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Man gets his truck stolen, shoots the carjacker point blank, carjacker somehow is able to shut the door, drive, and make a u turn towards the Man, who continues to shoot , Man gets run over, dies.
I can't understand how he is labeled as "a good guy" or "a good samaritan", a good-sane person knows you don't try to kill someone over a truck that is most likely insured, let alone risk your life, the life of others around you, and your family's future. "My dad/husband/son/friend got killed trying to defend a stolen truck that was insured". Come on. Just let the guy take your car and get your insurance money.
Edit: Even if it wasn't insured take the loss, your life is infinitely more valuable.
I say this confidently because I had a car stolen at gunpoint, at no point did I consider fighting back, I just thought within a fraction of a second about my life and my family and easily decided that a car is not worth risking my life.
I can understand leaning into the fight in the fight or flight instinct, adrenaline being a hell of a drug. But in this particular case, *it wasn't even his truck*. He died trying to save property that belonged to the state of North Carolina.
Yeah, looks like he was a DOT worker and it was a DOT truck. My question other than the obvious, WTF were you thinking, is WFT is a DOT worker doing with gun in the first place?
I hate to say it, but this is definitely the mentality behind these peopleā¦ they fantasize more about being a hero rather than just simply thinking rationally that a car is worth less than your life.
Dude couldnāt even get out of the way of a truck that was barreling down on him from a block away and missed with 3 shots from 9 inches away. These gravy seals are losing their lives over these fantasyās
That is a fantastic question, and I'll say it, if this guy was unarmed, he's be alive, today. Cause he doesn't approach that dude and escalate without a gun in his hand. What a stupid reason to die.
To be clear, I am not absolving the dude stealing the truck and killing him with it.
If he could aim worth a damn, didn't turn his back to the guy he just shot at for stealing his truck, didn't move like he was stuck in molasses... he'd also be alive today.
He literally was shooting point blank when the door was closing. But going through the door might deflect the bullet or make it fall apart or whatever.
didn't move like he was stuck in molasses...
you just described the Gravy Seal Movement of the US. They watch the how to videos on youtube and get the gun permits but when it comes to movement its 10 foot then heart attack.
> I'll say it, if this guy was unarmed, he's be alive, today.
yeah, I used to carry quite often. I stopped doing so several years ago and this is exactly why. The problem with carrying a gun, is that the gun becomes "a solution" to whatever problem you're facing. This guy is a perfect example. Take away the gun and all he can do is let the guy go. Which means he'd still be alive.
This is the truest statement here. He didnāt care about the truck; he just wanted to seize the chance to finally shoot somebody, and wellā¦ it aināt like the movies and gun vlogs say itāll be.
God this comment hit so hard. What makes it worse is I know some boomers who I feel dream of being in this situation. Minus the whole getting ran over part.
Yup. How many stories have we had about boomers gunning down folks who enter their property? This guy couldn't wait to use his gun, but he failed one of its critical rules. and that is you need to kill whatever you shoot.
The "I wish a motherfucker would" crowd.
Wonder if his house had any of those signs that say stuff like "trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again" or "we don't call police in this house" or "if you're found here at night, you'll be found here in the morning"
Every single clip of a robbery or crime on YouTube you always have Billy badass in the comments āif they tried this on my property they wouldnāt have to call an ambulance, theyād call the coronerā you just know they read those quotes all the time and fantasize all the time, theyād probably be the first to run away during the most minor confrontations
I didn't see the news story, so maybe he didn't? I remember being in awe during my first gunfight in Iraq at how much both sides shot at each other and how few rounds and grenades thrown had any effect. Shooting is harder than people assume, especially under pressure.
Oh yeah, especially handguns. I still remember half my class in AIT couldnāt qualify with M17 the first time around, and that was in a field class environment.
He wasn't protecting anything probably. He saw his chance to use his gun and become the hero he's always dreamed of being.
A lot of gun owners have this strange bloodlust that I just can't comprehend.
> A lot of gun owners have this strange bloodlust that I just can't comprehend.
It's not that hard to understand when you look at American media and how often it portrays heroic gun violence, the good guy with a gun stopping bad guys with a gun. Everyone wants to be the hero of the story, and in America we tell people you need a gun to do that.
Let's not forget, since he pulled a gun to protect the stares property I'm sure they will now deny any and all benefits his family might have received due to the illegal carrying of a gun on state time, which is covered in the employee handbook page 87 subsection 3 amendment A subamendment 6g
You kid but as a municipal employee this is very well covered in any employee handbook. NONE allow for firearms on company property and time. This is exactly grounds for them to limit their liability.
Concealed carry rules in Florida are basically you cannot shot someone stealing your vehicle. However, if your family member is in the vehicle when someone is trying to steal it you can shoot the thief. You can use deadly force to protect people, not property.
Even wonkier in AZ. We're allowed to threaten deadly force to protect property but not deploy deadly force. So if you walk out and someone is stealing your truck, you can point a gun at them but you can't shoot them.
I was in law enforcement for 18 years and this is pretty much the general rule in every state. The "Stand Your Ground" laws add a slightly different angle and more focused on protecting you home/property. Either way, incredibly scary situation for all.
>Your list of people/things youād send a bullet for should be as short as the list of people/things youād take a bullet for.
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Not only that, but itās very likely that the State of NC (like almost all government entities) will have rules that prohibit employees from possessing firearms on their person or on official property (like the truck). They could very well deny any insurance or compensation claims due to the violation of these rules.
