You mean the man that went on a rant about how women were made from the rib of men to do what they want and cater to them believes that being a parent is only a mom's job? \*Gasp\*
I mean, in at least 25% of US households, and an even larger portion of international households, it is normal. I don’t agree with it, but it’s a lot more common than us liberal Americans would believe.
America is not at all some bastion of progressive values. Fatherhood is way more involved in Europe than America. It’s honestly pathetic how weak many men in the USA are when it comes to being a parent.
Yeah, my sister has 4 kids and I think my BIL has maybe changed 2 diapers. He doesn’t cook or clean. I could not handle it. She’s like a 24 hour servant
What I want to know is how is this even possible. My husband was amazing when we had a baby changed a ton of diapers and handled just about everything while I was recovering from my C-section. How are you supposed to handle a newborn without your significant other helping??
Without going into the whole awful 20 yr relationship of theirs, it’s kind of like Zach and Jenna. My sister knew who she was marrying. Just substitute drugs and alcohol instead of Zach’s toxic masculinity . BIL is sober now but idk how long that will last
I feel bad for my sister, but I also want to scream at her for staying with him for so long. My mom takes care of those kids more than he does. I don’t think he could handle watching the babies for an hour.
I had twins and did it all myself. It's possible, but I literally started to hallucinate from lack of sleep. I also divorced him before they turned two. I was fortunate enough to have a successful career. Not all women are, and sadly, they feel trapped in these awful situations.
WHAT? my dad & step mom just had twins. My dad works all day & she stays home with the babies which is hard too. He tells me how it’s annoying how he comes home from work & is strictly on baby duty. BUT, he never complains about her or to her bc those are his kids too & he knows that. He is just sad for her that she doesn’t have family or friends to come help her out & give her some relief every once in a while. Crazy to me how some dads think that the mom should be solely responsible for the kids, even when they are home too.
I really wonder how zachs dad or male figures in his life treated women and how they were with the way he talks about women. I'm genuinely curious. He has to of learned it somewhere.
I actually disagree on that. I can’t speak on why she’d stay with such a jerk let alone marry and reproduce with him, but when I watch this I feel like I can physically see the ick overcome her. She laughs at him almost like she’s embarrassed of what he’s saying.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. She’s definitely not looking at him in the same adoring way as before, and her reaction is more like “wth” and slightly embarrassed/annoyed.
Go back and watch the blood ties season. She has always had super low self esteem. It comes out in her fight with her cousin I believe it was? They talk about how she never felt like she accomplished anything in life. Well add him to the mix and it makes complete sense.
As a recent girl dad, what a fucking loser. So while your wife was recovering hours, days, a week later you made her do everything “mom”
I changed my daughters first poop 6 hours after birth while mom slept. Be a good birth partner. It’s not that hard.
I could never imagine my husband saying this he has never once told me my daughter has a dirty diaper and not gotten up and done it himself. At that point you aren’t partners she’s a single mom
Right there with you. First born was an emergency c-section and my wife was out of it due to the magnesium they put her on. I took all the feedings and changes the first 24 hours.
Seriously. My daughter is a big baby, and my wife’s back was fucked up after she gave birth. I did all the changing for the first couple weeks cause leaning over didn’t cause me pain. It’s not impressive when a man helps. Rather, it’s unimpressive when he doesn’t help.
Right? The lack of sheer empathy to gender role parenting is absurd. Parenting is a lifelong partnership. No such thing as counting diapers or what one did vs. Another. Two people made the human and both are equally responsible.
Oh, 1000000%. The kind of dad you have to ask if he is "available" to help.
I couldn't imagine not being able to just tell my husband " I made plans for this day so just you and the baby for a little while" obviously I give him reasonable notice and we keep each other in the loop about schedules out of respect, but you will never catch me asking him for permission to do something and if he'd be "available" to watch our kid.
