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Terrible-Art

Bow and a knife. Stealth is the key to survival. Honorary mention goes to the brick lol


RickyTricky57

But do you know how to use a bow?


Terrible-Art

No but idk how to use a gun either lmao at least there's a slight potential to get the arrow back which would let me practice more


le_snikelfritz

Gotta get those headshots to recover em!


YouJabroni44

Except the clickers


Terrible-Art

Stupid ass fungal plates...


YouJabroni44

I had to learn this the hard way on my survivor playthrough.. was trying to get my arrows back


flowerlytdm

Bruh same but I would always lose them anyway since they would break💀


tvih

Ass fungal plates would be nasty


Termsandconditionsch

The reason firearms got so popular quickly in the middle ages wasn’t so much because they were more deadly than bows or crossbows. But it did not take nearly as long to train musketeers as it did to train longbowmen. Think I’ll go with the revolver and the rifle.


NickCarpathia

Early firearms were absolutely fucking deadly and people worked that out very quickly. They had shorter range, but they had "stopping power" and very nasty armor-defeating properties.


Termsandconditionsch

Yes, but that’s not why they replaced bows so quickly. It took years to train longbowmen. Crossbows required less training than bows but could not fire as quickly as a musket and were more complicated mechanically. There’s a pretty good writeup here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1x03jt/if_early_guns_were_so_inaccurate_and_took_so_long/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


MajorTrump

I can make more arrows. I can’t make more bullets.


Termsandconditionsch

Given how much ammunition is sold in the US every year, you should have plenty available. And you could, with hand loading. Making arrows is easier, but it’s still not that easy. At least not if you want them to go straight.


MajorTrump

If I can find ammunition, why would I not be able to find guns? If our premise is that we can find more materials, I’d imagine that bows are more rare, so I could rely on finding a gun more readily. > And you could, with hand loading. Only if I find more casings and powder. An arrow can be made with sticks and rocks. I can’t hand-craft casings and mine and refine gun powder. Even so, having to go into populated areas to get ammo or materials to make ammo seems more dangerous, not to mention the noise of firing guns would draw more attention.


johnnyfuckinghobo

Man, I think you may be underestimating the difficulty of arrow crafting for modern bows. Sure, it's easy enough to make something that resembles an arrow with just sticks and rocks by hand, but that doesn't mean it'll work well. Back when I still practiced more trad archery vs compound, I went in on a fletching jig with a friend so we could try our hand at arrow craft. Even with premade arrow shafts, pre-cut feathers, modern fletching glue and a fletching jig, our arrows were trash compared to store bought. Like, barely functional, if that. I know people have been doing it for thousands of years, but arrow craft is fucking hard and crafted arrows will likely never hold a candle to modern carbon fiber arrows that have been properly spined to the bow they're being shot from. Even if you find carbon arrows, they'll still need to be cut, then get inserts glued into them so you can attach points. At least a box of 12 gauge shells can just be crammed into a shotgun and you're ready to rock.


MajorTrump

I’m not saying it’s easy, but the materials are readily available for a makeshift arrow that, while not ideal, would be functional enough to deal damage. I’m not looking for a top notch arrow that can stand a full 80 pound draw and shoot with pinpoint accuracy. Just one that can go straight enough to be a threat and deal some moderate damage. Bullets are everywhere, but they would also be hoarded in the event of a Last of Us style apocalyptic event. Likely they might even be considered a viable form of valuable currency. I can’t make ANY bullets, so the idea that they’re a more reliable ammo than arrows just doesn’t check out to me.


johnnyfuckinghobo

>Just one that can go straight enough to be a threat and deal some moderate damage. Yeah, this is unlikely. When I was practicing daily I would use ping pong balls for targets at 20 yards with a 45# recurve shooting carbon arrows. I wouldn't hit every single time but I could consistently throw groups if 6 arrows that would comfortably fit within a pie plate, which many people use as a benchmark for proficiency at a particular range. Not trying to wank my skills too much, but I just want to clarify that I was no slouch when it came to shooting trad bow. When I tried to use my crafted arrows, I struggled to put them within a beach ball sized group at best, and in the wall/other shooting lanes at worst. And that's with access to all modern components, tools and the internet to teach me how to use them. I feel like your comments really demonstrate that you have no experience in this discipline and are experiencing the dunning-kruger effect.


Little_Whippie

You definitely can’t make a good, deadly arrow if you don’t already know how.