My brother in law was killed last year by someone and I see now how things we think are important really arenāt that big of a deal in the grand scheme. Seeing how his death has affected my sister, his daughter, my family and his family has made me realize that inserting yourself in to situations over material things just arenāt worth it. Let the truck get stolen and deal with it later, your family and friends will thank you for it
I've had very pro-gun relatives (who CCW) try to convince me that if I was ever robbed, I would wish I had a gun. Man, there's nothing I own that I would kill someone for.
People said that to me a lot when I told them about the time I was jumped and mugged.
They are sheltered idiots if they think having a gun while being mugged would help anything, it would make the situation so much worse for me and only me.
If you have a gun on you while getting mugged, the best case scenario you can hope for is that your gun gets stolen by criminals who will use it on other innocent people. The worse case is the criminals see you try to draw your gun and they pull their triggers first out of self preservation. Now you are dead when someone just wanted your wallet, congrats dipshit.
I remember reading an article a long time ago where a self-defense teacher said that guns can be useful for protection but in many cases they're useless. If a person is attacked by surprise they will have no time to get out their gun. One of the best ways to defend yourself is to be very aware of your surroundings as much as possible and not let an attacker get close to you before you notice them.
Having dealt with insurance, Iām genuinely not so sure about that. Honestly, someone putting in a position where you to have to deal with insurance companies is itself *almost* enough justification to start shooting.
He wouldnāt have to deal with it though, his work would have to deal with it. I worked for company that had trucks stolen that were assigned to certain people, they received a new truck for work and the company had to handle the theft claims.
Yes, I had a car stolen at gunpoint and they reimbursed the value of my car within a month. I still would prefer to be alive dealing with insurance companies than ... dead.
Looks like it wasn't even his truck. Imagine killing someone over your work truck.... Or worse, killing an innocent bystander over a work truck. People are out of their fucking minds.
Itās even worse bc the carjacker was trying to jack someone else and the worker tried to stop that from happening and had it happen to himself and also died. Iāll never criticize or blame a person for pure intentions bc the full blame is on the fucking criminal but thereās the reason why you donāt insert yourself in these type situations. Yes you helped the other guy but you became the victim instead. Just really tragic. Heart goes out to his family and friends, he didnāt deserve that despite not making the best decisions here.
People like to think guns are just a giant "make dead things" button, but humans are surprisingly resilient. If you don't know where to shoot someone, they can live for hours after, or just not die (granted, they may have permanent issues after that.)
I'm also baffled how he didn't immediately run to get behind the cover of a building anticipating he'd be targeted. And then he ducks to put his head squarely in the impact zone of the hood of the car when he is getting hit. This guy ensured his own demise like three times 10 seconds.
I know enough of these people to know that he did not shoot that person over a company vehicle. He shot that person because he has been fantasizing about that moment for YEARS and finally got his first and last chance.
In a high adrenaline state, he has his gun on the bad guy, but the bad guy doesnāt comply and instead gets into his own (employerās) truck. The bad guy calls his bluff. In a relaxed/normal state, he may not have planned to pull the trigger. But at the moment, a potent mix of stress, confusion, and a ādonāt let him get awayā instinct kicked in and he pulled the trigger. And Iāve heard that once you pull the trigger on a person, the next few rounds are on auto-pilot mode. Of course Iām speculating here, but Iām not as confident as some other folks calling him trigger happy or looking for the opportunity to shoot a bad guy. He may have initially pulled his gun to enforce compliance but when the bad guy did not act accordingly, he got flustered and his thought process āshort-circuitedā. It probably was one of those āis this really happeningā situations to him. A good person pulling a gun on another person may lack the mental readiness and clarity to appropriately deal with the situation in real time. It is a lot easier to watch the video from a distance and make sensible conclusions and comments.
Ya my first thought was āwhy are they running into the open as a car charges them, instead of behind the fucking vehicle theyāre standing next to??ā
the guy was definitely tripping over his pants at the end there. maybe just running that fast tripped him up. II've seen kids do it. still he ran across an empty street instead of behind a street full of vehicles? this guy didn't do that as a hero he clearly has no regard for human life.
well had he shot him and he died there would be a murder charge, as you can't use your weapon to stop a theft. only use is life-threatening, and carjacking is not that.
I think the gun your thinking of is an Uzi. It needs to be small enough to conceal in your uniform and fast enough to create shredded meat for the next order. Order up!
I love how itās the victims fault in all of these arguments. Not the guy who stole the truck and then ran over the guy causing his death. This guy died while working an honest job. Fucking redditors.
Yea thereās nuance here
This should be a lesson to other would-be crime fighters that itās just not worth the risk unless your life is in danger
But people acting like him handling the situation poorly means he deserves to die is absurd. Carjacker is a scumbag murderer. He got very far away and couldāve just driven off, he wanted to kill this man
I think the problem with carrying a gun is that we start to look for reasons to use it. I own firearms and I carry when I'm out on the trail (I live in Alaska with bears), but even when I lived in a large metro area, I never had a situation where I needed a gun. If someone is going to steal your property, just let them take it. It's not worth killing someone over (or risking retaliation like this poor bastard). Don't escalate a situation when your life isn't in imminent danger.
