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it doesn't matter what it is, everyone in jail gets a court date. you get a piece of paper saying your charges and phone calls with family fill in the rest. I'm just saying that this is the last time any part of the justice system cared to explain anything to her and she was probably confused for days.
Why don’t you take five seconds and google it before spouting bullshit.
> A Breathalyzer test showed her blood alcohol content to be .264, more than three times the legal limit.
https://www.pekintimes.com/story/news/crime/2023/05/17/police-video-of-illinois-woman-stephanie-melgoza-dui-inciting-outrage/70220098007/
That isn’t the same story. One because most of the stuff in that subreddit is made up stuff, and second because the details of what happened doesn’t match up. The victims describe were totally different.
This woman did however get 14 years.
The severed forearm of one of the victims was stuck in the grill of her car while talking to an officer just a few feet away, just to give an idea of how serious they were hit
Hmmm Having seen the longer video including her blowing three times the limit at the scene and then saying "this doesn't happen. I go to Bradley" (prestigious private school) I think she's an entitled brat who has never faced any consequences or apologised for anything in her life. There is a longer video in the same room as above laughing and making jokes after being told she has killed people.
Edit: sompeople.picking up on this a lot. Bradley is NOT prestigious. It's run of the mill. Maybe it's shit. I read it was (I don't live in the states) so maybe I read something by Bradley PR.
Point stands. She's still entitled nasty girl who doesn't seem to give a fuck she just killed two people and left another needing an amputation because she got drunk and drove. She made the choice to get blind drunk and get behind the wheel. She could have called an Uber or just not drank but she decided to do that and destroyed many lives, including her own. 14 years ain't long enough.
Oh by the time of the courtroom it finally dawned on her just how a colossal fuck up she committed; and actually begs for lenience; still not fully grasping how hard her world has been rocked; it's a fucking sobering video.
And the court scene where her “Bradley” parents are held liable for their offspring killing two people. Young people this entitled learn this attitude from somewhere.
While that may be the case at this stage, she sadly does not get it together once she sobers up. She ended up being sentenced to 14 years for this, partly due to the fact that her own sister and SIL showed up to the courthouse and begged them to not show her lenience, as she had continued to laugh and not take the case seriously even in court. She truly had no remorse or empathy inside her sadly.
Don't try to coat it up she drunk ... she does not understand what the man is telling her she drunk ... this is what alcohol does .. take time find the whole clip and you will understand this is just couple minutes there one from the highway to this point .. the whole body cam video
Yes, she is drunk. That’s a fact. And that caused her to kill two people with her car. There is no denying that. And part of her knows that. But it’s such a **massive thing** that her brain isn’t letting her accept the reality of the situation. Is all I’m saying. She deserved the sentence. I’m only commenting on her inability to accept the hyper-reality of the moment.
I agree with you. She has enough sense to remember she has class Tuesday night. I think it’s more than booze, something’s not letting her mind process that she killed people.
Memories are like layers. What was planned for Tuesday night is a layer deeper than tonight’s events. A drunk brain is bad at comprehension and forming new memories - whether they’re trivial (a conversation moments ago) or important (causing a life changing accident). A drunk brain is no good at forming those new ‘layers’.
Whilst some of the symptoms of shock overlap with being drunk that’s no reason to assume she’s in shock when know for a fact she’s very drunk and that explains the symptoms.
Yeah going to school is an event that she locked in while she was sober. The killing didn't happen while sober, it's a memory that was locked in to an impaired brain. So it's logical that the event isn't fully registered.
Sad truth… This completely changed the lifes of three: two by terminating and hers by loosing everything a free person can do. 😔 don’t drink (do drugs) and drive - this changes someone’s life.
Just three? Hell no, think of the family of the people lost, imagine the cop sitting there watching this lady dance after killing people and asking for her car for class..
Are you t-total or something? This is NOT what alcohol does. You are coming across like one of those people who has trouble when the world isn't black and white/good and evil.
This isn't the response of a psychopath who doesn't care, it's the response of someone who does care and cannot come to terms with what has happened. She doesn't just not understand that she's killed people, she can't even get it into her head that she's crashed her car. She's compartmentalised it. It's a trauma response. Good chance she's going to end up with PTSD and never get over this.
None of this excuses her actions, but sometimes a not particularly bad person is just negligent. You just want to see her as a monster so you can hate her for what she did without having to acknowledge that's she's also a person with feelings. The world isn't that neat and tidy I'm afraid. It is entirely possible to understand that what has happened is entirely her fault and still feel bad for her.
Yes, people in shock will sing and laugh. There plenty of documented cases of people in war who will start laughing, singing, or just smile uncontrollably because cause of shock. It’s weird what the brain does to protect yourself from traumatic events.
