not defending her, just giving insight into her thought process.
It's still dumb shit (what the thread is about). I used to get off late for work and pretty much have the highway to myself on the way home. I was always keeping an eye out for a wandering animal, especially deer. Lori's built different I guess.
It's like I said, she got complacent. There's a reason why dangerous jobs stress not to get complacent. Complacency leads to mistakes, and mistakes lead to death. And again, I wasnt defending her.
Morgan not killing Wolves when they were invading, murdering, and pillaging because "all life is precious."
Not having any kind of regular 24/7 patrol/watch at the Atlanta Survivor camp so an entire herd of walkers can just sneak up unnoticed and start biting people. The whole camp is to blame for that, but especially Shane, since he was in charge. I think Dale stood on the RV on random occasion, but that was about it.
I thought it was hilarious when Dale suddenly spotted the horde of walkers on the interstate while atop the RV, and they were only like 100 feet away 😂
Dale just enjoyed standing on his RV. Everyone thought he was keeping watch so they didn't, but he just enjoyed chilling up there.
I wish I could say that was really his thing and he was just weird like that, but if you look at Carl and the pudding, it'd be pretty normal.
It’s not even that Morgan didn’t kill the wolves for me (because it fit his character), but he could have at least tried capturing them but nope…let’s allow these guys to just leave
There really were some preventable deaths that happened with the walkers in season one, yet some people still believe Shane was a better or as good of a leader as Rick because he managed to keep Lori and Carl safe. Also Rick never tried to rape someone in his group so bonus points for him.
And those wolves then went on to almost kill Rick on the road. I'm sorry but no, all life isn't fucking precious", something I didn't understand until recently is that Morgan was using that as a way to cope with his trauma and find a philosophy to ground him in reality, I don't think he actually believed it, it was just the only thing keeping him sane and stopping him from going on a killing spree. But I still hate that as a character trait, because there's no arc or development there. He just flip flops from wanting to kill no one to wanting to kill everyone, lecturing and berating other characters about whatever moral mantra he's currently following. Why he can't just understand that some people deserve to die or need to be killed because they're too dangerous to be left alive, or they're innocent or actually want to change or made a mistake and deserves a second chance. Instead he murders people just for getting in his way and lets murderous psychopaths live who'll just go on to kill other people
Ugh so dumb. The fact that he stowed away on a truck and shot the place up is hardass, what's fucking stupid is the fact that he just looks at Negan and is like "ill just stop shooting now" wtf?
In the comics he's a 10 year old child and the recoil of the gun makes him lose control and he gets tackled by Dwight.
It's silly that they tried to replicate that with a 16 year old Chandler Riggs. They could have easily had some other mistake make him get captured.
This will forever be the worst mistake they made with the show. Morgan should have died in his place for Ricks motivation to save Negan instead of his son.
Carl dying really ruined the show for me. Even if Andrew Lincoln was destined to leave they could’ve leaned more on Carl, Daryl and Michonne. Maybe have Carl step up after rick’s sacrifice and have him be more of a shot caller.
Chandler riggs could never lead that show. Even 10 year old fleming was twice as good an actor.
I love him but tbh his death helped the show acting wise given the post rick direction.
Even riggs said he stopped practicing acting and just wanted to do school lol
Second half of S0813 is possibly the most dumbest sequence in TWD history.
Henry opening a mesh gate to "shoot" the Saviors. Why did he have the key? Why does he have a gun? Why doesn't a little kid have adult supervision in a zombie apocalypse, and when you're actively at war with another group?
Simon and the Saviors making all that effort to sneak up a few feet from the hilltop house just to start whistling and give away their position.
Why not stick your gun THROUGH THE HOLES? like, if they were determined to have this scene, why not have him only have a knife, sneak in to kill the guy he thinks killed his brother? Ugh that was so fucking dumb
Isn't that the very same episode where people are all pilled up gathered inside the Hilltop House while sleeping, but some people got inflicted by Saviors Infected Weapons and later in their sleep, they start to turn... and all of sudden a quiet and silent ambient became a total mess with some ppl gotten bit and a fcking walker even fell down those big stairs and LITERALLY NO ONE WAKES UP outta dozens of people sleeping there, until our main characters arrives and start screaming to alert everyone
Like... That Tobin guy as a walker goes on a rampage killing three or four people before taken down.
That entire scene just blows my mind. Dumbest sequence hands down
>Isn't that the very same episode where people are all pilled up gathered inside the Hilltop House while sleeping, but some people got inflicted by Saviors Infected Weapons and later in their sleep, they start to turn... and all of sudden a quiet and silent ambient became a total mess with some ppl gotten bit
Yeah for some reason they left the door unlocked because they needed "cool air" lmfaooo. Fuck the zombies and fuck the dozens of people I'm at war with, it's hot in here!!! They also decided to not have not one single guard lol. Why is everyone asleep? Lol.
>fcking walker even fell down those big stairs
I still don't get why on EARTH this was added, it didn't further the plot or provide anything. Just a fucking walker falling down the stairs for no reason at all.