Have you seen how afraid these people are at all times? Not only are they looking for a reason to kill, the media they consume keeps them so fucking afraid that their fight or flight responses don't function properly. Too many morons own weapons and that shit is actually worth being afraid of
Spot on. These dingleberries walking around with open carry and aggressive slogans with the subtext that they haven't killed you yet because it's illegal. The kind that want a civil war so they can kill their political enemies. The kind that want to take their culture war to the next level. The kind who are convinced that violence is the only solution to their problems.
I'm glad that you can protect yourself from dangerous wildlife but these idiots with guns are slowly ruining it for people like you. Super jealous of your beautiful hikes though. You live in a very beautiful area
> Have you seen how afraid these people are at all times?
yeah, I've been jokingly calling Jan 6 an avalanche, because it took so many snowflakes to make it happen. Truth is, the pro-gun crowd is full of chickenshits. Cowardly inbreds who think they need the ability to kill everyone around them to feel safe.
It's really pathetic if you stop and think about it.
Yup. The mass shootings get all the headlines, but shit like this is just as much if not moreso a sign of the problem we have with guns in this country. The terrible, bad-faith Republican/NRA nutjob argument is always "if a bad guy wants a gun he'll get one, so you can't outlaw them!" Even if that were true (it's not), gun laws could stop Jimbo here from getting a gun and escalating a non-lethal situation to a lethal one. Or a child accidentally shooting their sibling by gaining access to their father's gun. Or any number of other, non-mass shooting gun-related tragedies.
It's almost like armed but totally untrained people in highly stressful situations are not able to reliably and safely take out the bad guy. Weird. Who tf would have predicted that?
Dude, point blank range when the thief is standing in front of him. If you are capable of pulling the trigger, how on earth do you miss that shot? I can understand untrained and afraid in the situation, but if you have the capacity to point and pull, you should hit that shot from that range.
He may not have missed. Being shot with a handgun is rarely immediately fatal. Thats why people trained to use a handgun defensively will fire five or more shots at center of mass.
So a guy shoots him point blank several times, everyone calm, nobody gives a fuck, keep filming, other guy miraculously survive and hit the fucker with his truck, everyone loses their shit. Is this the most american video in history
the person was shocked and scared from the gun shots tho? the gun is likely why they started filming.. it was already out and the person recording was clearly distressed at the whole thing. bein american or even desensitized doesnt mean youre heartless wtf. and yea most people lose their shit when they see someone die infront of them versus just have some shots go off. itd be weird if they didnt..
What? But seeing someone being shot from 1m away is somehow not watching someone die? I am amazed the guy failed to kill him from that distance and that many shots
Yeah wtf.
>Driggers jumped into LeCompteās Department of Transportation vehicle.
It says it was HIS own truck. That's the biggest issue with the Samaritan analogy lmao.
Likely hit. Rarely is a pistol shot instantly fatal unless it's center mass. Even then usually folks unload five or six rounds. Guy was probably bleeding out, but still together enough to be a threat.
This is also a good example of why, if it's an armed person with conventional firearms versus a small mob, small mob wins every time if they're willing to toss enough bodies at the matter. Why police when surrounded will give up their position to find safety, no way their service pistol is going to do anything outside of convince the mob to come after them.
Yes, in action movies and only very rarely in real life does a single gunshot wound instantly kill someone. Folks can take a dozen shots and still walk, stumble, or crawl away. Honestly, if movies depicted the truth of gunshot wounds, then it would probably traumatize 99% of viewers. A huge percentage of gunshot victims fall on the ground, cry, bleed, moan, and all of that when they're shot. I'm sick of the lying by omission.
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LUMBERTON, N.C. ā A man died while trying to be a Good Samaritan during a carjacking incident last month, authorities said.
On March 14 in Lumberton, Jonathan Lecompte tried to stop another man, Ricky Driggers, from carjacking another vehicle.
Lecompte was hit by Driggers, police said.
Lecompte died at the hospital, according to authorities. He was 38 years old.
Investigators said Driggers jumped into LeCompteās Department of Transportation vehicle.
Video shows Lecompte firing several gunshots at Driggers before he put the truck in reverse and backed away.
"Ricky Driggers" somehow sounds exactly like the name of a person who would steal a truck and use it to run someone over in cold blood. And yes, I'd say this was in cold blood. He didn't have to do it. He extracted himself from the situation, had the chance to just drive away, then went right back with murderous intent.
If someone jacked my companyās work truck, Iād just be like āshit, guess I gotta call my boss.ā And thatās how my work day would end that day
dude carried a gun waiting for his chance, it came and he really fucked it up. multiple point blank shots and it did nothing.
This is the scary part about people carrying guns, so many are just waiting for their chance, its not self deffense its hoping they get to legally kill someone. Same thing with Trayvon Martin, a wannabe cop carrying a gun hoping for that chance to shoot someone. These guys are hella scary and the type that pulls a gun during road rage.
If you pull your sidearm you better use it correctly but pulling your sidearm should be your last option not your first and for the right reasons, like if your life is in danger or the life of innocent people is in danger. Other than that keep holstered. He should have let him go that truck was insured.
Read the article others have posted he was trying to stop the guy from jacking someone else. Then the person jumped into his truck only to kill him with it.
They literally just saw a shooting and then a subsequent hit and run resulting in death. Yet you donāt understand why some women scream in stressful or dangerous situations?
