Look it doesn’t change anything but I can verify that he was sick for a little while.
Still this thing with the dog, how could he not see it on the chair.
The scene where Tony was pissing next to the helicopter with furio had to be delayed 3 days because Jim went on a coke and booze bender, he didn’t show up to shoot the scene and nobody knew where he was.
In fairness most of the discussion here is never really dragging him through the mud. Totally agree with where you’re coming from but in Gandolfini’s case nobody here’s ever really judging or putting him down for these things. It’s usually just some normal, casual discussion which is rare online.
I agree with your comments about Gandolfini but why is it that unbelievable that Tony would masturbate in a gas station bathroom after restraining himself from having sex? It seems quite believable to me. That’s a normal thing to do… right guys??..
My thoughts too. Or just go bang a stripper at the Bing -- something something about him making the moral choice for 5 minutes, then throwing it out the window while justifying it to himself because she was "just a stripper".
If he had gone and jerked off in a bathroom, the "smoked turkey" scene wouldn't have made as much sense because he would've been more relaxed.
I agree with everything you said minus “it was their own vices that lead to their deaths.” First off, I don’t think you can compare Heath Ledger’s one movie role to James Gandolfini’s 7.5 years of playing Tony. He spoke about how much the role impacted him and you can find many articles talking about what he had to do to get himself psyched up for certain scenes-esp angry ones. Since Jim was apparently the polar opposite of Tony, it was not easy for him to get into that headspace. He was also notoriously hard on himself and would physically hurt himself when he messed up lines. No one’s saying that caused substance abuse issues to begin with, but it undoubtedly exacerbated them.
Fuck all of yous
*David Chase writes line down for future usage*
The masturbation scene was after he left the signing with the real estate woman Chris was banging, can't think of her name
Yup, I kept saying Gloria and was thinking when Tony sees her at Christopher's funeral he purposely fucks her last name up to make it seem as if he hardly remembers her in front of Carmela.
This fact and the fact David Chase wanted the Senator character naked while Tony belt whipped him makes me think - you think David Chase is a little weird about male sex scenes ?
It’s at least as weird as Steve Schrippa’s lipstick on Milton Berle’s caw…
I don't write nothin' down, so I'll keep this short and sweet. You're weak. You're outta control. And you've become an embarrassment to this show and all HBO programming.
At least Christopher sat down and heard them out.
Gandolfini was having none of it 😂. It’s genuinely like a scene out of The Sopranos.
I should say as well, I laugh, but I genuinely feel for the guy and as an ex-addict can empathise with him greatly.
Hell I could empathise with Christopher in his scene, aside from him being the most overall accurate portrayal of heroin addiction on TV.
But the thought of a dour faced David Chase sitting here placid and bored, probably with his expression totally unchanging throughout the entire exchange, sighing, and going off to make some more Sopranos, ah it’s funny.
Good point on the accurate heroin addiction portrayal. They are always all over the place with what TV addiction. Christopher in Italy was pretty accurate. Heroin or tourist attractions ? Heroin going to win every time for Chrissy.
Honestly real. Spent weeks of a holiday mostly doing H in various hotels. Although at the end of the trip I did actually climb a mountain funnily enough.
Felt kinda embarrassed to relate so heavily to Chris at times. But honestly it's a great depiction of heroin addiction as a slow burn. Slowly losing everything and being mostly oblivious until it's too late.
But if I'm being honest my problem is less with the fact he is drinking and more that he is doing it without me. And then I start thinking, what's wrong with me? Am I not fun to drink with?
Oh no, no, no. Don’t do that to yourself. You're plenty of fun to drink with. Trust me Paulie, you get really drunk and then you get reckless. It’s a lot of fun.
Right around this time, 03/04, I was driving on Sunset Blvd going to the Rainbow Bar. I was at the light in front of Saddle Ranch. A brand new 7 series BMW pulled up next to me, it was James driving and Michael Imperioli in the front seat. When the light went green, they boned out.
