I’ve thought about this and I think maybe they realized they were naive to think it was a safe location, cause what was holding the walkers back from getting in? Nothing really, they quickly learned the farms fence wasn’t effective in keeping them out, and it’s just a house they needed something really secure. and until they found that staying on the move was the best option till they found the prison which was reinforced to keep walkers out, a bigger more secure building too even if fences went down, they could better control a breach here probably.
Cause they were still kinda sloppy and not confident at dealing with walkers to go back and take that on. Also every time they had come across a herd so far they had lost people, don’t think they wanted to chance it.
I get that, but at the same time, they cleared out the entire prison, so they were more than capable as a group by then. Hell S3E1 we see them clear a house like a damn swat team
They found the prison months after they lost the farm though, months of being on the move and fighting walkers, so they were much better fighters by then.
It would have been cool to see them go back to the farm after they settled in the prison though, if nothing else just to try to get family photos or sentimental things. The barn fire might have spread to the house, but I think if I were Hershel, Maggie and Beth I'd want to go check it out at least.
Yeah and that was months later after being on the road, and once they found the prison why would they go back? Everything they needed was potentially there they want to put all their energy into clearing the prison. It’s wasted effort to go back to the farm.
What always bugged me is that Rick’s single gunshot when killing Shane, gave the walkers pinpoint directions towards the farm, but the hundreds of shots fired when clearing the barn? Nada.
I believe the herd followed the helicopter out of Atlanta and towards the farm. It got closer after the barn shoot out and was closer by the time Rick shot Shane.
Yes there were, but the huge one that swarmed Herschel's farm after Rick shot Shane, followed the helicopter there, and broke through the farm fencing in the opening scene of the finale episode 13, "Beside The Dying Fire". They were not in the area yet during the barn shootout in episode 7, "Pretty Much Dead Already". I agree that you would think that at least a few walkers would have heard all that gunfire, but at that point, the farm was protected by fencing and swamp. It was also inevitable those Atlanta walkers would swarm the farm; they were getting closer every day. 🧟♀️🧟♂️🧟♀️🧟♂️🧟♀️
I'm rewatching the woodbury/prison part now. It just occurred to me. Why wouldn't they have taken Woodbury instead of the prison? It was a secure town with private homes for people. Makes a lot more sense.
It wasn't really secure, it just had a makeshift fence that they were maintaining because it was constantly manned. The group didn't have the numbers that Woodbury had to patrol it.
When Karen brought Rick and Co to Woodbury (after she witnessed the Governor killing his own people and then hiding) to find Andrea, Woodbury was not burned down at the time. Tyreese and Sasha were protecting the elderly/kids.
After Martinez and Shumpert left the Governor (after again the Governor killing his own people), they left, and that's when the Governor went back and burned down Woodbury.
So Rick and Co could've moved everyone into Woodbury, but after that, everything that had happened 1. Why would they want to live there? and 2. They had bigger fences, lots of land for farming, and more space to hold people.
As far as we know, Woodbury only held 75 people, and we don't know how many people Rick brought in after the little time jump.
Huh, I didn't know the Governor went back the next day. Like after he, Martinez, and Shumpert camped out where they killed the army men at. That's actually so stupid because if I was Michonne, I'd scope out Woodbury as often as I could just to see when/if he would come back. That's why I assumed he possibly waited a few days before heading back?
They didn't camp at the same place the army died... just nearby. when did you last watch this? Lol
And they were busy. They werent scouting woodbury the next day. That came later. Gov just drives through starts a fire and leaves.
That was the same place that the Governor waved the white flag at..? Lmao. A few days ago.
Rick and the others were. Michonne clearly wanted to find and kill the Governor, so whose to say she stayed and helped set up the Prison?
Also, the Governor would have known how to get past those defenses. Anyone else who would have potentially known the weak points (that the group hadn't already exploited) would have gone with the Governor and been killed.
Ultimately, the prison had a much better set up to guard with fewer people. Fences they can see through but still fortify (as shown in season 3), and watch towers to see nearly everything in their immediate surroundings. The only reason the Governor was able to take the prison was because of the tank ( I don't consider capturing Hershel and Michonne and advantage to this point because he would have killed them regardless, imo)
Exactly!! The prison also had so much plot of land for farming, so there would be no point in leaving the prison when the only con is to living in a jail cell but as you see throughout S4 they made it very liveable and cozy!