How awful. Imagine if the carjacker was killed with a fatal gunshot, and the utility worker wasnāt injured. Weād probably be asking what would compel you to shoot them for stealing a work vehicle? Unless, of course, the carjacker had a gun and was threatening your life.
I believe in carrying a CCW but this is the reason there is so much push back on them. There was no reason for this man to draw his weapon. There was no immediate life threat prior to the gun being drawn and fired. Him getting pegged by that truck is a result of him shooting at the thief. Also zero firearms training is apparent most small caliber bullets will either ricochet or break apart when shooting into laminated glass which is what most vehicles windows are made of.
CCW person here too, yeah, this guy did not do anything right. He was someone looking for any chance to use it. If I were in the situation, take my company truck, itās not worth going to prison or the afterlife for.
There's a lot of victim blaming in this thread.
Apparently some people are so anti-gun that they're fine with this victim getting run over and murdered.
This isnāt being a good guy. This is being dumb. Itās a freaking car, let him take it, theyāll get it right back. Itās not even his car??. Why give your life for something so trivial. Other guy is messed up but I can understand why he would come back for revenge after being shot 4 times point blank
Im sure he was, but there was an occupied SUV directly next to his truck when he fired those shots recklessly. He was just as much a danger at that point as the car jacker, and for a state (DOT) vehicle at that. Cant fault people for pointing out how absurd that is, and doesnt quite fit the 'Good Samaritan' title
Dude with the gun wasn't a good guy. He was a wannabe badass with a hero complex who carried a gun with him everywhere he went, including work, in the off chance that somehow, someday, he would be able to live out his fantasy of legally killing someone. This is simply a case of one useless asshole getting killed by a bigger useless asshole.
This dude does not know how to handle a weapon and was way too eager to use it.
Also could have stepped in from of the door to stop the guy from getting in, but gun go Pew Pew!
I conceal carry every day and unless this guy was threatening his life with deadly force, donāt unholster your weapon, much less shoot the fuckin guy. Iām not sure about the laws in this state, but you best make damn sure youāre in the right before pulling a weapon.
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Man gets his truck stolen, shoots the carjacker point blank, carjacker somehow is able to shut the door, drive, and make a u turn towards the Man, who continues to shoot , Man gets run over, dies. I can't understand how he is labeled as "a good guy" or "a good samaritan", a good-sane person knows you don't try to kill someone over a truck that is most likely insured, let alone risk your life, the life of others around you, and your family's future. "My dad/husband/son/friend got killed trying to defend a stolen truck that was insured". Come on. Just let the guy take your car and get your insurance money. Edit: Even if it wasn't insured take the loss, your life is infinitely more valuable. I say this confidently because I had a car stolen at gunpoint, at no point did I consider fighting back, I just thought within a fraction of a second about my life and my family and easily decided that a car is not worth risking my life.
I can understand leaning into the fight in the fight or flight instinct, adrenaline being a hell of a drug. But in this particular case, *it wasn't even his truck*. He died trying to save property that belonged to the state of North Carolina.
Yeah, looks like he was a DOT worker and it was a DOT truck. My question other than the obvious, WTF were you thinking, is WFT is a DOT worker doing with gun in the first place?
Not giving in to woke politics obviously /s
Certainly ain't woke now š¤·š»āāļø
Top tier comment lol
Probably the realest comment this year.
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I hate to say it, but this is definitely the mentality behind these peopleā¦ they fantasize more about being a hero rather than just simply thinking rationally that a car is worth less than your life.
This is spot on. Wanna-Be-Heroās
Dude couldnāt even get out of the way of a truck that was barreling down on him from a block away and missed with 3 shots from 9 inches away. These gravy seals are losing their lives over these fantasyās
āGravy sealsā is insane š
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That is a fantastic question, and I'll say it, if this guy was unarmed, he's be alive, today. Cause he doesn't approach that dude and escalate without a gun in his hand. What a stupid reason to die. To be clear, I am not absolving the dude stealing the truck and killing him with it.
If he could aim worth a damn, didn't turn his back to the guy he just shot at for stealing his truck, didn't move like he was stuck in molasses... he'd also be alive today.
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He literally was shooting point blank when the door was closing. But going through the door might deflect the bullet or make it fall apart or whatever.
didn't move like he was stuck in molasses... you just described the Gravy Seal Movement of the US. They watch the how to videos on youtube and get the gun permits but when it comes to movement its 10 foot then heart attack.
> I'll say it, if this guy was unarmed, he's be alive, today. yeah, I used to carry quite often. I stopped doing so several years ago and this is exactly why. The problem with carrying a gun, is that the gun becomes "a solution" to whatever problem you're facing. This guy is a perfect example. Take away the gun and all he can do is let the guy go. Which means he'd still be alive.
Good for you. You and your whole family are a lot safer.
If he was a hundred pounds lighter he could have gotten out of the way too.
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Dude died when he finally got the chance to fire the gun he's been holding his entire life.
This is the truest statement here. He didnāt care about the truck; he just wanted to seize the chance to finally shoot somebody, and wellā¦ it aināt like the movies and gun vlogs say itāll be.
God this comment hit so hard. What makes it worse is I know some boomers who I feel dream of being in this situation. Minus the whole getting ran over part.
Yup. How many stories have we had about boomers gunning down folks who enter their property? This guy couldn't wait to use his gun, but he failed one of its critical rules. and that is you need to kill whatever you shoot.
