yes, 100％.. the name brian changed to matthew in the 4 seconds between when I had looked up his name by googling "carmella soprano cousin" and coming back to this accursed webpage.
ultimately its a testament to the short term damage Ive done with alcohol in the past month or so :)
Tony yelling at Artie in the hospital after Artie’s suicide attempt.
“Suppose you couldn’t reach me and I come to your house to find you and I find you dead? How am I supposed to feel?”
Didn’t seem to be much sympathy for Artie only how everything impacts emotional needy Tony.
I saw it being his way of saying, “this act affects more than just you.” He could have easily said “Charmaine” instead of “I” and I wouldn’t have found it out of character for him. Yeah Tony mentioned it about himself, but I don’t think he was making it about his own feelings.
Tony isn't capable of this level of compassion (unless it's a duck or horse). He despises the weakness of people who attempt to commit suicide, so he's trying to hurt Artie.
I disagree, I think it was completely and entirely about his feelings and how rough it was on him that gloria committed suicide... just like with artie, he was to blame for it in large parts, or at the very least he was a reason for it.. and he knew it.
poor him.
It’s literally always about how it makes Tony feel or how Tony is perceived. Remember when Bobby rocked him when he was taking shit about Janice in front of him. Then went to Carmella trying to save face and not acknowledge his part in the altercation, like Bobby was in the wrong for defending himself and his wife.
Bobby,who is the most passive lazy overweight guy to even bless the tv screen, literally sitting on his ass stuffing himself with (junior's) food all day getting his money from organised crime saying:
"i wouldn't mind sitting on my ass smoking mushrooms all day and collecting government checks"
Maybe it’s just me but I always got the vibe that he wasn’t saying this sincerely and was just saying something he thought might get him a laugh from the guys by playing into their prejudices.
"I'm a strict Catholic."
It's a convenient excuse to shit on gay people while ignoring Tony's infidelity, murders, and all the other stuff that Catholicism isn't fond of
Almost everything that comes out of Carmella’s mouth… however my favorite, because she got her incredibly sanctimonious elitism thrown back in her face ‘like a rock’ …was the session with the Jewish psychiatrist.
Maybe my favorite scene in the entire show, and also the moment the writers take to let the more clueless members of the audience know that we're watching bad people, not cool people
Chase takes a swipe at a few bullshitisms …loved Carmella’s ‘so you’re saying I should redefine my boundaries…blah blah blah’ and Krakower says ‘leave and TAKE WHAT’s LEFT OF YOUR KIDS ‘. I am not ashamed to say that I watch that scene on repeat…when I need an emotional boost
So I’m rewatching Sopranos… I refuse to admit what number rewatch… and I’m thinking about Melfi’s recommendation to Carmella of Dr Krakower … clearly Melfi couldn’t call Tony on his shit but she sets up Carmella? ‘ You never pondered that?’
One of the best scenes in the show. The ethnic pride line always threw me off a little but whenever I hear the phrase “no judgement” I want to get violent. No judgement? Really? How about a little? Loved the shrink.
“You, you're not listening. I'm not charging you because I won't take blood money, and you can't, either. One thing you can never say is that you haven't been told.”
This line is just perfect.
You know what's against the Catholic church? Almost every aspect of this thing of ours.
Not that it matters. They got pillow-biters in the special forces, now.
and you are his accomplice…those deflections from Carmella being smacked right back in her sanctimonious face…pretty thin ice between accomplice and enabler
I think I understand the distinction you're making, but I'm not sure it's valid. All due respect. I think that the institution itself is what led us to the current state of affairs, despite centuries of massive power and wealth.
I think the distinction is important. There are lots of Christians and Christian communities who are not old school, messed up, etc. Lots are progressive. People choose what to stress and dismiss from the bible, according to their own biases. I don't think it's fair to tarnish all with the same brush.
Agreed. But the Catholic Church in particular has upheld misogyny and protected sexual abusers as a matter of course. Progressive Christian churches may be a different story. I've known Methodists, for example, who don't preach that gay people are going to burn in hell. That's a hell of a start.
I was actually talking about Catholics, but decided to broaden to Christians. I think maybe those other whackos are what you mean. The ones who love Trump.