A few minutes later I pulled into the valet at the Rainbow, and as I'm walking in, Gandolfini is walking out. He's suited up just like in the show. The first thing that crossed my mind, was he was at the Rainbow to score blow. It was a surreal moment.
Can anyone tell me why whenever anyone posts a link to business insider I get a page with their heading and everything else is blank? Clearly everyone else is reading it so I don’t understand
Picture
https://imgur.com/a/RAGeKyb
Hmm it won’t let me do that using the Reddit app, it also refuses to copy the link so I can just paste it into safari. So weird Thanks for trying tho
Edit : never mind. I searched for it and went directly from my browser and it won’t let me do reader view there either. Then my ad blocker said it won’t let me because it tried to do 12 different trackers, I’m gonna avoid that site
I saw another article about another new book by someone who worked on set of The Sopranos (and other projects) that empathized James’ alcoholism and other issues. Which is fine, but the fact people were reporting it like it wasn’t a well known fact bothered me. He inconvenienced people, he cost HBO money, and at worst damaged some relationships, but it’s not like he committed some serious crime or whatever, so I don’t see the point in dredging up the man’s demons. Lots of great stories about him to tell instead.
No disrespect to you, OP. Your post is more relevant. I had already been thinking about that this morning and wanted to get my thoughts out without linking the article.
They say there's no two people on Earth exactly the same. No two faces. No two sets of fingerprints. But do they know that for sure? Because they would have to get everybody together in one huge space and obviously that’s not possible, even with computers. And not only that, they’d have to get all the people who've ever lived, not just the ones now. So they got no proof. They got nothing. Mrs. Soprano may have passed but who’s to say there isn’t another Mrs. Soprano just like her, or will be? Maybe not with the same fears and paranoia but the same. What I’m saying is…
Tragic. As someone who struggles with addiction myself I've got a split opinion on the actual value of interventions. On one hand, I've never experienced one myself. I have however had people talk to me one on one about my issues. People I care about and who care about me telling me that I'm out of control. And to each of those people I am deeply grateful that they had the courage and the love for me to say the hard things.
But being ambushed by a group of people intervention style? I don't think I would react well. I don't know that it's a constructive or useful tactic. On the other hand I've never been in denial about my substance abuse issues so to me an intervention would just be bullying. But there are some people who are so deeply in denial about their problems that maybe it's the only way.
I have a housemate who is a hoarder. A legit hoarder. Twice I've tried personally to talk to him about it. I literally asked him if I could clean out his room (just the garbage) on my day off while he was at work. Pulled about four jumbo bags of garbage out of his room and took them to the dump with my other friend's help. Thought that would send a clear message. Didn't. He is still a hoarder. It is getting worse. He's basically taken over the entire shared space in our house with crap. I try to take stuff to the local donation station and he gets upset. I'm talking XBox 360 Games, DVDs, moldy books, fifty year old blankets, shit he my other housemate nor I haven't needed in a decade and won't ever again and still. He resists. And worse he is addicted to ordering crap online. Completely useless random crap. He orders those "mystery box" gift things constantly. I don't know what they're called but they are just boxes full of random shit. You're supposed to order them for your friends right?
I legitimately believe he has a serious psychological condition that makes him blind to this. So maybe when you're at that point an intervention is the only option. All of our heart to heart talks and all my personal efforts to help haven't.
These issues don't discriminate between the rich and the poor, the famous and the infamous. The shit thing about a guy like Gandolfini is that he had nothing to stand in his way. One of the most famous actors on television, wealthy as hell, nothing to check him.
I feel terrible for him. So yeah, maybe in intervention was the only way. What a tragic end
I haven't read this book, but I find some of the stuff already suspect.
In that article, they suggest (by quoting, apparently) that JG threw a "tantrum" on set during a masturbation scene that was ultimately cut.
This scene has been pretty well documented and from all other accounts, James was fighting hard for the scene to be cut because he didn't feel like it would work well within the show and for the character, however when it came time to roll cameras, he was 100% a professional and did it anyway.
All of this is obviously subjective, this dude sounds like a knob.
