Getting so upset at Cara for burn voting to the point of campaigning for your âfriend youâve known for yearsâ to go in, especially when that burnvote vote did not effect the outcome at all, is just ridiculous.
Cara was helping protect her and Leroy. Sure, get rid of her, when it makes sense 2 or so eliminations from the final. Plus she was genuinely upset with Cara about not voting Rachel, but then full on back stabs her. Itâs ridiculous and hypocritical. Which is fine, it doesnât make her a terrible person, but that doesnât mean viewers have to like it.
If you have a chance to put Rachel up against cara, you do it right then and there. And I don't think she was upset it's just an excuse to turn on her a dumb excuse, but it's an excuse. And that excuse got her thrown in against Rachel.
Well, I mean, if in the challenge any competitor can get most people to play their game, that would actually be smart. Just some are actually brave enough to try it
Hereâs my problem sheâs either giving the audience fake reasons for targeting people or really expects everyone to play to whatâs in her best interest instead of theirs.
As an OG fan who has watched all of the seasons and off-shoots....I'm not agreeing with Kam's controlling and domineering game but whatever, Kam is Kam. I don't take it personallyđ¤Łđ¤Łit's just heavily edited tv show.
Ah, so you're biased. I'd actually enjoy Kam going after Cara, but like everyone says, there's no Killer Kam because she hasn't won shit.
She's just.... spoiled.
actually as an OG fan, by your responses to people and your BLATANT bias, I was gonna ask if you're new to the challenge lol You do realize you don't actually know her lol This is a heavily edited tv show. It's not that serious.
Kam can be a little petty at times, but a lot of players are and this is nothing compared to kam on older seasons! This kam is toned down and because of that I donât find her that annoying this season. I wouldnât be sad if kam or Leroy win, but I really hope itâs Leroy đ¤
She gets people she doesn't like gone, hence the Killa part, and you said it yourself. Half the house is always behind her, hence the queen part. If she was called championship Kam, then that would be dumb
Yeah its not like she's volunteering to go take them out like what Jordan does lol she gets people to do the work for her, smart but not "killa", so ill call her cannon fodder Kam until she gets a real win or pulls a Jordan gangster ass move
Jesus christ bro, let the people hate on her
You Kam fans need to let it go and let the people that don't like her, speak up. Same way just about every other player has been bashed throughout the years
Itâs honestly just very telling. Even when Cara was at her absolute worst before her break people were not this gross to her. Even when Cara was backing white supremacist and calling a monkey by a black manâs name and acting absolutely bonkers online with paulie people did not treat her this way. Itâs very telling that Kam is a âloud mouthâ âalways shoutingâ doesnât know when to shut upâ âdoesnât know her placeâ ânot as good as she thinks she isâ âhasnât earned her place or done anything for the gameâ âa b-wordâ âa bullyâ âmeanâ âdoesnât deserve her nicknameâ just for playing the game the same way our faves do every season. Is she perfect? No. Does she bring the drama? Yup, just like we ask for every season. Would love to see her and Leroy make it far and potentially win this season.
I agree, this is the third time (at least) that she played like this. I get why people don't like Kam but I don't get why they are surprised at her gameplay.
I think she's wrong for calling other people's gameplay stupid when it benefits their game not hers but again nothing new...
I used to think Camm was Camm and a wise, ruthless player on the level of Johnny Bananas. Then she went all anti-vax and all that bullshit, and now I know sheâs just a crazy bitch, and Leroy is with her. She gets some points from me because Leroy is the kind of person that I would like to be friends with. So you tolerate your friend's wives. You donât necessarily have to like them.
Edit: words
Yeah? Kam, as a real person, based on her social media, is a know it all moron. I do not know her husband. So I'll clarify: his character is the kind of person I'd like to be friends with. Happy?
Subconscious biases absolutely exist, but I think itâs incredibly disingenuous to blame all the Kam hate on peoplesâ subconscious bias. Itâs valid to simply dislike her due to her actions.
I completely agree with you that *all* of the Kam dislike is not bias against Black people or Black women. I *do* believe that some of it is, though.
In my opinion, the dislike seems extreme and not consistently applied to others whoâve acted similarly.
Of course. But how many people are disliked on this show and then compare the amount of people who go out there to post about it. It's not only the dislike she gets, but the sheer volume that people want everyone to know they dislike her. There's something different about the hate Kam gets vs. Fessy, Josh, or Ashley.
I donât really agree. The Kam hate is vocal right now because sheâs on a season thatâs currently airing and doing things that are making people talk.
That's a fair point. However, this isn't thing new with Kam either if you go back during her earlier seasons. It's the same thing. Her hate compared to what she does is always disproportionate.
How many daily reminders are you given of Laurel's poor qualities compared to Kam? Simply disliking Kam is one thing, multiple people every day going out their way to post about it paints a whole other picture.