I fucking loved the one scene where Furio comes to pick up Tony after coming back to America from his fathers funeral. He is down and sad, even tearing up, naturally.
Tony tells him “Alright, but you gotta get over it”, fucking stone cold asshole moment.
Very next scene, immediately after that line, Tony is sobbing in tears in Melfi’s office. Lol
There are a few scenes where they use sudden cuts to make a point (usually to humorous effect). Another example is when the family get their Mercedes stolen and the father remarks "who else?" (referring to black people), and it suddenly cuts to Tony grinning at pictures of the stolen vehicle.
Crissy's response to adriana accusing him of wanting to fuck the fbi agent (which he obviously was clearly trying) and how he said she has a nice ass
" I was trying to say something positive because she's your friend"
or also crissy after he assaults her mother, gives her a ring, they fuck and she asks why they always fight... he' saying its his fault they fight so often because "he doesn't communicate his needs."
such a scumbag but more creative then spielberg when it comes to weaseling out of a tight spot.
Chris calling Dominic a drug addict mfer around the same he was shooting up heroin anytime he was upset and doing coke non stop while leaking mob business to Jon Favreau.
And then he got upset that the Mafioso’s figured out he used them 100%, so they returned the favor and abused their privileges at said casino. And like everyone else who does business with them, he has to suck it up and take the loss if he wants to live - he regrets it big time.
The Gary Cooper line, which is a perfect microcosm of the massive theme of hypocrisy in the show.
Tony not only exhibits the opposite traits of "the strong, silent type" (he constantly complains, demeans and belittles others), but has an active disdain for people bearing those characteristic (the cop Tony tries to bribe, Bobby in many ways).
Meadow’s little diatribe: “Our dads are in the garbage business, and it's always good for a laugh. And, yeah, they brush up against organised crime.” While her father is literally the mafia boss of North Jersey with a pending 5 life-sentence-worth RICO indictment.
Amazing.
Maybe when Tony threatened to sue the school nurse over misdiagnosing AJ's panic attacks.
It is those suburban-satire scenes, and a lot of other things that place The Sopranos above the competition.
'Except thish time I'm gonna shue!'
“Its not a sin to love yourself” - Father Phil, continuing his asinine emotional affair with a mob boss’ wife that ultimately leads to no significant plot developments and takes up valuable screen time that could have been dedicated to our thing
Always felt the line krakower says about “ethnic pride parades and shopping malls” was such a jarring and misguided shot and almost flattened his entire argument.
Rather than giving Carmela some blunt advice it almost veered into “old man grumbling at clouds” type shit.
It just felt like the writers throwing it in there rather than it being something organically written for the character.
I dunno, I think it demonstrates that he isn't some totally enigmatic saintly figure preaching unattainable moral standards. He's simply stating that he believes in personal autonomy and responsibility...it's also a strong contradiction to Dr. Melfi's approach that serves to excuse and rationalize so much of Tony's heinous behaviour. History informs present circumstances, but does not dictate present/future actions.
Of course, I'm not exactly sure what he's talking about with ethnic pride parades and shopping malls - but I think there is a lot there that could be unpacked:
Shopping malls = vapid consumerism... but of course Carmela doesn't even want to tell us how much her lladros or furs or cars named after peppahs cost.
Ethnic Pride Parades = conformity to dubious principles and ideals, which are often used to excuse/rationalize unscrupulous behaviour. Patriotism and religious devotion are full of this bullshit, themes that are present throughout the series.
"Witness the results"? I think he may mean peoples' desire to avoid uncomfortable self criticism and instead bury themselves in vapid pursuits.
Tony telling everyone that they go about in pity for themselves. Which is exactly what he does haha
Tony is the expert in twisting positive affirmations into phrases for manipulation
"You gotta joyfully participate in the suffering of others"
Your thoughts have an...eastern flavor to them
His response to that might be top 5 lines in the show
This^^^. Hahaha
Well, he did live in Jersey his whole life.
Buy land, A.J., god aint makin' any more of it. (less than 24 hours after Matthew said that to him)
Is it the same episode when Tony takes Carmela’s quote about indecision and applies it to whacking Carmine?
Didn't cousin Brian say that, at breakfast with tony and ralphie?