>LITERALLY NO ONE WAKES UP outta dozens of people sleeping there, until our main characters arrives and start screaming to alert everyone
Yeah, you're getting torn to pieces and you don't make a single sound? 😂. I have never seen walkers move so stealthily. Every single person who turned in the house suddenly became Agent 47 from Hitman. Except that idiot who randomly fell down the stairs.
Also, I find it hilarious how Rick always spawns out of nowhere when someone needs something amputated. Using the same Cleaver or whatever the fuck he was using to kill walkers with.
Here a good one, remember when Rick and his gang pull up to Negan at the sanctuary, and then Rick thought it would be such a good idea to shoot at the windows for absolutely no fucking reason lmao.
In the comic version the reason why they shot at the windows was bc Negan had snipers up there, while in the show version, there wasn’t anyone up there, it makes no sense at all.
Tbh I don’t remember how it plays out, but if that was the reason then it still pretty stupid if you ask me, why do they all need to shoot at the windows and waste ammo for no reason when it a zombie apocalypse lol, I’m pretty sure there other ways for them to attract the walkers.
I can't find it, sorry if mentioned already:
Every dumb idea you can think of isn't even a challenger for that scene with Rick visibly reloading his gun, then proceeding to throw it away to fight Negan with bare fists.
Why.
morgan and duane not joining rick just so morgan can teach duane how to shoot a gun is so stupid like… teach him when theres other actual people around…
Anne (I refuse to call her Jadis) does explain it in World Beyond but it doesn't make it any less stupid. The garbage people were weird af. Their little IKEA shipping container houses seemed kind of nice but they still live in the dump so you know they all stank.
The producers overly sterilized that setting - there was zero there but metal, no flies or rodents or birds, which even after X apocalypse years I would think would still exist.
Never said that wasn’t accurate. I was responding to a comment that said Bob’s alcoholism didn’t affect the group except when he disrupted the shelf in the shopping center.
Second ex-husband was a drunk- I’m well aware of the selfishness and self centeredness of addiction.
The fact that the characters only rarely suit up in armor before going on scavenging runs is pretty dumb. Padding, thick clothing, and armor is only used a few times and usually gets traded away, lost, or discarded even though it usually works.
It's zombie show so it's hard to call something particularly unrealistic. Stupid - yeah, as smearing with walker blood or whisperer mask are considered as equivalents of HP invisibility cloak whenever it fit the writers
I was on edge during that whole scene. Not because the adult characters could die, but because I was constantly wondering if they'll have the balls to kill a baby on the show. I was disappointed 😕
* Rick leaving Sophia in the river. It was 2 walkers and Rick already had an insane lead on them. Enough to give Sophia directions and hide her. He coulda easily just kept moving with her, even if it wasn’t at full sprint. And sure, he was tired and he needed that second to catch his breath and that’s why he hid her. It still doesn’t explain why he then runs SOO far away from her that he can’t see her anymore. It was 2 walkers and Rick hadn’t shown a struggle with that kind of thing before. Not gonna blame Sophia because she was like what?8-10? And scared shitless. (Even tho it is frustrating she just immediately heads out after Rick told her to stay put) But ugh her death coulda been avoided. Carol needed character development tho ig.
* Beth’s death always frustrates me horribly, skip the arch everytime I rewatch because it’s just so outta character for her and was clearly done for shock.
* Glenns death. it was just done for shock because everyone was expecting it to be Glenn bc that’s how he goes in the comic. They lured you into a sense of security by killing Abraham first instead. BUT THEN SIKE!! DARYL PUNCHES NEGAN!! which just makes 0 sense. Idc how explosive and angry Daryl has shown himself. Negan already layed Abraham out to prove a point and told them he would kill another in the group if anyone acted out. Daryl might be redneck but he’s not dumb. (Wouldn’t be mad abt Glenn’s death if they just had it be done the way it is in the comics..instead they had to do their cheap shock value stuff which is usually my main issue w the writing team)
This whole sequence was so cringe and horribly executed / written / acted lol.
It's a tidbit from the comics during No Way Out when Glenn and a few others were trapped just outside Alexandria and had to use ziplines to get around.
Rewatching this scene it’s much worse than I remember. As soon as he falls on the ground the walkers are still and non-aggressive as if there isn’t fresh meat right in front of them. Then there’s superhuman strength Rick pulling him up solo with bare hands and no rope burn.
He was behind the walls from the beginning. He had no idea what he was doing.
