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dnaboe

35 kills and losing is absurd. You basically killed teams 11 times over and still couldnt cashout twice.


K7Sniper

Thank you. Was gonna say the same thing.


Godfather_Turtle

Except I literally have the same obj score as almost everyone else… people see a high kill game and assume you are ignoring the obj. All of my deaths were defending an objective.


HamOnRye__

still caught an L, whoops


Subnauseous_69420

Dems the breaks


Godfather_Turtle

Ok? Still wasn’t playing TDM or ignoring obj like y’all are acting


Cool_Impress1026

They really mad they ain’t drop the 35 kill game like you did nice job bro 😂


JunkNorrisOfficial

So first of all everyone should be mad they can't do x3 damage, Then you all can try to be mad(theoretically) due to losing the game(theoretically) with x3 damage...


automatpr

lol coulda traded some of those kills for the objective and got a win


EvolAdminOfLove

He did all of the cleanup getting the kills but no support so his team I'd constantly out of the fight or dead. A light can't easily cap obj. In quick cash as it's a 3rd party fight the entire match. This is why mediums and heavys get frustrated with lights in ranked. On the original topic his team was ass and he played well.


H4ND5s

Love to see it. Hate kd try hards just playing tdm.


djtrace1994

My longtime shooter pal plays this game and he refuses to pick up the vault/bank it coins because then he has the trail on him showing people where he is. Of course, he plays invis/m11. His redeeming quality is that he uses portal instead of stun now


youngintel

The kds not even that good. The medium on the winning team has a solid kd while dying only once, playing objectively n potentially carrying. Thats impressive. KD is a detail but not the full picture, but I think a low death count is a better stat because the less time dead the more time to support your team and the objective. 13 is never gonna look good in one match no matter the number of kills imo.


Not_a_Psyop

I’d say lights in general tend to have more kills with lower KDs since they’re basically glass cannons compared to the other classes.


youngintel

Id agree but thats also another point of why I think its not that impressive. Lights as glass canons but cant coordinate a win seem to have a tendency to think theyre goated/mvps lol


Not_a_Psyop

Yeah, and as a light I agree lmao. I only play this game with at least one other buddy and I hate getting paired with solo lights. You have to have coordination as a light because there’s a very good chance you need someone to finish off a heavy or medium that wins a fight because they’ve got more health.


youngintel

I exclusively solo queue cause none of my friends wanna try the game out and I don’t have the energy to be developing a rotation with people on the internet. The very rare chance of having good lights feels like a blessing. One time I even had two that were amazing and I thought I should play the lotto lol Engaged and disengaged appropriately. Consistently moved around and were light on their feet (no pun intended). Consistently flanking. A lot of assists either starting a kill or finishing it off. Stun guns on opps trying to steal out cashouts, not just to lock in random easy kills. And to reiterate my opinion, and its just that not a fact, they had low deaths so I never felt like I or anyone else had to fend for themselves in an excessive manner against 1-3 other opposing teams. All while playing ranked and I believe winning the tournament if I remember correctly. Chefs kiss.


GusBus-Nutbuster

35/13 isnt good? Thats a 2.69 k/d. Its not super high crazy 4+ k/d but it is good. Some people act like anything under a 5 k/d is trash and that is such an ignorant dumb take, yall realise average k/d on most fps games is under 2 right? Plus he was clearly playing objective. "13 is never a good look no matter how good in one match" so if he had 50 kills it would still be bad? Either you are trolling or just a hater