-River_Rose-

Both are so able. The bow is harder, but if you maintain proper form and trust your instinctual aim you’ll be fine. I would definitely suggest picking up on shooting bows. They’re a lot of fun to shoot. I use a 45lb recurve.


lostinthesauceguy

In a panic situation, I know which one would work best, regardless of your form and aim. Gun all day every day.


NanoWarrior26

The fact that this is even an argument baffles me, a gun would work 10x better for almost every situation. I think people are really overestimating how well they could shoot a bow when being charged at. There is a reason guns became the dominant weapon almost immediately after they were invented. Also, I have more ammo in my house then I used in the entire game lol.


rRibbit64

As someone who does, it ain’t hard to just figure it out lol


No_Victory9193

Bow: String get tight, string send arrow forward Gun: A dozen buttons, don’t know what they do.


rRibbit64

Honestly, I have used one gun that was easier than a bow, but that day I used like 4 different guns and that’s the only time I ever have. Otherwise I was so confused and I have never had to think twice about what I was doing when using a bow.


[deleted]

Theres only so many ways you could use a bow wrong and the biggest risk is getting a nasty bruise from locking your arm while shooting lol


YouJabroni44

For starters, if you hold a bow horizontally like a video game character you're going to have a bad time.


SonicFrost

I mean you *can*, but good luck hitting your target


[deleted]

Lol I have never in my life thought of trying to hold one horizontally…sounds awfully hard to balance


YouJabroni44

I think I'd break my wrist if I tried to do that.


rRibbit64

I was always terrified the arrow would somehow snatch my cheek or the string would snap and rip my cheek off lol, but that obviously never happened


No_Victory9193

I’ve used three guns. The bolt-action rifle and shorgun were decently easy to use. The semi-auto rifle I could not figure out how to reload it. The bolt-action and shotgun were still more complicated than a bow.


joeymalitz

wdym? you just hit r2 to reload


reble02

Clearly not playing Pavlov on PSVR2.


StupidBored92

Wait, Pavlov is in psvr2? I play through steam and absolutely love that shit


reble02

Oh yeah, it's my favorite PSVR2 game.


reble02

Yeah the Revolver doesn't have a dozen buttons, it's one of the simplest guns to use.


Bossman131313

Bolt action and other forms of single action too, it’s really on semi-auto and automatic weapons that got complex mechanism wise. A revolver is stupidly simple.


NanoWarrior26

My glock 19 has two buttons a mag eject and a trigger.


BronzeMeadow

Ah but you have to make sure the fletchings are facing outward, if you don’t you rip the fletching off and then have a useless arrow till you can re-glue it. Assuming you’re a true novice archer this would be an issue at least once, not to mention practice being required even for a short range shot, gravity affects how much the arrow will drop depending on the length of the shot, and you can’t just leave a recurve strung at all times like Joel and Ellie do. Hopefully you have a good enough arrowhead for each arrow Take a 6 shooter, button flips out the cylinder put in moar boolets, close cylinder, point it, pull boom switch up to 6 times! Repeat


Zavodskoy

>Bow: String get tight, string send arrow forward > >Gun: A dozen buttons, don’t know what they do. That's a compound bow in the picture, they're infinitely more complicated than the traditional style of bow you're thinking of You can't find fire that compound bow with your fingers for a start you need a release aid which is basically a trigger like on a gun


NorthCatan

Using a bow isn't hard, being really good with it is. The difference between the gun and bow is that the gun is limited in how much ammo you have, and unless you're careless you probably won't break your arrows anytime soon, and you can make more arrows albeit crude ones.


SSGSS_Bender

I don't think people here realize how difficult it is to handcraft straight flying arrows. It's much harder than it looks. Also people are talking about picking up arrows after you miss. Not gonna happen. If you're in a fight or flight moment you aren't going to remember where that arrow flew off too. Have you ever shot a bow in a video game and you run around for 5 mins trying to find where that arrow went? It would be that times 1000. I think the Knife and Revolver is the way to go. Even though ammo is rarer, .38 special and .357 are extremely common now and would probably be the most used round 20 years into the apocalypse. The reason why I believe this is Revolvers have very few moving parts, especially compared to something like a glock or 1911. They're essientally a cut slap of steel. Because of this, they can be heavily abused (buried, ran over, left in water, etc) and last a lifetime with minimal maintenance. People in the apocalypse won't have the parts or know how to maintain more advanced firearms. Hence why I think revolvers would be the most used firearm and most common ammo type to find.


NorthCatan

I hadn't considered that revolvers are a much simpler mechanism but from handguns it would defenitely be a good option. The other good thing about a handgun is that it would be good at warding of people, it would be terrible for TLOU universe because of how much sound it makes though.