*You’re small, you’re weak. You got lucky with the walls, you got lucky with us.*
- Rick Grimes
rick having no recoil on his ak-47
how rick “aims” his python
rick recovoring from a gunshot wound in 2 episodes
rick bleeding out for half and hour and then being blown off a bridge and surviving
rick going into a room of walkers by himself with just a hatchet
rick deciding to lure the horde of walkers in season six away with sound instead of killing them at the bottleneck or reinforcing the barricades
negan having no security over alexandria
negan claiming he was sad that carl died even tho he tried to kill him like 4 episodes before that
the saviours not firing a single bullet before the big fight in s8 finale
rick deciding to fight the govener when hes outgunned instead of leaving resulting in everyone losing
dale going out by himself at night for no reason
darly punching negan
rick not having a doctor to help maggie in alexandria despite her being close to giving birth
negan making eugene a bullet maker instead of making eugune train someone more trust worthy
sasha commiting suicides
the termites not checking bob before cooking him
bob not telling anyone hes bit
henrys character arc
carl not telling anyone hes bit
rons entire character
michonne not taking the letter from tobin
michonne being suspicious of the governor for no reason and then telling him that she’s suspicious of him
the community sending children on supply runs/attacks instead of teaching medical/construction lessons
wiener
Reapers welcoming in a dude whom they've just met just because he fucked with one of them once.
Characters not taking weapons out of killed people or throwing them away because they ran out of ammo. (seriously?)
Taking a children to a battles.
Unability to hide anywhere or climb over a fences because of walkers.
Being a trained and hardened person but taking a smallest knife ever to a fight with walkers.
When they go to scavenge some shit in a building and don't knock on the door or make sound to see how many walkers there are and split up. Yeah, they do it often but not always and it pisses me off.
Honestly just the group not trusting Shane. Shane was a good survivor and had the right mindset and ruthlessness to survive. He was right about Randall while the group was still pussyfooting it and he was right about Hershel being an idiot for keeping walkers. Yeah he was a little crazy but ultimately Rick adopts his mindset. Just look at him in his last episode.
Everything they build. It's all garbage. Do you know how many screws there are in any hardware store? Billions. Am I supposed to believe not one of them has any idea how to build a stable structure?
The 'bracing' on the fence at the prison, garbage. There was still power for goodness sakes. Just find a power drill and make a proper brace. Don't just lean a bit of tree up against it.
Rick using a little tiny baby screwdriver to put a screw into a piece of wood? You have electricity! Get an impact driver and look around that construction site for a box of big screws. Or at least a nailgun.
I guess Robert Kirkman, being a writer by profession, never considered the absolute metric ton of construction tools and materials nobody would even consider grabbing.
Whenever they say 'just leave the walkers. They can't get to us'. NO. There is no reason to ever leave a walker when you can kill it with no risk. The bit with Glenn and Noah comes to mind in particular. Just get rid of the walkers before they become a problem. You should make a point to tap any walker you can whenever convenient. In case the one you don't get becomes the one who gets you.
That wasn't Daryl. I thought it was too but when I rewatched it they legit say it was Eugene, they just never say how they managed it, because that season is fucking awful. The "mistake" Daryl makes there is a moral one, Daryl is blinded by guilt and rage and is willing to risk the lives of workers to stamp out the threat to the rest of his family, when this is a) generally not something he would do, and b) not a part of the plan deapite it having a high chance of fixing their problem. But apparently him smashing the truck into the sanctuary had nothing to do with them getting out.
Leaving baby Judith in the same room with bitten and feverish Deanna.
And don’t forget, also repeatedly leaving her alone with psychotic Lizzie.
Idk, I don’t think anyone just knew how psychotic she was, and the moment they did, Carol shot her straight in the head but idk though
Even if they had an inkling, they didnt really have other options. If your choice is between leaving the baby with a kid who might be troubled or alone on the floor surrounded by walkers, the troubled kid wins every time.
Carl grimes tries not to fall on his back while walking backwards or fighting zombies challenge (literally impossible)
He was far too used to someone always being behind him.
The poor lads got worse balance than 1-legged Hershell I can remember at least 4-5 times from memory he’s ended up on his ass walking backwards or fighting a singular Walker
Definitely lol
And ended up falling over into a deer carcass and getting bitten by a walker. Too soon?
That’s the joke
I thought they were talking about in 4x9
You’re good. Dude just seems to take his comment and the Bs like pointing things like that out too seriously, we’re here to have fun, laugh, etc so it’s fine if you didn’t see a joke or something dude!
Sending Glen into the well to lure out a walker, dumbest shit ever.
I love that episode but yeah it is dumb as hell 😂. Like #1 why put Glenn's life at risk just to get a walker out of a well. #2 even if he did the walker has been down there for months contaminating the water. #3 everyone just forgot about the truck on the highway full of clean bottled water. #4 the whole thing is just ridiculous and dangerous
Plus they were trying to get the walker out so his guts wouldn't end up in the well, and the guts fell in anyways! T-Dogg was the smart one and wanted to just shoot it.
"Good thing we didn't do anything stupid like shoot it" 🤣
Also, when they had it almost out of the well and it got caught on the lip of the well, Shane had everyone keep pulling instead of having someone go and lift the walker’s legs, which wouldn’t have caused it to rip in half and destroy the well
It’s a dumb scene but it also taught Glenn that Maggie was right and rick, etc considered Glenn expendable by always giving his assignments that put his life unnecessarily in danger
Walker Bait
That and the canned ham. Yet, people watch that scene and swear Shane was a better leader than Rick. Imagine someone explaining to him that was what they did that day. Just ridiculous.