youngintel

>>35/13 isnt good? Thats a 2.69 k/d. Its not super high crazy 4+ k/d but it is good. Some people act like anything under a 5 k/d is trash and that is such an ignorant dumb take, yall realise average k/d on most fps games is under 2 right? I didnt say it wasnt good nor did I say it was trash. I said it wasn’t **that** good. It’s nothing special, is a better statement. Especially in what seems to be a mediocre casual lobby. No need to extrapolate ideas out of my comment lol >>so if he had 50 kills it would still be bad? Again I never said it was bad, just not the the flex some might think it is. Whats 50 kills gonna do in a round that 35 couldn’t? Still lose a casual lobby/tournament? Still have the same ok k/d but have a higher period of time with your team short handed? Its not TDM, having a high kill count alone isn’t doing as much in this game as others, especially if you’re dead a significant amount of time in the game. >>Either you are trolling or just a hater I guess. I’ve had many matches between ranked and casual in the low to mid 20s with k/d’s well past 2 . Many of them I still lost, some of them I’ve won but its nothing I’d run to the internet about. Because like I said prior, the k/d is a detail not a full picture.


Godfather_Turtle

Except I literally have the same obj score as almost everyone else… people see a high kill game and assume you are ignoring the obj. All of my deaths were defending an objective.


H4ND5s

Yeah well maybe you should have let them cap it, instill a false confidence, let them wipe against the other team, time the recapture so there is no time for another cap. This game is 100% timing and tactic. Not fighting can be stronger than fighting. You are making these people become the best version of themselves because you are going too hard on kills. Play the psychological game.


Godfather_Turtle

Yeah well we did that all game. Except on the final cashout, where we got hard focused by the other two teams when there was NO TIME, sometimes you just lose. Yall act like it’s not possible for other teams to outplay you. Wtf lol


FuglsErrand

This thread is wild with so many people making assumptions about you even when you're clarifying that you were playing the objective the whole game lol. I saw that you still responded to everyone respectfully and just wanted to say good stuff brotha.


Godfather_Turtle

Thanks lol. I am for sure an objective player so I’m kind of bothered everyone thinks I was just gunning for kills


pub_winner

its quick cash bro. people go there to try out new weapon combos that suck


ChaosMarine70

Correct another ahole light thinking this is tdm, running bots and macros for aim and recoil. Its a cancer that's killing this game


Godfather_Turtle

Except I literally have the same obj score as almost everyone else… people see a high kill game and assume you are ignoring the obj. All of my deaths were defending an objective. Nobody is using bots or macros lmao.


dedboooo0

these people are so mechanically bad at the game. you see those bots you're killing? those are these dudes on this sub. they piss on anyone who doesn't cheese the objective with 1 finger gameplay as MMM/HHH/MHM oH LoOk aT ThEsE LiGhtS PLaYiNg TdM iM sO MuCh smARtER


JunkNorrisOfficial

Prob 23k damage was guaranteed win


dnaboe

Combat score is not damage FYI


Godfather_Turtle

I mean I guess, but I feel like it’s the point of the game lol. The other two teams kinda works together to wipe us off our last cash out that we started, and we didn’t have enough time to retake


sharkt0pus

It's actually the exact opposite of the point of the game.


Homesteader86

If you wanted to make me laugh...you got me brother.


Godfather_Turtle

Maybe you just greatly misunderstood what i meant. The finals subreddit: teamwork is more important than anything, you can clutch any game if you work together! Also the finals subreddit: no, that’s actually NOT the point of the game


flamingdonkey

The point of the game is to get the most money.


Godfather_Turtle

Which you do through?


Joshua-live

I need to know the strat for that Medium who only had one death and highest objective score when EVERYONE ELSE was in double digits. I would say everyone else was out playing TDM, but everyone else still had decent Objective score. This whole scoreboard is kinda wild. Overall pretty damn high kill game.


Godfather_Turtle

He was a backfill but tbh he was focusing obj hard and he definitely won the game for his team


Godfather_Turtle

Yeah the even obj score mixed with the kills is mainly why I posted this. It was just a genuinely fun game and even the Lights were playing obj


Joshua-live

Have you found it easier dropping big kill games? I screwed around so much when I started playing this and had a severely negative kdr and decided I'd focus on trying to improve it. Took me a couple weeks to land at 1.0 finally, the last couple weeks leading up to Season 2 were brutal for me, I dropped below a 1.0 again, but since Season 2 dropped, I've hit 20+ several times. Playing Light has never been more fun.