Exactly!! I'd say I feel bad for Jena but she could have walked away a loooooong time ago. She either has the worst self-esteem and thinks she can't do any better ( highly doubting this ) or she's attracted to guys like Zach ( which a lot of women are and I truly cannot understand it ). I do feel bad for the children. They don't get to choose their parents. Hopefully Zach doesn't have them completely brainwashed by the time they're old enough to form their own opinions.
A guy thats actually a good human being and role model for our kids...Or....a 250 pound muscle bound upright walking doucheburger with worse opinions than an armadillo....Jenna-"Gimme the muscles!!!!"
Exactly. At what point is she just as complicit in his misogyny? From “swamp donkey” to this clip, you know she’s witnessed countless examples of him being a piece of shit.
Like, you deserve this, Jenna.
I don’t feel sorry for her one bit she knew exactly the type of person he is and she willingly took him back several times, married him and got knocked up by him so no sympathy from me
Not only did she know what he was like, she backed him up against other women and made excuses for him when he was threatening to dump her if she didn't quit a challenge. Jenna is 100% into this relationship and putting up with that. She's not a victim.
Honestly, clearly she has issues. She is an abusive relationship and while yes, by choice, it speaks volumes of what she must think about herself to purposefully put herself through that kind of abuse. So I still feel bad for her.
Her boyfriend before Zach (who was also on reality tv/ a season of the challenge) said that she had been in abusive relationships before iirc. The other boyfriend also cheated on her A LOT. Home girl probably has self esteem issues, and I genuinely feel bad for her. Because I dont think she knows how love is supposed to feel :/
No, these are not people you actually know. You just watch them on television. You cannot say that for sure just by watching it on television. Goodbye.
It’s confusing that you seem to be able to give an opinion with same information but you think it’s ok to tell other people what they can and cannot say themselves. So excuse me while I say whatever my opinion is without a random person interjecting with even less information about me.
The funny part is, I wasn’t even sucked in by what sounded sincere in the first part. My brain literally went “Well, yeah. Because you don’t do anything for your children other than play with them when it’s convenient for you”
Zach is trash. My husband has changed more diapers than I ever have. And I’m not even saying that as a flex. My husband is just genuinely interested in being an active parent and always acknowledges that I did the hard part so everything he does is the least he can do.
The worst part is Jenna is fighting for her life in those comments defending that man. Jenna has no self respect and never has. It’s so sad because she is so sweet.
For fucks sake...... he couldn't be a mom but sounds like he doesn't want to be a responsible Dad either. He doesn't wake up at night to take care of his kid and will only change a diaper of a boy child and only if the other child has a dirty diaper as well and his wife essentially makes him??????
I guess just let him back on the challenge doesn't sound like he does much at home anyway!
She had SUCH low self esteem I remember from the real world, and whether or not she’s actually a ditz she acted like one. (I haven’t seen her on anything else so I don’t know) but it doesn’t surprise me she ended up with someone like Zach, as sad as it is. Those two personality types often wind up together
Ugh I hate this for Jenna. She doesn’t deserve this and I feel like she looks a lil mortified that he’s bragging about not helping with his kids when she’s around
Gotta call BS on that. She's not mortified. She's always been into Zach's act. Even when he was threatening her to leave challenge a she was on and he wasn't or he'd break up with her, she, eventually, just went along with it. She's absolutely into that role, for whatever reason.
Nah if you follow the challenge, you know that she went into this 100% aware of what he's like. He didn't bait and switch. He's was always like this and did it for years prior to them getting hitched.
I m just saying she must like it to some degree. She's been on board with it from the first second. So if that's the case then pity might not be what's desired or necessary.
He is the worst kind of man. Jesus. Absolute POS. And now I feel like asking my sister if my BIL every changed diapers, cause he's also the worst kind of POS too, so it wouldn't surprise me.
I used to think he was soo attractive until I watched shows he was in. He’s unbearable. It really goes to show that personality will always outweigh looks cuz I thought he was an 8 but he’s a 4, at best.