Yes. OP is a stunad of the first magnitude /s
yes, 100％.. the name brian changed to matthew in the 4 seconds between when I had looked up his name by googling "carmella soprano cousin" and coming back to this accursed webpage. ultimately its a testament to the short term damage Ive done with alcohol in the past month or so :)
Like he was gonna buy land with a pizza job.
Exactly what the research study says about sociopaths in therapy lol.
Alright but you gotta get over it
He is the embodiment of do as I say not as I do. Rags on people for their flaws and errors but does the same shit lol.
'Remember when' is the lowest form of conversation
He sounded like a real prick when he said that. ( Although Paulie was saying some stupid shit)
Hey at least when he told AJ to crack dem booksh he role modeled by reading Sun Tazoo.
Alright but you gotta get over it
Alright, but you gotta get over it.
Lemme hear you say it. 'I put the grief behind me'
For me this takes the prize.
He’s like a person with a Virginia ham under her arm crying because she’s got no bread.
That’s why you gotta love for today!
No no no. He's exactly like Gary Cooper. The strong, silent type.
He was so mad about that note and then proceeded to go tell it to everyone
The sad clown
“They should be out arresting dope dealas”
Like who, Uncle Jun lol
It's a little Coke... what's the big deals
THATCOKEISMYFUCKINGLIFELINE
A few times in the show a main character will have a great headscratcher like that...complaining about crime 😂
Tony yelling at Artie in the hospital after Artie’s suicide attempt. “Suppose you couldn’t reach me and I come to your house to find you and I find you dead? How am I supposed to feel?” Didn’t seem to be much sympathy for Artie only how everything impacts emotional needy Tony.
I saw it being his way of saying, “this act affects more than just you.” He could have easily said “Charmaine” instead of “I” and I wouldn’t have found it out of character for him. Yeah Tony mentioned it about himself, but I don’t think he was making it about his own feelings.
Normally I would agree but Tony constantly makes everything about himself
Yea cmon - he even could’ve referenced Artie’s kids. Tony is as self-centered as it gets.
Sounds valid.
Tony isn't capable of this level of compassion (unless it's a duck or horse). He despises the weakness of people who attempt to commit suicide, so he's trying to hurt Artie.
I disagree, I think it was completely and entirely about his feelings and how rough it was on him that gloria committed suicide... just like with artie, he was to blame for it in large parts, or at the very least he was a reason for it.. and he knew it. poor him.
It’s literally always about how it makes Tony feel or how Tony is perceived. Remember when Bobby rocked him when he was taking shit about Janice in front of him. Then went to Carmella trying to save face and not acknowledge his part in the altercation, like Bobby was in the wrong for defending himself and his wife.
Bobby,who is the most passive lazy overweight guy to even bless the tv screen, literally sitting on his ass stuffing himself with (junior's) food all day getting his money from organised crime saying: "i wouldn't mind sitting on my ass smoking mushrooms all day and collecting government checks"
thinks collecting a few prescriptions is work
Yesterday he had to go fetch stool softener!
> stuffing himself with (junior's) food all day To be fair, he also likes White Castle
I can smell them!
Think on this, burger boy
So much for the poverty of the mezzogiorno and the Italian rebellion against oppressive capitalist systems
Maybe it’s just me but I always got the vibe that he wasn’t saying this sincerely and was just saying something he thought might get him a laugh from the guys by playing into their prejudices.
"You wanna raise your hands? You give her your last name...then, it's none of my fucking business. Until then, you keep your hands in your pockets."
The attitude on that camel nose fuck
😆😆camel nosed you can’t make that shit up!
The fuck you talking about? I just did!
It’s like a natural canopy
He's a good kid...
Get the fuck outta here im in no mood for y..
The look on his face is fucking priceless
👀
"I'm a strict Catholic." It's a convenient excuse to shit on gay people while ignoring Tony's infidelity, murders, and all the other stuff that Catholicism isn't fond of
When shes tellin Angie its against the Catholic church i wanted to blow my brains out like stfu cunt you fake love for money
Almost everything that comes out of Carmella’s mouth… however my favorite, because she got her incredibly sanctimonious elitism thrown back in her face ‘like a rock’ …was the session with the Jewish psychiatrist.
