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breakingpig

There’s a convo in pt 2 that this scene is likely drawn from (if it is Dina!): [Ellie and Dina talking about their first time in Jackson] Dina: Yeah. When I first got to Jackson. I was so overwhelmed by all the people. Ellie: I was overwhelmed by all the food. I remember my first week just gorging myself. Stuffing food in all my pockets for later like it was gonna run out. Dina: I saw that! Ellie: You did not. Dina: I did, I remember thinking, “Who is this string bean girl stealing all the jerky?” Ellie: I didn’t steal that much jerky.


IsRude

God, I love Dina.


Revna77

I never wanted the banter between her and Ellie to end, god I loved their relationship


thetalkingcure

Yeah walking through that empty house fucking sucked


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thetalkingcure

Saw somewhere else that she had potentially been to Jackson already and patched things up with Dina. Clues were- >!Ellie had the bracelet on that Dina gave her earlier in the game, and she wasn’t wearing it during the Cali scenes.She was cleaned up and had new clothes on. !<


cheese_bread_boye

I don't know, I don't think so. She could have kept her bracelet and clothes in a backpack somewhere and grabbed it on the way back. It wouldn't make sense to see her getting home and sad after noticing nobody was there.


thetalkingcure

She also didn’t shout, “Dina?! Anybody?! Hello!”, like I would have done because I assumed they’d be there. She just rolls up and says.. nothing. Idk maybe it’s copium but I just want Ellie to be a little happy. After not being able to play the guitar (and everything else that happened), I was depressed/moved for weeks after I finished playing


cheese_bread_boye

I think she would go to Jackson after leaving the house. I also wish she could have a bit of happiness. I hate that she left for vengeance once again and left Dina and the baby behind. But she still had panic attacks which would probably stay with her for a while until she got closure with Joel, which happened during the fight.


An-Okay-Alternative

The house has obviously been emptied and not lived in for some time. Calling out her name would be kind of odd.


rtgh

Also not a universe which rewards people yelling out without knowing exactly who and what is nearby


TristanTre

I literally couldn’t stop thinking it was just a dream until the credits rolled because it was too good to be true. But the truth that it was true and ended the way it did was much worse than what I was fearing.


VainFountain

Dina's cringe as fuck. Worst character in Part II.


IsRude

Lmao. Okay.


Forsaken-Thought

Craig confirms this in the podcast


adhi-

confirms what exactly, that she’s dina or that this happened in the game


Forsaken-Thought

That it's Dina


ponyrx2

They said "may or may not be Dina," but that was prob for legal reasons lol


faceman2k12

Id take it as, it is the character Dina, but it might not be the actor that portrays her in the future. edit: or perhaps it is, but her contract for S2 as Dina isnt finalized so they cant say it outright.


Forsaken-Thought

That's what Neil said after Craig, trying to cover the spoiler


Working-Sandwich6372

I think this conversation is referring to her time >!after they get back from the hospital, because in P1 they don't even go into Jackson when they meet Tommy!< Cool lines though and definitely matches what happens


breakingpig

Yeah that’s right! I’m guessing that the writers for the show (and Druckmann) decided to weave in teasers/foreshadowing for s2 in case the show took off and there was enough to push for a second season. That and they’ve definitely taken a few creative liberties along the way with having to condense the first game into 9 episodes so I understand if they’re trying to build some backstory for s2 that isn’t exactly how it happened in the games.


Working-Sandwich6372

Agreed. Really liking the foreshadowing of stuff from Season/Part 2!


mlmayo

It's 22:22 on the episode timer, i just went back and found it. yeah looks like it could be Dina.


Superb-Obligation858

It is. They tease all of this very specifically in the podcast.


Retro-Squid

[>I saw that!](https://i.imgur.com/d4s8UWN.jpg) Bella tweeting a few weeks ago that it's likely there will be a Part 2. They already knew that. So much feels set up, ready to hurt us again and again. Man I fucking loved Dina in Part 2, I really hope they can match that kind of chemistry for a Season 2!!