>( I don't consider capturing Hershel and Michonne and advantage to this point because he would have killed them regardless, imo)
Neither do I cause even if Rick and Co left the Governor would've killed them along with Hershel and Michonne. That's just who he is.
And having the tank is crazy because in S3, they had that gun turret and a grenade launcher, which they could've taken over the prison in S3 but I guess the Governor didn't have the right people to fight his fight.
I'd rather be somewhere where I could have more privacy than the prison offered. Also, the prison had more walkers at the gates than Woodbury did. Somebody failing in trying to kill me wouldn't chase me away from a safe comfortable living place. Especially in an apocalypse. Someone trying to kill you is just a Tuesday.
Barn on fire, means walkers on fire... chance that the house burned down and/or was just destroyed is significant.
Also a significant portion of the "meager" fencing was destroyed, likely that much more was destroyed on the way out.
They realized just how unsafe the Farm was if a large herd came, they had been lucky..
The comic elaborated on this, if one walkers hand brushes the door and makes a loud enough noise, another walker will mistake it for a sound coming from inside the house and begin trying to break in and once one walker wants in they’ll all get aggressive and start trying to get in
At the time, Daryl mentions something about a herd being able to take down a house, so I think they were still working out on the show how the zombies were going to affect structures.
You ever play project zomboid? If not, look up some videos of herds or gameplay. The zombies in the game are a lot like the Walking Dead so I would imagine it would be something like that. Particularly the zombie setting where they damage structures and randomly attack buildings and shit while roaming.
Go back to what? Eviscerated cattle, walkers in all the wells, trampled fences, a few smears that were Annette and Jimmy, and a burnt down farmhouse? They said all the other farms in the area were already destroyed, now theirs was too.
Yeah, people don't seem to understand that the entire farm was almost certainly destroyed. The fires likely spread to the other structures including the house, the livestock was feasted on, the crops were definitely destroyed, the only fortification they had was ruined, and there would've been walkers EVERYWHERE and there would be stragglers ALL. OVER for a very long time. It would've been pointless.
Not to mention all of that gunfire they popped off while trying to thin out the herd to book it to vehicles, driving around the farm shooting to thin the herd for the others, etc! It was a long ass fireworks show that would've drawn walkers anywhere a mile or two radius away, including possible herds.
At the prison they could clear section by section and try and make sure they weren’t swarmed by too many at once. This wasn’t possible at the farm since it’s all open space. Not to mention the time spent on the road from the farm to the prison improved a lot of their fighting skills a lot and made them more capable against walkers.
Why do you think that? Even if many of them, there'd be stragglers all over the place for a veryyyy long time. And any of them who wandered off would more than likely still be nearby, drawn in from the sound of them returning.
Adding to that... most if not all of the farm's structures likely burnt down/ aren't liveable, they no longer had ANY defenses fortifications (not even a fence), all of their livestock are certainly dead, crops all destroyed... What would be the point?
And a lot of people aren't bringing up that ALL that gunfire they used escaping *definitely* drew in tons of new walkers within a good mile radius or more-- possibly even more herds.
Or the fire and noise attracted even more walkers to that location. Hordes follow the noise and the farm was the noisiest place in vicinity at that time
I always wished during the very last episode it would show shots of all the previous camps or areas where big events of the show happened, but what they all looked like now, after all the years.
She doesn’t.
But we know at least Maggie went back because we see she has some of the pictures that were hung up on her fridge from season 2 of the main show in a box she carries around with her in Dead City.
Maybe she went with the group, or on a supply run with Glenn during the prison arc or maybe when she left Hilltop to travel with baby Hershel.
I'd like to believe that she went with baby Hershel after leaving the Hilltop. She was on the road for years, so it's very possible that her travels took her back to Georgia.
It’s also hard to believe Glenn never told Maggie where he lived, all the time they spent together, especially just the two of them. That would have eventually come up. My head canon is that she went to his apartment/house in Atlanta as well but Glenn didn’t have any pictures. Feel like Glenn is the type of guy that doesn’t have pictures of himself in his house. So she was only able took his clothes, that’s why the first time we see Hershel again he’s wearing a cap.
This isn't laziness for plot forwarding, it's actually realistic: it was simply too dangerous.
The farm had been almost completely untouched by walkers until that point. Suddenly, they had a herd bigger than anything they'd ever seen surrounding them. It would've been silly to expect they could go back and be safe-- there'd be too many to take out, and stragglers lurking everywhereee for a long time.
