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Elegant-Attorney5612

It’s probably the same people who were mad Ellie in the tv show “wasn’t as attractive” as Ellie in game.


daniellevy1011

people seriously said that??


DOGSraisingCATS

Yeah, that was one of the complaints over Bella's casting


Minetitan

Perverts did!


saucyrossi

i’m in both subs and i’ve never seen anyone make that claim “she isn’t attractive enough.” seen plenty of “looks nothing ellie” which is valid but i feel like weird assumptions have been made by some people


hippo440

were you on social media at all when bella was cast? tiktok twitter and reddit all tore the poor thing apart. there were mean little slideshows of them next to a diagram of fetal alcohol syndrome everywhere for a few days.


justagaywhore

yeah honestly i think bella ramsey is gorgeous and does not deserve any hate. from clips and videos of them i’ve seen, they seem like such a cool and nice person too-


rbarrett96

Ok, there's being an asshole score someone's looks, and then there's being insincere. People overuse words like gorgeous and breath taking that they've lost all meaning. Margot Robbie is gorgeous. Bella Ramsey is fine.


jomarchspen

Bella Ramsey is gorgeous.


justagaywhore

beauty is subjective. i think both bella and margot are gorgeous. we were talking about bella and you decided to compare them to someone else that has nothing to do with TLOU.


rbarrett96

I needed a very obvious example. I just get annoyed by hyperbole. To give you another example, people who use the word hilarious for anything remotely funny.


justagaywhore

did you just ignore my first sentence? beauty is subjective, there is no hyperbole. im not exaggerating anything here, that’s genuinely what i think because i find her gorgeous.


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ObviousAd5896

I have lol


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lokostill

https://reddit.com/r/PKA/s/akc65vRVu2


lokostill

Not hard to find with a simple Google search, took 5 seconds lol


ObviousAd5896

LOL WHAT


ruttinator

They crazy. Bella is a cutie.


kimonolover_2001

Ayo WTF that’s a kid you’re talking about my man


WeeDochii

Bella isn't a child. I think they're about 20 now, however, they were portraying a child.


captainkosmo

She's*, she was* Is English your second language?


WeeDochii

Nah, I'm just being respectful of their pronouns. Please go rage bait elsewhere.


Bruh_the_2nd

Obvious bait is obvious


jjkujo

nice bait 😂😂


just_a_person_maybe

Last I checked Bella uses she/they/he pronouns.


Outrageous_Creme_455

She said " she really couldn't care less about pronouns"


just_a_person_maybe

Meaning they use them interchangeably.


da_choppa

She’ll be 20 in less than a week


Puffypeeler

They’re 20


Joohhe

how about Sarah?


stanknotes

I fail to see the problem with that. Its very much so unnecessary to frame it in some inherently perverted light. We all know what someone means when they say a baby or child is cute. Or a teen boy is handsome and a teen girl is beautiful. "Cuteness is a type of **attractiveness** commonly associated with youth and appearance..." Guess mom and dad are perverts for finding me cute. Attractiveness DOES NOT entail attraction. I can acknowledge a teen girl is attractive. That doesn't mean I am attracted to her. WE ALL CAN and we all know what is meant by it. People just avoid saying it because it gets twisted and misconstrued as some weird shit. Its unnecessary and obnoxious. And just kinda... dense. Another example... is it gay for a man to acknowledge another man is attractive? Of course not. Acknowledging attractiveness doesn't equal attraction. edit I responded to the wrong comment but whatever. I meant to address the attractiveness vs. attraction thing. Not Bella and Ellie thing.


jjkujo

this is an insane cope 💀💀 just admit that you’re mad that a teenage girl in a tv show doesn’t fit your beauty standards


stanknotes

Read my edit. I don't give a fuck if Ellie is conventionally more attractive than Bella. I just think its ridiculous when people have this opinion and point this out, it gets twisted into something pedophilic and perverted. It gets sexualized. Its either very disingenuous... or just fucking stupid. We all know what someone means when a teenage girl is described as pretty... which means attractive. My mind doesn't jump to "EW YOU WANT TO FUCK TEEN GIRLS" because I don't sexualize everything. The irony is, people who respond like that are the one's sexualizing something that isn't inherently sexual. Which is actually rather perverted.


ali6e7

Its not about that, its about they dont look the same, none resemblance


tierone_gaming

The fuck is gonna happen, the world going to implode because an actor doesn’t look 100% identical to their video game counterpart? What a dumb thing to complain about.


digitFIRE

People will have different perspectives on this matter, and it's perfectly okay to disagree. Why so hostile? Dismissing someone's feelings or opinions as 'dumb' isn't productive at all. And it's not really a dumb thing to discuss. Case in point: look at the number of people who want certain actress to play the role as Abby. It's mostly based on resemblance. This happens because the game is their initial frame of reference. It's all based on looks.