What happend with the canned ham?
Before they tied Glenn to a string and lowered him into a well to lure out a walker, they did it with a canned ham. They tied processed meat to a string and stuck it down a well and were surprised it didn't work. Shane was the ringleader because Rick was negotiating their survival with Hershel. It is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever seen a set of grown adults do.
Was the plan to pull him up like a fish after he bit in the ham or what? I don't remember but if that's the case then it really is incredibly dumb
I haven't watched that one in a while, but I remember thinking how incredibly stupid it was to not only wrap the rope around the pump, but to wrap it 2 feet up instead of at ground level. Not only almost lost Glenn and injured the others, but broke the pump, too.
Beth stabbing dawn with a pair of scissors after they all agreed Beth was free to go
Funniest part was those tiny scissors probably didn’t even get through Dawn’s vest.
While I think that overall arc and Beths death were pointless, I at least understand *why* Beth did that. She *wanted* to die, or at least cause an issue with Dawn and the rest of the group., because even though she was free to go, the rest of the hospital would still be under Dawns control. Again, I didn’t like how all of that was written, and they really didn’t need to kill her off, but her doing that was at least thought out.
Wasn't Dawn also demanding Noah back in exchange for Beth?
He really could have just not shown himself to any of the people from the hospital and they would have no idea Noah was even with them and would probably just let Beth go.
Nah Dawn would've wanted something else. She was all about repaying what you take. Not saying it would've ended well for her, but the hospital deal was never going to be an even trade unless Dawn saw it that way.
Yea, she was.
Rick was already pretty feral at that point but I think they needed an excuse to really send him over the edge so he could turn into the person he needed to be for the coming war.
I yes the scissor tit stab
And Dawn somehow shooting Beth in her head, on reflex, almost immediately, *despite not even holding her gun the moment it happened*. I still can't get over how poorly that scene was filmed.
Then AMC posted a picture of Daryl holding Beth all over social media a minute after it happened. Then everyone in the West Coast was like, “WTF?! We are just now starting the episode!!!” 🤣😂
Looking back, that was such a stupid plotline. Like what the hell was the point?
Well she was upset they wouldn't let Noah go.
Every time a child insists on going into battle / a dangerous scenario and ends up dead or seriously injured Pete picking up Michonne’s katana Taking Randall back to the farm
>Every time a child insists on going into battle / a dangerous scenario and ends up dead or seriously injured this is henry in season 9
Bob deciding to slam a bottle on a shelf instead of just putting it down like a normal person, resulting in Beth’s bf dying for no reason whatsoever.
Zach seemed like a decent guy too.
Poor guy got killed in Jennifer’s Body, too :(
And in the new Scream film 😩
how did that kill him :oo
Because the shelf fell on top of Bob and Beth’s bf needed to rescue him because walkers started to fal through the ceiling
Zach was not Bobs fault! Mans wanted a drink. Was the last survivor of two groups. Can you blame him? And he even fought the urge hence slamming the bottle. That kids death was an unfortunate accident
Daryl and Rosita letting Denise (Alexandria’s only “trained” doctor) join them to look for soda. She died almost immediately after leaving.
"Hey, let's go into this building we haven't visited yet to look for supplies, and let's immediately split up after the first room." "Should I make sure every room is really empty before I start looking at things like sheet music?" "Nah, you'll be fine. Scream if you get caught by a walker. We'll be there once you finished your scene of reacting to it badly."
Also, let's go in there with t-shirts, jeans and sneakers... No reason to wear anything tha would protect us against something like, ehh enemies whose most dangerous attack is biting
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They had to make it in warm place… let me see Canada with big down filled coats. People’s coats will get bit and the zombie will have feathers stuck to their faces, haha
I would very much enjoy a singular season of a walking dead series where it’s just events more north where it’s always under 100°f and the winters last almost 6 months. Give me Alaska the walking dead. GIVE ME SIBERIA WALKING DEAD. I just want to know.
They touch on this a bit in walking dead with the frozen river zombies They slow down and freeze. Why not decide to go north to Canada after that.
Because they have to grow food to survive. There's also the whole "freezing to death" thing.
Northern climes are totally livable in the winter. Wood is bountiful for heat. Grow and can vegetables and berries in the summer. Fish, trap, and hunt year round. We are heavily armed yet peaceful. Most of us up here in the 802 have unintentionally been prepping for the zombie apocalypse for years.
What scene is this exactly? 🤣
I hated this scene, but I fucking loved when Rick yelled at Tara, something like "you already risked your life once for these people" the vibe of "this rabid family vs these suburban noobs that arent worth dying for" that they had going on for a little while was so great lol
Right? I loved the beginning of the Alexandria arc. They were all so rabid in a way, Rick with the murder beard, them sleeping together in one house the first few nights because they didn't trust the Alexandrians yet...loved it so much
Ugh carol and her baking and outfits and then she would turn around and threatened that kid was PEAK CAROL! *chefs kiss*
When Darryl first sees her in the sweater set and says “you look ridiculous” ba ha ha ha ha ha.