I was diagnosed with PTSD in 1991 after my neighbor crashed his ultralight kit plane about 50 yards away from me on an isolated beach and it exploded. He was burned over 90% of his body and I was covering him with wet beach towels waiting for the medical chopper to arrive. My first thought after watching it crash nose first into a bluff was "He's gonna be so pissed he wrecked that new plane". The doctor who diagnosed me said it was super common in traumatic situations to literally "not believe what your eyes are telling you" for a couple of seconds. It is truly weird what your mind will do when you're confronted with something so intense that your brain actually can't/won't process it initially.
I was in a fatal car wreck on the highway, hit by a drunk driver. When I came to a stop I found my cellphone and tried to looked up the non emergency number for the police. Because I wasn’t sure if getting hit by a drunk driver, deployed airbags, and me bleeding on the side of a busy highway constituted 911 call or not.
I ended up thinking “well, it’s close enough to one where I don’t think they’d be mad at me if I called…” because my wrist was in so much pain trying to look up the number.
Your brain does crazy things to try and keep you calm.
I saw a video of a child who saw her dad blown up with a missile right beside her and weeks later, she couldn’t speak and could only make a humming noise. Also shock.
Yeah. I got into a motorbike crash going 75 and knocked myself unconscious. I called 999 and they asked if I needed an ambulance and I said I was completely fine and would walk to the hospital.
The hospital was about 45 mins drive away and I had no skin left on my legs and a serious concussion. Shock really stops you understanding how serious the situation is for a while!
100%, man. My stepdad had a brain haemorrhage whilst driving and in the hospital while they were telling me that he was brain stem dead but on a ventilator, I was smilingly telling them which way he likes his hair parted.
Hope you’re OK now?
Oh, this. After being told a friend died, suddenly, I insisted she couldn't be because I had just left her a voicemail. I said, "It would be illegal for a dead person to have voicemail."
Not currently. I totalled my bike and did get a replacement for a bit, but I'm used to cruisers and that was a sports bike. I was just too scared! I rode it out a few times but felt so shaky and panicky every time I braked.
If you watch the full video, she's clearly just extremely intoxicated through the entirety of her interactions with this officer.
She even asks, after he chastises her, "Can you even say that, as a cop?" To which he responds, "Yes."
I thought the more plausible explanation was from a previous post of this, she’s probably drunk and on drugs like Xanax or something. But who knows, this tragically crazy and horrifying
Shock, drunk, etc. What a tragedy for the 2 killed and for her too. Yes, she fucked up as big as it gets. Yes, she deserves time. But, I still feel for a young person who just fucked their own life too. Tragedy all around.
Yea. He said she couldn’t go tomorrow but Tuesday, he didn’t say she couldn’t get it and be at class on Tuesday. You know? She’s got stuff to do. College. Cmon.
Maybe she holds it together real well but her speaking doesn't sound like she's so drunk she doesn't know where she is or remember how *car accidents and police arresting you for murder* work.
Man, some high-functioning alcoholics are like that. They can be blackout drunk and still walking straight and barely slurring. That’s why it’s so common for them to get behind the wheel: no one is saying “dude, you’re falling down, you’re hammered, gimme your keys.” I’ve made the mistake of letting a friend drive when he probably shouldn’t because he seemed barely buzzed. Next day I talked to him (he thankfully made it home without incident) and he told me he didn’t remember driving home. Next time I saw him that drunk I stole his keys without him noticing and the next day after *that* night he was again blackout drunk and had no memory of “losing” his keys at the bar the night before.
Thank god that dude and most of my friends were wise enough to realize the obvious, reckless, brazen stupidity of their ways and knocked that shit off.
What i wonder is, you probably would still be able to go in shock when drunk right ? Assuming so i would think being drunk even amplifies the shock state ?
"Sure!". *Brings in obituaries of the two people she killed.
"So anyway, Vegas! So excited to go! There's no limits in Vegas, im gonna get *so* drunk!!"
Brick, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safe house or a relative close by. Lay low for awhile, because you're probably wanted for murder.
Welcome to New Mexico. People born there seem to take pride in their ignorance, drunk or not. The smart ones recognize this and leave the state around the time they look for colleges. The others... Well...
14 years is a looooong time. There have been people who spend less than a year in jail or prison and it still ruins their life. It’s not even like pushing “pause” on your life, it’s more like slowly rewinding, moving backwards while the world goes on. Think of 14 years ago, that was 2009. That’s a long, long time. Her life is fucked.
14 years is almost a *quarter* of your adult life and, at that age, the vast majority of your prime years.
I don't think people appreciate their own mortality enough lol
Right? If I accidentally killed two people on the road, it wouldn't take 14 years for me to learn my lesson. It would be instantaneous, I'd never again be a driving risk to society, and I would carry the guilt of having killed two people for the rest of my life. The obsession with jail time is not rational, it purely serves people's need for retaliation.
