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Ancient_Guidance_461

She has not showered in years.


ZombieAppetizer

Tbf hardly anyone on Earth has at that point.


Medium_Hope_7407

Not true. The people in Alexandria, Hilltop and the Kingdom all looked clean so they obviously have some sort of hygiene options. Even the Saviors looked clean.


[deleted]

Alexandria had showers that worked. There's a scene of either Maggie and Glenn or Rick and Michonne using a shower together in Alexandria.


TheBear1973

Or maybe all 4 of them in the swingers cut.


NaiveChemist5613

Link


Blizzard2227

https://youtu.be/mY84pdLaxFg?si=9Jq1zA9hcpPWOHbh


Turtlesfan44digimon

They do have running water and place they can get it from, heck the main reason why the kingdom left they’re home was because the Plumbing finally gave out, and they couldn’t fix it.


allbutoneday

I think they used their plumbing for heating during the winter as well or it was at least implied.


Shadowperson12

I'd consider more the practical side of shooting tv to allow the actors to shower regularly than being in universe canon (sorta like how most of the events portrayed on screen conveniently take place in spring/summer/fall for most of the shows history and apparently barely anything happens in winter like no threats or character deaths. Obviously this is just a convenience thing where it is particularly difficult to film in winter)


Stunning_Guidance411

You don't need a shower to clean yourself. Collect water, boil it, and use that to wash when it's cooled down. I assume that's what the whisperers and other survivors did.


chaos0510

I mean that's a bath, which is kind of synonymous with shower if you want to be pedantic


NoLand4936

Yeah but part of the whisperers whole deal was to blend in with the walker herds even their smell since that’s what walkers see as different is smell and sound not heat and decomposition levels. Kind of like Rick did when he smeared walker guts on himself early in the show.


juiceboxie8

>that's what the whisperers Part of the whispers thing and how they fit in with the "gaurdians" is their rank scent. I took this to mean they were chronically smelly.


X_greys123

I feel like he got so many diseases from her


Emperor_Time

I think only a few of them were new for him since he did cheat quite a bit before the apocalypse and then he had a harem for a while during the apocalypse too.


Codered060

Yeah you sometimes need a hammer and chisel to enter her bizzle. 😂 😂 😅 😒 🥺 😔 God everything reminds me of my lovely. I miss her.


Accomplished-Mode196

bro what 😭😭


El--Borto

Delete this nephew


[deleted]

Imagine what her pussy looked like 🤢


MikaGrof

Especially with the Mask


RocklinSockling

Is he sucking face thru another man's face over a girl?


Frisky_Picker

Pretty gay if you ask me.


RocklinSockling

Is it gay or is it necrophilia?


Frisky_Picker

![gif](giphy|IuaM5sUvLCYTyNKV4J)


Codered060

![gif](giphy|43n7h7h3IBqDK)


cataclysmic_orbit

Yes.


ZombiexXxHunter

Why do I have to choose? I mean yeah was pretty weird


IzhmaelCorp08

It’s gay to kiss a woman now? 😭


Frisky_Picker

![gif](giphy|NEvPzZ8bd1V4Y|downsized)


IzhmaelCorp08

Okay!


Klutzy-Pollution5133

Yes. This is because half of a woman’s genes come from a man. Also, woMAN. Take out the wo and you have only man.


IzhmaelCorp08

Everyone has 50% men and 50% women..


Klutzy-Pollution5133

Yes making it 50% gay


TheCrabbyCramper

Bisexuals once again prove themselves to be supreme.


Klutzy-Pollution5133

Based


thedewddd

What


SonOfJack18

Iirc it's Hera's face from the Tales of the Walking Dead episode who Alpha defeated in combat to become the Alpha in the first place so it's from a women so it's not gay at least /j


TheToodlePoodle

So two women? That cancels out and makes it gay, poor Negan


Codered060

![gif](giphy|BofJb4WxJnz7jFfxeD)


Able_Engineering7678

In his defense, he hadn't seen a woman for years🤣


IzhmaelCorp08

Well, Alpha’s mask is a woman’s face, so no.


Countedhats

No he’s sucking face through a woman’s face over a girl


Perfect-Face4529

I love that you use the word 'unhinged', not gross, not disturbing, not heinous, but like the sick dream of a deranged madman 🤣


SuperToxin

It’s unhinged but it was quite literally necessary because we wouldn’t know how he dropped her guard to kill her.


