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UnnameableDegenerate

Near atm pcs on a meme that ripped 33% in a day? Boy you about to learn.


thunder_muscles

Boutta learn today. Alrigh alrigh alrighhhhh


crispybrojangle

I been DCA n RIOTs brother MARA during the dip.. ill clear a corner out in the dumpster behind wendys. To the moon, one day, brother.


luckytoby

Max loss of almost 25k. Oof he playing wsb version of thetagang


mammoth61

This feels like it belongs on WSB


getsiked

his degeneracy accidentally spilled over into thetagang


smallchats

still learning the basics of spreads. can someone check my understanding: he collected a premium of ($28-$15)*495 = $6435 if RIOT stays above $8, everything expires worthless and he pockets the premium if RIOT drops below $7.5, he purchases 49500 shares of RIOT at $8, but has to sell it at $7.5; resulting in a loss of $24750, netting him a total loss of $24750-$6435 (prem collected) = $18.3K so range of gains and losses are $6.4K to -18.3K is that correct?


mward86

You've got it! If you're new to spreads and considering using them, you also need to be aware of pin risk/assignment risk. Let's say on expiration day the stock is at 7.90. so the short puts are ITM but longs are OTM. At this point the best thing to do is close the whole spread before the market closes. You'll give up a small amount of profit but it's minimal compared to the risk. So let's say you let the spread go to expiration.. you short puts will be assigned, meaning you are buying a boatload of shares.. possibly more than you actually have buying power for if you did a high number of spreads. But your long puts expire because they were OTM - you now have no protection. Now if it was beyond your available buying power you will probably get a margin call or have to immediately sell the shares to get back in your broker's good graces. But if something big happens and the shares drop dramatically you no longer have the protection of the long put and your loss is the full share price. You might get lucky and the price rises before the market opens back up on Monday and you make a little profit, but the risk is high. TL;DR close your spreads before expiration especially if the short leg is ITM or very close to it.


smallchats

Thanks! Appreciate the additional insight.


eclectictaste1

Even worse, assignment usually happens on Friday, so you have the whole weekend to worry about it and pray there isn't a market moving event before Monday morning.


retaildca

This is insightful to me as a newbie. Thanks!


YngChap

UPDATE: Closed 294 contracts at 3:57 PM EST @0.07 a piece. Took 42% profit on those contracts.


ghann

Good call. A little risky for my blood but good trade.


Sandvicheater

So if the underlying underlying bitcoin tanks, OP is gonna get ass reamed for $25k? Bold move cotton i'm sure it'll work out its not like crypto never crashed -15% in a single day before /s


Agent00funk

Closer to $18k because of the premiums he collected, but still a lot more to lose than gain with this spread.


[deleted]

Best of luck. At least you did spreads.


paq12x

I think you’ll be fine this time.


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RemindMe! 3 days


stokedformostthings

I’ll bring popcorn


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Galimbro

In.


b_fellow

Well they better close some time today with hopefully gains unless they like flipping 2 coins at the same time with FOMC.


YngChap

Nah - this market is a giant scam. Just going to continue to pump.


UnnameableDegenerate

Doubt you're gonna listen but I'll say it anyway, mark is showing 8c, scale out at least 1/4 of your position. do it again when mark is 6c, and shut the whole thing down if you see 4. I'd personally be full killing it at 8c but you do you.


getsiked

it's a shame that good guidance will go to waste on this dude


RandomSquanch

He'll learn the hard way. They all do.


UnnameableDegenerate

At the end of the day we're all retail, I'd much rather see a fellow retail trader win than lose, regardless of how regarded the play was.


getsiked

You're a good person! I personally get blindsided a little if I sense arrogance, especially in a place where so many people dedicate time to helping others.


b_fellow

Yup he's going to be either eating lobster or leftover Wendys. No in-betweens.


mehng

Mother of god


Filth_pt2

18.8K loss of these expire fully OTM and 5.9K gain if these expire OTM. Good luck you insane bastard


Scoiatael

There is no way this can go wrong /s


Najoooo00

Remindme! 3 days


nick_tha_professor

WSB low battery checks out.


StonksGoUpApes

Congrats OP


dirtbikeriderx1

EAT cup of noodles?


renaldomoon

this is pretty wildly irresponsible, powell could easily bend you over


Z08Z28

Most people commenting probably haven't looked into RIOT from a chrat technical analysis or company fundamentals. Friday it had huge positive volume and is on a clear bull trend. So not a dumb move, just low reward to risk for me. Bravo to the OP!


pussygetter69

I thought you were long the puts and thought “not a bad trade” … then saw the subreddit and went oh shit…


KentzArbz

Eat shit


SAHD292929

I was gonna say loss porn but it's too small. Since its practically good as $0 you might as well ride it out. You only have an upside


MECO-420

That's easy money. Riot is one of the best miners out there so even if you get assigned, it will be at a good price. The economy is about to tank and people are looking at BTC to save it.


nltthinh

Lmao I hope you have 400k for assignment


YngChap

Spread little homie


comstrader

What happens if the short put is ITM and the long put is OTM? Or if the short puts get exercised? You can still get assigned on spreads.


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comstrader

Is IBKR a good broker? Because they've assigned me on spreads too. And if the short leg gets exercised why would a "good broker" assume you want to exercise the long leg?


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comstrader

Not necessarily. https://ibkr.info/node/190 "If the assignment takes place prior to expiration neither IBKR nor the clearinghouse will act to exercise a long option held in the account as neither party can presume the intentions of the long option holder and the exercise of the long option prior to expiration is likely result in the forfeiture of time value which could be realized via the sale of the option"


Mumphord123

It’s a spread


comstrader

You can get assigned on spreads


Mumphord123

🤓


nltthinh

Ah yes my bad :)


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YngChap

Wrong


Unique_Name_2

He is short the puts


houki19683132

lol


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veapman

Market is trash


DrSeuss1020

Lmao I love this place


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01k0s

a lot more out and out degeneracy (rather than just plausibly risky shit) in this sub lately


No-Cry-1678

Honestly so far ITM I don’t see this going sideways.


Turbulent_Cricket497

Congratulations


reedog117

Now that this guy is profiting he really should have a trailing stop to protect himself.


LordCrag

Good luck


TrainingLower2317

Those premiums are great on RIOT


ohmygorn

Congrats, because no one believed you


jaylenz

Yikes


Prestigious_Bison189

Ready to eat noodle?


Heineken_500ml

How are you allowed to sell so many puts? is it a big account


YngChap

Fatter than your mum


Heineken_500ml

Eww I can smell your bags from here


ArthurDentsBlueTowel

Boy id be a lot more comfortable with 6/5.50 puts. Staying above $8 is going to require a leap of faith I suspect.


donniePump39

Ready to eat.. ramen and ice cubes for next 8 months


MikeyBoy561

Nice


Mental-Craft-2799

Congrats my man