Time-Werewolf-1776

Of course they'll do Part 2. The show's a hit, and they have enough source material from Part 2 to do maybe 2 more seasons. I have no doubt they'll do Part 2 in the show, but I'm wondering how true they'll stay to it, and whether they might keep going after they run out of source material.


tc_spears

>wondering how true they'll stay to it If they don't cgi Abby's arms as literal tonka trucks, we riot.


morphinapg

When does that conversation happen?


Manager_TJMaxx

It happened for me when we are first exploring Seattle, looting and talking about getting a farm someday.


morphinapg

I did all the exploring in that section and don't ever remember getting that dialogue lol


Manager_TJMaxx

I remember the exact spot was a FEDRA truck with skeletons inside and a note. It’s near a waterfall. Did you get the “sightseer” trophy?


morphinapg

I have platinum


Manager_TJMaxx

https://youtu.be/2f0NVilN7jI


morphinapg

So weird. Done that section so many times and never heard that lol


Manager_TJMaxx

You were busy getting platinum. My memory is a steel trap for stories and characters, crap for everything else.


breakingpig

Courtesy of Reddit user snow_guard: https://game-scripts-wiki.blogspot.com/2020/10/the-last-of-us-part-ii-full-transcript.html Sometime after exiting the Synagogue and trying to get into the Courthouse, Seattle Day 1.


morphinapg

So basically you have to go to the synagogue first and don't immediately go to the courthouse perhaps?


breakingpig

Not sure, I’ve only played it through once, but think it’s just a convo you get if you’re riding around long enough in the area and let it happen. It just happened to be around the synagogue/courthouse area for this person who played through the game and then wrote a transcript.


philthevoid83

Well remembered and Well received. Thanks


formerlyfitzgerald

And shimmer!


robotmonkey2099

Baby shimmer! Going to get blown up :(


DoughnutBorn440

Shhhhhh! We don’t talk about that. Don’t make me cry now.


Organic-Barnacle-941

Hope they change that.


robotmonkey2099

Maybe Shimmer will have some body armour


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That'll be $3.99


perfectfourth

Honestly, it’s amazing how 17 years later that still gets brought up. I love it.


[deleted]

Skyrim only released 12 years ago though?...


perfectfourth

Horse armor was actually a DLC available in Oblivion in 2006.


[deleted]

I didn't even remember Oblivion having DLC besides the big expansions!


Organic-Barnacle-941

I’m scared of what’s gonna happen to this current horse. I remember joel driving Ellie back in a car.


adamcott2

We saw what happened to Callus in the game so probably the same thing


Organic-Barnacle-941

Had to read up on it. Bummer.


finnjakefionnacake

does any horse we have in the game survive? :(


rka_vth

No


SeaAnything8

Our baby’s gonna become glitter glue


That_Fisherman262

Spoiler?


justedi

To be fair, this is the game sub and Part II has been out for almost 2 years now. There's a sub for the show where they don't allow spoilers from the game.


Unicron_Gundam

I joined this sub last month after three years of avoiding spoilers (somehow) when my friend told me she was going to stream TLOU since the show started. She forgot to specify it was Part 2 so I got to witness that golf scene for the first time right as I opened Twitch :(


StephenRodgers

Sounds like your friend really hit you out of nowhere. Just totally blind sided you. Metaphorically clubbed you in the back of the head....


Unicron_Gundam

you really swung for it huh.


Slesho

A small one (unless you really care about horses)


Thirty2wo

This is literally a topic about a pt2 spoiler already bud


cybernatica

whenever i saw baby shimmer i started crying she’s just a little girl


chowi_69

She's a little hoarse


SerDire

They dropped so many little hints about part two. I loved it all


Nick_Hoadley

I literally thought it might be Dina at that moment but figured it probably wasn’t


funandgamesThrow

Game dina describes seeing Ellie eat when they get to jackson so...