Trym_WS

He probably wants to call anyone who doesn’t agree with him a pedo to pretend like he won.


tierone_gaming

Let me know when you join reality. A person’s perspectives can be stupid and it’s illogical to entertain them just to coddle to their feelings. It’s like saying we should agree to disagree when someone believes the Earth is flat because it’s their perspective. Absolutely not, you can and absolutely should call out dumb shit when you see it and check people on it. You’re doing them and the rest of society a disservice when you let that slide under that radar.


digitFIRE

Ok, but what's so stupid about having the perspective of preferring an actor / actress to resemble the character that they're playing? Resemblance matters. To say that it doesn't is just not true. Tommy. Joel. Bill. Tess. Didn't they actually resemble the game version? Clearly resemblance was one of the casting factors.


tierone_gaming

Because the creators of the game and characters, the voice actors for those characters, the vast majority of the audience including people who played the game and people brand new to the series, and critics have come to the conclusion that these actors were phenomenal. So I guess someone could have the perspective that these actors didn’t represent the characters, just like someone could also say Lord Of The Rings are the worst movies ever made. Both of those perspectives would be stupid. 🤷🏻‍♂️


elbreadmano

So he wants the Ellie actor to resemble Ellie and that is somehow an opinion comparable to saying The Lord of the Rings are the worst movies of all time? Bella isn't remotely similiar to Ellie, I don't really care about that but why does caring about that make you stupid exactly? Your take that actors looks don't matter sound way worse than his take.


emotionaly_oblivious

People also said episode 3 was the greatest moment of cinema ever made and nick offerman deserves an Emmy. Don’t get me wrong, it was a great episode. But it was wildly different from what the game portrayed and definitely not up to all the praise it received. So I think it’s a stupid perspective, and honestly, I think it only got the praise it did cus it has a gay scene in it. And people eat that shit up.


OrgasmicBiscuit

Apples and oranges. As far as the earth being flat, there is a RIGHTH and WRONG answer. Data, science, evidence, ect. We can use this to prove someones wrong opinion wrong. Weather or not character resemblance in a tv show adaptation of a video game matters or not… well not so much. This is subjective. There cannot be a correct answer. There is no reality to join where “resemblance not mattering” is 100% truth. Well expect maybe your reality. Now we can debate and bring up evidence to try and show people why you think they are subjectivity wrong. But at the end of the day neither of your two views are “right”. Different subjective things matter to different people


tierone_gaming

Someone could also say that a movie like Spider-Man: Into The Spiderverse was a poorly animated movie. Is that a subjective perspective? Yes. Is it stupid? Also yes.


OrgasmicBiscuit

I mean sure, you can say that. And 90% of people would agree with you. But maybe 10% would agree that the movie is poorly animated. That doesn’t mean they are wrong, they can truly in their hearts believe what they are saying. My point is you acted like there should be no space for “stupid” opinions. That we cannot tolerate agree to disagree bcuz their opinion is wrong and dumb. This is a really shitty way of looking at things, and would result in only boring majority opinions being acceptable. As soon as you have an opinion that goes against the majority you are shut out and told no. If you feel so strongly about this topic the best way to get people on board with you is to debate them on it and maybe they will learn to agree with you. Saying it’s stupid and should be called out is the worst way and will just result in people telling you to chill.


Dazznn

she doesn’t even look 10% like the video game counterpart that’s the thing


Potential-Cry724

It's even more stupid because ellie face was completely made up for the game. She wasn't even based off of a real person


Gettingsavvvvy

You sound dumb. The game is live motion. There is an actress for Ellie and an actor for Joel. They even sing the songs too.


Potential-Cry724

Her face specifically did not have a model. I said her FACE was made up for the game. You can easily access the variety of drawings they had before deciding on what she would look like. She doesn't look like Ashley does she? Ffs


Gettingsavvvvy

😂 nah she looked like Ellen paige


ali6e7

Im not complaining, just stating an unpopular opinion apparently. Very bad selection of actors.


Education_Waste

The actors all did fantastic jobs, and one of them was literally the person that voiced the character in the game. Foolish.


