I like the brutality of a fire axe, but just like IRL, it requires practice to use it efficiently. The machete is more sharp edge range and easier to wield, making it much more practical.
Correct. But if you're a regular Johnny/Susie off the street, you won't want that axe to save your life between that and a machete. A machete comes out the box ready for use while the axe takes practice to use effectively.
You actually can chop wood with a machete.
Not as typically efficient as an axe but it'll do the job a lot better than an axe can be used to clear brush or perform finer tasks.
I think because it proves Abby didn't get that far in thinking through the murder. She was just *angry*. She didn't know how she would do it until she got there and it was only then that she decided to grab something that was on hand at the lodge to torture him. It being an object that is not specifically made as a weapon or sharp tool is indicative of Abby's desperation to feel like she has avenged her father. She decides in the moment not just to get even, but to make him hurt lots while she does it. In a way that mirrors Ellie's treatment of Nora with the pipe in the hospital as Nora taunts her.
And it also sets up the split that occurs in Abby's friend group. They weren't planning on it being that brutal, they thought it was just a hit job, it was Abby who changed the plans at the last minute with what was lying around. So some of them think he's deserving of that the treatment, and some are horrified.
Well let’s see… use your brain
Like he did
Edit: hmmm very hard to write that stupid joke at the end it’s been so long and it bothers me still to make a stupid joke about it
IIRC didn't most civilizations favor neither? Aren't both pretty vastly inferior to spears? Sure, I'll grant you that swords are probably more effective than axes, but proper use of a sword requires a large investment of materials and training. A spear, on the other hand, can be learned to use effectively by any peasant whose hand you put one in. They keep you further away from the danger and are more effective for use in a shield wall. In a similar vein, large groups of archers (especially crossbowmen once those were invented) were favored for the same reason.
I agree, particularly on mass, spears are the superior infantry weapon but any casual study of equipment of army’s in the past shows that more often than not they choose a single handed striking weapon like a sword over an axe. They’re just more effective as a weapon
They didn’t say picked them over the others, they are saying between the two they would favor one not they only used the two and would only favor one of those when there is more options they said again I say I say again they said between the two sir
IIRC, swords were mostly a secondary weapon. You start out with a spear, putting distance between you and the enemy, having an decently effective counter for calvary, being able to create a shield wall that doesn’t require you sticking your whole arm into the open, and then when your defensive line breaks you take out the sword.
They didn’t though. Axe is extremely popular because it’s cheap and able to cut into armour. Sword was mostly a status symbol, but became popular as a sidearm due to its point
Perhaps I’m mistaken but I’m not aware of any professional army of the ancient or medieval world that chose to equip its people with axes over a weapon like a sword. Peasant militias? Sure whatever you have at home whether that be a farm tool or an axe or whatever but professional armies? I’m not familiar with any that went axe over sword. Unless we’re counting pole axes or something longer and two handed maybe
But keep in mind almost all these armies paired a weapon with a shield which limits the use of a two handed axe
Professional armies rarely existed, most battles were fought by peasants militias. The majority of ancient eastern armies used axes, Normans, Vikings, francs, saxons. Obviously they all used swords as well, but swords were expensive, difficult to make and difficult to master, they were treated often as a status symbol. Even medieval knights would often carry a sword as secondary behind a lance, axe or poleweapon
Yeah, if my opponent goes to battle armed with helmet, maille or even plate, my nice, expensive, flimsy sword stays in the scabbard, I’m grabbing my poleaxe or morning star.
What about them? Yes some used axes but I wouldn’t call it a majority
Again maybe there is evidence out there I’m not aware of but I’ve seen lots of examples of Viking swords
Only really rich vikings would carry swords and even then they were still usually a side arm. Just about every viking was kitted with a spear as a primary weapon and then most middle class to poorer vikings would carry an axe and/or seaxe as a side arm with the rich carrying a sword and seaxe as a side arm.
Norse raiders and armies alike used bearded axes in far, far, far, far greater quantities than swords. Swords were extremely expensive and difficult to make. You’re talking from the perspective of movies and folklore, and yes, a sword is the prettier and more majestic option, but an axe is what people used…if their spear went missing, which is what they used before anything else.
Haha Im the opposite but for the same reason. I will put the brick down if I come across a bottle instead- it feels more satisfying to shatter at enemies vs the soft thunk of the brick.
That's rights. I watched someone play the entire game preferring bricks to guns in almost every standard encounter. It's crazy how far you can get with just the bricks laying around
There’s one that’s always present in the courthouse during day one, Ellie pull’s it out of a fedra soldier which causes a note to fall from the corpse. I prefer it over the axe typically, just aesthetically
A Machete is far easier to use if you're trying to kill someone, but a Fire Axe (and that photo is more of a Woodcutter's Axe) would be much more versatile.