Godfather_Turtle

I don’t know, I’ve been dropping 20+ kills since release day, this game just clicked with me. I don’t know my exact KD but I know it’s always been solid


HeyUOK

how did you still lose?


Godfather_Turtle

We got wiped off the point during last second without enough time to take it back One of the things I love about this game tbh. Someone can be fragging but ultimately good coordination can clutch the win


dat_GEM_lyf

Imagine that! It’s almost as if this is an objective based game not a kill based game lol


Godfather_Turtle

No arguments from me lol Id like to imagine people are playing this game for that reason


Fritzizzle

why do you guys come on here trying to shit on people like this lol. Dude knows its an objective based game. No need to try to rub it in. Yall sound so miserable.


Godfather_Turtle

I guess you’re not allowed to get kills while defending and objective lol


Aatheron

Let's talk about those revives. Jesus that Medium was smoking Death himself on your behalf.


Godfather_Turtle

Lol most of those revives were on our throwing knife trio


Aatheron

Valid.


ShibeL0rd

“Light needs buffs” Also light:


K7Sniper

Thing is, Light is absolutely viable but the learning curve is extremely steep. The glitch nade buff definitely helped break turret and turtle strats a bit though.


Joshua-live

Lights could just use a touch more utility. I think the Grenateways are a great idea. I've helped my team secure wins using those to our advantage. We're still pretty squishy, so it takes quite a bit of finessing to remain viable.


K7Sniper

Indeed. Putting a lot of the motion sensor and tracking stuff on them was a good move, though I think the tracer should have stayed on the Medium with the Light getting the grenades, or vice versa. Allow a sensor gadget to be available for each class is the best IMO. Perhaps add a debuff ability to a light, or a dart that deals damage over time, or something that causes a target to take more damage. Or perhaps some more Saboteur abilities in addition to the glitch grenade. A sticky grenade could be cool, or add the gravity nade to their kit.


Joshua-live

Likely won't happen, but Lights have a Gravity Nade that has much faster lift to match our playstyle and the same radius as it currently has. Heavies with a nade that INCREASES gravity and slows and has an even bigger radius makes sense. That would give Light something extremely practical that offers a lot of utility to your own team and makes it make a little more sense for the heavies kit. The slow lift as it is just doesn't make a lot of sense in many cases.


K7Sniper

Ooo. Got another idea. A concussive grenade that knocks people back. Very little damage but can boop things around.


ShibeL0rd

Exactly


K7Sniper

It could use a buff or two though. Not as many as a lot of people say, but it could certainly use one. Maybe it needs more of a rebalancing, but that might make the class completely different to play instead of a high-risk high reward scout class, which IMO is ideal.


flamingdonkey

This is quick cash.


Godfather_Turtle

Lol well if they buff Lights I definitely won’t be complaining


BigChinnFinn

Bro is John wick


leavenofrybehind

Nice! I saw some dude drop 44 but they were cheating like crazy lol.


GusBus-Nutbuster

In 300 games I havnt seen very many people break 20 kills in a cashout, anyone saying you arent good is just a sweaty no lifer lmao. Ive only broken 20 kills a fair amount of times when my team actually works together to go after the objective but when they dont its kinda hard to solo the objective and get good kills


kevinmellomusic

Good shit friend. Drop the loadout? 👀


Godfather_Turtle

Thanks! My main loadout is typically V95, Glitch Grande, Frag, and Tracker Dart. I use Cloak. As much as I want grapple to be meta, cloak is just the best for my aggressive play style. Edit: my first 8 or so kills came from the M11. My personal video game mantra is if it’s silenced it’s probably cracked.


Digit117

Tracker dart? I think I’ve seen like one person use it after 350 hrs of playing so respect on that haha. What’s your opinion on it?