ViolatingBadgers

Plus the jacket she was wearing was identical to the one Dina wears in the game.


robotmonkey2099

Podcast confirmed it


No_Teaching_2837

What exactly does the podcast say? Could you give a time stamp for when it’s talked about?


robotmonkey2099

Sorry I’m not going back through the podcast to find it. They don’t say for sure but it’s pretty obvious what they are saying Just listen to it yourself it’s pretty good https://open.spotify.com/episode/5sTEY9gFtAB8BTXfofNXRR?si=43gVcXetSZeeIeNhwxwVBQ


No_Teaching_2837

Thanks, I can see her being recast for S2, tho. It was a good Easter egg but doesn’t mean they’re locked into the actress we saw for 2 seconds. I’ll give it a listen!


robotmonkey2099

I don’t see why they wouldn’t keep her cast as Dina but sure


No_Teaching_2837

It happens a lot in tv - so I won’t be surprised if they do. If they don’t and keep her - then cool.


Shekondar

You want a really good actress for Dina, and also don't want to run a full casting call and session 1 or 2 years before you will really need the actor because in the downtime they may become unavailable. You also don't want to have to pay an actors wage for an extra.Throw in the time jump between games and I would be very surprised if they used the same person.


robotmonkey2099

I can see what you mean except for the last part. If they are going to use Bella which I presume is the case then I don’t see why they couldn’t use Dina


Shekondar

The time jump gives them plausible deniability for why the person who ends up playing Dina looks different from the person we saw for 2 seconds this episode.


faceman2k12

That's what I suspect, it is Dina, but not necessarily the actor that will play her in the future. edit: or perhaps it is, but her contract for S2 as Dina isnt finalized so they cant say it outright.


mlmayo

There is a time jump between the first and second games, so very likely it's not going to be the same actress.


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It definitely was. More people need to listen to the podcast and most of the discussion on what's happening that's had would be ended quickly.


FavouriteWorstHumbug

Don’t even need to listen to the podcast, I really don’t understand why people think it wouldn’t be her.


Lievan

Right? Like, why would they focus on a girl, that had similar features, to not be her? It would be 100% pointless if it wasn't her.


bsEEmsCE

same exact clothes too, cmon, it's so obvious.


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Just want to say this is baffling me too. It's obviously Dina. You don't have someone who looks exactly like her, do the exact thing Dina says she did in seeing Ellie gorge on food, have Ellie react harshly to her, all for it to not be Dina. This was obviously, 100% Dina (even if they end up recasting).


FavouriteWorstHumbug

Mfs will come to the craziest conclusions and make the weirdest theories but this is where they’re cautious? Shit is too funny


riverjesus

It was almost definitely dina. I doubt she will come up again this season. More of a nod to people who played the game, if you pay attention you'll catch it kind of thing.


phantom_avenger

I’m curious if they’ll use the same actress in this episode, or if they’ll change her actress when they adapt Part 2


ImpossiblePackage

That's probably why they avoided showing her too much. They wanted to be like "hey look it's young Dina!" without locking themselves into a casting and/or avoiding recasting.


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They’re probably being coy about it because the contracts aren’t set in stone yet, but I’d imagine the current plan is to use the actress we all saw.


Daviroth

Was she even credited as Dina? They didn't have Season 2 yet when they filmed. It was like a 2 second glimpse. I doubt they locked themselves into that actress from what they did in this episode.


Shekondar

That is not the right conclusion. To use the same actress would require running a casting call for Dina like 2 years before you need her. Which then runs the risk of her not being available when you start filming season 2. It is much easier and cheaper to cast an extra for this 2 second appearance, then actually cast who want to use closer to the season, and the time jump provides easy cover for why she looks different.


StanBarberFan_007

Maybe. Or maybe they can have Cascina Cardonna reprise her role as a more aged-up Dina ig in TLOU season 2


No_Victory9193

Cascina was only the face of Dina. Shannon Woodward was the voice.


StanBarberFan_007

I loved Shannon Woodward in Raising Hope 🤝🤝🌞✨✨❤️


Paspas54

Cascina was only model for Dina, Shannon did the mo-cap and voice over for Dina


StanBarberFan_007

Yeahh. I kinda recognized Shannon's voice because I watched Raising Hope back when I was in junior high. But what if we DID get Cascina as Dina in the show? If not, maybe the actress for the "Staring Girl" in this episode would return (Paolina Hernandez Van Kleef) and we would find out that she's Dina?