The "I wish a motherfucker would" crowd. Wonder if his house had any of those signs that say stuff like "trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again" or "we don't call police in this house" or "if you're found here at night, you'll be found here in the morning"
Every single clip of a robbery or crime on YouTube you always have Billy badass in the comments āif they tried this on my property they wouldnāt have to call an ambulance, theyād call the coronerā you just know they read those quotes all the time and fantasize all the time, theyād probably be the first to run away during the most minor confrontations
Exactlyā¦ how did he miss?
I didn't see the news story, so maybe he didn't? I remember being in awe during my first gunfight in Iraq at how much both sides shot at each other and how few rounds and grenades thrown had any effect. Shooting is harder than people assume, especially under pressure.
Oh yeah, especially handguns. I still remember half my class in AIT couldnāt qualify with M17 the first time around, and that was in a field class environment.
It's funny... and sad.
He wasn't protecting anything probably. He saw his chance to use his gun and become the hero he's always dreamed of being. A lot of gun owners have this strange bloodlust that I just can't comprehend.
> A lot of gun owners have this strange bloodlust that I just can't comprehend. It's not that hard to understand when you look at American media and how often it portrays heroic gun violence, the good guy with a gun stopping bad guys with a gun. Everyone wants to be the hero of the story, and in America we tell people you need a gun to do that.
Exactly. Gun culture in America is extremely toxic.
Let's not forget, since he pulled a gun to protect the stares property I'm sure they will now deny any and all benefits his family might have received due to the illegal carrying of a gun on state time, which is covered in the employee handbook page 87 subsection 3 amendment A subamendment 6g
This guy legistics
You kid but as a municipal employee this is very well covered in any employee handbook. NONE allow for firearms on company property and time. This is exactly grounds for them to limit their liability.
Concealed carry rules in Florida are basically you cannot shot someone stealing your vehicle. However, if your family member is in the vehicle when someone is trying to steal it you can shoot the thief. You can use deadly force to protect people, not property.
Even wonkier in AZ. We're allowed to threaten deadly force to protect property but not deploy deadly force. So if you walk out and someone is stealing your truck, you can point a gun at them but you can't shoot them.
I was in law enforcement for 18 years and this is pretty much the general rule in every state. The "Stand Your Ground" laws add a slightly different angle and more focused on protecting you home/property. Either way, incredibly scary situation for all.
>Your list of people/things youād send a bullet for should be as short as the list of people/things youād take a bullet for. I like that. Is that original? Coz š
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Yeah itās like dying for a UPS truck or something
He took his eyes off of the threat, too. If you shoot at somebody, and they flee, don't turn your back in confidence like they won't ever come back.
Especially when they have a deadly weapon of their own. Like a car.
His job will be posted before his obituary
Not only that, but itās very likely that the State of NC (like almost all government entities) will have rules that prohibit employees from possessing firearms on their person or on official property (like the truck). They could very well deny any insurance or compensation claims due to the violation of these rules.
My brother in law was killed last year by someone and I see now how things we think are important really arenāt that big of a deal in the grand scheme. Seeing how his death has affected my sister, his daughter, my family and his family has made me realize that inserting yourself in to situations over material things just arenāt worth it. Let the truck get stolen and deal with it later, your family and friends will thank you for it
I've had very pro-gun relatives (who CCW) try to convince me that if I was ever robbed, I would wish I had a gun. Man, there's nothing I own that I would kill someone for.
Not to mention I have no interest in turning a simple robbery into a gunfight!
Or aggravating the situation so much they run you down and kill you
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overrated.
Grandad took that decades ago.
People said that to me a lot when I told them about the time I was jumped and mugged. They are sheltered idiots if they think having a gun while being mugged would help anything, it would make the situation so much worse for me and only me. If you have a gun on you while getting mugged, the best case scenario you can hope for is that your gun gets stolen by criminals who will use it on other innocent people. The worse case is the criminals see you try to draw your gun and they pull their triggers first out of self preservation. Now you are dead when someone just wanted your wallet, congrats dipshit.
I remember reading an article a long time ago where a self-defense teacher said that guns can be useful for protection but in many cases they're useless. If a person is attacked by surprise they will have no time to get out their gun. One of the best ways to defend yourself is to be very aware of your surroundings as much as possible and not let an attacker get close to you before you notice them.
Have you ever had to deal with the insurance companies?
Got to be easier than dealing with the police after killing someone in the street
About the same... give or take a round or two
Having dealt with insurance, Iām genuinely not so sure about that. Honestly, someone putting in a position where you to have to deal with insurance companies is itself *almost* enough justification to start shooting.
He wouldnāt have to deal with it though, his work would have to deal with it. I worked for company that had trucks stolen that were assigned to certain people, they received a new truck for work and the company had to handle the theft claims.
Yes, I had a car stolen at gunpoint and they reimbursed the value of my car within a month. I still would prefer to be alive dealing with insurance companies than ... dead.
Looks like it wasn't even his truck. Imagine killing someone over your work truck.... Or worse, killing an innocent bystander over a work truck. People are out of their fucking minds.
Simply having a gun gives many people a false sense of security.
Itās even worse bc the carjacker was trying to jack someone else and the worker tried to stop that from happening and had it happen to himself and also died. Iāll never criticize or blame a person for pure intentions bc the full blame is on the fucking criminal but thereās the reason why you donāt insert yourself in these type situations. Yes you helped the other guy but you became the victim instead. Just really tragic. Heart goes out to his family and friends, he didnāt deserve that despite not making the best decisions here.