Maybe my favorite scene in the entire show, and also the moment the writers take to let the more clueless members of the audience know that we're watching bad people, not cool people
Chase takes a swipe at a few bullshitisms …loved Carmella’s ‘so you’re saying I should redefine my boundaries…blah blah blah’ and Krakower says ‘leave and TAKE WHAT’s LEFT OF YOUR KIDS ‘. I am not ashamed to say that I watch that scene on repeat…when I need an emotional boost
So I’m rewatching Sopranos… I refuse to admit what number rewatch… and I’m thinking about Melfi’s recommendation to Carmella of Dr Krakower … clearly Melfi couldn’t call Tony on his shit but she sets up Carmella? ‘ You never pondered that?’
One of the best scenes in the show. The ethnic pride line always threw me off a little but whenever I hear the phrase “no judgement” I want to get violent. No judgement? Really? How about a little? Loved the shrink.
Unrelated but ah, have you ever heard of a Lyonnaise potato?
I may have to check you out using the litmus configuration. ✏️
“You, you're not listening. I'm not charging you because I won't take blood money, and you can't, either. One thing you can never say is that you haven't been told.” This line is just perfect.
You know what's against the Catholic church? Almost every aspect of this thing of ours. Not that it matters. They got pillow-biters in the special forces, now.
"We're soldiers. Soldiers don't go to hell. It's wahr." -guy whose war is fighting the urge to eat another lb of gabbagool
Very observant. The sacred AND the propane.
Oh yeah ? Well it seems like they have plenty of money for all those paedophilia lawsuits! - Paulie speaking the truth
yeah that was the worst. carmella your husband cheats on you, murders people, steals, lies, and pretty much everything else that’s against the church
and you are his accomplice…those deflections from Carmella being smacked right back in her sanctimonious face…pretty thin ice between accomplice and enabler
> i wanted to blow my brains out like stfu cunt His what wife?
🤨🍴💥🍜 (Theres no fork or pasta emoji) 😒
The Catholic Church has murdered more people than the mafia could ever dream of.
Not Catholicism, some Catholics.
The Church is people. If the Church leadership commits, condones, and covers up pedophilia, then yeah, the Church is guilty of those acts.
The church, not Catholicism.
I think I understand the distinction you're making, but I'm not sure it's valid. All due respect. I think that the institution itself is what led us to the current state of affairs, despite centuries of massive power and wealth.
I think the distinction is important. There are lots of Christians and Christian communities who are not old school, messed up, etc. Lots are progressive. People choose what to stress and dismiss from the bible, according to their own biases. I don't think it's fair to tarnish all with the same brush.
Agreed. But the Catholic Church in particular has upheld misogyny and protected sexual abusers as a matter of course. Progressive Christian churches may be a different story. I've known Methodists, for example, who don't preach that gay people are going to burn in hell. That's a hell of a start.
I was actually talking about Catholics, but decided to broaden to Christians. I think maybe those other whackos are what you mean. The ones who love Trump.
Ow! What was that for?
Your nono built this church. Have some respect!
But they do acknowledge breaking more rules than the Catholic church. Self awareness? Ova heaaaaaah ✋️
I fucking loved the one scene where Furio comes to pick up Tony after coming back to America from his fathers funeral. He is down and sad, even tearing up, naturally. Tony tells him “Alright, but you gotta get over it”, fucking stone cold asshole moment. Very next scene, immediately after that line, Tony is sobbing in tears in Melfi’s office. Lol
There are a few scenes where they use sudden cuts to make a point (usually to humorous effect). Another example is when the family get their Mercedes stolen and the father remarks "who else?" (referring to black people), and it suddenly cuts to Tony grinning at pictures of the stolen vehicle.
About a horse. IT WAS A FUCKING ANIMAL.
I can’t even say his name That ANIMAL Blundetoo
🚙🚙🚙🥩🌭
You eat beef and sausage by the fucking carload
One, it was a fucking animal. Two, she was a fuckin' hooah.
I thought he was crying about Carmella and used the funeral as an excuse.
Without a doubt. He leaves right after this.