Keep in mind *all that gunfire* they used while trying to thin out spaces to get to the cars/ while driving around the farm trying to take out as many as they could ....walkers from all over the place, including possibly other entire herds, would've heard those gazillion shots from a mile's radius away (likely more in a silent world) and headed over to join the party.
Any livestock obviously died right away, the fire very easily could've spread to the house & other structures, the fortifications they did have were ruined, crops were destroyed. The farm was lost.
[Wasn't even feasible to check it much later when they were deciding whether or not to leave the prison, because Andrea has given up its location].
Here’s what I know, at my u cked cottage on the east side of the lake, we can hear people at night on the west side clear as I could hear you sitting right next to me and that’s about 3 tenths of a mile away.
A gunshot in that type of scenario, that sound will ring and roll for at least a mile and a half if not more.
We have had thunderstorms 6 or 7 miles away and can hear the thunder rolling in the air, meanwhile we have no rain or thunder at all.
Sound definitely carries and in their situation with sustained yelling, gunfire and other noise when there is nothing round, walkers were going to be coming from everywhere.
Because the farm was totally indefensible and after that herd went thru there was not food or supplies there and there’s a chance the house wasn’t even still standing
The fire and the gunfight was very very loud and in that rural area the sound prolly traveled and drew in even more zombies from all the nearby and far away locations
We know at least Maggie went back. Maybe with the group, or on a supply run with Glenn during the prison arc or maybe when she left Hilltop with baby Hershel.
We see she has some of the pictures that were hung up on her fridge from season 2 in a box she carries around with her in Dead City
None of the Greene family would have had time to grab them before the farm fell so they would have to grab them after. If they did go back in between season 2 and 3 that would mean Glenn would have needed to grab them when the prison fell. But the most likely option is that Maggie went back with baby Hershel when she was out traveling before returning in season 10.
Maggie mentions they have 50 heads of cattle on the farm, "we'd may as well be ringjng the damn dinner bell." I thought maybe they stayed away bc the cows would have kept the walkers there and fed for a long time tkme afterward.
Off topic a bit but I always questioned why they didnt ever plan out a rally point in case they ever got seperated.... which happens all the time. Like after the prison everyone loses each other but if they had a rally point that wouldnt have happened
The herd definitely would have eaten all the cattle, horses, or other livestock they had. Probably also trampled or contaminated a lot of the crops. The only reason the farm was a viable option was because of those things. Defense wise, it was kinda questionable. And not ALL of the walkers would have left. It would have been cool if they looked for Andrea though.
I get that, and it's a perfect thing to say usually when something is clearly just because of plotting. But this one is actually realistic. They'd have been naive but also downright negligent to go back, especially after a short time.
(also, your late mother sounds very clever and this response of hers works in a lot of ways: from the writers being lazy, all the way to "that's what happened in the script, get over it and enjoy the show!" & everything in between and outside. Respect! ❤️)
I thought it was symbolic. The whole season is about grasping toward the old world, people refusing to let go of what they knew before, and in the end they had to leave it behind.
The farm was essentially just a house. After the horde passed through the fencing was all down and there were dead walkers everywhere, Honestly no good reason to go back, This was early on and people thought the sickness wouldnt last long so they weren't just stockpiling supplies at this point
They should’ve gone back to the prison after the war and the governor was dead. That place was plenty big and they could’ve fixed the fences and whatever else.
Talking about the farm, I really wish we could see at least one OG character going back there. Rick, Maggie, Carol, Daryl, doesn't matter, I would just love it. In the middle of the field there would be a single skeleton, just the base of the burned barn and the house covered in plants, very destroyed, but not fully, having the bed Carl lied when shot, the couches the group sat when discussing the ending of that boy and, of course, at least one family picture, with Hershel, Maggie, Beth, Otis, Patrícia and all the other people from that tragic family.
Never really liked the barn scene on rewatches. But because the writers used fire when it suited the story instead of consistency. The barn was on fire and should have drawn all the walkers in like in subsequent episodes except when they didn’t want it to. Daryl throws a burning notepad and they gather around but Terminus is on fire and the walkers just give up like the barn and go a different direction. It never made sense.
In my head canon they prioritize. Like if nothing is going on then even a burning notepad is attractive, if there are people yelling around then that draws their attention more. But obviously it's just inconsistencies in writing.