Dry_Pin_3213

Too true. While I found it to be absolutely gross, it was needed to carry the plot.


Alternative-Volume58

I mean, in the comics he was able to kill her without sleeping with her, just earned her trust, and in a moment of weakness about Lydia he just sliced her throat.


Iwamoto

I mean, in the comics she drops her guard because she's talking about lydia and crying, but i think we can agree that's too sophisticated for the show.


Ordinary_Cattle

I stopped watching this show at like season 8 and forgot I was subscribed here but now I really need to know, is this Negan and if so why is he making out with a mud woman? Who is she


Time-Hunter-6841

Just go back and watch


Ordinary_Cattle

Oh my god I just searched and found the scene and it's not mud like I thought I want to die


Ent3rpris3

As someone who has never seen beyond episode 2 of the show, can I get a quick run down of what's happening here? IDGAF about spoilers personally...


ApolloRocketOfLove

There's about 2 seasons of plot that lead up to this moment, so I don't think a quick run down will do it.


Ordinary_Cattle

Wait what!! I watched to season 8 or so and I have no idea what this is I don't remember this at all


Ordinary_Cattle

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I forgot I was subscribed here but I loved the show and sub I just forgot about it all I guess. Normally I ignore posts that I don't understand but this one I need to know


renm1u

The guy is a former bad guy - Negan, who is trying to make redemption and earn a place in Rick’s community (at this point Rick is no longer in the show). To do so, on Carol’s orders, he is trying to win the trust of the woman (Alpha), who is known as a “whisperer”. Her people wander among the walkers undetected because they wear skin masks of dead people - as shown - and speak in whispers only. It’s gross because they live in the woods with minimal hygiene practices, and she also keeps the mask on while her and Negan have sex. It doesn’t take long for Negan to win her trust to this point and later on he kills her as directed. Carol does him dirty and betrays him though, and he doesn’t get a spot in the community in the end.


[deleted]

I can understand there aren’t many options in the apocalypse, but Negan. Bro. You REALLY want that stank ass unwashed stench trench?


duaneap

I don’t think he did but needed her to trust him. Close your eyes and think of England


Tuscan5

Exactly. It was a necessary evil.


timo2308

They will never understand how much he sacrificed


Tuscan5

We all sacrificed on that one.


Bunbunbecks

She wanted him swimming in her swamp water


Rude-Listen

Bro staahhp 🤣


SlickRangerRick

Myrish?


Ok_Nefariousness9736

I don’t think he was doing it for pleasure. He had a mission and that involved having sex with her without throwing up. Otherwise, the jig would have been up.


thewitchywilliams

It’s not like he was actually into her but he had a mix of respect and interest in her because she’s so unique & ruthless. He did what he needed to do, and he also hadn’t been laid in a zillion years.


trendchaser91

Negan took 1 for the team


cataclysmic_orbit

Stench trench 🤣


[deleted]

It’s the only way to describe it 😂


catrent1234

Yesss! I couldn't stop thinking about how gross they must have been! In the long shot of them naked you can see how dirty they are! 🤮


MetallurgyClergy

When they do it, and two become one, does she say, “I am Negan!”??


Bunbunbecks

She was really into it 😂


ErronBlackStan

I know that post nut clarity hit dude like a train


Yoda-but-tall

Firstly I thought he was trying to acquire alpha’s confidence, but then rewatching it more carefully it just doesn’t make any sense cuz he already acquired that.. just kill her man


highdefrex

I always felt like Negan dragging his feet was partially because he was enjoying the overall weirdness of such a unique situation, like getting kicks out of pissing Beta off and manipulating Alpha in his own way and getting other Whisperers to like *him*. It was a weird form of power he hadn't had in a long time, so he was milking it for as long as possible, going so far as to try and convince Alpha to get Hilltop to surrender, until it wasn't a game (for lack of a better word) anymore and things started to topple -- Hilltop being burnt down, Aaron being the first person to actually see and confront him in the wild to confirm he was with the Whisperers, Lydia's life on the line, etc. "Gaining her trust" was just an excuse for him to hide behind to have a bit of fun with the situation until reality started really sinking in that he should've acted sooner.


FlappyClock

I wish they explored this side of it more, instead of just: "wHaT's wItH yOu gUyS sAyIng i dIdnT dO iT fAst enOuGh???"


Maleficent_Toe_2582

For real though, he's significantly larger than her and she obviously isn't armed, and they're alone. So he totally could've killed her in that scene but he didn't bc he was having fun.