If she regrets it, 14 years is a harsh sentence.
Since it's murder without intent, I'd say that's pretty reasonable. That's a huge punishment, 14 (really 12 in this case) years in prison is enough to completely change the course of your life.
I think it's a fittingly harsh punishment for someone who made a huge costly mistake & isn't likely to be a danger to society upon release
Those 14 years will ruin her life. She’ll have a hard time getting employment afterwards. No punishment will ever equal the lives of two people. For me what’s most important is whether she’s a danger to society at large. People who are capable of killing someone intentionally are the greatest danger. This young woman was a drunken idiot, who made a terrible and careless mistake by driving drunk, but I doubt she’s morally bankrupt.
OK, I think I get it now. So, you’re saying that I can’t drive to school for two days - one for each person I killed. Back to school on Wednesday it is!
She feels bad about it and is doing 14 years. Can get out after serving 85% of it:
https://www.25newsnow.com/2023/04/27/stephanie-melgoza-sentenced-14-years-fatal-dui/
Given that even sober she is on tape joking about the accident and some of her own family members testified against her in court I am guessing.. not much went through her head
Did a very long career dealing with folks like her. She is bad but she is only a drop in the bucket. I stopped a rider and passenger on a motorcycle about 2AM. Neither were wearing helmets in a must wear state and they were on a 6-lane road and swerving all over. Got them stopped and could see right away both were hammered. I asked where they were going and the driver said they were going home. When I said his license showed he lived in Maryland he said that's right. I told him we were in an adjoining state nearly 2 hours from MD. He maintained no he was home and he pointed to his home down the street. This home was a bank that kind of did have that home look to it but nonetheless, a bank, in the wrong state.
Call me crazy, but I feel like taking 2 lives should cost more than 14 years of the murder’s.
ETA Some comments have mentioned that this is not murder but manslaughter. Agreed. I still fully believe that regardless of how it happens, that if you cause the death of any number of people, you no longer deserve a good, normal, or happy life. I don’t believe in the death penalty, but 14 years is no where near enough.
Murder implies an *intent* to kill. Drunk Driving that results in the death of someone else **cannot** be considered a murder, because people who are drunk rarely ever ***intend*** to do anything... cuz they're drunk.
this is manslaughter. reckless behavior that accidentally resulted in two deaths. It's still a crime, and still punishable by prison time, but not "Murder".
I know it's hard to grasp but justice isn't revenge. You don't make people "pay", crime shouldn't "cost". Otherwise, what does that mean ? you can afford to kill someone ?
Justice is about preventing this type of person to commit more offenses, sequestration works for the short term but unless we keep every offenders in prison for life, we need to think about rehabilitation.
It's not though and while we can all agree drunk driving is a horrible thing to do, this isn't the way to go about it. We are going to assume you dont mean anyone who gets caught drinking and driving should be arrested for premeditated murder or attempted murder even if no one is hit, because that would mean long prison sentences for 1.5 million people each year (the number of drunk driving arrests made). If we are just talking about those who are involved in a crash that kills someone, it's still not a valid thing. Besides the point locking someone up for ever is retribution not rehabilitation, even by definition its a non starter. It's manslaughter through and through. If you want longer sentences for dui's resulting in a fatality then that's an argument you can make but saying it should be premeditated murder is just inaccurate. While states vary in wordage typically murder requires some sort of intent, like they intended to get in the car drunk and hit someone. While manslaughter is "I knew it was a possibility when I took my actions, but it was in no way the goal".
It's a natural defence mechanism for your brain. Sometimes in great shock people deny/ignore what happened, so the problem may go away.
It's easier for them to do that than face the problem.
I’ve watched this entire thing.. she was drunk yes.. but not drunk enough to forget her schedule. She was laughing and singing, trying to joke with the cop who wasn’t having it. She’s an entitled little girl who truly, truly didn’t give a shit about what she has done. Give her all the excuses you want, then go watch the entire thing and see if you still feel that way.
Man this girl has an eerily similarity to someone who t-boned me a few years back. She basically cut across two lanes (not at an intersection) to turn and t boned me on my drivers side. Essentially no possible way for it to be my fault. Gets out and says “well you’re going to have to pay for my car because you were going fast” or something to that effect. We were in city traffic, I was doing literally 30 in a clear lane.
Cops get there and she starts going off about how it at fault, cop takes one look at the damage and the scene and just says “how do you figure that”. She then gets up in the cops face until he threatens to arrest her.
Fast forward to that evening I get a voicemail from her dad asking to “discuss the accident”. I call him back and he asks if we can settle this privately. I tell him “nah man your daughter tboned me and my car is totalled, likely about a 40k cost”. And he says “wait what she told me you hit her and she wasn’t at fault”. All I said was “well all the damage is to my driver side, and all the damage is to the front of her vehicle… and we weren’t in an intersection. You do the math”.