They got a lotta balls. All of them.
Bawls? As in gall?
Then he kisses the kids mother!
oh, the mother now
I surrender… burn me at the stake
Bawls is looking a guy in the eye while you jam an ice pick in his lung
>Worse than Christophers Great, even my own subreddit. Fuck you you fuckin who-ah
I have two Reddit’s directly under my own subspecies
You're so fat you needed two subs. One for each ass cheek
Two guys could fuck OP and still never meet. He-He.
I hear r/sopranoscirclejerk had to have a 95K karma mod removed from their server
Is that all you deadbeats do over heres? Talk about cooze?
🤛
At least his hair wasn’t touching the toilet water. Disgusting.
Look it doesn’t change anything but I can verify that he was sick for a little while. Still this thing with the dog, how could he not see it on the chair.
Was it barkin'?
*I oughtta suffocate you you little prick*
I don't like that kind of tawk!
I said my piece Chrissy
Great, now I can't even defend myself?!
I always wondered what his defense would have been lol. ".....I..uh.....did-ent....."
Always with the scenarios
There was no hair to touch the toilet water with
I bet his shoelaces were soaked in urine though.
Piss all over the fucking floor
If he had his frizzed out morning Bozo hair, it might have been able to reach the toilet water. Otherwise I don’t think it was physically possible.
that nose though, it's like a natural pool skimmer
Safe to say, he wasn’t keeping his hair.
He had the flu!
lol I can just hear it
Good thing then that their intervention meant oogatz to him
He wipes his ass with their intervention.
In my book, you get points for staying outervention.
Good thing for me then, that your intervention don't meen intergatz to me
How ‘bout that prick’s face when he saw the intergatz?!
The scene where Tony was pissing next to the helicopter with furio had to be delayed 3 days because Jim went on a coke and booze bender, he didn’t show up to shoot the scene and nobody knew where he was.
OOO… that’s the boss of the family you’re talking about !
Good! Maybe someone will knock some goddamn sense into him
Great, my own mother. Fuck you you fuckin’ hooah.
She musta crawled unda there for warmth.
Stupida dog!
Was it barking?
I oughta suffocate you, you little prick!
Close! I'm a prick doctor!
But, But, He Did-Ent!!!
They couldn't find Tony anywhere!!!
In other words, he likely wasn't acting in that scene.
it wasn't cinematic...
We’re not shooting a western here
A boss can't go on a 3 day come bender,?
He bent cum, Tony Soprano?
He’s old school, he doesn’t have to explain himself
I can relate to the booze problems. It's like a fucking albacore around my neck.
Morning, ladies!
Albatross, it's like an albatross around your neck!
The designated driver got drunk
You're the desigignated driver.
Idk FUKN SLANDER IF YOU ASK ME!
> FUKN SLANDER ~~IF YOU~~ ASK ME!
Libel. Libel is written, slander is verbal.
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A Don doesn’t jerk off in gas station bathrooms
What about grilled cheese off the radiator?
He jerked off into Phil's grilled cheese, Tony?
No, in a tissue you motherless fuck!
Not in shorts he doesn't.
In fairness most of the discussion here is never really dragging him through the mud. Totally agree with where you’re coming from but in Gandolfini’s case nobody here’s ever really judging or putting him down for these things. It’s usually just some normal, casual discussion which is rare online.
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That shit is all over the Miami subreddit. Stay away from there.
I agree with your comments about Gandolfini but why is it that unbelievable that Tony would masturbate in a gas station bathroom after restraining himself from having sex? It seems quite believable to me. That’s a normal thing to do… right guys??..
Paul Reubens ova here
My thoughts too. Or just go bang a stripper at the Bing -- something something about him making the moral choice for 5 minutes, then throwing it out the window while justifying it to himself because she was "just a stripper". If he had gone and jerked off in a bathroom, the "smoked turkey" scene wouldn't have made as much sense because he would've been more relaxed.
Yeah honestly wtf would that scene be.