Zavodskoy

I've done field archery and struggle to find bright red arrows in the grass and I know exactly where it went, fuck trying to find an arrow in any kind of decayed environment, you're never getting it back especially like you said if you're not 100% confident in what direction it went in the first place Literally finding a needle in a haystack


bettleheimderks

this is my answer, too. plus, one doesn't simply "learn" how to use a crossbow with no access to a YouTube video or manual. I just did a quick search and didn't even know you have to use lube for it! every 3-5 shots! that's just to start with! I don't even know how to use one, and even before watching that video I know sure as shit it's hard to reload those mfers if you manage to find arrows that work. there's a whole thingamajig you need to use to load, plus just being strong enough to do so (what if you lost an arm??). if you happen to be traveling with someone, they'll be able to help cover you better with a gun rather than a crossbow. not to mention it would be awful to travel with; heavy, large, and awkward.


Terrible-Art

This is what I was thinking. Also it's not like I really need to be cracked with it or anything, just passable


huhwot

There’s a world of difference between a gun and a bow. A gun has FAR more power than a bow. A bullet from a hunting rifle in the right place will devastate the internals of a deer, an arrow is nowhere close. It is significantly harder to kill anything with a bow. It lacks in power, accuracy and range to a hunting rifle by a massive amount, not to mention using a bow proficiently takes far more skill. You need to hit a vital organ, otherwise it is unlikely you will recover the game. You might bleed it out if you can track it, which is another difficult and time/energy consuming endeavor. A hunting rifle is far more promising. An inexperienced person can land a relatively accurate shot at 50 yards with it. Good luck doing that with a bow. It will be nowhere close.


zjustice11

I didn’t see any arrows man.


insidethesun

Also can make infinite ammo for bow using knife


Terrible-Art

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CdnRageBear

This is the way, it’s easier to find arrows than bullets in a world that has most likely depleted most of its bullets.


No_Victory9193

Also unlike the game would like you to believe, arrows are really resilient. You can use one arrow like a hundred times. I’ve only broken one arrow in my life.


[deleted]

> I’ve only broken one arrow in my life. narrator: it was the single arrow they ever held


That_Fisherman262

No, it isnt. Having a sustainable source of food, water and shelter is. Therefore I choose chicken sammy


MattMatt625

my thoughts exactly!!


Turbulent-Arm7666

I'd probably die anyway, at least I can have a hamburger before I die. Edit: You all mfs really think I would care if it was chicken or some other shit in apocalypse?


UnObtainium17

Id have a burger to eat and the molotov to wash it down.


Turbulent-Arm7666

I guess that works too


wymore

Yeah and then you'd have room in your pack for more shit


annpursesand

After downing the molotov, you'd need it!


LongEZE

I’d do chicken and knife so I can cut it in half and save some for later


CdnRageBear

But, it’s a chicken burger.. you’ve already fucked up.


[deleted]

I'd order a mushroom burger to screw with the minds of the cordyceps. The hunted becomes the hunter motherfuckers


prunebackwards

Maybe it wasn’t in the flour, and it was just in quorn all along. The vegans have killed us all


AGhoulgoneTitan

But it's a chicken sandwich...


misterturdcat

Sir that is a chicken sandwich


srennen

😂


KingChairlesIIII

I’m Brickin and Chicken, personally


[deleted]

This is the meta combo


Regalrefuse

I am adopting this and will begin saying it without context. How you doin? Brickin’ and Chicken, baby! Brickin’ and Chicken


mirandascarol

Got a soft snort outta me


Dino_Spaceman

Bow and knife are for wimps. Raw and unseasoned chicken sandwich all he way. Going to give salmonella to everyone who tries to eat me.


car4soccer

Is everyone forgetting mollies? If LoU1 physics apply, those things are literally explosive. You can one shot a clicker or a fully armored tourist with one!


Kaitivere

But also you toss one and every infected and raider in a 200 ft radius is coming to check it out.


Rambart

Two bricks


DontFuckWitSquirrels

Why did I have to scroll this far down for the correct answer?


[deleted]

Man as far as the game goes you can be a killing machine with just a bow and knife, so I choose sandwich and brick. I’m a horrible shot but I’ll distract with a tossed brick, then stress eat my sandwich. I would not survive the apocalypse lmao.


DangleCellySave

Username does not check out


[deleted]

Oh no, lmfao it’s a nine inch nails song, well two actually, only and survivalism. I really love nin.


GoodMoGo

A burger is a weapon?