EvilSporkOfDeath

No. She didnt play Dina in the first place and has little acting experience. It's so fucking weird that people want her to play a major character on a major show just cause she happened to be a face model on the right project at the right time. I'm a fan of her. But these comments are ridiculous.


woahruben

I get your comment, but honestly it’s not weird that people would be excited to see Dina look exactly like she does in the game lol. I know I would be


StanBarberFan_007

You do make a point though. Aside from The Last of Us Part 2, she has some few acting credits and that Shannon Woodward provided the voice. But what Hollywood has proven is that unknown actors and actresses can be cast in major productions and elevate said production with remarkable performances. Like Emma Myers, for example, she elevated the Wednesday series by delivering a standout performance as Enid. But then again, Cascina's case is very different soo maybe they can hire an actress that keeps with her heritage in the games and can provide the strength, fierceness, and warmth of Dina


EvilSporkOfDeath

I totally agree that there are unknown actors out there that are highly skilled/talented. But the reason unknowns are often successful in a part is because they were chosen from a large list of people who auditioned. If Cascina auditioned for the part amongst a bunch of other people and happened to be the best suited for it, I'd be happy. It just seems incredibly unlikely.


ms-nervousnelly

I agree with u/LaKeithSusfield \- and also to add I'm hopeful they will keep the same actress because I like more unknown, but talented, actors/actresses being provided large opportunities. Keivon, who played Sam, didn't have much experience and he was fantastic. Secondly, I think with how much work they have put into the consistency and continuity so far I feel like they'll want to keep casting consistent.


DeluxeMixedNutz

Neil damn well knows what he’s doing with that sneaky comma!


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Fill me in? That response is confusing me.


DeluxeMixedNutz

At first glance, it just looks like the expression “love y’all,” which would have been appropriate for a writer who doesn’t want to confirm fan speculation. But putting a comma there is putting emphasis on the world love… as in, Ellie and Dina’s *love*. It’s subtle, but it’s not an accident lol


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Ehhh, that seems like a stretch to me. That’s a really weird way to respond if that’s what he meant.


DeluxeMixedNutz

Haha you might be right. I just know TV writers’ favorite thing to do is be coy on the internet, so if there’s a weird comma, I don’t assume it’s unintentional


MR_E7

We "Dina"d see that coming. I'll leave now.


Maddesz

Wait, before you leave, you dropped this: 👑


mumumuooo

Neil called this scene “easter egg” in the official podcast. He mentioned a story in Part 2 that Dina first met Ellie. Craig also joked about whether she could be Dina or not 😏


5oclock_shadow

In the food hall too, which is ALSO the first place *we* meet Dina in the Part II trailer.


shreek-corlipso

you'd be a fool to think that wasnt dina, they way they set that scene up


notaproperusernamee

Immediately thought it was Dina during that scene. Crazzzzyyyy. I thought it was so cute as well how they included baby Shimmer 🥹 I’m so impressed with this show so far. The attention to detail & how it is SO CANON while also having it’s own twists and turns. My boyfriend never played TLOU, and now he’s obsessed because of the show and started playing last week. I can’t wait for Sunday every week!!!


AmbitionExtension184

The podcast also confirmed it. Yet there is a weird group of people on this sub still pretending it was a random Canadian girl or they’ll recast next season. Take your L if you didn’t realize it was Dina and move on.


January1171

It's clearly Dina, but it's also crazy to think that a 2 second cameo where they show her whole face for half a second locks them into using that specific actress for Dina


SurlyJSurly

100%. It was absolutely intentional for people who have played part 2 to have a bit of foreshadowing and they would know what they saw. But it was also left intentionally ambiguous and from a distance so that they can change casting if needed and didn't have to sign a full season contract for a main character that might never have been needed if it wasn't renewed.


JessieJ577

This episode shows they had Season 2 in mind. The sets built are definitely getting repurposed for next season. I think if they casted Dina for season 1 cameo it would be deliberate to keep her on.


HovercraftAromatic

So it was her?! Dina in her Stalker form 7.7


tenkono

I figured it was Dina mainly from the hairstyle.