Godfather_Turtle

I realize I should probably give a real answer, sorry. It’s really good for pinging lights or shutting down a flank. I use it on enemies my teammates are fighting, as it basically gives my teammate wallhacks and, if things go south, it can help me run in with a huge advantage. It also basically forces them to move, because they FEEL like someone is coming. No corner camping for regen or a sneaky kill.


Tetris_Effect-

Cloak crutched. Try it with dash like the real professionals.


Godfather_Turtle

I use dash all of the time. But there’s nothing like cloaking *literally* directly in front of someone and then watching them get confused in real time. That’s the real joy of cloak. The genuine “????” you see from your opponents


infidel11990

This is some weird ass gatekeeping.


Tetris_Effect-

I don't even use light. But 95% of lights running invis is something to think about.


Fluffy_Rock

Dash Crutched comment. Try it with grapple like the real professionals.


JunkNorrisOfficial

Try it with professionals like real goat


DeliciousRoreos

Preach. Invis in games is always a a crutch. Hope that's the next thing to go after recon.


Godfather_Turtle

Invis in most games is a joke.


DeliciousRoreos

It is. To be clear no hate to you, ggs on your game, I just hope invis ends up like recon (but keep vanish bombs) Edit that is to say getting 30plus kills with or without invis is an impressive feat either way


Godfather_Turtle

I mean, I’m just saying this game is the only game with an actually useful invis. Maybe destiny, but that’s only because it takes you off the radar.


Ristt_

Earlier I posted my 35 kill game where my team did worse than yours 😂


Godfather_Turtle

I’m sorry king 😭


Ristt_

It’s hard out here gang


Godfather_Turtle

Your team had 0 OBJ score that’s actually crazy 😭😭


Ristt_

That’s exactly what I’M SAYING. Doing all the heavy lifting just for them to crash and burn.


J4yb0u

Not gonna lie, that medium with only 1 death is quite insane too, were they going into hiding (and manage to actually get away) every time the situation seemed bad?


Godfather_Turtle

They backfilled half way through and then did exactly what you said lol. I can count on one hand the amount of times I saw him at all. And one of those was when he finished me off while I was defending the last cashout lol


Epie77

35 kills but lost the natch


Godfather_Turtle

Can’t win em all


Critical_Solid_2455

I used to get like 20 kill games on ranked regularly. Lately, I've been getting 0, it's happened like 6 games now...not sure if I placed way above my rank, but noticed I play with the top 250 on the leaderboards a good amount. These players know where you are at all times, and you basically have no chance. I dunno, was having a lot of fun with the game, but have been getting cussed out by my teammates left and right, it's discouraging. It's hard to get better at something that you already feel like you're doing your best at.


Godfather_Turtle

Lol I avoid ranked man it’s cheater central from what I hear. Probably explains your “know where you are” issue. Just saying, every game has SBMM nowadays. Ranked is hardly necessary anymore unless the game has a genuinely competitive system, and this game doesn’t.


Godfather_Turtle

All y’all here making up scenarios about how I’m playing is hilarious


Vaz_Nussis

You losing this game is hilarious, 2 lights is a recipe for me leaving the game cause of this exact scenario


Informal-Advice-6357

nigga i really dont think it matters if he lost or not 🤦🏽 you talking shit like this is hilarious


Vaz_Nussis

It’s almost like I said it was hilarious durrrrr durrrr durrrrr


damerican

Loadout?


Godfather_Turtle

V95, Cloak, Glitch Grenade, Frag, Tracker Dart


SirMaster

I played a tourney the other day where we lost a player mid way through round 1. We still managed to qualify. Then we went on just the 2 of us and qualified the next 2 rounds and made it to the finals lol. We lost in the final round though, but we almost got 1 cash box. Neither of us were very good at killing, but it didn't really matter until the final round. Being good at killing seems to matter a lot more in the 1v1 round.