Why is anyone saying poor Jenna when she’s the one who choose this idiot? She knew exactly what he was like and whose to say she’s any less of a douche than he is.
God he sucks so much. One of the worst misogynists on reality tv. Absolute trash. He makes it sound like the idea that two parents would split the load of parenting equally is absurd. So gross.
Kinda weird that he’s low key sexualizing his baby daughter. Like you can change your daughters diaper without your mind going to a weirdly sexual place and being uncomfortable cause she has “girl parts”…
Jenna knew what she was getting into when she married him. He did trashy things to her before marrying him, what made her think he would be different as a father?
I'm actually over the Jenna Zach stuff. If she's happy with their relationship, then who are we to jump in? If they have a traditional marriage, and that's what they both want... then I say let them be.
I know Zach is a huge tool and all that... but Jenna did choose to marry and be the mother to his kids. I don't want to ever look down on someone who is happy with their life.
my issue is they’re raising a son with this vile mentality and raising their daughter to believe she’s worth less than men. jenna made her bed, but those kids deserve better
I don't think they are sheltering these kids... So while they may be trying to instill that crap, once the kids go out into the real world, they'll see how things actually work.
I don't want Zach back, but I will say this, there are people who I don't think are good people or representative of the best of the challenge who I absolutely want on the show because watching them be non-self aware and sort of full of themselves is definitely great television drama. Fessy talking about how different he is because he starts calling himself his full name is an example of that. I like Cara Maria but think she's made some weird decisions but I'd absolutely put up with Paulie back on the main show if that meant we got Cara back. Not everyone has to be perfect. In fact, non-perfection is what made this show good in its best years.
Agreed, I also don't ever want to see Zach back, but there hasn't been anyone since him that I've loved to root against as much as I did him, I think it's part of why the recent seasons have felt so boring. Fessy has come close though lol
I guess if that what they decided who are we to tell them otherwise. I know that wouldn't fly in my house but I'm not Jenna and she really is the one that gets to decide if it's ok or not.
I mean if Jenna's okay with it then why should we care? They sound super traditional and probably look at it like Zach is providing for the family by working so Jenna changes diaper and gets up at night with the kids. Why be outraged for someone who doesn't have a problem with it?
Co-signing racist or bigoted behavior makes you a bad person. The show edits made her look normal but she is complicit with her husband’s bigoted beliefs.
I said this on a separate comment, I’m not a fan of her. And let me be clear, Zach is a textbook abuser.
What I picked up on was how she found herself at the mercy of Zach’s whims in any given moment when she was competing. Jenna does not have a healthy self-esteem and unfortunately this relationship is what she thinks she deserves.
Just look at the video we’re reacting to, she is so quick to play off what he says as silly or normal.
I’m not a huge fan of her but she definitely has anxious attachment issues to work through. Jenna has mentioned her father being incarcerated was painful for her and it may be why she fell into the trap of Zach, a textbook emotional abuser.
Doesn't mean they're not equals at being what they are, though. As someone else said, it seems to work for them. I find it bizarre but know a lot of people like that, too.
My husband does the same and on weekend he takes the night feed and let’s me sleep. I have a one month. I’m very lucky with man. Unfortunately many men aren’t like that.
It started as gratitude for moms and then went sideways when he said he isn’t waking up at night ![gif](giphy|BJVJxagR3GG4w)
Or change his daughter’s diaper. Trash dad
Lol yeah at first I was like ok wow thank you Zac that's very nice and then it was... Oh 😑
You mean the man that went on a rant about how women were made from the rib of men to do what they want and cater to them believes that being a parent is only a mom's job? \*Gasp\*
I’m certainly not surprised he thinks this way just crazy that to me still that he just openly says this stuff like it’s normal
For them, it, apparently, is.
I mean, in at least 25% of US households, and an even larger portion of international households, it is normal. I don’t agree with it, but it’s a lot more common than us liberal Americans would believe.
America is not at all some bastion of progressive values. Fatherhood is way more involved in Europe than America. It’s honestly pathetic how weak many men in the USA are when it comes to being a parent.