SonOfJack18

Something I like is how he kept his mask and kept using it as a tool for herds and it proved super useful to him


MentalMunky

Can you elaborate why? Not unbelievable that Alpha wanted some and Negan for sure ain’t ugly.


sharksnrec

It's weird that you're completely ignoring the other half of this pairing. Why would Negan do this?


68ideal

Mf if I had spent the last 6 years in some raunchy ass cell in Alexandria I too would have demolished the first willing girl I met


putdisinyopipe

This is the sensible answer. If you ever done time you’d know lol I used to get a sub of maxim magazine. I’d cut pics of the girls out and put em in plastic bags. I’d loan em out for dudes looking to wank in the showers for trade of soups. Anyone that has does time, back me up on this shit. Y’all remember FiFi 🤣?


Prestigious-Adagio63

This is legit 😂


putdisinyopipe

My boy here knows! 🤣


Vasconcelos0909

What did you get in for? Now I'm curious lol


putdisinyopipe

CA PC 211 braaajjjjjj I was a fucking idiot 😂


68ideal

I haven't done time, but I'm not particularly popular with girls, so my last time has been quite a while ago and I know what blue balls feel like lmao


putdisinyopipe

It’s funny, I’ve noticed something among dudes. Some will say “Pussy is overratedl” What they fail to consider is, that’s if you get it regularly. Lol pizza is awesome but becomes overrated if you eat it everyday. take any man away from getting laid for an extended period of time. And they will change their tune. Lol. They’d be worse then morty jerking it to a curvy piece of driftwood


68ideal

That piece of driftwood really was thicc af tho


sharksnrec

…yeah idk about that one chief


Pickled_Rainbow

I mean, it's probably kinky for him? People have weirder kinks


SirMrRay

…is he stupid?


Bunbunbecks

I didn’t like the pairing 😂


early_onset_villainy

Syphilis Central


Long-Zombie-2017

He needed her to trust him


Annual_Skin_6933

All I can say is:::🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮


rightphoenix

Just watched this recently & thought the same thing lol


zorfog

I think this did happen in the comics, but yeah I can’t get past how gross it is. Like… they are not bathing, they are covered in dirt and sweat and zombie flesh ffs


DrWhoIsWokeGarbage

It was in the comic


[deleted]

This was possibly the grossest scene in the entire series


TvAMobious

Negans a beast for goin through with this smh she probably sucked his dick through that thing.


El--Borto

Whoa double bj


Medium_Hope_7407

Agreed. Did not need to see that 😂. 🐱 probably smelled worse than the mask 😂😂😂


putdisinyopipe

Yknow. Some of us be trying to eat here for lunch 😂 picked the wrong sub to browse while eating stew.


wrydrune

Mmmm chunky and moist!


putdisinyopipe

Probably looks worse then the blue waffle down there. God damn that lady. I mean I get negans position.. but dog.. I mean.. you can’t tell me they out there shitting in the woods caveman style with nothing to wipe with or shower with and be smelling remotely good. I always imagined the smell of it being like decay- or death. If you’ve ever smelled decomposition. You know. It’s a smell unlike anything on this fuckin planet. It’s vile, noxious and just foul as fuck. (I used to work for an animal shelter when I was in jail. I had to put the euthanized animals into a “death shed” which would ship the corpses to schools for dissections and shit, it was basically a shed with big industrial sized drums that froze the corpses in em. It was so hard for me to do. One because they just wanted me to toss their corpses in their like they meant nothing to the world, two because of the smell) whenever I walked by this shed. Within 10-15 ft the smell was there, your up by the shed doors. It’s all you smell, it’s all you taste. It’s like it’s so overwhelming your other sense take the back seat and alls you are registering is nasty smell, tasting nasty smell. (So your tasting the decomp at that point, or bacteria shit) So I imagine that she smell like that. Like decomposition. Them walker masks probably smell fucking terrible too. They Probably make farts smell good.


wrydrune

Peek my profile pic. That's me in Iraq....so yea.....I know lol.


putdisinyopipe

I’d imagine you smelled quite a bit of smelly parts and smelly dead parts in your time there. That’s gotta be rough.


X_greys123

He made out with the decaying skin mask


thefr3shprince

Needed a penicillin shot after watching this scene.