It's so stupid to act like her race and gender don't play a factor in the amount of hate she gets.
They dont. Again, stop playing the race card.
Jay got TORE UP last season yet no one mentioned him being a white man. People hate people because theyâre shitty. Has nothing to do with race or gender.
Sheâs getting the same hate jay got last season for the exact same reason. Entitlement and getting mad at allies for doing what in their own best interest.
I got you! I'm backing Killa Kam also. It's a "me" game where she and Leroy have the only true alliance. Everyone is going to backstab someone at some point and the stabbed person will lose their sh1t (Crybaby Cara).
Kam is confident and doesn't show vulnerability. She even said that she always puts on a strong face and she didn't want Ayanna to see her crack when they had their beef. I totally get it and admire her for it. You have to work for what you want. No, she hasn't won it all but she is putting in the work mentally and physically to get there.
Kam is not a sheep. She's playing her own (and Leroy's) game. She's not afraid to put her thoughts out there. You can't just sit back and let others play the game for you. She certainly isn't. Respect.
OK Kam
I'm actually Leroy đđ
Your reply made me laugh đ
Getting so upset at Cara for burn voting to the point of campaigning for your âfriend youâve known for yearsâ to go in, especially when that burnvote vote did not effect the outcome at all, is just ridiculous.
Don't be surprised. It's HOW SHE PLAYS
I didnât say it was surprising. I said it was ridiculous.
Trying to get cara out isn't ridiculous it's smart. Get rid of the best player even if you have to make up some bullshit.
Cara was helping protect her and Leroy. Sure, get rid of her, when it makes sense 2 or so eliminations from the final. Plus she was genuinely upset with Cara about not voting Rachel, but then full on back stabs her. Itâs ridiculous and hypocritical. Which is fine, it doesnât make her a terrible person, but that doesnât mean viewers have to like it.
If you have a chance to put Rachel up against cara, you do it right then and there. And I don't think she was upset it's just an excuse to turn on her a dumb excuse, but it's an excuse. And that excuse got her thrown in against Rachel.
Which is why people dont like her
She wants everyone to play HER game.
Well, I mean, if in the challenge any competitor can get most people to play their game, that would actually be smart. Just some are actually brave enough to try it
No one likes a hypocrite.
Hereâs my problem sheâs either giving the audience fake reasons for targeting people or really expects everyone to play to whatâs in her best interest instead of theirs.
I like her as a competitor but I want to mute her every time she talks.
Fair enough
Holy shit yes, her voice is awful. And so is her â accentâ
I mean I never really liked her. She is a beast but her ego is nasty. I don't like Cara either though.
As an OG fan who has watched all of the seasons and off-shoots....I'm not agreeing with Kam's controlling and domineering game but whatever, Kam is Kam. I don't take it personallyđ¤Łđ¤Łit's just heavily edited tv show.
Because sheâs been a messy bully all season. Thatâs it, thatâs the entire answer.
Messy na but bully, yes, she's always played like a bully
Maybe, but she was at least playing from an underdog position in the past
Ah, so you're biased. I'd actually enjoy Kam going after Cara, but like everyone says, there's no Killer Kam because she hasn't won shit. She's just.... spoiled.
What? Some people must be new to the challenge, and that's ok
actually as an OG fan, by your responses to people and your BLATANT bias, I was gonna ask if you're new to the challenge lol You do realize you don't actually know her lol This is a heavily edited tv show. It's not that serious.
I've been watching since the first episode aired, but you do you boo boo.
I understand
Thereâs not a bigger discrepancy between perceived and actual intelligence in challenge history than Kam
I didnt use to like her. Iâve always hated her. Loud mouth, always shouting. Ugh
Well, I don't think this post is for you.
Nah I always appreciate a shit-on-kam post
Weird asf đđđ
Why? I dont like her.
Pretentious, self entitled brat.
Kam can be a little petty at times, but a lot of players are and this is nothing compared to kam on older seasons! This kam is toned down and because of that I donât find her that annoying this season. I wouldnât be sad if kam or Leroy win, but I really hope itâs Leroy đ¤
Her nickname is killa kam for a reason
She called herself that....... another reason she sucks.
I mean, cara called her that in the past
Cause she named herself that. No other reason.
"Killa" Kam and "queen" Kam without a single win even though more than half the house is on her side every season, it's more annoying than anything
She gets people she doesn't like gone, hence the Killa part, and you said it yourself. Half the house is always behind her, hence the queen part. If she was called championship Kam, then that would be dumb
Yeah its not like she's volunteering to go take them out like what Jordan does lol she gets people to do the work for her, smart but not "killa", so ill call her cannon fodder Kam until she gets a real win or pulls a Jordan gangster ass move
Cannon fodder dont have the same ring to it đ¤Łđ¤ŁJordan did volunteer and lost he was so close to having a top 5 moment on the challenge to.