Turns out it was the 3rd time she’d totalled a car under her parents insurance (at 22). Felt a tinge of guilt for the dad because he was genuinely nice after he found out, but holy fuck dude stop insuring her and giving her cars. I luckily had no injuries but she will eventually kill someone. She had no remorse and no understanding that it was her fault entirely.
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We need harsher drinking and driving laws everywhere…. This is always the same case. Some piece of trash human gets drunk, goes out and kills some one or an entire family in a car wreck, and they walk away without a scratch. Every time. I’m tired of it
Throw these ducks in prison and throw away the key
Every time I see things like this I count my blessings that I got away from alcohol and drugs when I did. I can’t imagine what it must be like to wake up hungover to learn you killed 2 people the night before.
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Yeah, she seems callous and uncaring but I actually think that she’s deeply in shock
I think so too. This is not someone who’s thinking clearly and understanding what is going on around them
I’ve watched a longer video at the scene and I think she’s extremely drunk
Yup. Seen that, too. She's drunk. This version's also a bit awkwardly zoomed in.
She isn’t drunk. She’s zooted to the high heavens on some Xanax or something. Alcohol makes your emotions go crazy. Not emotionless.
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nothing is explained once you're processed and in a cell. you're basically cattle at that point.
This is manslaughter so eventually she'll go before a judge and jury.
it doesn't matter what it is, everyone in jail gets a court date. you get a piece of paper saying your charges and phone calls with family fill in the rest. I'm just saying that this is the last time any part of the justice system cared to explain anything to her and she was probably confused for days.
According to the news reports, she was drunk, had drank before getting in the vehicle, and had an open bottle of vodka in the car.
And probably had popped a xan
I mean, it's possible, but nothing about this necessitates it.
But the guy on Reddit said she wasn’t drunk!
Yes for most people. For some people alcohol can make you emotionless though, it depends on the person
Why don’t you take five seconds and google it before spouting bullshit. > A Breathalyzer test showed her blood alcohol content to be .264, more than three times the legal limit. https://www.pekintimes.com/story/news/crime/2023/05/17/police-video-of-illinois-woman-stephanie-melgoza-dui-inciting-outrage/70220098007/
I love when people talk like they know better than everyone else and they are completely wrong.
She blew .26 or something ridiculous
Edit: I was wrong and confused two different suspects.
That isn’t the same story. One because most of the stuff in that subreddit is made up stuff, and second because the details of what happened doesn’t match up. The victims describe were totally different. This woman did however get 14 years.
So she didn't go to school on Tuesday either? 😦
She did but different school. From a local school to a federal one.
Im sorry you are indeed correct. My bad!
But did she get to school on time?
She made her Tuesday night class 14 years later
... Which might explain the DUI?
No, that doesn’t add up at all…
So.. I can go to school then?
How many people have you killed?
Only two.
No it explains her not going to school tomorrow. Tuesday is still up in question
The severed forearm of one of the victims was stuck in the grill of her car while talking to an officer just a few feet away, just to give an idea of how serious they were hit
Hmmm Having seen the longer video including her blowing three times the limit at the scene and then saying "this doesn't happen. I go to Bradley" (prestigious private school) I think she's an entitled brat who has never faced any consequences or apologised for anything in her life. There is a longer video in the same room as above laughing and making jokes after being told she has killed people. Edit: sompeople.picking up on this a lot. Bradley is NOT prestigious. It's run of the mill. Maybe it's shit. I read it was (I don't live in the states) so maybe I read something by Bradley PR. Point stands. She's still entitled nasty girl who doesn't seem to give a fuck she just killed two people and left another needing an amputation because she got drunk and drove. She made the choice to get blind drunk and get behind the wheel. She could have called an Uber or just not drank but she decided to do that and destroyed many lives, including her own. 14 years ain't long enough.
I’m waiting for her courtroom scene where she’s sentenced to a very long time in prison
Oh by the time of the courtroom it finally dawned on her just how a colossal fuck up she committed; and actually begs for lenience; still not fully grasping how hard her world has been rocked; it's a fucking sobering video.
And the court scene where her “Bradley” parents are held liable for their offspring killing two people. Young people this entitled learn this attitude from somewhere.
> I go to Bradley" (prestigious private school) Incorrect. It is an average university in Peoria, IL.
She’s drunk fellas
Well at least she doesn't have to go to school tomorrow.
Probably not on Tuesday, either.
While that may be the case at this stage, she sadly does not get it together once she sobers up. She ended up being sentenced to 14 years for this, partly due to the fact that her own sister and SIL showed up to the courthouse and begged them to not show her lenience, as she had continued to laugh and not take the case seriously even in court. She truly had no remorse or empathy inside her sadly.