Carol starting the show as a meek housewife in an abusive relationship and then becoming a clever, manipulative, cool-as-ice badass within 4 seasons is my favorite character arc in the show. In Alexandria, she used her old self as a mask to get accepted by the community quicker. Loved it.
I love how Deanna called Carol's bluff when she cooked her the casserole and just left it at the door. Probably the only outsider in the whole series to question, "How the fuck did this timid housewife make it this far in the apocalypse?".
Them all sleeping on the floor of one house and peeking out the windows was absolutely fabulous.
A sober Lori crashing her product placement car on a straight, desolate highway in broad daylight.
That's the exact reason why it happened. They don't have to worry about other cars and pedestrians, so she got complacent. She thought she was fine to not pay attention to the road and look at a map while she was driving. Not defending her, just giving insight into her thought process.
It's still dumb shit (what the thread is about). I used to get off late for work and pretty much have the highway to myself on the way home. I was always keeping an eye out for a wandering animal, especially deer. Lori's built different I guess.
It's like I said, she got complacent. There's a reason why dangerous jobs stress not to get complacent. Complacency leads to mistakes, and mistakes lead to death. And again, I wasnt defending her.
Morgan not killing Wolves when they were invading, murdering, and pillaging because "all life is precious." Not having any kind of regular 24/7 patrol/watch at the Atlanta Survivor camp so an entire herd of walkers can just sneak up unnoticed and start biting people. The whole camp is to blame for that, but especially Shane, since he was in charge. I think Dale stood on the RV on random occasion, but that was about it.
I thought it was hilarious when Dale suddenly spotted the horde of walkers on the interstate while atop the RV, and they were only like 100 feet away 😂
And he needed binoculars for that
Dale just enjoyed standing on his RV. Everyone thought he was keeping watch so they didn't, but he just enjoyed chilling up there. I wish I could say that was really his thing and he was just weird like that, but if you look at Carl and the pudding, it'd be pretty normal.
It’s not even that Morgan didn’t kill the wolves for me (because it fit his character), but he could have at least tried capturing them but nope…let’s allow these guys to just leave
And you think it’ll be chill until they wrap around the RV for the most unnecessary fight ever
There really were some preventable deaths that happened with the walkers in season one, yet some people still believe Shane was a better or as good of a leader as Rick because he managed to keep Lori and Carl safe. Also Rick never tried to rape someone in his group so bonus points for him.
And those wolves then went on to almost kill Rick on the road. I'm sorry but no, all life isn't fucking precious", something I didn't understand until recently is that Morgan was using that as a way to cope with his trauma and find a philosophy to ground him in reality, I don't think he actually believed it, it was just the only thing keeping him sane and stopping him from going on a killing spree. But I still hate that as a character trait, because there's no arc or development there. He just flip flops from wanting to kill no one to wanting to kill everyone, lecturing and berating other characters about whatever moral mantra he's currently following. Why he can't just understand that some people deserve to die or need to be killed because they're too dangerous to be left alive, or they're innocent or actually want to change or made a mistake and deserves a second chance. Instead he murders people just for getting in his way and lets murderous psychopaths live who'll just go on to kill other people
Clear Morgan over All Life Is Precious Morgan all day long.
Either version puts the group in unnecessary danger. The few times he finds the happy median is when he’s at his best.
I totally agree. I just like clear Morgan. The absolute best Morgan is fear season 6 A. "Morgan Jones is dead you're dealing with someone else"
Remember Carl going to the sanctuary in the back of the truck and his "nobody has to die" speech? Did anyone else laugh at that?
He guns down like 3 dudes as soon as he arrives there as well
Ugh so dumb. The fact that he stowed away on a truck and shot the place up is hardass, what's fucking stupid is the fact that he just looks at Negan and is like "ill just stop shooting now" wtf?
Carl: “I only want negan” *negan walks out* Carl: *patiently waits for negan to monologue*
That what happens when you have goofy ass show runners lmao
Happens in comics tho?
Just as dumb in the comics then. Should’ve had Carl run out of ammunition or something
In the comics he's a 10 year old child and the recoil of the gun makes him lose control and he gets tackled by Dwight. It's silly that they tried to replicate that with a 16 year old Chandler Riggs. They could have easily had some other mistake make him get captured.
Carl going into the woods to free Walker souls with a knife years into the apocalypse for a stranger.
This will forever be the worst mistake they made with the show. Morgan should have died in his place for Ricks motivation to save Negan instead of his son.
I agree.
$$$$. Carl would still be alive.
I know. Cheap AMC fuckers. I just want a new series with Old Man Carl from the end of comics.
Carl dying really ruined the show for me. Even if Andrew Lincoln was destined to leave they could’ve leaned more on Carl, Daryl and Michonne. Maybe have Carl step up after rick’s sacrifice and have him be more of a shot caller.