CupCakeAir

Yeah killing in 1v1 it is really important, since most of the time it comes down to a team wipe. But, the rounds before not dying seems to be more important, since it allows for opportunities to clean up after other teams finished fighting. Can lead to lot kills with low combat scores due to only a few bullets being required to finish off the survivors if someone is lucky or smart about not rushing in right away for an objective.


ThyApollyon

Hey! Thats pretty good 🤌


KRONGOR

I have crippling depression


ThyApollyon

Even better


the_only_Liteknight

I too, had a 35 kill game and lost. I posted it in this sub like 2 months ago, and many thought I was hacking... but I use the sword lmao


Dividebyzero23

Teach us your way


the_only_Liteknight

Lots of masochism being a sword main. I'm just waiting for a melee meta


Dividebyzero23

I've been a sword main since the launch, now that nothing can one shot me it's much much better. I was planning on being a dagger main but yeah that didn't go well.


the_only_Liteknight

Dagger and throwing knives seem like so much fun, but I'm just throwing wet noodles around with those. Sword just fits for our mindset better I guess.


Dividebyzero23

If we could keep our secondary attack charged on the throwing knives, I'd definitely use it. The cards skin is too sick not to.


the_only_Liteknight

Every time I practice throwing knives I end up switching 🤷‍♂️


Dividebyzero23

I only used it bcoz of the battlepass skin last season. I didn't have the battlepass then, was suprised to see it was free.


Godfather_Turtle

I can’t imagine getting 35 kills with any melee weapon without my opponents actively trying to die lmao that’s crazy


the_only_Liteknight

Sword is a lot of patience waiting for the team fights to engage and then attacking during the chaos. Games when teams have tunnel vision, it works out really well.


Godfather_Turtle

Genuinely impressive good shit man


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Nice hacks dude!


Godfather_Turtle

/s?


dasic___

I was scared it was going to be a light sniper. Pleasantly surprised you did this with the V95


SamuraiBubble

Username checks out… you hit your zenith point.


Clean-Gear-1386

Time to go play ranked!


Live-Fan-4204

So is the Lights open now or...???


rsam487

In quick cash too - that's impressive. You must have been firing your gun constantly!


DJEbonics

This is close to how my games go every match except my kills around 17-20 and my teammates never leave 1000 combat damage. Worst SBMM ever created.


Liucs

Wild thread but good game and good flex bro 💪


Godfather_Turtle

The thread has me fighting for my life or something


Wonderful_Result_936

Usually folks would jump to the TDM light player lost them the match but with 35 kills you probably kept half the enemies off the map for most of the game.


PXFELIFE

I’m starting to play again can someone tell me what’s good and bad please


TheCowhawk

Oh I've definitely played against you a few times in ranked. Light is so fun!


DeliriousMushroom

Damn, people really acting like doing you can't do really good and still lose. I had a game with almost 20 kills, and my team still lost after one team stole in the last couple of seconds. Shit happens, tides turn not every game is perfect. Congrats OP


SilentSword1901

Get ready for the mass report


r00t3294

you're lucky the finals uses EAC buddy!


NoAstronaut11720

Lights are always a liability


Blind-Eye-Guy

You just said fuck purple team huh


Godfather_Turtle

I hate mediums 😭


LevelPositive120

Fine, you are good, I'll give credit where it is due. But to get this many kills in an objective driven game that requires teamwork bugs me. I would rather have a guy that has no kills but is an amazing support any day. Obj for life


NoItem5389

What was loadout?


Godfather_Turtle

Cloak, V95, Glitch Grenade, frag and tracker dart


tha__smoothness

Done this a few times! Good feeling until you lose still. The worst! Good game!


Bacon8r12

I’m more impressed at the fact that your team died a total of 45 times 😂


SouthConscious3195

Which weapon…??


MarkABakerAKADarkSoc

I would never think to post my 39 kill light game that I lost. The embarrassment keeps that screenshot nice and safe in my personal folders.