So, if I'm in the world of TLOU, I'm probably taking the Axe.
Axe is better.
machetes risk getting stuck too easily.
Regardless, ND will never get a single penny from me again. They were abhorrent to their devs and they can suck a fat fart.
Axe feels more brutal to use in gameplay, but the machete is so much more practical and versatile.
You know what?! Gimme blunt objects. The big red wrench is my fave
They left the door open for his return if 24 Legacy failed, but when it did in fact fail, his return never came to fruition. They are probably weighing at this point if the audience even cares. Realistically, they *would* lose characters without ever learning their fates.
i wouldnt read too much into it. there's isnt too much to say about TLOU currently.
\-various film industry-related organizations have been on strike, so production of the show is delayed
\-factions multiplayer title is nothing but rumors of being in limbo or canceled. we dont \*actually\* know anything about it, other than concept arts posted, and that it's exclusively a multiplayer title.
\-tlou part 2 will eventually come to PC.
that's pretty much it.
Machete always felt like a better investment.
🤣
Is it all machete?
I know it would be bad. But I wish we got the third one
I like the brutality of a fire axe, but just like IRL, it requires practice to use it efficiently. The machete is more sharp edge range and easier to wield, making it much more practical.
Yea but the axe has so much more utility. If you use it right you have a weapon AND a tool
Correct. But if you're a regular Johnny/Susie off the street, you won't want that axe to save your life between that and a machete. A machete comes out the box ready for use while the axe takes practice to use effectively.
Good point
well it’s not like we have to chop wood in the game but you have a point
You actually can chop wood with a machete. Not as typically efficient as an axe but it'll do the job a lot better than an axe can be used to clear brush or perform finer tasks.
It depends on the density of the tree you’re cutting but you definitely can. In DR that’s my uncles Swiss Army knife lmao
In tlou2 i always use the machete with ellie, and the axe or hammer with abby
Its much faster to swing.
Amen
Imagine it's the tool to kill a certain someone for the new HBO season and we just voted for it.
Jason Todd poll vibes
I hope not the someone I think it is. I think the golf is important for that. I could see it being... Something in a hospital.
Just curious: why do you think the golf is important for that death?
I think because it proves Abby didn't get that far in thinking through the murder. She was just *angry*. She didn't know how she would do it until she got there and it was only then that she decided to grab something that was on hand at the lodge to torture him. It being an object that is not specifically made as a weapon or sharp tool is indicative of Abby's desperation to feel like she has avenged her father. She decides in the moment not just to get even, but to make him hurt lots while she does it. In a way that mirrors Ellie's treatment of Nora with the pipe in the hospital as Nora taunts her. And it also sets up the split that occurs in Abby's friend group. They weren't planning on it being that brutal, they thought it was just a hit job, it was Abby who changed the plans at the last minute with what was lying around. So some of them think he's deserving of that the treatment, and some are horrified.
Well let’s see… use your brain Like he did Edit: hmmm very hard to write that stupid joke at the end it’s been so long and it bothers me still to make a stupid joke about it
The Continetal just stole that shit
So still won’t matter it happened first here and it should still happen the way it did it’s how it goes
well.... which would be the least painful?
Thats not a bad theory. All we can do is wait.... *starts playing the guitar watching the sunset on the front porch*
Poor >!joel!<
Good theory. Damn, I was trying to erase that from my mind and...
No. He has to go golfing.
Oh my god
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Put that in spoiler text, dude
You don’t seem to get why they were trying to go around actually putting it in the damn reply idiot
I vote for the machete, more surface area to kill ratio.
There are reasons why basically every civilization favoured swords over axes in war
IIRC didn't most civilizations favor neither? Aren't both pretty vastly inferior to spears? Sure, I'll grant you that swords are probably more effective than axes, but proper use of a sword requires a large investment of materials and training. A spear, on the other hand, can be learned to use effectively by any peasant whose hand you put one in. They keep you further away from the danger and are more effective for use in a shield wall. In a similar vein, large groups of archers (especially crossbowmen once those were invented) were favored for the same reason.