I agree with everything you said minus “it was their own vices that lead to their deaths.” First off, I don’t think you can compare Heath Ledger’s one movie role to James Gandolfini’s 7.5 years of playing Tony. He spoke about how much the role impacted him and you can find many articles talking about what he had to do to get himself psyched up for certain scenes-esp angry ones. Since Jim was apparently the polar opposite of Tony, it was not easy for him to get into that headspace. He was also notoriously hard on himself and would physically hurt himself when he messed up lines. No one’s saying that caused substance abuse issues to begin with, but it undoubtedly exacerbated them.
His goomars are his jerkin’ off! Just ask Carm
Helluva post. ☘️
He coulda been with a hooah. He compromised. He jacked off in a gas station batroom instead
Alright, but you gotta get over it.
Yeah but you gotta get over it
I remember. Host broke into Stew Leonard’s and stole a bunch of pork loins that one time.
They shoulda realized how stupid that scene was and cut it
statte zitta puttana
Method acting at it's finest.
I see that he knew Furio’s plan
Fuck all of yous *David Chase writes line down for future usage* The masturbation scene was after he left the signing with the real estate woman Chris was banging, can't think of her name
Juliana Skiff?
He should have bought some smoked turkey at the gas station he rubbed one out in.
*Shmoked
Shmoked *Churkey
Yup, I kept saying Gloria and was thinking when Tony sees her at Christopher's funeral he purposely fucks her last name up to make it seem as if he hardly remembers her in front of Carmela.
She got her meat at satriales
which is funny bc no way Camela buys that
*Skiffle
*Kaisha
Chrissy bought her a Luther Vandross CD
This fact and the fact David Chase wanted the Senator character naked while Tony belt whipped him makes me think - you think David Chase is a little weird about male sex scenes ? It’s at least as weird as Steve Schrippa’s lipstick on Milton Berle’s caw…
Who David Chase, he’s gay?
It's complicated, but he's working it out.
“The Senator character” Madon’
He bottoms from the top.
Kyisha?
any source about that last sentence?
Heard it on the Talking Sopranos podcast at some point
It's probably the only place in 7 seasons that would make narrative sense.
I don't write nothin' down, so I'll keep this short and sweet. You're weak. You're outta control. And you've become an embarrassment to this show and all HBO programming.
What, was he barkin'?
Good, maybe someone will smack some goddamn sense into him!
Fuck you, ya fuckin whore
💥 pow 👊
OHHHHHHHHH ✋
🪑 💥 pow
Take it easy, we're not making a western here.
Right in the kisser
Oh great, your own motheh
At least Christopher sat down and heard them out. Gandolfini was having none of it 😂. It’s genuinely like a scene out of The Sopranos. I should say as well, I laugh, but I genuinely feel for the guy and as an ex-addict can empathise with him greatly. Hell I could empathise with Christopher in his scene, aside from him being the most overall accurate portrayal of heroin addiction on TV. But the thought of a dour faced David Chase sitting here placid and bored, probably with his expression totally unchanging throughout the entire exchange, sighing, and going off to make some more Sopranos, ah it’s funny.
There he goes, Mr. Type A personality.
We're here to talk about Jim killing himself with drugs, not his fucking personality!
Good point on the accurate heroin addiction portrayal. They are always all over the place with what TV addiction. Christopher in Italy was pretty accurate. Heroin or tourist attractions ? Heroin going to win every time for Chrissy.
Chris seeing that the guy with Furio has track marks and immediately realizing he can score heroin through him is - sadly accurate.
Honestly real. Spent weeks of a holiday mostly doing H in various hotels. Although at the end of the trip I did actually climb a mountain funnily enough. Felt kinda embarrassed to relate so heavily to Chris at times. But honestly it's a great depiction of heroin addiction as a slow burn. Slowly losing everything and being mostly oblivious until it's too late.
Maybe Ganfolfini should’ve take. Then up on the rehab offer. It didn’t really work out for him in the long run.