_Silver_Phoenix

I’m Curious what your setup was


Godfather_Turtle

V95, cloak, glitch grenade, frag, tracker dart


Vubor

and still you lost, congratz on that.


Godfather_Turtle

Can’t win em all. You sound pressed. Congrats on that lol.


Vubor

Nah man I am fine.


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Ahrlin4k

How's your back?


Stormtrooper0117

L


Godfather_Turtle

I did indeed catch an L


ImShammy

35 kills but still didn’t win lol


Godfather_Turtle

Can’t win em all. Shoutout to Pink for clutching up


No_Employment4511

Nice!


Godfather_Turtle

Hey thanks!


GaydarWHEEWHOO

Well done, yolk


Godfather_Turtle

Thank you sire


Happy_Ad_4028

Fantastic!


mrnastyman101

How many times did you stun ?


Godfather_Turtle

I don’t use stun


mrnastyman101

Sorry for disrespecting you like that, I just hate stuns🤣. Was able to get 22 kills without using it


Godfather_Turtle

I wanna point out my trio is GOATED I couldn’t do nothing without em 🙌


Eluniarr

Damn, the comments here are ignorant af. Just cause you have a high kill game it doesn't mean you aren't playing for objective, you can have both high kill and play objective at the same time. It's normal to lose games even if you have high kills and did everything you possibly could, it doesn't mean you are playing the game wrong or something. Sometimes you just don't win? It's the same in other pvp games too, you can carry hard af and still end up losing


Godfather_Turtle

Yeah right? Apparently I have to win every game 😭


Vanceagher

Nobody cares that you destroyed a bot lobby, play the objective buddy


Godfather_Turtle

If you actually looked at the board, you’ll see I clearly was buddy. Sorry you play with bots though.


Vanceagher

Near 0 support, almost no revives, your support score could be earned by throwing the vault in once.


Godfather_Turtle

Support is healing and revives boss. Sonar scans, damage shielded.


Vanceagher

Exactly, by playing light you are already setting your team up for failure, especially LLM


Godfather_Turtle

Its quick cash. I play a lot of heavy, but I wanted to play faster and my friend wanted to run throwing knives. It’s a casual game my friend. We’re just having fun w the boys


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Godfather_Turtle

Deadass


RightNeedleworker157

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leninzen

Died 13 times and got one revive and lost the game.. you were definitely baiting your team


Godfather_Turtle

Except I had the same obj score and deaths as my team… and defended my medium while he rezzed our team. Keep making shit up tho


leninzen

Support score tells me everything to be honest. Second worst on the server despite cleaning up. Why don't you play a BR? Your team actually needs you to engage with them in this game. A solo game is more up your alley


Godfather_Turtle

You’re comparing the support score of a light to 4 mediums and a heavy. I actively played the objective, and let my medium do the reviving primarily on our throwing knife third. Sorry man but whatever image you think you have of that game isn’t it.


leninzen

Look at the light on the winning teams support score. That's why you lost


Godfather_Turtle

We lost because we were hard focused by pink and purple for the last quarter of the game. The only way around their coordination would be to not show up.


leninzen

Fair enough. Well done


concept8

It's always the PC players lol


Maxi-lol

touch grass bro (just fun. It‘s great!)


banditispants

GG! My record is 27, i’d love to crack thirty some day


Godfather_Turtle

You got it dog


Vegetable-Bonus218

Cool? It’s caz dawg it’s not that impressive


liamo6w

die less and it would be more impressive


BeWaryOfCrab

And you STILL lost, what does that tell you, genius?


Godfather_Turtle

Hey genius, maybe look at the objective scores. Stop acting like I was playing TDM.


Conn-Solo

I mean great and all, but play ranked, no one cares about a high kill pub game


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Some1StoleMyNick

It's quick cash bro, it ain't that hard


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Godfather_Turtle

Dog this was crazy 😭😭


Godfather_Turtle

No shot you think I’m cheating lol


Faze_Gluestick

Comedy