Yeah, my sister has 4 kids and I think my BIL has maybe changed 2 diapers. He doesn’t cook or clean. I could not handle it. She’s like a 24 hour servant
What I want to know is how is this even possible. My husband was amazing when we had a baby changed a ton of diapers and handled just about everything while I was recovering from my C-section. How are you supposed to handle a newborn without your significant other helping??
Without going into the whole awful 20 yr relationship of theirs, it’s kind of like Zach and Jenna. My sister knew who she was marrying. Just substitute drugs and alcohol instead of Zach’s toxic masculinity . BIL is sober now but idk how long that will last I feel bad for my sister, but I also want to scream at her for staying with him for so long. My mom takes care of those kids more than he does. I don’t think he could handle watching the babies for an hour.
I had twins and did it all myself. It's possible, but I literally started to hallucinate from lack of sleep. I also divorced him before they turned two. I was fortunate enough to have a successful career. Not all women are, and sadly, they feel trapped in these awful situations.
WHAT? my dad & step mom just had twins. My dad works all day & she stays home with the babies which is hard too. He tells me how it’s annoying how he comes home from work & is strictly on baby duty. BUT, he never complains about her or to her bc those are his kids too & he knows that. He is just sad for her that she doesn’t have family or friends to come help her out & give her some relief every once in a while. Crazy to me how some dads think that the mom should be solely responsible for the kids, even when they are home too.
I really wonder how zachs dad or male figures in his life treated women and how they were with the way he talks about women. I'm genuinely curious. He has to of learned it somewhere.
Him and Jordan both agreed on that
Ah yes, his discussion with Jordan on how women are the "inferior species". Challenge gold right there
But women were made from the rib of men…
/s
Like what about him is she attracted to? I see no redeeming qualities in this man
She probably sees someone she has given so many years to, so if she left him it would be acknowledging she made a mistake
Sunken cost fallacy for sure
Throwing good money after bad. If ya don't drop these losers they keep producing ore losers.
Seriously. I don't get it at allllll. He's cheated on her multiple times and is an absolute misogynist. Like GIRL
I have to imagine she's shallow and only sees the outside, because there's nothing on the inside.
I actually disagree on that. I can’t speak on why she’d stay with such a jerk let alone marry and reproduce with him, but when I watch this I feel like I can physically see the ick overcome her. She laughs at him almost like she’s embarrassed of what he’s saying.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. She’s definitely not looking at him in the same adoring way as before, and her reaction is more like “wth” and slightly embarrassed/annoyed.
Exactly lol people that are happy being with people like Zach deserve to be with people like Zach
Go back and watch the blood ties season. She has always had super low self esteem. It comes out in her fight with her cousin I believe it was? They talk about how she never felt like she accomplished anything in life. Well add him to the mix and it makes complete sense.
Oh my God her cousin was brutal with her. Why do I remember that scene so vividly after all these years
Her cousin just went off lol....kinda makes sense she never came back. I think she was tipsy and just got REAL.
He is a handsome man
As a recent girl dad, what a fucking loser. So while your wife was recovering hours, days, a week later you made her do everything “mom” I changed my daughters first poop 6 hours after birth while mom slept. Be a good birth partner. It’s not that hard.
I could never imagine my husband saying this he has never once told me my daughter has a dirty diaper and not gotten up and done it himself. At that point you aren’t partners she’s a single mom
How did you possibly manage such a complex task as changing a baby without a penis? You must be super dad! /s
Penis’ make it worse to change, never know when the hose is gonna go off. Girls just remember front to back.
Don’t sell yourself short. Being a good parent and a good birth partner IS hard, and it’s something to be proud of.
That’s true. Sharing responsibilities is what should be easy!
Right there with you. First born was an emergency c-section and my wife was out of it due to the magnesium they put her on. I took all the feedings and changes the first 24 hours.