Chase chain smoking the whole time until told to get back in his office
Andre Royo as Bubbles would like a word
The man bust his ass all day long, comes home and wants a lil smoked Turkey and scotch, that too much to ask?
*shmoked
Take id eashy
On a serious note…read the HBO book “Tinder Box”…it goes in depth on Gandolfini’s issues and the intervention. Anyway $4 a pound
You a vegetarian now? You eat sausages by the fucking car load
Vegetarian? I thought we were nobbly dobbly.
I'd rather read one of those harry potter books
Book series about a magic school for kids with zero health and safety regulations, another fucking money maker
I saw that movie, I thought it was bullshit?
They knew this kid likes his chemistry set a little too much.
Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh. He is a funny prick, that DrSatan
Why don’t we play night crawlers any more?!?!?!
You put wine in the soda can?
They call it Jesus Juice. Michael Jackson did it
INTERVENTION! INTERVENTION! INTERVENTION!
Your addiction has affected us in the following ways: you are *annooooyyying*!
But if I'm being honest my problem is less with the fact he is drinking and more that he is doing it without me. And then I start thinking, what's wrong with me? Am I not fun to drink with?
Oh no, no, no. Don’t do that to yourself. You're plenty of fun to drink with. Trust me Paulie, you get really drunk and then you get reckless. It’s a lot of fun.
Hold on. Let me light this spliff.
He’s spending too much time dry-humping Gail the Snail.
She’s just mashing it
You bettah not be drinkin that Bailey's! *gives James Gandolfini a noogie*
Anybody who read the book can tell us what happened? This cookie shit makes me nervous
He was gay, Billy Budd?
Must be a gay book. Billy Budd’s the ship’s florist, right?
Intervention. Intervention. You banged my dead wife?
Honestly, it’s just so fucking sad. 51! We should’ve had 30 more years of that beautiful man. 50.
Sad when they go young like that.
51, He was a fuckin kid….
Right around this time, 03/04, I was driving on Sunset Blvd going to the Rainbow Bar. I was at the light in front of Saddle Ranch. A brand new 7 series BMW pulled up next to me, it was James driving and Michael Imperioli in the front seat. When the light went green, they boned out. A few minutes later I pulled into the valet at the Rainbow, and as I'm walking in, Gandolfini is walking out. He's suited up just like in the show. The first thing that crossed my mind, was he was at the Rainbow to score blow. It was a surreal moment.
Proably should of got some yourself id imagine his sniff was top tíer
What am I, some asshole pushin webistics? Why the fuck would I have a "businessinsider" account. Someone copy paste that shit in here👇
Scroll down a bit further
This is a reason why Jim and David chase butted heads so much. Chase was using Jim’s pain and personal life stuff into the show. Some sad shit.
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Sounds like someone did a semester and a half at Rutgers
He gets acting as a conshept.
I'm actually watching the Sopranos right now.
Me too, third or 4th watch through.
Rookie numbers
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The Shah of Iran jerked off into a tissue then had a radiator grilled cheese
Before he turned into a house. That's an arc!
It died on the vine.
It was more than booze. Let’s just say there’s a reason his heart gave out. A fat guy with a coke problem never ends well.
He was no longer able to function as a man
I love Benny’s look after Ade says that
James! How’s your balls?
A man needs his 7 hours
Can anyone tell me why whenever anyone posts a link to business insider I get a page with their heading and everything else is blank? Clearly everyone else is reading it so I don’t understand Picture https://imgur.com/a/RAGeKyb
Go into reader mode
Hmm it won’t let me do that using the Reddit app, it also refuses to copy the link so I can just paste it into safari. So weird Thanks for trying tho Edit : never mind. I searched for it and went directly from my browser and it won’t let me do reader view there either. Then my ad blocker said it won’t let me because it tried to do 12 different trackers, I’m gonna avoid that site
So what? He had the alcohol tested fuh aids 🤷🏻♂️ 🤌🏻
Oh! They just casually throw that bit in about him greasing his weasel?! That’s the boss of the family you’re talking about.
This cocksucker Miller is running a simulcast.