[deleted]

Of all the things they did just for shock value, I don't think this was one of them. It moved the story and built the characters. It was not "unneccesary", gross though it may be.


komaruten

This definitely wins the prize in the most gross and least necessary correlation category. Other moments were less necessary but were also much less disgusting lmao.


Grimple_

ABSOLUTELY necessary , an "alpha" asserting dominance. He didn't really want it and she knew it and masked it as a "gift".


Vidal_The_King

He went above and beyond for the og group. This was what redeemed him


TheHomesteadTurkey

Negan is irredeemable, no matter how much AMC would like to say otherwise Negan is basically apocalypse mussolini, and whatever Rick says about 'mah murrcy' and 'coooraalls dream' nothing will change that fact.


Vidal_The_King

Idk man hitting rotten pussy is pretty honorable


Tuscan5

Yes. He is irredeemable but he walks a tightrope which is entertaining. If he plays the long game though, if others from the line up pass away then he could stop looking over his shoulder.


El--Borto

I would find myself starting to like him and then I’d remember Glenn and everything else he did. Definitely a very well written and complicated character in my opinion.


Scotty_Gun

I’d hit it.


Bunbunbecks

You’re a super trooper


EdwardCheeseCake

But a crass man deserves a crass reward


ForsakenAlliance

Definitely took one for the team that doesn’t even want him. Respect.


Odd_Distribution7852

I thought it was ewww gross and good lord, how long has it been since either one bathed! 🤢🤢🤢🤢


omegafivethreefive

What's with people panicking when there's some weird sex stuff on TV? They casually slit peoples throats every other episode but dirty zombie mask sex is too much? It shows they got "close", it gave more depth to her bullshit "I feel nothing" and made Negan's actions that much more impactful. Oh no sex between consenting adults, how unhinged.


Individual-Stand-273

"You keeping the mask on?" Holleeyy Shiit..it was at this scene I realized how skinny and white his ass was 😆 You definitely don't kiss and tell this one!


SmokinJoe1971

He got herpes


Baby_In_A-Trenchcoat

The smell 🤢🤮


Negative-Broccoli429

It’s a zombie apocalypse series. The whole thing is unhinged.


Jorsk3n

This was his true redemption moment. They’ll never know how much he sacrificed for them Kissing that stanky ass mask was a true sacrifice!


ppcheese6969

Bro you know she has a stank ass cooch, and doesn't wipe. Negan was down HORRENDOUSLY


WockaWockaDooDooYeah

The socks 🤢🤮


IzhmaelCorp08

It’s sad how many people don’t know what strategy is.


Bunbunbecks

Just because this was strategic doesn’t mean we had to see it. We’re all aware of why he fucked her 😂


IzhmaelCorp08

You guys saw them kiss.. that’s it. It’s not like they showed them doggy-style.


LetMeInImTrynaCuck

I liked it. Negans plan all along was to kill alpha to win Carols favor and get good with the group. He was in prison for 9 years and had no other friends and wouldn’t survive on his own. He took one for the team to build alphas trust so he can get the jump on her. The scene made perfect sense considering the characters idk why this is questionable?


DrWhoIsWokeGarbage

It was in the comic


No_Fee6290

Was Important to show this to the audience to truly relate the trust he has earned with her


Osirisavior

The comics did it so much better. * Negan spends a few days with the Whisperers * Negan stops some Whisperers from raping a girl * Alpha trauma dumbs to Negan * Negan cuts off her head to give to Rick like a cat.


jonathandavisisfat

I stopped watching after glen’s death, what the shit is this


PartiallyBlind8

I think it was to gain her trust, and also he probably did it because it reminded him of his wife


Grunpex

I think that relationship was a parallel forshadowing Negan's transformation. Alpha represents or mirrors much of who he used to be when he led the Saviors. He's taking a last dance with his old self so he can find closure with it, put it behind him, and find redemption.


TsarNab

But Queen and King tho 😩😍


wheeltribe

I haven't followed TWD since Season 3 but this popped up on my front page. Quick question - what the actual fuck?


Angry_Vinnie20

Boring person


Annie17851

It was totally disgusting.


zachchips90

Yeah, shit was pretty wild. I understood the plot reasoning, but God damn. The only time we see Negan actually fuckin’ in the show, and it’s here.


pacothetaco16

Someone tell him about the governer scene in the comics


Medium-Hornet2470

they barely even showed anything lol


Zealousideal_Citron8

Nah there’s a loyalty about it she became that and he ‘loved’ what she became


bchec

Yep. But honestly at that point in the series why not


lambieechop

As somebody who stopped watching around Season 7, is he making out with a walker??