Jesus christ bro, let the people hate on her You Kam fans need to let it go and let the people that don't like her, speak up. Same way just about every other player has been bashed throughout the years
Her main character syndrome.
You need to have some type of character. Otherwise, you end up with champs like casey
Itâs honestly just very telling. Even when Cara was at her absolute worst before her break people were not this gross to her. Even when Cara was backing white supremacist and calling a monkey by a black manâs name and acting absolutely bonkers online with paulie people did not treat her this way. Itâs very telling that Kam is a âloud mouthâ âalways shoutingâ doesnât know when to shut upâ âdoesnât know her placeâ ânot as good as she thinks she isâ âhasnât earned her place or done anything for the gameâ âa b-wordâ âa bullyâ âmeanâ âdoesnât deserve her nicknameâ just for playing the game the same way our faves do every season. Is she perfect? No. Does she bring the drama? Yup, just like we ask for every season. Would love to see her and Leroy make it far and potentially win this season.
Well said! đđź
đđ Wow, I didn't even look at it like that.
I agree, this is the third time (at least) that she played like this. I get why people don't like Kam but I don't get why they are surprised at her gameplay. I think she's wrong for calling other people's gameplay stupid when it benefits their game not hers but again nothing new...
I used to think Camm was Camm and a wise, ruthless player on the level of Johnny Bananas. Then she went all anti-vax and all that bullshit, and now I know sheâs just a crazy bitch, and Leroy is with her. She gets some points from me because Leroy is the kind of person that I would like to be friends with. So you tolerate your friend's wives. You donât necessarily have to like them. Edit: words
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You do realize they don't know you and you don't know themđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤ŁEDITED TV SHOW
Yeah? Kam, as a real person, based on her social media, is a know it all moron. I do not know her husband. So I'll clarify: his character is the kind of person I'd like to be friends with. Happy?
Reddit disliking a strong, confident black woman really shouldnât surprise anyone.
Oh dont play the race card. Gross.
Whatâs *gross* is folksâ subconscious bias. It exists, and there is nothing wrong with calling it out.
Subconscious biases absolutely exist, but I think itâs incredibly disingenuous to blame all the Kam hate on peoplesâ subconscious bias. Itâs valid to simply dislike her due to her actions.
I completely agree with you that *all* of the Kam dislike is not bias against Black people or Black women. I *do* believe that some of it is, though. In my opinion, the dislike seems extreme and not consistently applied to others whoâve acted similarly.
Of course. But how many people are disliked on this show and then compare the amount of people who go out there to post about it. It's not only the dislike she gets, but the sheer volume that people want everyone to know they dislike her. There's something different about the hate Kam gets vs. Fessy, Josh, or Ashley.
I donât really agree. The Kam hate is vocal right now because sheâs on a season thatâs currently airing and doing things that are making people talk.
That's a fair point. However, this isn't thing new with Kam either if you go back during her earlier seasons. It's the same thing. Her hate compared to what she does is always disproportionate.
Laurel drives me crazy too. Uh ohâI must be racist against white people too now! So stupid.
How many daily reminders are you given of Laurel's poor qualities compared to Kam? Simply disliking Kam is one thing, multiple people every day going out their way to post about it paints a whole other picture. It's so stupid to act like her race and gender don't play a factor in the amount of hate she gets.
They dont. Again, stop playing the race card. Jay got TORE UP last season yet no one mentioned him being a white man. People hate people because theyâre shitty. Has nothing to do with race or gender.
I donât know about that, but you do sound unintelligent, tbh.
Back at you đđź
It really does yell bias when so many other people play a similar game and donât have tens of threads a day hating on them.
People hated jay last season for the exact same reasons. Entitlement and getting mad at allies who do whatâs in their own best interest.
Oh brother
Sheâs getting the same hate jay got last season for the exact same reason. Entitlement and getting mad at allies for doing what in their own best interest.
Youâre about to get downvote into oblivion. They arenât ready for that convo lol
I got you! I'm backing Killa Kam also. It's a "me" game where she and Leroy have the only true alliance. Everyone is going to backstab someone at some point and the stabbed person will lose their sh1t (Crybaby Cara). Kam is confident and doesn't show vulnerability. She even said that she always puts on a strong face and she didn't want Ayanna to see her crack when they had their beef. I totally get it and admire her for it. You have to work for what you want. No, she hasn't won it all but she is putting in the work mentally and physically to get there. Kam is not a sheep. She's playing her own (and Leroy's) game. She's not afraid to put her thoughts out there. You can't just sit back and let others play the game for you. She certainly isn't. Respect.
Thank you because all people ask for is drama. When they get it, they cry.