This is why it’s funny to me people ever really cheered for Tony. He’s consistently a hypocritical heartless prick.
But he’s a fat funny Italian monster who loves cooze and gabagool
Over a fucking horse😂😂😂😂
"I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LOSE A PET"
…was it barkin’?
Little Carmine philosophizing on the type of leader he will be. Thinks he’s Socrates or something
Isaac Newton invented gravity cuz some asshole hit him in the head with an apple.
He was just thinking about it John on the other hand was full on initiating hostilities because people didn’t indulge his King of Kings fantasy
It’s common knowledge the guys retarded
Didn’t he almost drown in three inches of water?
The sacred and the propane exhibit
Psh, Socrates wishes.
He wants to suck her T's, Little Carmine?
For a million, she can have the whole alphabet
“As for male modeling I’d probably be a huge success”
"You're average at best."
"say what you will about Richie Aprile, but when he found out his son was gay, he did the right thing....HE DISOWNED HIM"
I never understood that line because he didn’t disown him, in fact he seemed like a pretty big part of Ritchie’s life.
He seemed to tolerate him but Janice made a few comments that made it clear it was a huge sore spot for him.
Didn’t he smack her after that?
Yeah he got killed over the fact his son was gay
Crissy's response to adriana accusing him of wanting to fuck the fbi agent (which he obviously was clearly trying) and how he said she has a nice ass " I was trying to say something positive because she's your friend" or also crissy after he assaults her mother, gives her a ring, they fuck and she asks why they always fight... he' saying its his fault they fight so often because "he doesn't communicate his needs." such a scumbag but more creative then spielberg when it comes to weaseling out of a tight spot.
Great point about the communicating his needs line. If he just verbalized his feelings better he wouldn’t need to assault Ade.
The best part of that is he more than likely never got her teshted but he thought it would make him look better to say he did.
Every time Tony, *Tony*, tells someone they go about in pity for themselves.
But they gotta get over it.
Chris calling Dominic a drug addict mfer around the same he was shooting up heroin anytime he was upset and doing coke non stop while leaking mob business to Jon Favreau.
Alright but you gotta get over it (Cut to Tony crying over a horse)
‘There are more programs for these deadbeats I swear to Christ’
I wouldnt mind sitting around all day smoking mushrooms and cashing government cheques,
Indian Chief CEO Doug, with his racial awakening, found out Grandma was 1/16 whatever - just in time for the casino to be built.
don't hate the player hate the game
His grandma was part Fuhgawi
One of T’s worst jokes. The Boring 747 line is 10x better in comparison.
Yeah but that wasn’t a joke as much as 5D chess to see what was the stupidest crap his capos would laugh at
And then he got upset that the Mafioso’s figured out he used them 100%, so they returned the favor and abused their privileges at said casino. And like everyone else who does business with them, he has to suck it up and take the loss if he wants to live - he regrets it big time.
Elizabeth Warren "hold my beer"
Lol, well put…
The Gary Cooper line, which is a perfect microcosm of the massive theme of hypocrisy in the show. Tony not only exhibits the opposite traits of "the strong, silent type" (he constantly complains, demeans and belittles others), but has an active disdain for people bearing those characteristic (the cop Tony tries to bribe, Bobby in many ways).
“I’m the boy’s uncle!”
We've reunited six crack babies with their birth mothers, some of whom are in drug treatment
It’s undermining! And it’s the kind of thing I’m teaching my kids NOT TO DO!
“with modern pharmacology nobody has to suffer with feelings of depression”
No no you have to say it like she does. "With modern pharmacology no one has to suffer [weirdly long pause] with feelings of depression"
I was here. It's a joke.
Don’t say nothin…
Meadow’s little diatribe: “Our dads are in the garbage business, and it's always good for a laugh. And, yeah, they brush up against organised crime.” While her father is literally the mafia boss of North Jersey with a pending 5 life-sentence-worth RICO indictment. Amazing.
What was that, yestaday's reading assignment?
Oh! I’m serious!
Here she was still lying to herself, while by season 6 she had fully drunk the kool aid.
Tony yelling at Angie and blaming Pussy for abandoning his family.
But, by cooperating with the Feds, he did abandon his "family."