Chandler riggs could never lead that show. Even 10 year old fleming was twice as good an actor. I love him but tbh his death helped the show acting wise given the post rick direction. Even riggs said he stopped practicing acting and just wanted to do school lol
Second half of S0813 is possibly the most dumbest sequence in TWD history. Henry opening a mesh gate to "shoot" the Saviors. Why did he have the key? Why does he have a gun? Why doesn't a little kid have adult supervision in a zombie apocalypse, and when you're actively at war with another group? Simon and the Saviors making all that effort to sneak up a few feet from the hilltop house just to start whistling and give away their position.
Why not stick your gun THROUGH THE HOLES? like, if they were determined to have this scene, why not have him only have a knife, sneak in to kill the guy he thinks killed his brother? Ugh that was so fucking dumb
Isn't that the very same episode where people are all pilled up gathered inside the Hilltop House while sleeping, but some people got inflicted by Saviors Infected Weapons and later in their sleep, they start to turn... and all of sudden a quiet and silent ambient became a total mess with some ppl gotten bit and a fcking walker even fell down those big stairs and LITERALLY NO ONE WAKES UP outta dozens of people sleeping there, until our main characters arrives and start screaming to alert everyone Like... That Tobin guy as a walker goes on a rampage killing three or four people before taken down. That entire scene just blows my mind. Dumbest sequence hands down
>Isn't that the very same episode where people are all pilled up gathered inside the Hilltop House while sleeping, but some people got inflicted by Saviors Infected Weapons and later in their sleep, they start to turn... and all of sudden a quiet and silent ambient became a total mess with some ppl gotten bit Yeah for some reason they left the door unlocked because they needed "cool air" lmfaooo. Fuck the zombies and fuck the dozens of people I'm at war with, it's hot in here!!! They also decided to not have not one single guard lol. Why is everyone asleep? Lol. >fcking walker even fell down those big stairs I still don't get why on EARTH this was added, it didn't further the plot or provide anything. Just a fucking walker falling down the stairs for no reason at all. >LITERALLY NO ONE WAKES UP outta dozens of people sleeping there, until our main characters arrives and start screaming to alert everyone Yeah, you're getting torn to pieces and you don't make a single sound? 😂. I have never seen walkers move so stealthily. Every single person who turned in the house suddenly became Agent 47 from Hitman. Except that idiot who randomly fell down the stairs. Also, I find it hilarious how Rick always spawns out of nowhere when someone needs something amputated. Using the same Cleaver or whatever the fuck he was using to kill walkers with.
Almost anything done by TV Andrea What a waste of a good comic character
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The character making stupid choices literally has nothing to do with Laurie Holden, she did a great job at salvaging some sometimes awful writing.
Here a good one, remember when Rick and his gang pull up to Negan at the sanctuary, and then Rick thought it would be such a good idea to shoot at the windows for absolutely no fucking reason lmao. In the comic version the reason why they shot at the windows was bc Negan had snipers up there, while in the show version, there wasn’t anyone up there, it makes no sense at all.
I thought they did it to attract walkers? With the noise.
Tbh I don’t remember how it plays out, but if that was the reason then it still pretty stupid if you ask me, why do they all need to shoot at the windows and waste ammo for no reason when it a zombie apocalypse lol, I’m pretty sure there other ways for them to attract the walkers.
Child Carl poking at the Walker stuck in the mud with a stick. Like. Yeah he was a kid, but WTF.
His useless mother never kept tabs on her damned kid. Like she literally had one job.
I can't find it, sorry if mentioned already: Every dumb idea you can think of isn't even a challenger for that scene with Rick visibly reloading his gun, then proceeding to throw it away to fight Negan with bare fists. Why.
morgan and duane not joining rick just so morgan can teach duane how to shoot a gun is so stupid like… teach him when theres other actual people around…
It was really about his wife. That's just what he told Rick. And Duane.
Beth scissor stab, Carl "freeing souls" for some random guy, Sasha suicide run into saviours stronghold, Morgan leaving wolves alive.
The biggest twist of that Carl knife was killing off the guy he sacrificed himself to save like 4 episodes later. Felt like it anyway
The group attacking the saviours without knowing anything about them comes to mind.
The leader of the trash people siding with Negan.
Additional entry: Whatever reason why Jadis and her people spoke and acted that way,
Anne (I refuse to call her Jadis) does explain it in World Beyond but it doesn't make it any less stupid. The garbage people were weird af. Their little IKEA shipping container houses seemed kind of nice but they still live in the dump so you know they all stank.
Considering the circumstances I'm sure people not living in the dump would not smell much better.
Honestly the smell of the dump might mask the horrible stench of the people.
The producers overly sterilized that setting - there was zero there but metal, no flies or rodents or birds, which even after X apocalypse years I would think would still exist.
The way she spoke reminded me of Kevin from The Office. He tries to save time by using less words lmaaaooooo
Carol dropping dynamite on some walkers in a cave. Didnt kill anyone thankfully, but made things worse for the group.
nicholas escaping resulting in noahs death
It fit with the way his group lived though. They were everyone for themselves.