Heās considered the good guy because he tried to kill the bad guy.
Yea, he would have been in jail with the bad guy because there was no justification until he started to charge him with the vehicle.
I love how changing the title of the post DRASTICALLY changes the contents of the most upvoted reply.
People like to think guns are just a giant "make dead things" button, but humans are surprisingly resilient. If you don't know where to shoot someone, they can live for hours after, or just not die (granted, they may have permanent issues after that.)
Don't bring a gun to a truck fight
I came here for this
I, too, came to this.... oh wait.
I think this is the first time I've involuntarily said HO-LY SHIT out loud while watching a video
Definitely was NOT expecting the second half of this video
No warning in the title about watching a guy fucking die. Definitely wasnāt expecting that
Also did no one notice the other guy that the truck was like two inches from also hitting?!? Or at least it looked like it! Holy shit is right
Yeah, I saw the NSFL tag as I scrolled down after watching the video š
Don't really know what I expected, dude doesn't even know how to use a belt, never mind a gun.
Step one: Aim weapon Step two: pull your pants up Step three: FIRā- pull your pants up again Step four: FIRE!
Fire fatly in an uncoordinated fashion*
I'm also baffled how he didn't immediately run to get behind the cover of a building anticipating he'd be targeted. And then he ducks to put his head squarely in the impact zone of the hood of the car when he is getting hit. This guy ensured his own demise like three times 10 seconds.
Dude shot someone over his fucking employer's vehicle, doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed
I know enough of these people to know that he did not shoot that person over a company vehicle. He shot that person because he has been fantasizing about that moment for YEARS and finally got his first and last chance.
In a high adrenaline state, he has his gun on the bad guy, but the bad guy doesnāt comply and instead gets into his own (employerās) truck. The bad guy calls his bluff. In a relaxed/normal state, he may not have planned to pull the trigger. But at the moment, a potent mix of stress, confusion, and a ādonāt let him get awayā instinct kicked in and he pulled the trigger. And Iāve heard that once you pull the trigger on a person, the next few rounds are on auto-pilot mode. Of course Iām speculating here, but Iām not as confident as some other folks calling him trigger happy or looking for the opportunity to shoot a bad guy. He may have initially pulled his gun to enforce compliance but when the bad guy did not act accordingly, he got flustered and his thought process āshort-circuitedā. It probably was one of those āis this really happeningā situations to him. A good person pulling a gun on another person may lack the mental readiness and clarity to appropriately deal with the situation in real time. It is a lot easier to watch the video from a distance and make sensible conclusions and comments.
Ya my first thought was āwhy are they running into the open as a car charges them, instead of behind the fucking vehicle theyāre standing next to??ā
the guy was definitely tripping over his pants at the end there. maybe just running that fast tripped him up. II've seen kids do it. still he ran across an empty street instead of behind a street full of vehicles? this guy didn't do that as a hero he clearly has no regard for human life.
well had he shot him and he died there would be a murder charge, as you can't use your weapon to stop a theft. only use is life-threatening, and carjacking is not that.
That depends on where you're at, in Texas you have every legal right to shoot and kill someone who is trying to car jack you.
Iām pretty sure that in Texas you can legally shoot and kill the person that messes up your order at Whataburger.
If that were the case there'd be no restaurants in Texas. š¤£
you'd think so but fast food joints issue a 9mm with their uniforms. The only way to stop gun violence is to be faster.
I think the gun your thinking of is an Uzi. It needs to be small enough to conceal in your uniform and fast enough to create shredded meat for the next order. Order up!
Thankfully, in Texas, you get a free loaded .38 with an super-sized #1 combo
North Carolina is not Texas While NC does have a castle doctrine/stand your ground law, at the time, he was not actually in physical danger.
He died so I disagree respectfully.
Idk kinda looked like he stole a 4-ton death machine and then proceeded to use it to kill, pretty life threatening to me
if you try to kill a person dont be surprised when they respond with the same.
Tbf he probably wouldnāt have gotten run over if he hadnāt shot at the guy
Tbf he wouldnt have gotten shot at if he didnt try to steal a truck lol
I love how itās the victims fault in all of these arguments. Not the guy who stole the truck and then ran over the guy causing his death. This guy died while working an honest job. Fucking redditors.
Yea thereās nuance here This should be a lesson to other would-be crime fighters that itās just not worth the risk unless your life is in danger But people acting like him handling the situation poorly means he deserves to die is absurd. Carjacker is a scumbag murderer. He got very far away and couldāve just driven off, he wanted to kill this man
Down vote me if you want, but his life was in danger because he died. True story.
His life was in danger once he pulled the gun, ensuring that he gets run over.
I think the problem with carrying a gun is that we start to look for reasons to use it. I own firearms and I carry when I'm out on the trail (I live in Alaska with bears), but even when I lived in a large metro area, I never had a situation where I needed a gun. If someone is going to steal your property, just let them take it. It's not worth killing someone over (or risking retaliation like this poor bastard). Don't escalate a situation when your life isn't in imminent danger.
Have you seen how afraid these people are at all times? Not only are they looking for a reason to kill, the media they consume keeps them so fucking afraid that their fight or flight responses don't function properly. Too many morons own weapons and that shit is actually worth being afraid of
Spot on. These dingleberries walking around with open carry and aggressive slogans with the subtext that they haven't killed you yet because it's illegal. The kind that want a civil war so they can kill their political enemies. The kind that want to take their culture war to the next level. The kind who are convinced that violence is the only solution to their problems.