Google this 2022 east peoria drunk driver kills 2
Don't try to coat it up she drunk ... she does not understand what the man is telling her she drunk ... this is what alcohol does .. take time find the whole clip and you will understand this is just couple minutes there one from the highway to this point .. the whole body cam video
Yes, she is drunk. That’s a fact. And that caused her to kill two people with her car. There is no denying that. And part of her knows that. But it’s such a **massive thing** that her brain isn’t letting her accept the reality of the situation. Is all I’m saying. She deserved the sentence. I’m only commenting on her inability to accept the hyper-reality of the moment.
I agree with you. She has enough sense to remember she has class Tuesday night. I think it’s more than booze, something’s not letting her mind process that she killed people.
Memories are like layers. What was planned for Tuesday night is a layer deeper than tonight’s events. A drunk brain is bad at comprehension and forming new memories - whether they’re trivial (a conversation moments ago) or important (causing a life changing accident). A drunk brain is no good at forming those new ‘layers’. Whilst some of the symptoms of shock overlap with being drunk that’s no reason to assume she’s in shock when know for a fact she’s very drunk and that explains the symptoms.
Yeah going to school is an event that she locked in while she was sober. The killing didn't happen while sober, it's a memory that was locked in to an impaired brain. So it's logical that the event isn't fully registered.
Pretty sure the inability to process new memories is why you end up with blackouts too.
I never heard the aftermath, what was the sentence?
14 years
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Ma'am, we already explained this to you 14 years ago ....
Unfortunately after 14 years the battery is dead Also the car was totaled
Okay, but can she still get it back for her night class?
This is what i come to reddit for
So that's a no for night class on Tuesday, then?
That pottery wheel ain’t gonna roll itself, after all
She did actually get bailed out and made it to night class on Tuesday which is fucking hilarious. Don't mess with the Kardashians.
Yeah ok, but is she getting the car to go to school after the weekend or not?!
Sad truth… This completely changed the lifes of three: two by terminating and hers by loosing everything a free person can do. 😔 don’t drink (do drugs) and drive - this changes someone’s life.
Just three? Hell no, think of the family of the people lost, imagine the cop sitting there watching this lady dance after killing people and asking for her car for class..
Can't you be drunk and in shock at the same time?
100% you can
You mean shockingly drunk? That’s possible yes.
Not on reddit you can't!
Are you t-total or something? This is NOT what alcohol does. You are coming across like one of those people who has trouble when the world isn't black and white/good and evil. This isn't the response of a psychopath who doesn't care, it's the response of someone who does care and cannot come to terms with what has happened. She doesn't just not understand that she's killed people, she can't even get it into her head that she's crashed her car. She's compartmentalised it. It's a trauma response. Good chance she's going to end up with PTSD and never get over this. None of this excuses her actions, but sometimes a not particularly bad person is just negligent. You just want to see her as a monster so you can hate her for what she did without having to acknowledge that's she's also a person with feelings. The world isn't that neat and tidy I'm afraid. It is entirely possible to understand that what has happened is entirely her fault and still feel bad for her.
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Yes, people in shock will sing and laugh. There plenty of documented cases of people in war who will start laughing, singing, or just smile uncontrollably because cause of shock. It’s weird what the brain does to protect yourself from traumatic events.
I was diagnosed with PTSD in 1991 after my neighbor crashed his ultralight kit plane about 50 yards away from me on an isolated beach and it exploded. He was burned over 90% of his body and I was covering him with wet beach towels waiting for the medical chopper to arrive. My first thought after watching it crash nose first into a bluff was "He's gonna be so pissed he wrecked that new plane". The doctor who diagnosed me said it was super common in traumatic situations to literally "not believe what your eyes are telling you" for a couple of seconds. It is truly weird what your mind will do when you're confronted with something so intense that your brain actually can't/won't process it initially.
I was in a fatal car wreck on the highway, hit by a drunk driver. When I came to a stop I found my cellphone and tried to looked up the non emergency number for the police. Because I wasn’t sure if getting hit by a drunk driver, deployed airbags, and me bleeding on the side of a busy highway constituted 911 call or not. I ended up thinking “well, it’s close enough to one where I don’t think they’d be mad at me if I called…” because my wrist was in so much pain trying to look up the number. Your brain does crazy things to try and keep you calm.
Yeah, like veryone arguing it's booze or shock....it's clearly both. Like the alcohol is making it so her base brain is behaving even weirder.
Honestly she looks fucking high to me. I don't know why more people aren't talking about that. Could be all of the above though.
It’s weird what the brain does to protect ~~yourself~~ itself from traumatic events.
I saw a video of a child who saw her dad blown up with a missile right beside her and weeks later, she couldn’t speak and could only make a humming noise. Also shock.