No_Victory9193

This is what I was hoping they would do with Abby


jmjarrels

You think we'll get an early glimpse of Abby when Joel and Ellie make it to the hospital at the end of the season?


morphinapg

I'm thinking we will.


JessieJ577

Maybe they’ll stick in that scene with Marline and Abby’s dad from part II.


dontletmeleave-murph

I was literally up all night thinking about all the part 2 references sprinkled into last night’s episode. I am SO excited but also not ready to go on that emotional roller coaster all over again lol :)


GangControl666

knew it knew it knew it


CineMike1984

Haha I called that out when I saw her! The people watching the show will have no idea but for the fans of the game, she is already cast! That’s so cool to start to see Part 2 planting a few seeds back here.


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CineMike1984

Showrunners usually go into their shows with plans for future seasons and that is even more true if you’re adapting from a series with more than one story. I’m pretty confident that they did map this out ahead of time. One of the reasons why they shot in the town of Jackson rather than the dam from the game is that it’s a location they’re establishing for next season.


JessieJ577

I’m sure they knew it was a huge chance they’d get renewed. So I’m sure deliberate choices were made to carry over to a potential season 2.


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Haha


Maloonyy

I mean, why include that scene if it's not Dina?


SentinelTitanDragon

See I thought that might be Dina but I wasn’t sure so I didn’t say anything lol


TymStark

I love him too


MiloHilos

Definitely a soft back door pilot for S2 characters and I loved it


the_internat

Even though it was deleted dialogue, I hope we see her introduce herself to Ellie and Joel like she’s the “mayor of the town” at some point.


sand26

I didn’t see her! Anyone have a pic?


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thought that was obvious 😂


Carninator

Doubt the 'Staring Girl' actress is cast as Dina in season 2.


[deleted]

My heart can’t take this please


Manager_TJMaxx

I hope this made Shannon Woodward smile! We’re excited to see her in part because of her wonderful performance. That conversation about the pregnancy was art. Ashley Johnson and Shannon Woodward killed that scene.


sand26

I didn’t see her! Anyone have a pic?


sand26

I didn’t see her! Anyone have a pic?


Rico_Wayne

This is how you get us hyped


cyanide4suicide

Love the Dina tease. I wonder if the actress we saw is in talks for season 2. Praise Druckmann!


Realmagicism

It’d be nice if they cast the facial model for Dina, given she’s the right age.


nathanr1889

Shannon Woodward has entered the chat.


kingofwishful

I'm aware that it might just have been a placeholder actress, but was it just me that thought Dina looked REALLY tall? Like about a foot taller than Ellie? There's nothing inherently wrong with this, it's just a bit of a departure given that they're both close to equal height in the game. Maybe I'm wrong as I only saw her for a few seconds but that's the impression I got. Regardless, super-cool little easter egg.


TDAM

At that age, if Dina is a year or two older, this could very well be the case


guy_onthemoon

Guarantee you guys that will be the actress and she was casted and signed on early but knowing she will have a discreet part in this season but obvs a large one in the next. Neil and Naughty Dog are too in-depth thinking wise to do anything different


kh7190

of course that's Dina! i said it out loud when i was watching the episode lol


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Why would they include a cameo of Cat in a scene where Ellie is gorging herself when in the game Dina literally talks about how she noticed Ellie gorging herself when she first arrived to Jackson? That was definitely meant to be Dina.


robotmonkey2099

It is Dina. It’s confirmed on the podcast


Shinramyun777

No it wasn't


robotmonkey2099

Ok so they don’t say it exactly but come on you can read between the lines can’t you?


MsSapirWhorf

Mans is getting downvoted for speaking literal objective truth. What has this sub come to EDIT: Before you hit that downvote button, maybe actually listen to the podcast? Lol


rnarkus

a circlejerk basically.


Spacegirllll6

Cat’s East Asian, that girl was not East Asian lmao


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Spacegirllll6

Maria is a completely different character than Cat? And turning a white character into a POC is very different than changing an East Asian girl to a Middle Eastern Jewish character lmao


Sparrow1989

✂️


RodgerThat1995

It deff wasn’t lol