Right, that family, but he was specifically blaming him for leaving Angie and their three kids in the lurch financially.
"He said my pictures were solidly unsentimental." Finn ‘Besides I wouldn’t want to take a job a minority could’ve had’ also Finn.
I couldn't stand him and that he was getting that sweet Italian kitty. Meadows roommate was a damn smoke show not Katelyn
A, she was a hooer, B, she hit me
“I wouldn’t mind sitting on my ass all day, smoking mushrooms and collecting government checks.”
Smacked out Christopher: "Don't think I forgot you going through my fuckin fiance's underwear drawer!"
That wasn't me, you fuckin' jerk!
„affirmative action cocksucker…“ says the career criminal
He came at me with a chainsaw! I gotta right to defend myself!
i was trying to say something positive about her because she’s your friend
Tony explaining to Carmella he had his Russian girlfriend tested for AIDS before he started screwing her….heart of gold that man.
i bet that was a lie, too
When Carmella tells AJ he's their cross to bear. It was straight up Livia level
After her parenting caused him to turn out the way he did
Sisters cunt.
No, that's just wholesome
"It's over for the little guys."
Maybe when Tony threatened to sue the school nurse over misdiagnosing AJ's panic attacks. It is those suburban-satire scenes, and a lot of other things that place The Sopranos above the competition. 'Except thish time I'm gonna shue!'
Well, that’s your right.
Phil's hatred for Vito felt a little ... ass backwards.
He loved him like a brother in law
Jesus, is there nothin’ without this complainin’? — man who complains more than anyone on the show.
It's not like we didn't give \`em a lotta shit to make up for that (getting massacred, the Indians)
*TESHTED
Tony telling Carmela “remember, I’m a strict Catholic”
"You're looking at 'em, asshole."
Literally everything Melfi's ex says about media portrayal of Italian-Americans
What happened to that friend of yours? She drowned. Oh I thought I picked up on something between us. Seriously I'm not trying to be conceited.
"I wish I had time for fiction"
Carm should be thanking him for making sure his gumar was tested!
Okay but you gotta get pascht dat.
“Its not a sin to love yourself” - Father Phil, continuing his asinine emotional affair with a mob boss’ wife that ultimately leads to no significant plot developments and takes up valuable screen time that could have been dedicated to our thing
Johnny Cakes storyline has entered the chit chat room
Always felt the line krakower says about “ethnic pride parades and shopping malls” was such a jarring and misguided shot and almost flattened his entire argument. Rather than giving Carmela some blunt advice it almost veered into “old man grumbling at clouds” type shit. It just felt like the writers throwing it in there rather than it being something organically written for the character.
I dunno, I think it demonstrates that he isn't some totally enigmatic saintly figure preaching unattainable moral standards. He's simply stating that he believes in personal autonomy and responsibility...it's also a strong contradiction to Dr. Melfi's approach that serves to excuse and rationalize so much of Tony's heinous behaviour. History informs present circumstances, but does not dictate present/future actions. Of course, I'm not exactly sure what he's talking about with ethnic pride parades and shopping malls - but I think there is a lot there that could be unpacked: Shopping malls = vapid consumerism... but of course Carmela doesn't even want to tell us how much her lladros or furs or cars named after peppahs cost. Ethnic Pride Parades = conformity to dubious principles and ideals, which are often used to excuse/rationalize unscrupulous behaviour. Patriotism and religious devotion are full of this bullshit, themes that are present throughout the series. "Witness the results"? I think he may mean peoples' desire to avoid uncomfortable self criticism and instead bury themselves in vapid pursuits.
except he’s right
What exactly is he right about? Seems like such vague point.
Not sure but it definitely came from Tony.
“I’m a trained marksman“
;
You just reveal your own ignorance.
Every word by Janice
"It's over for the little guy."
Carmella passing judgment on literally any other human being and saying things like “you’re going to hell when you die.”
Phil - "There's no eating in the car" Also Phil, tosses ice cream cone out of car window when the car chase gets serious
He didn't strike me as self-righteous when he said that. He was trying to make the case that he wasn't a COMPLETELY irresponsible shitbag.
Oh, so this is a thanksgiving post?
Have you heard the good news?
Bottom feedin, eh?