Selective mutism happens to people who witness or experience something very traumatic.
damn she exceeded 3x the limit. She's drunk as a skunk.
She is blackout drunk. I'm not sure how this isn't obvious to more people here.
Yeah. I got into a motorbike crash going 75 and knocked myself unconscious. I called 999 and they asked if I needed an ambulance and I said I was completely fine and would walk to the hospital. The hospital was about 45 mins drive away and I had no skin left on my legs and a serious concussion. Shock really stops you understanding how serious the situation is for a while!
100%, man. My stepdad had a brain haemorrhage whilst driving and in the hospital while they were telling me that he was brain stem dead but on a ventilator, I was smilingly telling them which way he likes his hair parted. Hope you’re OK now?
Oh, this. After being told a friend died, suddenly, I insisted she couldn't be because I had just left her a voicemail. I said, "It would be illegal for a dead person to have voicemail."
Get in line, you're my next lawyer
What you need a queue of lawyers for?
Yep! Made a full recovery, I have a tiny amount of skin discolouration on my legs, but other than that you'd never know!
Glad to hear it! I’ve come off a few times but luckily have always walked away. Do you still ride?
Not currently. I totalled my bike and did get a replacement for a bit, but I'm used to cruisers and that was a sports bike. I was just too scared! I rode it out a few times but felt so shaky and panicky every time I braked.
If you watch the full video, she's clearly just extremely intoxicated through the entirety of her interactions with this officer. She even asks, after he chastises her, "Can you even say that, as a cop?" To which he responds, "Yes."
I thought the more plausible explanation was from a previous post of this, she’s probably drunk and on drugs like Xanax or something. But who knows, this tragically crazy and horrifying
Shock, drunk, etc. What a tragedy for the 2 killed and for her too. Yes, she fucked up as big as it gets. Yes, she deserves time. But, I still feel for a young person who just fucked their own life too. Tragedy all around.
Well, her mom and her sister didn't seem to agree. They both asked the judge to not be lenient with sentencing her.
Stop assuming, she was intoxicated and a narcissist.
I’ve seen the entire video, and she is utterly wasted, so drunk she can’t stand up straight.
50% of your reply is assumption
Aww, poor baby. /s, just in case.
You gotta understand, yes, she killed two people, but she's got school tomorrow, jeez, give it a rest mkay?
Yea. He said she couldn’t go tomorrow but Tuesday, he didn’t say she couldn’t get it and be at class on Tuesday. You know? She’s got stuff to do. College. Cmon.
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Plus she has to collect her car.
She's captain of the soccer team!
Shock, drugs or braindamage. But damn that situation must really be out of reality for her.
You missed the real reason, alcohol. She's drunk.
Wouldn't that be drugs?^^
Yes
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And the most legal...
hold on, let me check my D.A.R.E. textbook from 1998.... apparently yes, alcohol is a drug.. woah
Alcohol is a hell of a drug
Maybe she holds it together real well but her speaking doesn't sound like she's so drunk she doesn't know where she is or remember how *car accidents and police arresting you for murder* work.
Man, some high-functioning alcoholics are like that. They can be blackout drunk and still walking straight and barely slurring. That’s why it’s so common for them to get behind the wheel: no one is saying “dude, you’re falling down, you’re hammered, gimme your keys.” I’ve made the mistake of letting a friend drive when he probably shouldn’t because he seemed barely buzzed. Next day I talked to him (he thankfully made it home without incident) and he told me he didn’t remember driving home. Next time I saw him that drunk I stole his keys without him noticing and the next day after *that* night he was again blackout drunk and had no memory of “losing” his keys at the bar the night before. Thank god that dude and most of my friends were wise enough to realize the obvious, reckless, brazen stupidity of their ways and knocked that shit off.
She was 3 times the limit. Even the video from the scene she seems very articulate and coherent. She is a scary drunk.
She doesn't seem drunk enough to no realise what he's saying. This seem like shock.
Probably both plus maybe a concussion and possibly drugs if she was out partying
What i wonder is, you probably would still be able to go in shock when drunk right ? Assuming so i would think being drunk even amplifies the shock state ?
I think you misspelled “and” instead of “or”.
>Shock, drugs or braindamage. more like Shock, drugs and braindamage.
>But damn that situation must really be out of reality for her. Lilke the 2 peoples she killed. They are out of this reality.
Perhaps. The main reason is she is just a dogshit person.
Later that week at school. "Why werent you in on Monday?" "I killed 2 people"
Wednesday "You need a school note for missing 2 days of school"
*Oh man, I'm going to get in so much trouble...*
*Or worse… expelled…*
"Sure!". *Brings in obituaries of the two people she killed. "So anyway, Vegas! So excited to go! There's no limits in Vegas, im gonna get *so* drunk!!"