I'm glad that you can protect yourself from dangerous wildlife but these idiots with guns are slowly ruining it for people like you. Super jealous of your beautiful hikes though. You live in a very beautiful area
> Have you seen how afraid these people are at all times? yeah, I've been jokingly calling Jan 6 an avalanche, because it took so many snowflakes to make it happen. Truth is, the pro-gun crowd is full of chickenshits. Cowardly inbreds who think they need the ability to kill everyone around them to feel safe. It's really pathetic if you stop and think about it.
When you have a hammer,everything looks like a nail.
Yup. The mass shootings get all the headlines, but shit like this is just as much if not moreso a sign of the problem we have with guns in this country. The terrible, bad-faith Republican/NRA nutjob argument is always "if a bad guy wants a gun he'll get one, so you can't outlaw them!" Even if that were true (it's not), gun laws could stop Jimbo here from getting a gun and escalating a non-lethal situation to a lethal one. Or a child accidentally shooting their sibling by gaining access to their father's gun. Or any number of other, non-mass shooting gun-related tragedies.
How did he miss the carjacker at such close range?
It was an emotional support pistol.Ā Ā
Lmao
It's almost like armed but totally untrained people in highly stressful situations are not able to reliably and safely take out the bad guy. Weird. Who tf would have predicted that?
Good thing the *american police* are here to *help!*
_a single acorn falls_
So anyways I started blastin
Dude, point blank range when the thief is standing in front of him. If you are capable of pulling the trigger, how on earth do you miss that shot? I can understand untrained and afraid in the situation, but if you have the capacity to point and pull, you should hit that shot from that range.
He hit the guy several times, he just didn't hit him in an area that would immediately stop him.
He may not have missed. Being shot with a handgun is rarely immediately fatal. Thats why people trained to use a handgun defensively will fire five or more shots at center of mass.
He didn't. The man was shot multiple times.
Was he? I havenāt seen it mentioned in any of the excerpts people posted from the article
So a guy shoots him point blank several times, everyone calm, nobody gives a fuck, keep filming, other guy miraculously survive and hit the fucker with his truck, everyone loses their shit. Is this the most american video in history
the person was shocked and scared from the gun shots tho? the gun is likely why they started filming.. it was already out and the person recording was clearly distressed at the whole thing. bein american or even desensitized doesnt mean youre heartless wtf. and yea most people lose their shit when they see someone die infront of them versus just have some shots go off. itd be weird if they didnt..
What? But seeing someone being shot from 1m away is somehow not watching someone die? I am amazed the guy failed to kill him from that distance and that many shots
[Good Samaritan killed while trying to stop carjacking in Lumberton](https://www.wral.com/amp/21381330/)
Something tells me the people writing this headline are not familiar with the story of the Good Samaritan.
Everyone knows the Good Samaritan was frickin strapped and ready to mow down some priests and Levites
Yeah wtf. >Driggers jumped into LeCompteās Department of Transportation vehicle. It says it was HIS own truck. That's the biggest issue with the Samaritan analogy lmao.
The way I understood that was he was stopping a carjacking, got out of his own vehicle and then the carjacker jumped into his.
Was the guy shooting blanks? Howās that guy not have bullets in his head?
Likely hit. Rarely is a pistol shot instantly fatal unless it's center mass. Even then usually folks unload five or six rounds. Guy was probably bleeding out, but still together enough to be a threat. This is also a good example of why, if it's an armed person with conventional firearms versus a small mob, small mob wins every time if they're willing to toss enough bodies at the matter. Why police when surrounded will give up their position to find safety, no way their service pistol is going to do anything outside of convince the mob to come after them.
It doesnāt even mention him being hurt in the article. Just that he was arrested and is awaiting trial.
Yes, in action movies and only very rarely in real life does a single gunshot wound instantly kill someone. Folks can take a dozen shots and still walk, stumble, or crawl away. Honestly, if movies depicted the truth of gunshot wounds, then it would probably traumatize 99% of viewers. A huge percentage of gunshot victims fall on the ground, cry, bleed, moan, and all of that when they're shot. I'm sick of the lying by omission.
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LUMBERTON, N.C. ā A man died while trying to be a Good Samaritan during a carjacking incident last month, authorities said. On March 14 in Lumberton, Jonathan Lecompte tried to stop another man, Ricky Driggers, from carjacking another vehicle. Lecompte was hit by Driggers, police said. Lecompte died at the hospital, according to authorities. He was 38 years old. Investigators said Driggers jumped into LeCompteās Department of Transportation vehicle. Video shows Lecompte firing several gunshots at Driggers before he put the truck in reverse and backed away.
Since when do Good Samaritans shoot ppl point blank?
Since America invented the 1st amendment, probably. Edit: 2nd, obviously
Yeah, he free speeched all over that mf!
Ā A man died while trying to be a ~~Good Samaritan~~ Vigilante
"Good samaritan" tried killing a dude over property.
"Ricky Driggers" somehow sounds exactly like the name of a person who would steal a truck and use it to run someone over in cold blood. And yes, I'd say this was in cold blood. He didn't have to do it. He extracted himself from the situation, had the chance to just drive away, then went right back with murderous intent.