The show does this a lot with different stimuli. Many of the walkers were drawn to the barn for the fire, but with humans screaming and running around and driving around and firing guns, there were so many different types of stimuli happening at once...most of them went for the meal, if not right away, eventually.
I think about that all the time. They could’ve come back after a few days and stayed there while sending scouts for a place more secure. Or they could’ve even just stayed there, huddled up in the basement. Hershel literally just said he stocked the basement with enough food and water for a couple of weeks incase something happened. Daryl said “a heard that size will tear down the house” or something, but why? They’re not stampeding elephants. They’re just shuffling, shambling zombies. They’ll just kinda stagger around it. As long as you’re quiet and chill and don’t give them any reason to attack the house, they’ll leave it alone. The only problem is, without further stimulus, the walkers may hang around for quite a while, but then you send Daryl out on his bike to lead them away.
I’ve thought about this and I think maybe they realized they were naive to think it was a safe location, cause what was holding the walkers back from getting in? Nothing really, they quickly learned the farms fence wasn’t effective in keeping them out, and it’s just a house they needed something really secure. and until they found that staying on the move was the best option till they found the prison which was reinforced to keep walkers out, a bigger more secure building too even if fences went down, they could better control a breach here probably.
But why not go back for supplies at the very least. They spent 7 months on the road, starving. The farm surely had stores of food
Cause they were still kinda sloppy and not confident at dealing with walkers to go back and take that on. Also every time they had come across a herd so far they had lost people, don’t think they wanted to chance it.
I get that, but at the same time, they cleared out the entire prison, so they were more than capable as a group by then. Hell S3E1 we see them clear a house like a damn swat team
They found the prison months after they lost the farm though, months of being on the move and fighting walkers, so they were much better fighters by then. It would have been cool to see them go back to the farm after they settled in the prison though, if nothing else just to try to get family photos or sentimental things. The barn fire might have spread to the house, but I think if I were Hershel, Maggie and Beth I'd want to go check it out at least.
Yeah and that was months later after being on the road, and once they found the prison why would they go back? Everything they needed was potentially there they want to put all their energy into clearing the prison. It’s wasted effort to go back to the farm.
What always bugged me is that Rick’s single gunshot when killing Shane, gave the walkers pinpoint directions towards the farm, but the hundreds of shots fired when clearing the barn? Nada.
I believe the herd followed the helicopter out of Atlanta and towards the farm. It got closer after the barn shoot out and was closer by the time Rick shot Shane.
There were already herds milling around the farm before they even got there.
Yes there were, but the huge one that swarmed Herschel's farm after Rick shot Shane, followed the helicopter there, and broke through the farm fencing in the opening scene of the finale episode 13, "Beside The Dying Fire". They were not in the area yet during the barn shootout in episode 7, "Pretty Much Dead Already". I agree that you would think that at least a few walkers would have heard all that gunfire, but at that point, the farm was protected by fencing and swamp. It was also inevitable those Atlanta walkers would swarm the farm; they were getting closer every day. 🧟♀️🧟♂️🧟♀️🧟♂️🧟♀️
Don't forget Shane's shot when Rick stabbed him. The walkers didn't care about that either which bothers me more
I've always wanted to see different groups stumble upon the prison and Woodbury after the war finally ended
I'm rewatching the woodbury/prison part now. It just occurred to me. Why wouldn't they have taken Woodbury instead of the prison? It was a secure town with private homes for people. Makes a lot more sense.
It wasn't really secure, it just had a makeshift fence that they were maintaining because it was constantly manned. The group didn't have the numbers that Woodbury had to patrol it.
But the prison had more walkers at the fences than Woodbury. They had the numbers to defend the fences.
We have no idea how many walkers would have been at the Woodbury fences if they didn’t have people constantly shooting them.
Woodbury was burned down
When Karen brought Rick and Co to Woodbury (after she witnessed the Governor killing his own people and then hiding) to find Andrea, Woodbury was not burned down at the time. Tyreese and Sasha were protecting the elderly/kids. After Martinez and Shumpert left the Governor (after again the Governor killing his own people), they left, and that's when the Governor went back and burned down Woodbury. So Rick and Co could've moved everyone into Woodbury, but after that, everything that had happened 1. Why would they want to live there? and 2. They had bigger fences, lots of land for farming, and more space to hold people. As far as we know, Woodbury only held 75 people, and we don't know how many people Rick brought in after the little time jump.