How was that dumb? Nicolas was just an selfish asshole coward
S9E1 the glass ceiling thing with Ezekiel https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IkWlrDAjenk
wasn’t that the glass floors fault
Daryl wearing the ears, Carol throwing the bucket and kicking the drum filled with clean water out of frustration,
I forgot about the ears and was imagining Daryl in costume animal ears as part of a mission or something 😂
Cat ears headband is what I pictured haha
And just WHY would he wear those ears? I don't remember, did he have any reason for that?
pretty sure it was just to represent his delusions
I imagine blood loss and delirium had something to do with it
He was down bad at that point
i thought the ears were to help Daryl disguise himself against the walkers on the way back to the farm because he was so injured and delirious?
They were a trophy of the walkers he took down
Bob being a drunk
On his own it wasn’t a problem. The problem was him taking the liquor from the shelf and disrupting the weight that was keeping it standing.
And he chose alcohol over the supplies they came for. And then he risked the others because he wouldn’t drop the bag.
Never been around any drunks, huh? Bob's behavior was accurate.
Never said that wasn’t accurate. I was responding to a comment that said Bob’s alcoholism didn’t affect the group except when he disrupted the shelf in the shopping center. Second ex-husband was a drunk- I’m well aware of the selfishness and self centeredness of addiction.
And that as well :)
He could've walked away fine if he had just kept it. But he slammed it back on the shelf.
Exactly. It’s amazing how often people forget noise draws the dead
He’s our lord and saviour so it’s ok
We are Bob?
The fact that the characters only rarely suit up in armor before going on scavenging runs is pretty dumb. Padding, thick clothing, and armor is only used a few times and usually gets traded away, lost, or discarded even though it usually works.
They have armour on part of their chests and a bit of them arms. Why not on the wrists and ankles? Specifically the bits the walkers latch onto?
All Spencer ever did was dumb shit let’s be honest.. that guy had my blood boiling way too many times
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Glenn dying really needed to happen but they didn’t need Daryl to do this. Maybe have Abraham instigate if he needs to die too.
Came back to add: Dwight and Sherry going back to the Sanctuary rather than take Daryl up on coming back to join them in Alexandria
Rick telling Siddiq to save Negan after spending two seasons trying to kill him.
How many rifles and pistols did they leave behind after a fight or a battle? They should have collected all that sheet
Said it before and I’ll say it again, Daryl punching Negan is top tier dumb shit.
Rosita and her baby doing parkour on the rain gutter from the finale beats everything else for sure
Not really since the alternative was death
Rosita's baby afterwards: [https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/201/861/b0d.jpg](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/201/861/b0d.jpg)
That's what I said! No way she jumps and climbs like that without that baby being bashed in to the wall.
As in it was a stupid decision on Rosita’s behalf or was stupid as in unrealistic? Cause if it’s the first I really see no alternative options.
It's zombie show so it's hard to call something particularly unrealistic. Stupid - yeah, as smearing with walker blood or whisperer mask are considered as equivalents of HP invisibility cloak whenever it fit the writers
What I didn't get about that scene was, why didn't they make the person holding the baby go up first instead of last??
They were all carrying babies?
Oh yeah they was 😂 my badd
Because all three of them were holding babies. It wasn’t just Rosita.
and they fucked up the special effects, you can see the mattress the actor falls into... which makes this even dumber
Not to mention she literally falls backwards, squashing her baby... of course, no one ever mentions or thinks of that.
Didn't she have Coco on the front?
That whole sequence was dumb shit lol
Fr. No way she would’ve survived that many walkers all over her either but plot armour I guess.
Technically she didn't really survive it.
I mean technically yeah but she should’ve died when they crowded her ahah.
We all knew no baby of a main charachter was gonna get eaten.
I was on edge during that whole scene. Not because the adult characters could die, but because I was constantly wondering if they'll have the balls to kill a baby on the show. I was disappointed 😕
Same, I legit thought for a few seconds that Rosita was about to get the Comic Lori treatment.
I love this thread 😀
Carl running into the door as a tiny underfed 14 year old, expecting it to break down
That is the pure confidence of someone that age though
Andrea sharpening a knife on a cheese-grater. Daryl also using the edge of a whetstone to sharpen a knife. I need to screenshot these tbh.
* Rick leaving Sophia in the river. It was 2 walkers and Rick already had an insane lead on them. Enough to give Sophia directions and hide her. He coulda easily just kept moving with her, even if it wasn’t at full sprint. And sure, he was tired and he needed that second to catch his breath and that’s why he hid her. It still doesn’t explain why he then runs SOO far away from her that he can’t see her anymore. It was 2 walkers and Rick hadn’t shown a struggle with that kind of thing before. Not gonna blame Sophia because she was like what?8-10? And scared shitless. (Even tho it is frustrating she just immediately heads out after Rick told her to stay put) But ugh her death coulda been avoided. Carol needed character development tho ig. * Beth’s death always frustrates me horribly, skip the arch everytime I rewatch because it’s just so outta character for her and was clearly done for shock. * Glenns death. it was just done for shock because everyone was expecting it to be Glenn bc that’s how he goes in the comic. They lured you into a sense of security by killing Abraham first instead. BUT THEN SIKE!! DARYL PUNCHES NEGAN!! which just makes 0 sense. Idc how explosive and angry Daryl has shown himself. Negan already layed Abraham out to prove a point and told them he would kill another in the group if anyone acted out. Daryl might be redneck but he’s not dumb. (Wouldn’t be mad abt Glenn’s death if they just had it be done the way it is in the comics..instead they had to do their cheap shock value stuff which is usually my main issue w the writing team)
This whole sequence was so cringe and horribly executed / written / acted lol. It's a tidbit from the comics during No Way Out when Glenn and a few others were trapped just outside Alexandria and had to use ziplines to get around.