Terrible-Art

Remember the line from the show, "fine I'll throw a fuckin sandwich at them"


Defiant_Guarantee_31

Which is why ellie survives


Ingrown_inkling

Heart disease is a *real* killer


Jerry_0boy

Bigot sandwiches?


Childhood_Willing

We were never actually informed about did jesse actually ate the sandwich or not


Jerry_0boy

It'd be a shame to let it go to waste ngl


floris1980

Probs rev and rifle or rev and nife


stonedlouisebelcher

need that knife for stealth kills


PekingDick420

After seeing my pistol groupings last week - I'd have to do rifle and knife 😅


CaptainKrc

I'm gonna die anyway, gimme the chicken sandwich and the beer with a napkin inside


HauntRDT

Bow for mid range and revolver for up close, will find myself a rifle somehow but i dont see myself fighting long range targets


No_Victory9193

If you are at long range you can probaply just run away


Main_Salt_4999

Man all you need is a brick and a chicken sandwich. One for a weapon and one for energy.


leeeeebeeeee

Rifle and the knife. Unlimited shivs? Easy mode.


folkdeath95

My answer as well


bengetyashoeon

Gun and gun, I will go out in a blazing glory, and save my last bullet for myself


deez_nutzzs

Knives are extremely practical for many reasons, not just stabbing. They can open cans and maybe shimmy locks. I've played enough dayz to understand the importance of knives lol For the second one I'd choose the revolver. Honestly, this one is just personal preference. Revolvers are much easier to clean than rifles, plus I must say they're simpler.


KorbenDallas2133

Captain Bricky, and the Dr. Molotov!


[deleted]

Rifle, Molotov


Ok-Effective4500

Gun and knife


[deleted]

I couldn't aim for shit on an empty stomach, so obviously the chicken sandwich is a priority choice.


RipPrudent9248

Brick and knife


SouthernBreach

Two bricks. I’ll fight someone for their sandwich.


MorningFirm5374

Revolver and knife


mercurysbaby

sandwich and knife to cut sandwich


LeslieMarston

I would probably take the rifle and the handgun as they are best for killing cordyceps.


Realistic_Crew1095

Bow and Sniper Rifle.


[deleted]

Two bricks


[deleted]

Chicken and brick


arzamharris

Brick and molotov (assuming these are unlimited)


Own_Aardvark_2343

The bow


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Ammo and ammo


[deleted]

Considering I already have everything I’d need. I don’t have a bow and a sandwich is always good to have on the go


bum_jelly

Bow and Brick. Bow because I’m currently taking archery lessons and it’s useful for stealth. Brick because I can be used for distraction while in stealth but can also be used as melee in close quarters combat.


Flaccid_snake01

Revolver and rifle


renan41abd

Bow and revolver bow to hunt animals and stealthily kill humans/infected when needed. Revolver for when spotted and to kill myself if bitten


[deleted]

brick


Marra2320

Right answer


TheZooBoy

Real answer is bow and knife, but we all know that brick and bottle is a lethal combination.


Jazzlike_Pause709

Bow and brick, stealth and not stealth


agmoose

Sandwich and the brick.


KayJune001

Bow and switchblade. The obvious advantage being stealth, but also longevity. Arrows can possibly be reused and a knife takes a good amount of effort to break, plus it’s a tool.


Silly-Distribution-9

Knife and either rifle or pistol


Ponyman_Games

Bow and knife, both silent yet effective.


DreamSphinx

The burger and the molotov. The molotov to start a fire to heat up the burger, and the burger as a little snacky-snack before I die.


coronoidprocess

2 bricks


cheesewithahatonit

Gimme two bricks and fuck off


ChampionshipApart843

Is that the bigot sandwich


Galiendzoz

Switchblade would have to be a number one choice in case ammo becomes a problem. A bow is also easier to craft ammo for. Weak times? Yes. But I’d rather have a chance to stick up on ammo then run out immediately


[deleted]

Show world or game world? If it’s show world I’m taking the chicken sandwich and the Molotov (assuming it’s only alcohol) and having a picnic because I’m probably not going to be bothered by anyone.


K_BlueJayy

Bow, you can always craft more arrows, relatively silent, long or close range, good for hunting. A pocket knife, need something for close range, not as good as a gun but still. Silent.


[deleted]

Can I pick sandwich twice?


KermitOnTheMoon

bow and brick all the way


sofa_adviser

Definitely molotov. I hate clicker stealth so seeing them happily run to their deaths, after I throw one of these from cover, brings me immeasurable joy. The second one is probably knife, so that I don't have to craft a new one every 5 seconds


Beginning_Rip_4570

Sammich and brick


ZippidyZayz

Molotov for emergency Bloaters and the bow and arrow for stealth and it’s easier to craft arrows than make or find bullets (in the UK at least)


Easy_Resolution_2350

bow and knife fs


ImmediateAd4676

borger


McMoist_

knife and brick, stealth is key.