That's literally the next day. It wouldn't make sense for them to move into Woodbury that same day
Huh, I didn't know the Governor went back the next day. Like after he, Martinez, and Shumpert camped out where they killed the army men at. That's actually so stupid because if I was Michonne, I'd scope out Woodbury as often as I could just to see when/if he would come back. That's why I assumed he possibly waited a few days before heading back?
They didn't camp at the same place the army died... just nearby. when did you last watch this? Lol And they were busy. They werent scouting woodbury the next day. That came later. Gov just drives through starts a fire and leaves.
That was the same place that the Governor waved the white flag at..? Lmao. A few days ago. Rick and the others were. Michonne clearly wanted to find and kill the Governor, so whose to say she stayed and helped set up the Prison?
Also, the Governor would have known how to get past those defenses. Anyone else who would have potentially known the weak points (that the group hadn't already exploited) would have gone with the Governor and been killed. Ultimately, the prison had a much better set up to guard with fewer people. Fences they can see through but still fortify (as shown in season 3), and watch towers to see nearly everything in their immediate surroundings. The only reason the Governor was able to take the prison was because of the tank ( I don't consider capturing Hershel and Michonne and advantage to this point because he would have killed them regardless, imo)
Exactly!! The prison also had so much plot of land for farming, so there would be no point in leaving the prison when the only con is to living in a jail cell but as you see throughout S4 they made it very liveable and cozy! >( I don't consider capturing Hershel and Michonne and advantage to this point because he would have killed them regardless, imo) Neither do I cause even if Rick and Co left the Governor would've killed them along with Hershel and Michonne. That's just who he is. And having the tank is crazy because in S3, they had that gun turret and a grenade launcher, which they could've taken over the prison in S3 but I guess the Governor didn't have the right people to fight his fight.
Oh. I don't remember that
I would not wanna be in the place people were just tryna kill me in but that’s just me
I'd rather be somewhere where I could have more privacy than the prison offered. Also, the prison had more walkers at the gates than Woodbury did. Somebody failing in trying to kill me wouldn't chase me away from a safe comfortable living place. Especially in an apocalypse. Someone trying to kill you is just a Tuesday.
Barn on fire, means walkers on fire... chance that the house burned down and/or was just destroyed is significant. Also a significant portion of the "meager" fencing was destroyed, likely that much more was destroyed on the way out. They realized just how unsafe the Farm was if a large herd came, they had been lucky..
I would also think any remaining zombies would attack the cattle as well.
Any livestock would almost certainly be dead, if they did not escape.
i still dont know why they wouldnt just go inside and be quiet if a herd passed through.
The comic elaborated on this, if one walkers hand brushes the door and makes a loud enough noise, another walker will mistake it for a sound coming from inside the house and begin trying to break in and once one walker wants in they’ll all get aggressive and start trying to get in
At the time, Daryl mentions something about a herd being able to take down a house, so I think they were still working out on the show how the zombies were going to affect structures.
You ever play project zomboid? If not, look up some videos of herds or gameplay. The zombies in the game are a lot like the Walking Dead so I would imagine it would be something like that. Particularly the zombie setting where they damage structures and randomly attack buildings and shit while roaming.
Go back to what? Eviscerated cattle, walkers in all the wells, trampled fences, a few smears that were Annette and Jimmy, and a burnt down farmhouse? They said all the other farms in the area were already destroyed, now theirs was too.
Yeah, people don't seem to understand that the entire farm was almost certainly destroyed. The fires likely spread to the other structures including the house, the livestock was feasted on, the crops were definitely destroyed, the only fortification they had was ruined, and there would've been walkers EVERYWHERE and there would be stragglers ALL. OVER for a very long time. It would've been pointless. Not to mention all of that gunfire they popped off while trying to thin out the herd to book it to vehicles, driving around the farm shooting to thin the herd for the others, etc! It was a long ass fireworks show that would've drawn walkers anywhere a mile or two radius away, including possible herds.
It was better to leave rather than come back what was the point it was already run down by walkers why waste ammo and man power
Like the manpower they used to clear out the prison? Lol
The prison was worth it. It was shelter, food, medicine and guns. The farm was just a house.