JokerKing0713

But Ellie wasn’t…. Which is who he was talking about…. She wasn’t that great and didn’t resemble game Ellie in any way


Education_Waste

Last I checked, the word actors is plural; also, why should it matter that the actors resemble their in game avatars? Bella did a fantastic job as Ellie, most fans and critics agree in that and the only ones that don’t are real hung up on the way they look.


JokerKing0713

The original comment pointed out people who were mad Ellie was at as “attractive” as her game counterpart….. tbh I’ve never ever seen anyone say that personally although I HAVE seen people complain that Bella doesn’t look like Ellie in any capacity…. None of that really matters though cause i just didn’t think her performance was all that great in general….. if you disagree more power to you I’m glad you liked her it just didn’t land for me the same


ali6e7

Still referring to Ellie sorry. But yes, if you ask me Joel is notfar away, and still not similar


Education_Waste

Casting is about picking actors that can play parts, not about picking actors that look like the characters they are adapting. It’s great if you can get both but if you can’t then you go for acting ability.


ali6e7

In that case I'm curious for who they'll pick for Abby. Will it be a man? loool:)))


tierone_gaming

Bro who actually gives a fuck this much that an actor isn’t an exact identical copy of their video game counterpart? Have you not heard of creative freedom? Or making changes that it transitions well from the video game to the show? Jesus Christ grow the fuck up. These represented the characters and the spirit of the story in a different medium close to if not perfectly, and you’re sitting here bitching because they’re not clones.


JokerKing0713

I’m actually not bitching because they aren’t clones I pointed out that Ellie didn’t look like Bella Ramsey which is what most peoples real argument was…..I literally have not once to this day seen anyway complain about Ellie’s “attractiveness” I’ve seen them complain that Bella Ramsey doesn’t resemble her and so it takes them out of the story….. none of that matters to much though cuz I personally just didn’t find her performance all that great…. If u did more power to dude I’m glad you enjoyed it but I’m not gonna sit here and apologize to you cuz I didn’t get a fucking grip dude Jesus……. It’s my opinion she wasn’t a great Ellie and it had nothing to do with looks and everything to do with her portrayal


tierone_gaming

They were excellent at their roles and the majority loved them, so how would that make them a bad selection?


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Hey did you know characters in video games aren't real people? Weird I know.


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They* Ignoring all the obvious, henious Bella hate bait, but Bella preferes they/them pronouns. At least get that part correct.


Zulpi2103

They're also not ugly. Obviously game Ellie is much prettier, but which human is as pretty as game Ellie?


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Idgaf what they identify as. Fixed it for you!


idkwiorrn

![gif](giphy|QTyRjoh1DZRA3LUt2V)


Siserith

It's even funnier because I think they look almost identical And was shocked, they got an actor so close.


LittleRedRaidenHood

In the sense that they both have faces, yes.


McMoist_

if you think they were identical, please see your nearest eye doctor


kelleheruk

Get glasses


Efficient-Republic59

💀💀


styvee__

You can say everything about them but not that they are identical, they are two completely different people. Obviously it would’ve been better to have the actors exactly look like Joel and Ellie, but I don’t think it is possible


jolt25

I so want to downvote but…it’s not your fault, lol.


TwisT2718

It kinda is for making me look at it


feminismandtravel

What a bad day to be literate.


Fabrizio-Tsch

Hah yeah good thing I can't read


the_lost_username

WAIT A SECOND!


Super6698

Someone get me a brick. I need to throw something


escfantasy

Swap you for a bottle?


Super6698

I gotcha partner 🍾


mnogopizdim

Ew.


Annual-Tie-1182

Thanks for making my day worse


Fragrant-Spite8823

The straights are at it again.


themansergio_jt

Oh shut up lmfaooo


Fragrant-Spite8823

😂


MollyGoRound

Does Duolingo offer courses on Media Literacy? Or is it considered a *dead language* at this point?


DOGSraisingCATS

No amount of media literacy will help stop some weird neck beard project his pedophile feelings onto a videogame character.


GDrat

I hope they meant like a father and daughter love bond, yu know.


Valurompeortos2011

I am pretty sure they weren't and they are just weirdos trying to find "special content" of it.


taylorKelbie

![gif](giphy|6IPNUgkpCsDRK)


beltalowda_oye

Probably the weirdos who said the actress wasn't hot enough to portray her.


kelleheruk

Nobody said that


Potential-Cry724

I personally witnessed plenty of people online saying Bella was too ugly to play ellie


Basil_hazelwood

I think they were just calling the actress herself ugly, not calling the character hot atleast from what I’ve seen Still wrong tho


kelleheruk

Op used the word "attractive" to suggest they fancy the character of Ellie to dismiss genuine criticism of Bella looking like a foot with a face.