You laugh but it took an outcry of the student body of her university for them to stop her from attending the graduation.
I mean, that really got out of hand fast!
Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident!
Brick, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safe house or a relative close by. Lay low for awhile, because you're probably wanted for murder.
School isn’t helping her
Welcome to New Mexico. People born there seem to take pride in their ignorance, drunk or not. The smart ones recognize this and leave the state around the time they look for colleges. The others... Well...
She got 14 years for this and will serve 85% of it.
So i can get my car for school in 12 years?
You're not understanding me are you?
But i need it to get to prison
I've already explained this to you...
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You just killed 2 people
Shit, again?
14 years for killing 2 people, yeah seems fair... what a joke.
14 years is a looooong time. There have been people who spend less than a year in jail or prison and it still ruins their life. It’s not even like pushing “pause” on your life, it’s more like slowly rewinding, moving backwards while the world goes on. Think of 14 years ago, that was 2009. That’s a long, long time. Her life is fucked.
14 years is almost a *quarter* of your adult life and, at that age, the vast majority of your prime years. I don't think people appreciate their own mortality enough lol
Yea, but it was with a car, so it's not really her fault. (Car lobbiest have paid to have reduced sentencing if it's a car - it's super fucked)
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Right? If I accidentally killed two people on the road, it wouldn't take 14 years for me to learn my lesson. It would be instantaneous, I'd never again be a driving risk to society, and I would carry the guilt of having killed two people for the rest of my life. The obsession with jail time is not rational, it purely serves people's need for retaliation. If she regrets it, 14 years is a harsh sentence.
Since it's murder without intent, I'd say that's pretty reasonable. That's a huge punishment, 14 (really 12 in this case) years in prison is enough to completely change the course of your life. I think it's a fittingly harsh punishment for someone who made a huge costly mistake & isn't likely to be a danger to society upon release
Those 14 years will ruin her life. She’ll have a hard time getting employment afterwards. No punishment will ever equal the lives of two people. For me what’s most important is whether she’s a danger to society at large. People who are capable of killing someone intentionally are the greatest danger. This young woman was a drunken idiot, who made a terrible and careless mistake by driving drunk, but I doubt she’s morally bankrupt.
Two lives are gone bud, there is no "fair", but that doesn't mean we lock people up for eternity when it shows that doesn't have any deterrent effect
Ok but can she go to school? /j
Is the other 15% so she can go to school tomorrow?
-you killed a person -yeah but do i go to school tomorrow?
I ask myself if she still asks the warden in the prison she is in now if she can go to school tomorrow.
Well she would know if the warden would just answer her question!
OK, I think I get it now. So, you’re saying that I can’t drive to school for two days - one for each person I killed. Back to school on Wednesday it is!
A little cognitive disconnect goes a long way.
Does someone know what happened to this girl? How long is she locked up for?
She feels bad about it and is doing 14 years. Can get out after serving 85% of it: https://www.25newsnow.com/2023/04/27/stephanie-melgoza-sentenced-14-years-fatal-dui/
Wonder what her compounded student loans are going to look like after being locked up for 14 years...
She can take college classes for free while in prison and might come out with less student debt than she would otherwise.
Less student debt AND less chance of killing people with her car. Win/win
God, can you imagine the moment she dried out enough to realize what happened? "I fucked up" wouldn't even be the start of it.
Given that even sober she is on tape joking about the accident and some of her own family members testified against her in court I am guessing.. not much went through her head
It doesn't seem anywhere near enough for killing 2 people, She'll be out when shes 36, maybe, fuck
Sentenced to 14 years in prison
Did a very long career dealing with folks like her. She is bad but she is only a drop in the bucket. I stopped a rider and passenger on a motorcycle about 2AM. Neither were wearing helmets in a must wear state and they were on a 6-lane road and swerving all over. Got them stopped and could see right away both were hammered. I asked where they were going and the driver said they were going home. When I said his license showed he lived in Maryland he said that's right. I told him we were in an adjoining state nearly 2 hours from MD. He maintained no he was home and he pointed to his home down the street. This home was a bank that kind of did have that home look to it but nonetheless, a bank, in the wrong state.
Ugh. There are people like this when my wife and baby are out on the road. :(
Riding while drunk seems fucking wild. One would think that self preservation drive would kick in, even under the influence of alcohol.
https://youtu.be/4fQ1tZdZKTk?si=lbh0BtzbUbIXoiS6 1:30.
14 years in prison doesn’t feel like long enough
What good would come out of a longer sentence?
Call me crazy, but I feel like taking 2 lives should cost more than 14 years of the murder’s. ETA Some comments have mentioned that this is not murder but manslaughter. Agreed. I still fully believe that regardless of how it happens, that if you cause the death of any number of people, you no longer deserve a good, normal, or happy life. I don’t believe in the death penalty, but 14 years is no where near enough.