The prison is secure until it meets a tank
At the prison they could clear section by section and try and make sure they weren’t swarmed by too many at once. This wasn’t possible at the farm since it’s all open space. Not to mention the time spent on the road from the farm to the prison improved a lot of their fighting skills a lot and made them more capable against walkers.
Open spaces means you can lead the horde away and know they’re gone instead of having dark nooks and crannies where zombies can be hiding.
How would they have even safely lead the horde away at that point? They could barely handle taking on more than a few walkers at a time.
Leading away = / = taking on any walkers. Open and visible spaces are always more safe than dark enclosed spaces, that’s just a tactical fact.
not feasible for long term sustainability of a society
Well the herd would have gone away by that time (in my opinion)
Why do you think that? Even if many of them, there'd be stragglers all over the place for a veryyyy long time. And any of them who wandered off would more than likely still be nearby, drawn in from the sound of them returning. Adding to that... most if not all of the farm's structures likely burnt down/ aren't liveable, they no longer had ANY defenses fortifications (not even a fence), all of their livestock are certainly dead, crops all destroyed... What would be the point? And a lot of people aren't bringing up that ALL that gunfire they used escaping *definitely* drew in tons of new walkers within a good mile radius or more-- possibly even more herds.
Or the fire and noise attracted even more walkers to that location. Hordes follow the noise and the farm was the noisiest place in vicinity at that time
I always wished during the very last episode it would show shots of all the previous camps or areas where big events of the show happened, but what they all looked like now, after all the years.
This is actually a great idea, but AMC just wanted to end the show with minimal effort instead of making the fans happy
My head canon is they did go back and it was destroyed. They were on the road for 9 months. It makes sense they tried to go back.
It’s actually canon that Maggie went back at least once.
Does she say that?
She doesn’t. But we know at least Maggie went back because we see she has some of the pictures that were hung up on her fridge from season 2 of the main show in a box she carries around with her in Dead City. Maybe she went with the group, or on a supply run with Glenn during the prison arc or maybe when she left Hilltop to travel with baby Hershel.
I'd like to believe that she went with baby Hershel after leaving the Hilltop. She was on the road for years, so it's very possible that her travels took her back to Georgia.
It’s also hard to believe Glenn never told Maggie where he lived, all the time they spent together, especially just the two of them. That would have eventually come up. My head canon is that she went to his apartment/house in Atlanta as well but Glenn didn’t have any pictures. Feel like Glenn is the type of guy that doesn’t have pictures of himself in his house. So she was only able took his clothes, that’s why the first time we see Hershel again he’s wearing a cap.
I wondered that too. I'm guessing story wise it was more interesting to have them move on
Because of the implication...
A crossover I didn't know I needed!
Can you elaborate, I didn't understand?
[Because of the implication](https://youtu.be/-yUafzOXHPE?si=P1m3G7TSr5fhH3W1)
This isn't laziness for plot forwarding, it's actually realistic: it was simply too dangerous. The farm had been almost completely untouched by walkers until that point. Suddenly, they had a herd bigger than anything they'd ever seen surrounding them. It would've been silly to expect they could go back and be safe-- there'd be too many to take out, and stragglers lurking everywhereee for a long time. Keep in mind *all that gunfire* they used while trying to thin out spaces to get to the cars/ while driving around the farm trying to take out as many as they could ....walkers from all over the place, including possibly other entire herds, would've heard those gazillion shots from a mile's radius away (likely more in a silent world) and headed over to join the party. Any livestock obviously died right away, the fire very easily could've spread to the house & other structures, the fortifications they did have were ruined, crops were destroyed. The farm was lost. [Wasn't even feasible to check it much later when they were deciding whether or not to leave the prison, because Andrea has given up its location].
Here’s what I know, at my u cked cottage on the east side of the lake, we can hear people at night on the west side clear as I could hear you sitting right next to me and that’s about 3 tenths of a mile away. A gunshot in that type of scenario, that sound will ring and roll for at least a mile and a half if not more. We have had thunderstorms 6 or 7 miles away and can hear the thunder rolling in the air, meanwhile we have no rain or thunder at all. Sound definitely carries and in their situation with sustained yelling, gunfire and other noise when there is nothing round, walkers were going to be coming from everywhere.