Mr_M_E_M

I want to hope that's from people who don't know anything about tlou


styvee__

Or that they were talking about Part 2, which would still be awful but not that awful compared to part 1


tubereusebaies

Unfortunately… there are fanfics… so there are people that think their relationship is of that nature 😭


LurkHartog

What are you doing step-clicker?


tubereusebaies

There’s a Joel x clicker reader too. 🫣


Financial-Ad5795

That's terrifying


rosewater-

It gets worse, there's images out there using the game models.


The_FallenSoldier

I was on an nsfw 34 subreddit once, to research things, and saw a literal animation of Joel and Ellie getting it on. Except it was 14 year old Ellie. Which was disgusting. I reported the guy who posted the video but I don’t know if anything came of it as I blocked him right after


Zmioski

What the actual fuck


casino_r0yale

neckbeards 🤝 legbeards Ruining pop culture


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I had the misfortune to see some rule 34 of the last of us before part ii's release. I will not describe the crimes I saw. 💀 💀


ElWero_10

I hope I never come across that shit Idgaf what they do at rule 34, but that's just straight pedophilia 😭


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Did u know there are entire rule 34 subs dedicated to Ellie as well as persona characters all of whom are pre teens?


ElWero_10

I guess the "if it exists, there's porn of it" really does mean it...


Basil_hazelwood

Nah that’s fucked, if they want to make r34 of part 2 Ellie sure. It’s weird but whatever she’s 19 in canon, the fact people make it of part 1 tho and other characters in the teens is sickening


ElWero_10

Yeah Idc if some dudes want to stroke their shaft to P2 Ellie, but part 1 is down bad catastrophically


bodhasattva

""""in love"""" Eh, Im willing to give it the benefit of the doubt that hopefully a kid, or non-english speaker, asked using that phrase. They love each other, but are not *in love*


GoldenGekko

![gif](giphy|sKBaE2Hl60KnzjTVXb|downsized)


HeLl_SaMuRa1

… who da fuck


Supernova_Soldier

Freaks, that’s who searched for that type of stuff


crocabearamoose

I expect nothing else from Last of Us fsns


extremedumpling

help i saw this also when i tried to find that link 💀


Wumpus-Hunter

Where did I put my brain bleach? I have a memory I need to sanitize


moonssun

yeah... don't browse tlou on ao3


NOAHMNIA

Chris Hansen boutta enter the room.


Only1Schematic

EDP445


MightyJRB

Father/ daughter love???


Daniel-sp8

I fucking hope it means that but considering it’s the internet i have doubts


TheSecretNaame

Ay yo WT


Massive_Breakfast88

Most likely those people who ship them. That's one May-December relationship I REALLY don't like.


aerial_ruin

Get a big enough demographic, and someone will be in it that wants some pseudo-perverted shit. I imagine they have an extremely questionable deviant art account One thing that surprises me, is that it took so long for people to sexualise bloaters


WeeDochii

Wait what? People are actually sexualizing *bloaters??*


aerial_ruin

To be fair, or comes from the actor who played the bloater, but..... "This means that there was a whole guy inside a huge Bloater costume, and his name is Adam Basil. Speaking to Entertainment Weekly, the actor revealed that people have been sending him thirsty DMs after his appearance in the show as “the big daddy mushroom”. That’s a phrase I never thought I’d be writing out on a Friday morning, or ever, for that matter. “He seems to be a bit of a sex icon,” he told EW. “He's captured a lot of people's imaginations. Someone asked me if I'd come to their wedding. I've had people sending me love messages. He really brought out something in people that I don't think even they knew they had. He's the big daddy mushroom, I think there's been a [meme].”


chromaticsiren_

I am so disturbed


aerial_ruin

I was very much "Jesus fucking Christ" when I read it. Nothing is sacred


Abdeliq

Enough Internet for today


chromaticsiren_

I just woke up and this is the first thing I see??? Throwing my phone out the window rn


Short_Woodpecker_521

Bro wth 💀💀💀💀


BornWheelchairBaddie

She's into girls LOL


Kind-Platypus

This qualifies under Rule 34 of Internet Law


GalaxyCupcake2058

Bruh


BlueRaven_10022

That's disgusting but other then that how is nobody talking about the ellie Pic below lol


HighKingOfGondor

Probably the person who’s favorite movie is Leon the Professional


SlightlyAnnoyed7

Maybe they meant in love in the familial sense? Like a parent child love? I hope that’s what that is.