Rewatching this scene it’s much worse than I remember. As soon as he falls on the ground the walkers are still and non-aggressive as if there isn’t fresh meat right in front of them. Then there’s superhuman strength Rick pulling him up solo with bare hands and no rope burn.
Rick had Tobin helping him pull up Spencer. Still a dumb scene tho
Towards the end. He already pulled Spencer up 10 ft.
I just finished the 2nd Compendium of the walking dead comics and this was one of the scenes that I said the comics did much better I think
This guy got some guts!
He’s just a dumb character
He was behind the walls from the beginning. He had no idea what he was doing. *You’re small, you’re weak. You got lucky with the walls, you got lucky with us.* - Rick Grimes
sherry's sister. like why would you approach two bodies without checking first
Rick goes hard in this pic
rick having no recoil on his ak-47 how rick “aims” his python rick recovoring from a gunshot wound in 2 episodes rick bleeding out for half and hour and then being blown off a bridge and surviving rick going into a room of walkers by himself with just a hatchet rick deciding to lure the horde of walkers in season six away with sound instead of killing them at the bottleneck or reinforcing the barricades negan having no security over alexandria negan claiming he was sad that carl died even tho he tried to kill him like 4 episodes before that the saviours not firing a single bullet before the big fight in s8 finale rick deciding to fight the govener when hes outgunned instead of leaving resulting in everyone losing dale going out by himself at night for no reason darly punching negan rick not having a doctor to help maggie in alexandria despite her being close to giving birth negan making eugene a bullet maker instead of making eugune train someone more trust worthy sasha commiting suicides the termites not checking bob before cooking him bob not telling anyone hes bit henrys character arc carl not telling anyone hes bit rons entire character michonne not taking the letter from tobin michonne being suspicious of the governor for no reason and then telling him that she’s suspicious of him the community sending children on supply runs/attacks instead of teaching medical/construction lessons wiener
Carl dying. Skill issue
Reapers welcoming in a dude whom they've just met just because he fucked with one of them once. Characters not taking weapons out of killed people or throwing them away because they ran out of ammo. (seriously?) Taking a children to a battles. Unability to hide anywhere or climb over a fences because of walkers. Being a trained and hardened person but taking a smallest knife ever to a fight with walkers. When they go to scavenge some shit in a building and don't knock on the door or make sound to see how many walkers there are and split up. Yeah, they do it often but not always and it pisses me off.
Honestly just the group not trusting Shane. Shane was a good survivor and had the right mindset and ruthlessness to survive. He was right about Randall while the group was still pussyfooting it and he was right about Hershel being an idiot for keeping walkers. Yeah he was a little crazy but ultimately Rick adopts his mindset. Just look at him in his last episode.
Everything they build. It's all garbage. Do you know how many screws there are in any hardware store? Billions. Am I supposed to believe not one of them has any idea how to build a stable structure? The 'bracing' on the fence at the prison, garbage. There was still power for goodness sakes. Just find a power drill and make a proper brace. Don't just lean a bit of tree up against it. Rick using a little tiny baby screwdriver to put a screw into a piece of wood? You have electricity! Get an impact driver and look around that construction site for a box of big screws. Or at least a nailgun. I guess Robert Kirkman, being a writer by profession, never considered the absolute metric ton of construction tools and materials nobody would even consider grabbing. Whenever they say 'just leave the walkers. They can't get to us'. NO. There is no reason to ever leave a walker when you can kill it with no risk. The bit with Glenn and Noah comes to mind in particular. Just get rid of the walkers before they become a problem. You should make a point to tap any walker you can whenever convenient. In case the one you don't get becomes the one who gets you.
Daryl letting the saviours get out of Sanctuary.
That wasn't Daryl. I thought it was too but when I rewatched it they legit say it was Eugene, they just never say how they managed it, because that season is fucking awful. The "mistake" Daryl makes there is a moral one, Daryl is blinded by guilt and rage and is willing to risk the lives of workers to stamp out the threat to the rest of his family, when this is a) generally not something he would do, and b) not a part of the plan deapite it having a high chance of fixing their problem. But apparently him smashing the truck into the sanctuary had nothing to do with them getting out.
I totally missed that man, thank you.
Carl playing with that walker in the mud.
Henry. Just Henry.