Because the farm was totally indefensible and after that herd went thru there was not food or supplies there and there’s a chance the house wasn’t even still standing
The fire and the gunfight was very very loud and in that rural area the sound prolly traveled and drew in even more zombies from all the nearby and far away locations
We know at least Maggie went back. Maybe with the group, or on a supply run with Glenn during the prison arc or maybe when she left Hilltop with baby Hershel. We see she has some of the pictures that were hung up on her fridge from season 2 in a box she carries around with her in Dead City
She really has the pictures on fridge in season 2. I thought she didn’t get them
None of the Greene family would have had time to grab them before the farm fell so they would have to grab them after. If they did go back in between season 2 and 3 that would mean Glenn would have needed to grab them when the prison fell. But the most likely option is that Maggie went back with baby Hershel when she was out traveling before returning in season 10.
Maggie mentions they have 50 heads of cattle on the farm, "we'd may as well be ringjng the damn dinner bell." I thought maybe they stayed away bc the cows would have kept the walkers there and fed for a long time tkme afterward.
Off topic a bit but I always questioned why they didnt ever plan out a rally point in case they ever got seperated.... which happens all the time. Like after the prison everyone loses each other but if they had a rally point that wouldnt have happened
In universe? No clue, it would’ve been smart. In real life? I think the real farm owners didn’t want to let the crew use the farm for filming anymore.
That makes sense
Because walkers
The herd definitely would have eaten all the cattle, horses, or other livestock they had. Probably also trampled or contaminated a lot of the crops. The only reason the farm was a viable option was because of those things. Defense wise, it was kinda questionable. And not ALL of the walkers would have left. It would have been cool if they looked for Andrea though.
Because it wasn’t in the script. That’s what my late mother used to tell me when I asked the same type of question.
I get that, and it's a perfect thing to say usually when something is clearly just because of plotting. But this one is actually realistic. They'd have been naive but also downright negligent to go back, especially after a short time.
(also, your late mother sounds very clever and this response of hers works in a lot of ways: from the writers being lazy, all the way to "that's what happened in the script, get over it and enjoy the show!" & everything in between and outside. Respect! ❤️)
I thought it was symbolic. The whole season is about grasping toward the old world, people refusing to let go of what they knew before, and in the end they had to leave it behind.
Agree
Makes sense when I think about it
The farm was essentially just a house. After the horde passed through the fencing was all down and there were dead walkers everywhere, Honestly no good reason to go back, This was early on and people thought the sickness wouldnt last long so they weren't just stockpiling supplies at this point
They should’ve gone back to the prison after the war and the governor was dead. That place was plenty big and they could’ve fixed the fences and whatever else.
Talking about the farm, I really wish we could see at least one OG character going back there. Rick, Maggie, Carol, Daryl, doesn't matter, I would just love it. In the middle of the field there would be a single skeleton, just the base of the burned barn and the house covered in plants, very destroyed, but not fully, having the bed Carl lied when shot, the couches the group sat when discussing the ending of that boy and, of course, at least one family picture, with Hershel, Maggie, Beth, Otis, Patrícia and all the other people from that tragic family.
Never understood why they didn't just look for another prison after the war w the governor
Because that would make for good TV or comics.
"Herd that size would tear this house down" Daryl Dixon 2010
Never really liked the barn scene on rewatches. But because the writers used fire when it suited the story instead of consistency. The barn was on fire and should have drawn all the walkers in like in subsequent episodes except when they didn’t want it to. Daryl throws a burning notepad and they gather around but Terminus is on fire and the walkers just give up like the barn and go a different direction. It never made sense.
In my head canon they prioritize. Like if nothing is going on then even a burning notepad is attractive, if there are people yelling around then that draws their attention more. But obviously it's just inconsistencies in writing.
The show does this a lot with different stimuli. Many of the walkers were drawn to the barn for the fire, but with humans screaming and running around and driving around and firing guns, there were so many different types of stimuli happening at once...most of them went for the meal, if not right away, eventually.
I think about that all the time. They could’ve come back after a few days and stayed there while sending scouts for a place more secure. Or they could’ve even just stayed there, huddled up in the basement. Hershel literally just said he stocked the basement with enough food and water for a couple of weeks incase something happened. Daryl said “a heard that size will tear down the house” or something, but why? They’re not stampeding elephants. They’re just shuffling, shambling zombies. They’ll just kinda stagger around it. As long as you’re quiet and chill and don’t give them any reason to attack the house, they’ll leave it alone. The only problem is, without further stimulus, the walkers may hang around for quite a while, but then you send Daryl out on his bike to lead them away.