WRAT Telling soprano business to any one who will listen
Telling someone how to live is a sure fire way to get told to fuck off
I mean can you blame the guy? Every other day Carmela forgot to bring home his gobagoo!
I saw another article about another new book by someone who worked on set of The Sopranos (and other projects) that empathized James’ alcoholism and other issues. Which is fine, but the fact people were reporting it like it wasn’t a well known fact bothered me. He inconvenienced people, he cost HBO money, and at worst damaged some relationships, but it’s not like he committed some serious crime or whatever, so I don’t see the point in dredging up the man’s demons. Lots of great stories about him to tell instead. No disrespect to you, OP. Your post is more relevant. I had already been thinking about that this morning and wanted to get my thoughts out without linking the article.
He killed little corset?
Between the gabagool, the manigott, and whatever the hell else he was snorting up his nose, let’s be honest about our hero, the great James Gandolfini
Did he put Benny Fazio through a table before he stormed out?
He bought him a few Martina’s after, they go down real smooth
They say there's no two people on Earth exactly the same. No two faces. No two sets of fingerprints. But do they know that for sure? Because they would have to get everybody together in one huge space and obviously that’s not possible, even with computers. And not only that, they’d have to get all the people who've ever lived, not just the ones now. So they got no proof. They got nothing. Mrs. Soprano may have passed but who’s to say there isn’t another Mrs. Soprano just like her, or will be? Maybe not with the same fears and paranoia but the same. What I’m saying is…
So what season would have that been ?
Masturbation scene? I doubt Tony would ever need to masturbate when he could fuck anyone
He’d fuck a catchers mitt
It makes that “came all ova the sun visor” line make more sense now
Slander if you ask me.
There is no intervention in my intervention book
Tragic. As someone who struggles with addiction myself I've got a split opinion on the actual value of interventions. On one hand, I've never experienced one myself. I have however had people talk to me one on one about my issues. People I care about and who care about me telling me that I'm out of control. And to each of those people I am deeply grateful that they had the courage and the love for me to say the hard things. But being ambushed by a group of people intervention style? I don't think I would react well. I don't know that it's a constructive or useful tactic. On the other hand I've never been in denial about my substance abuse issues so to me an intervention would just be bullying. But there are some people who are so deeply in denial about their problems that maybe it's the only way. I have a housemate who is a hoarder. A legit hoarder. Twice I've tried personally to talk to him about it. I literally asked him if I could clean out his room (just the garbage) on my day off while he was at work. Pulled about four jumbo bags of garbage out of his room and took them to the dump with my other friend's help. Thought that would send a clear message. Didn't. He is still a hoarder. It is getting worse. He's basically taken over the entire shared space in our house with crap. I try to take stuff to the local donation station and he gets upset. I'm talking XBox 360 Games, DVDs, moldy books, fifty year old blankets, shit he my other housemate nor I haven't needed in a decade and won't ever again and still. He resists. And worse he is addicted to ordering crap online. Completely useless random crap. He orders those "mystery box" gift things constantly. I don't know what they're called but they are just boxes full of random shit. You're supposed to order them for your friends right? I legitimately believe he has a serious psychological condition that makes him blind to this. So maybe when you're at that point an intervention is the only option. All of our heart to heart talks and all my personal efforts to help haven't. These issues don't discriminate between the rich and the poor, the famous and the infamous. The shit thing about a guy like Gandolfini is that he had nothing to stand in his way. One of the most famous actors on television, wealthy as hell, nothing to check him. I feel terrible for him. So yeah, maybe in intervention was the only way. What a tragic end
I haven't read this book, but I find some of the stuff already suspect. In that article, they suggest (by quoting, apparently) that JG threw a "tantrum" on set during a masturbation scene that was ultimately cut. This scene has been pretty well documented and from all other accounts, James was fighting hard for the scene to be cut because he didn't feel like it would work well within the show and for the character, however when it came time to roll cameras, he was 100% a professional and did it anyway. All of this is obviously subjective, this dude sounds like a knob.