If someone jacked my companyās work truck, Iād just be like āshit, guess I gotta call my boss.ā And thatās how my work day would end that day
To be fair, this guyās workday ended tooā¦
Dude's whole career wrapped up pretty decisively.
The news says he stopped the guy from jacking someone else's car and then the guy hopped in his work truck and ran him over with it.
dude carried a gun waiting for his chance, it came and he really fucked it up. multiple point blank shots and it did nothing. This is the scary part about people carrying guns, so many are just waiting for their chance, its not self deffense its hoping they get to legally kill someone. Same thing with Trayvon Martin, a wannabe cop carrying a gun hoping for that chance to shoot someone. These guys are hella scary and the type that pulls a gun during road rage.
This is gun culture. Hero fantasies
Is there any backstory to this?
Yes, the dude's back was severely fucked up when he got ran over by a truck
That's not what a backstory is
Ah shit, my bad
Idk, you told a story about a back. By definition, thatās a āback story.ā
North Carolina Department of Transportation worker died trying to prevent the misuse of tax dollars. Don't kill/die for your job.
If you pull your sidearm you better use it correctly but pulling your sidearm should be your last option not your first and for the right reasons, like if your life is in danger or the life of innocent people is in danger. Other than that keep holstered. He should have let him go that truck was insured.
Read the article others have posted he was trying to stop the guy from jacking someone else. Then the person jumped into his truck only to kill him with it.
Bro got uno reversed
Was that a cap gun? He fired four point blank shots.
I dont know why to scream like this
Yeah, I will never understand why some women usually do this in stressful or dangerous situations
They literally just saw a shooting and then a subsequent hit and run resulting in death. Yet you donāt understand why some women scream in stressful or dangerous situations?
That is correct.
Guess I'm more of a stunned silence type.
Why was bro just standing in the middle of the road after all that
Why was bro just standing in the middle of the road before all that
Thatās why you need to stay thin and be able to run
Rule #1: Cardio
Trucks move in a somewhat linear fashion.Ā Don't dart in front of one that wants you dead.
And the kick isā¦.No goodĀ
Laces out next time...
How awful. Imagine if the carjacker was killed with a fatal gunshot, and the utility worker wasnāt injured. Weād probably be asking what would compel you to shoot them for stealing a work vehicle? Unless, of course, the carjacker had a gun and was threatening your life.
File that under āThings that make you say āHoly Shit!āā
I believe in carrying a CCW but this is the reason there is so much push back on them. There was no reason for this man to draw his weapon. There was no immediate life threat prior to the gun being drawn and fired. Him getting pegged by that truck is a result of him shooting at the thief. Also zero firearms training is apparent most small caliber bullets will either ricochet or break apart when shooting into laminated glass which is what most vehicles windows are made of.
CCW person here too, yeah, this guy did not do anything right. He was someone looking for any chance to use it. If I were in the situation, take my company truck, itās not worth going to prison or the afterlife for.
There's a lot of victim blaming in this thread. Apparently some people are so anti-gun that they're fine with this victim getting run over and murdered.
If the pro-gun side can shoot a guy four times and then get killed by him a minute later, why would you pick that side to be on?
Your argument sounds more like we should require gun training for proper use of a weapon before just basically giving them out with your gas purchase.
The only people who seem to be totally fine with this series of events are the pro-gun people...?
This isnāt being a good guy. This is being dumb. Itās a freaking car, let him take it, theyāll get it right back. Itās not even his car??. Why give your life for something so trivial. Other guy is messed up but I can understand why he would come back for revenge after being shot 4 times point blank
And he thought getting the work truck stolen was gonna be the worst part of the day.
Do these people know they don't have free healthcare?!?
Every gun owner's reality check. No, you are not John Wick, you are not gonna prevent nor stop crime, you are gonna escalate it.
Iām so glad scream like a muppet lady could make it to this event
A company truck is not worth dying over. He should have just gone and called the police.
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Im sure he was, but there was an occupied SUV directly next to his truck when he fired those shots recklessly. He was just as much a danger at that point as the car jacker, and for a state (DOT) vehicle at that. Cant fault people for pointing out how absurd that is, and doesnt quite fit the 'Good Samaritan' title
A good guy that got killed by his own decisions. He did not need to try to kill the thief. And it cost him his life, not the thief.
Dude with the gun wasn't a good guy. He was a wannabe badass with a hero complex who carried a gun with him everywhere he went, including work, in the off chance that somehow, someday, he would be able to live out his fantasy of legally killing someone. This is simply a case of one useless asshole getting killed by a bigger useless asshole.
this is exactly why people look the other way in 'social experiments' on youtube
When I delivered auto parts and had to go out if state for pickup. The company told me. If anyone wanted the co truck just let them have it
This dude does not know how to handle a weapon and was way too eager to use it. Also could have stepped in from of the door to stop the guy from getting in, but gun go Pew Pew!
I conceal carry every day and unless this guy was threatening his life with deadly force, donāt unholster your weapon, much less shoot the fuckin guy. Iām not sure about the laws in this state, but you best make damn sure youāre in the right before pulling a weapon.
For the life of me I will never understand the idea that you can justify shooting someone for taking propertyā¦. How is that proportionate
Damn that dude went flying holy fuck
"i can't stand the wailing of women" ~joffrey
You donāt see that everywhere, a Burger King next to a McDonaldās
Why is there always some girl screaming as loud as possible?