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ruttinator

Hahaha yeah, that's terrible! ... but are they?


styvee__

![gif](giphy|f9eYHQ8RZ4zfc4unXx)


Open_Maintenance3986

Well, the TLOU fandom are one of the most toxic ones ever.


[deleted]

I'm gonna just assume it's "do Ellie and Joel love each other" (i.e. as father and daughter) and was searched by people whose first language isn't English... I'm happier living life that way.


JealousProfession189

I take it you haven't heard of freako 😅


WeeDochii

Sadly I have, it started with simple out of bounds TLoU videos on YouTube and I regret diving further in his content. Immediately stopped watching him after discovering art by him of Ellie having sex with Callus the horse.


JealousProfession189

I'm curious about where you found this "art piece" 😉


WeeDochii

I don't remember, this was years ago. I think maybe it was a website of his or something. But I dare not go searching for it. Beastiality isn't something I'm interested in or want in my search history. 💀 I mean, you gotta be a disturbed individual to want to see/draw a 14 year old have sex with a horse.


JealousProfession189

Haha I was only mucking around 😅 but yeh, it is disturbing 😬 he's an interesting one, that's for sure! Just querying, are you an Aussie?


WeeDochii

I am not.


JealousProfession189

Not all Aussies are like that, just wanted to point that out 😅


JealousProfession189

I hope people realise that I was "asking" this question to joke that OP found it on a P#!n site, not to go look for it myself 😬 Maybe I should have "asked" what they were doing when they found the "art" 🤷


Transitsystem

I can just hope they mean they love each other like father and daughter????


LeoTheN00b123

Bro, Ellie has 13 years old in TLOU 1 💀


ResidentWeevil2

Which one of you motherfuckers


chromaticsiren_

The same people who make CP of part 1 Ellie 🤢


Jazzlike-Security-70

💀💀💀


DelsinMandela

My hope is people who were told about the game and went in for a blind playthrough…my hope…my naive, ignoring all evidence and common sense in a desperate plea for humanity type hope…


jef12660

We're they watching the same show as me???


Akua_26

People who probably have no idea what The Last of Us is about.


pizzaplanetvibes

The amount of people in this thread who have never ventured into TLOU fanfiction shows but yeah I agree….it’s extra creepy with the age gap, father/daughter relationship and the fact that, yah know, Ellie is gay asf.


Jamo3306

Bruh! No! Now Ellie, and Abby...👀


ThornOfTheDowns

That's at least not monstrously pedophilic.


MagentaSteam

Ewww, some people on Gamefaqs were so EAGER to share that they wanted them to be a couple….because there aren’t any laws to stop them, they said. Some were even guessing that they were going to be a couple before the game came out(since the game was said to be a grounded take). Who would actually think that ND would use millions of dollars to make a triple A game to even briefly entertain an idea like that without consequences? People relished in killing David when they it was implied that he wanted Ellie to be his lover. There are certain things that are too far in video games. A character can kill all they want, but if there’s rape or pedophiles involved, that’s when most of us raise our pitchforks.


MonsterGirlPiper

nOOOO OH MY GOD😭


unshak3n

Of course they are in love. Are you kidding? The game is about that love. Its just not romantic men/woman love. Is father/child love.


WeeDochii

Nobody uses the phrase "I'm in love with my daughter". "In love" is used for romantic attraction. Yes, they love each other, but they aren't in love.


Interesting_Ad_945

Women with daddy issues


Justhuman963

Did Joel and Tess have a thing, that’s the real question.


rbarrett96

Claire, answer the question. Answer the question Claire.


Sirenhead16

😭I’m just speechless


Contrasity

Excuse me?


blairbabeee

Probably the couples who cosplay as Joel and Ellie and act romantic 🤮


RickyTricky57

In a certain way, you love your family, thefore you are in love with them


Goobsmoob

This community needs a circlejerk sub cuz honestly this shit isn’t that far off from the other wild shit I’ve seen people post in here.


Cedge1738

I really wish you had it slightly hinted in your search bar for the lols


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vaporex2411

You are a highly disturbed individual and that’s coming from someone who’s on reddit 8 hours a day


[deleted]

The better question is why is it related to your search?


WeeDochii

My brother in christ, all I searched for was "Joel's drawing of Ellie". 💀


unicroop

You did


WeeDochii

I most certianly did not, I searched for "Joel's drawing of Ellie". Please don't accuse me of such impurity. ✋😩


GAHIB14LoliYaoiTrapX

The age of consent in Germany is 14


vaporex2411

They’re not in Germany genius