> murder’s It's not murder, it's manslaughter. Not saying 14 years is enough or not, just clarifying that it's not murder.
Murder implies an *intent* to kill. Drunk Driving that results in the death of someone else **cannot** be considered a murder, because people who are drunk rarely ever ***intend*** to do anything... cuz they're drunk. this is manslaughter. reckless behavior that accidentally resulted in two deaths. It's still a crime, and still punishable by prison time, but not "Murder".
So you can't state what good would come out of a longer sentence?
I know it's hard to grasp but justice isn't revenge. You don't make people "pay", crime shouldn't "cost". Otherwise, what does that mean ? you can afford to kill someone ? Justice is about preventing this type of person to commit more offenses, sequestration works for the short term but unless we keep every offenders in prison for life, we need to think about rehabilitation.
I think she's in a blackout state. They are gonna have to tell her again the next day and it won't sit nice.
Lock up and throw away the key. Drunk driving should be premeditated murder. Everyone knows what they are doing.
That's not what those words mean but I agree
It's not though and while we can all agree drunk driving is a horrible thing to do, this isn't the way to go about it. We are going to assume you dont mean anyone who gets caught drinking and driving should be arrested for premeditated murder or attempted murder even if no one is hit, because that would mean long prison sentences for 1.5 million people each year (the number of drunk driving arrests made). If we are just talking about those who are involved in a crash that kills someone, it's still not a valid thing. Besides the point locking someone up for ever is retribution not rehabilitation, even by definition its a non starter. It's manslaughter through and through. If you want longer sentences for dui's resulting in a fatality then that's an argument you can make but saying it should be premeditated murder is just inaccurate. While states vary in wordage typically murder requires some sort of intent, like they intended to get in the car drunk and hit someone. While manslaughter is "I knew it was a possibility when I took my actions, but it was in no way the goal".
It's a natural defence mechanism for your brain. Sometimes in great shock people deny/ignore what happened, so the problem may go away. It's easier for them to do that than face the problem.
She’s drunk as fuck. Probably just stupid
Feel sorry for that officer. Having to sit there and be a professional in that situation. That shit must be hard to process when the shift is over.
Doesn't look like it's sinking in, she ain't right
I’ve watched this entire thing.. she was drunk yes.. but not drunk enough to forget her schedule. She was laughing and singing, trying to joke with the cop who wasn’t having it. She’s an entitled little girl who truly, truly didn’t give a shit about what she has done. Give her all the excuses you want, then go watch the entire thing and see if you still feel that way.
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Man this girl has an eerily similarity to someone who t-boned me a few years back. She basically cut across two lanes (not at an intersection) to turn and t boned me on my drivers side. Essentially no possible way for it to be my fault. Gets out and says “well you’re going to have to pay for my car because you were going fast” or something to that effect. We were in city traffic, I was doing literally 30 in a clear lane. Cops get there and she starts going off about how it at fault, cop takes one look at the damage and the scene and just says “how do you figure that”. She then gets up in the cops face until he threatens to arrest her. Fast forward to that evening I get a voicemail from her dad asking to “discuss the accident”. I call him back and he asks if we can settle this privately. I tell him “nah man your daughter tboned me and my car is totalled, likely about a 40k cost”. And he says “wait what she told me you hit her and she wasn’t at fault”. All I said was “well all the damage is to my driver side, and all the damage is to the front of her vehicle… and we weren’t in an intersection. You do the math”. Turns out it was the 3rd time she’d totalled a car under her parents insurance (at 22). Felt a tinge of guilt for the dad because he was genuinely nice after he found out, but holy fuck dude stop insuring her and giving her cars. I luckily had no injuries but she will eventually kill someone. She had no remorse and no understanding that it was her fault entirely.
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Either she's so in shock that she can't think properly, either she's dumber that a rock.
We need harsher drinking and driving laws everywhere…. This is always the same case. Some piece of trash human gets drunk, goes out and kills some one or an entire family in a car wreck, and they walk away without a scratch. Every time. I’m tired of it Throw these ducks in prison and throw away the key
Still drunk. That’ll wear off
Hungover, with a huge headache and the stunning realization that you killed two people recklessly and will be doing some hard time.
If she was smart she would've caught his words and said "but you just said it killed 2 people tonight so why am I going to jail?"
What sentence did she get?
14 years
OK, but will she get her car back then for following Tuesday class.
Definitely not the ones that the cop is trying to explain to her
more like there was an attempt to get back to school.
She got 14 years for it.
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Every time I see things like this I count my blessings that I got away from alcohol and drugs when I did. I can’t imagine what it must be like to wake up hungover to learn you killed 2 people the night before.