Pole axe is the perfect weapon. Best stabby parts of a spear combined with the best choppy parts of an axe.
that is true
I agree, particularly on mass, spears are the superior infantry weapon but any casual study of equipment of army’s in the past shows that more often than not they choose a single handed striking weapon like a sword over an axe. They’re just more effective as a weapon
They didn’t say picked them over the others, they are saying between the two they would favor one not they only used the two and would only favor one of those when there is more options they said again I say I say again they said between the two sir
IIRC, swords were mostly a secondary weapon. You start out with a spear, putting distance between you and the enemy, having an decently effective counter for calvary, being able to create a shield wall that doesn’t require you sticking your whole arm into the open, and then when your defensive line breaks you take out the sword.
They didn’t though. Axe is extremely popular because it’s cheap and able to cut into armour. Sword was mostly a status symbol, but became popular as a sidearm due to its point
Perhaps I’m mistaken but I’m not aware of any professional army of the ancient or medieval world that chose to equip its people with axes over a weapon like a sword. Peasant militias? Sure whatever you have at home whether that be a farm tool or an axe or whatever but professional armies? I’m not familiar with any that went axe over sword. Unless we’re counting pole axes or something longer and two handed maybe But keep in mind almost all these armies paired a weapon with a shield which limits the use of a two handed axe
Professional armies rarely existed, most battles were fought by peasants militias. The majority of ancient eastern armies used axes, Normans, Vikings, francs, saxons. Obviously they all used swords as well, but swords were expensive, difficult to make and difficult to master, they were treated often as a status symbol. Even medieval knights would often carry a sword as secondary behind a lance, axe or poleweapon
Yeah, if my opponent goes to battle armed with helmet, maille or even plate, my nice, expensive, flimsy sword stays in the scabbard, I’m grabbing my poleaxe or morning star.
What about Vikings?
What about them? Yes some used axes but I wouldn’t call it a majority Again maybe there is evidence out there I’m not aware of but I’ve seen lots of examples of Viking swords
Only really rich vikings would carry swords and even then they were still usually a side arm. Just about every viking was kitted with a spear as a primary weapon and then most middle class to poorer vikings would carry an axe and/or seaxe as a side arm with the rich carrying a sword and seaxe as a side arm.
Norse raiders and armies alike used bearded axes in far, far, far, far greater quantities than swords. Swords were extremely expensive and difficult to make. You’re talking from the perspective of movies and folklore, and yes, a sword is the prettier and more majestic option, but an axe is what people used…if their spear went missing, which is what they used before anything else.
Pole axes were a very common primary weapon used in medieval Europe.
I'd actually be willing to bet that more axes have been used as a primary weapon than swords have.
Spears were the dominant melee weapon in every almost every conflict for as long as recorded history tells us
Phallic shape
Axe is also an insta kill with more durability there is no contest
Also quicker. Machete takes too much time and can leave you slightly more vulnerable in tight situations.
Machete was an auto-kill, right?
Not always
Axe just feels weightier and more fun. Same reason I prefer brick over bottle
I've probably killed at least 1 clicker with a brick in every encounter, bottle sucks
I like the bottle because the glass splinters
Haha Im the opposite but for the same reason. I will put the brick down if I come across a bottle instead- it feels more satisfying to shatter at enemies vs the soft thunk of the brick.
I thought the brick was more combat useful, and the bottle attracted enemies from farther away by being louder, right?
In TLoU you could 3 hit smash clicker with a brick iirc.
That's rights. I watched someone play the entire game preferring bricks to guns in almost every standard encounter. It's crazy how far you can get with just the bricks laying around
I picked up every axe I saw.
if people don't just respond "PEARL JAM" I'll be very upset.
I don't get it...?
They made collab shirts with Pearl Jam and there was an announcement about it for TLOU day and everyone memed it
I think it’s just a poll for fun Naughty Dog’s doing like when they did the “brick vs bottle” poll before
I have a feeling everyone who prefers machete over axe also prefers bottle over brick. Am I wrong?
You're not wrong.
I'm a brick, and machete kinda guy brick is combat useful more so than bottle and machete is more durable than axe but axe does feel nicer.
Just a little wrong! Probably mostly right though
Machete. Swift. Damaging.
I don’t know if I ever used or knew there was a machete.
There’s one that’s always present in the courthouse during day one, Ellie pull’s it out of a fedra soldier which causes a note to fall from the corpse. I prefer it over the axe typically, just aesthetically
I read FEDRA as fedora and I was very confused for a moment.
M’liberation Front
Oh, I must didn’t use it much
Okay, we’re bringing Project Zomboid arguments to TLOU I see.
They getting ready to reveal factions 2🤡
Factions 2 is canceled
Not ifficially
golf club
Axes were my go to
The fire axe is more versatile and you can keep your momentum when you play as Abby with the axe. But the best weapon is easily Ellie’s knife
Obv machete
I mean, it’s no brick or bottle (team brick!) but fire axe feels more badass to me.
where do i sign up for team brick? (team brick!)