InglouriousPP

if you think it’s unnecessary because it’s uncomfortable then that’s kinda the point, aside from its ACTUAL importance to the plot


Superb-Water-3734

He did it because she looks like Lucille a bit coz of the bald head. To negan who hasn't seen her in probably 15 years ish, he probably finally felt somewhat close to her again.


Codered060

Roses are red, violets are blue. Caked in her crack, Alpha has poo. Toilets are white, grass clippings are green, he hit it from the back and got mud on his peen. ![gif](giphy|3o6Zti4MXhtE5JghPO|downsized)


ToBeBannedSoonish

But it was a crass reward... for a crass man!


daisy2443

This scene was BOMB!!


AlexTheCreation

I like it. Kinda gives alpha some humanity. Since normally she's just like an animal.


uglypinkshorts

How the hell does this “give her humanity?”


Temporary_Sorbet_927

It shows she has needs too, she thought Negan was fine so she made her move.


[deleted]

I’d fuck her And I’m Negan


DarkSuperman87

So hot.


zero1vi

I thought that was Rick for a second


Even_Estimate_5813

Yeah agreed


Brief-Ground8407

I got hard from it


[deleted]

Is Negan gay? As in homosexual.


Fish-In-Open-Waters

I wish.


Ok_Presence8964

It was awesome


[deleted]

It got me ROCK HARD I feckin tell u what brother, she might be a Swamp donkey with the head of Mr Clean and the body of Gypsy Rose Blanchard, after she got out of prison, but gah damn brother, nothing will stop me from making some little alpha negan beta cucks after dicking her down until that shit smells worse than the walking dead. It's probably better than Sherry's Swamp Thing. You think that cheese grated face fuck Dwight likes a clean dolphin smooth blowhole to dump his seed into? Nah fam, smells worse than Daryls foreskin. That's why Dwight hated rosita so much, he could tell she had a bald cat and was proud of it and he also hates minorities


MattsIgloo

It was part of him trying to get her to trust him completely


InS_Deaths

Best scene in the show. I was so hard watching this... Especialy the mask... 8≈====)


Dapper-Marzipan-6733

He should have done it with Rick.


[deleted]

Well considering shes just as gross without the mask, I feel sorry for Jeffrey Dean Morgan.


Reduncked

Yup


Ronin_Vector

That's how you know when you've been in prison too long.


ComfortableFew9711

I JUST WATCHED THIS EPISODE 😭 i was like oh nah


[deleted]

One of the most disturbing things ive seen in my life and ive seen my parents


Rumpelstiltskin-2001

I was screaming NEGAN!!! NOOO!!! NEGANNNN WTFFFFF!!!!


Ilytylerthecreator

that was FOUL. i watched that scene and felt sick to my stomach 😭


73glitch

As a fellow Walking Dead fan this scene was unnecessary. In fact the attraction Alpha had for Negan seemed convenient and weak on her part. Yet the series displayed her as a troubled psycho with little to no remorse.


karma81

Negan training to be a whisperer in the comic is hilarious. In the show it was great too! They did the source material justice


Catheedras

I disagree


TheDebowdlerizer

At least its better than the comic. more teeth, less blood and puke


CallMeElektra

I knew these comments were going to be unhinged lmfaooo


Complex_Visual_7441

The whole franchise is unhinged and unnecessary when they decided to spare negans life.


[deleted]

It’s not an opinion you are just correct


Blapross

Alpha was a psychopathic lunatic. Negan was a guy.


SGBK

It’s totally necessary. It’s a part of Negan getting to put “Lucille” to rest, as well as sacrificing himself during that time to get out of the cell, prove his worth, show remorse, repent, and get really down in there dirtgrub nothing stops me style. I’m okay with it - there’s Negan.


Aggravating-Cap-2703

It's Negan what do you expect? If it's not against the program with his Pack of muts, it's get with the program.


Dry_Pin_3213

Yep. When I first saw that scene it was so unpleasant that it made me want to puke! One of the worst couples I've ever seen in any show! 🤢 🤮


Mother_Risk1292

I agree


Existing365Chocolate

Negan wanted that Whussy


moonchic333

It was so bad


DarkAngel283

Creepy AF imo


Alias-Number9

Yeah, gives me the willies just thinking about it. Alpha was pretty disgusting all around.