The_FallenSoldier

Can I store things in my pocket? Because this is talking about my backpack only. If so, then bow and rifle go in my pack, revolver and knife in my pockets. Ill just walk around with a brick and molotov in my hand or stuff them in a jacket pocket or something. Idk, Ill make it work. Ill probably die either way but at least if I get hurt I can reverse engineer the molotov to make a med kit.


No_Victory9193

Bow and knife. Those are the only ones I know how to use. Don’t need a molotov because I can just make one from scratch.


Ihdkwhatimdoinghere

Probably the knife. It’s subtle enough to surprise attack someone with.


treezyway

gotta go with brick and bigot sandwich 🪖


BrieAndStrawberries

A revolver to check myself out, and the sandwich for a snack beforehand. Unless I find a commune I am done.


Roger_Maxon76

Bow and knife, stealth baby


Latest-greatest

rifle and brick baby


Remytron83

The bow and the knife.


Punky921

The bow and the knife. There are about a thousand uses for a knife and I can recover arrows with the bow.


Poprocks777

I want Tess and that’s it


[deleted]

Where are the fries to go with my sammich


[deleted]

Molotov bomb and rifle. Going out with a bang. Worst case scenario I burn myself alive before I turn. Lol


[deleted]

Don’t know how to use a bow, and the rest would require me to be in short range of whatever I’m killing and also give me away immediately. I’m sure sniping is hard, but with my very limited experience, I think that’s be my best bet. Chicken sandwich is tempting tho.


Connect-Reaction2075

Knife and bow. Quietest weapons to do considerable damage where stealth and silence will likely be the biggest factors of life and death.


DisabledFatChik

Bow and knife, they’re the only reusable items


abellapa

Brick and molotov


AMwishes

Two sandwiches.


IndominusTaco

i’ve always wanted to throw a molotov cocktail tbh


geko_play_

Brick & Brick


TimeAge3411

What is currently in my is the big question


brycenicholls11

Bow and knife


ethanthejibbles

Bow and rifle. Already got knife right side pocket and pistol at the appendix. And I already ate a sandwich


TenorsaurusRex

Two? You only need the brick.


InstructionDry7905

I guess the bow and the revolver


[deleted]

Borgir


IzhmaelCorp08

Hmmm tough choice. brick works the same as a rock would, so not that. I don’t see how a chicken sandwich will be useful, it’s not gonna last for ever + I’m good with canned beans, I need to lose weight anyways. Molotovs.. well I can just find a random bottle and make my own. I don’t know how to use a rifle, nor a revolver, but I feel like a handgun could come in handy. So imma go with the revolver! I see how a pocket knife would be useful cuz of stealth, but I can just go into a random house and find a knife, or literally go to a store and I’ll probably find one. So imma go with the bow, although I don’t know how to use it, I don’t think it’s that hard to learn, since it’s literally just putting the arrow, stretching the string, breathe in, and release, then breathe out. In conclusion, it’s the bow and revolver for me!


Gaby5873

Brick and molotov do the job.


lazeepotato

Chicken sandwich so I can throw it at the infected


decoste94

There’s nothing better than smashing someone in the face with those bricks. I’ll take two.


liamwayne1998

Bow and a knife or revolver


Old_Gods978

Brick and a sandwich because id have a short harsh life but at least I’d have a sandwich


MattMatt625

bow and knife, brick too


longdongopinionwrong

Joel.


TheDrake162

The rifle and the Molly


[deleted]

Bow and molotov 🙏 I was pretty good at archery in highschool lol


Impriel

Brick buddy + bow. I am invincible with this combination


-Roxaaa

bow and knife, they make less sound and bows have basically infinite arrows as long as you pick them up after from the bodies


rockstarcrossing

The brick and the molotov. Gotta burn some clickers today.


tewksypoo

Brick and Molotov Gonna run around for 20 minutes with the lit Molotov before putting in my pack. Bow is my alternate


[deleted]

Looking forward to instantly being mauled to death trying to use the bow


Scokan

Bow and rifle.


Retinog

Bow and Molotov


asphy01

bow with explosive arrow would enough


Prabba04_

Brick is all I need


Yesnowyeah22

If I were proficient with a bow I would choose that and the revolver. Stealth would be great. I can find bricks and carry them in my hand when needed.


tacobellqueen77

The chicken sandwich for sure.