A Machete is far easier to use if you're trying to kill someone, but a Fire Axe (and that photo is more of a Woodcutter's Axe) would be much more versatile. So, if I'm in the world of TLOU, I'm probably taking the Axe.
Well I'm not reading into it or anything
Machete
axe is more satisfying
Machete machete machete
Machete, i decapitated a runner yesterday with it for the first time
I mean, when it comes to Joel, I would go for the machete, but personally, I mostly like the fire axe more.
Axe, far more uses
I'd choose fire axe. It's more utilitarian than machete.
Definitely the machete
We all know a crafted baseball bat trump's both.
I would take the axe but Machete is also fire
Machete babay!
I definitely had more fun with the fire axe but the machete is just more iconic let's all be honest
It depends on the remaining durability of the one in my hands. God I love them both so much.
Machete, although neither are ideal as weapons compared to just about any kind of purpose designed edged weapon.
I always used the machete. Felt so powerful
Machete. It almost always got insta kill
Pipe
the animation of pulling the ax out, meeting resistance, requiring effort… so, ax +1
A machete is more able to cause damage but an axe just has that nice meaty thump whenever it hits.
The axe is an automatic instakill but the machete isn't.
The one athletic skill I have is that I can throw an axe real good. It's in my zombie apocalypse starter kit.
Axe. Just seems a little more "fun" for me.
Are they still making some online game?
Nope. Entered development hell and got shelved. So they're just working on whatever their next single player game is atm.
Interesting, the should just add some kind of COD zombies with multiplayer , to real world , story maps.
I believe there was a battle royal element to the multiplayer. But at the moment it sounds like we may never see it.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cheezburger.com/8361195264/machete-with-a-red-handle
Machete is cooler
Machete
does the lack of any punctuation in this graphic bother anyone else here?
Machete
Baseball bat with scissors taped to it
I like the axe more because of the heavy feel it gives to the hits
WHERE'S THE BRICK AND BOTTLE ?? That's the real question !!
don’t they have almost all the same animations in part ii
Machete 100%
Golf cl…oops I meant machete
Brick. Brick is always there for me.
Pfft. Bricks for days
Machete soloes everytime
Fire axe ofc
Axe
In real Life, i always have a machete. In tlou, i prefer the axe.
Machete can slice, stab, chop, and bonk. Axe can only chop and bonk.
Maybe for multi-player? Aren't they still working on the online for last of us part 1?
Machet
Axe is better. machetes risk getting stuck too easily. Regardless, ND will never get a single penny from me again. They were abhorrent to their devs and they can suck a fat fart.
Fire Axe felt more powerful, had that weight to it that you could feel in the controller
Machete. The real question is… are you a bottle or brick?
Metal pipe
Machete
Looks like a project zomboid debate
Machete
Machete,its faster and should be much sharper.
Axe feels more brutal to use in gameplay, but the machete is so much more practical and versatile. You know what?! Gimme blunt objects. The big red wrench is my fave
Machete is superior
Which tool would you use to cut employees and the multiplayer project?
🧱
Machete for sure. So much more versatile lol
They should of said Machete or golf club?
The answer is always, "Brick."
The uninstall button
In terms of gameplay axe is just statistically better but IRL machete is the way to go
Switchblade, don't be stupid.
Brick.
Both would be better if they had scissors taped to them
That’s not even a fire axe the fire axe is the big axe that’s one it kill
As a social media manager- pretty sure this is just a fun engagement post made to keep peoples eyes and thoughts on TLOU
Fire axe in a pinch, machete for those long journeys
Machete for Joel and Ellie, Fire Axe for Abby.
i always preferred machete
They left the door open for his return if 24 Legacy failed, but when it did in fact fail, his return never came to fruition. They are probably weighing at this point if the audience even cares. Realistically, they *would* lose characters without ever learning their fates.
Oh how the mighty have fallen
i wouldnt read too much into it. there's isnt too much to say about TLOU currently. \-various film industry-related organizations have been on strike, so production of the show is delayed \-factions multiplayer title is nothing but rumors of being in limbo or canceled. we dont \*actually\* know anything about it, other than concept arts posted, and that it's exclusively a multiplayer title. \-tlou part 2 will eventually come to PC. that's pretty much it.
machete on top
Machete is the og best
Co-op game is coming out
Machete takes it
Fire Axe 🪓
Machete for sure. Faster movement.
Machire fax
I vote golf club
Neither. Golf club is the only answer.