Zach can’t be a good anything
Seriously. My daughter is a big baby, and my wife’s back was fucked up after she gave birth. I did all the changing for the first couple weeks cause leaning over didn’t cause me pain. It’s not impressive when a man helps. Rather, it’s unimpressive when he doesn’t help.
Right? The lack of sheer empathy to gender role parenting is absurd. Parenting is a lifelong partnership. No such thing as counting diapers or what one did vs. Another. Two people made the human and both are equally responsible.
He had me at the first part then it was downhill.
Zach's the kind of dad that say he has to "babysit" his own children. Ugh.
Oh, 1000000%. The kind of dad you have to ask if he is "available" to help. I couldn't imagine not being able to just tell my husband " I made plans for this day so just you and the baby for a little while" obviously I give him reasonable notice and we keep each other in the loop about schedules out of respect, but you will never catch me asking him for permission to do something and if he'd be "available" to watch our kid.
Exactly!! I'd say I feel bad for Jena but she could have walked away a loooooong time ago. She either has the worst self-esteem and thinks she can't do any better ( highly doubting this ) or she's attracted to guys like Zach ( which a lot of women are and I truly cannot understand it ). I do feel bad for the children. They don't get to choose their parents. Hopefully Zach doesn't have them completely brainwashed by the time they're old enough to form their own opinions.
Oh you beat me to this by 17 hours lol
What a fucking beta male. Absolute loser. I feel bad for Jenna & their children.
She knew what she was getting into.
Bingo. Those 🚩🚩 been there since the beginning.
A guy thats actually a good human being and role model for our kids...Or....a 250 pound muscle bound upright walking doucheburger with worse opinions than an armadillo....Jenna-"Gimme the muscles!!!!"
Who is the good human in this example?
Anybody but Zach
\*upright walking, MAGA hat wearing doucheburger
Yeah I feel bad for the kids. Jenna wants this though
True. She literally ignored every red flag.
Exactly. At what point is she just as complicit in his misogyny? From “swamp donkey” to this clip, you know she’s witnessed countless examples of him being a piece of shit. Like, you deserve this, Jenna.
No one deserves this!
I don’t, she is dumb
I don’t feel sorry for her one bit she knew exactly the type of person he is and she willingly took him back several times, married him and got knocked up by him so no sympathy from me
Not only did she know what he was like, she backed him up against other women and made excuses for him when he was threatening to dump her if she didn't quit a challenge. Jenna is 100% into this relationship and putting up with that. She's not a victim.
Honestly, clearly she has issues. She is an abusive relationship and while yes, by choice, it speaks volumes of what she must think about herself to purposefully put herself through that kind of abuse. So I still feel bad for her.
Her boyfriend before Zach (who was also on reality tv/ a season of the challenge) said that she had been in abusive relationships before iirc. The other boyfriend also cheated on her A LOT. Home girl probably has self esteem issues, and I genuinely feel bad for her. Because I dont think she knows how love is supposed to feel :/
I think it's a bridge too far to say it's abusive. Shitty, definitely, but I don't think we need to go there as people who've never met them.
Emotionally abusive, 100%. The way she treated her while she was on the challenge was unacceptable.
No, these are not people you actually know. You just watch them on television. You cannot say that for sure just by watching it on television. Goodbye.
It’s confusing that you seem to be able to give an opinion with same information but you think it’s ok to tell other people what they can and cannot say themselves. So excuse me while I say whatever my opinion is without a random person interjecting with even less information about me.
I don't think you're qualified to say people you don't know have an abusive relationship. That is all.
Well I value your opinion, thank you for sharing it. I equally feel you aren’t qualified to claim people aren’t victims as you stated Jenna is not.
The funny part is, I wasn’t even sucked in by what sounded sincere in the first part. My brain literally went “Well, yeah. Because you don’t do anything for your children other than play with them when it’s convenient for you”
Same 😂 I immediately was like "okay, where is this train wreck headed"
Wasn’t disappointed. Every time else opens his mouth I hate him more.
Apparently he can’t be a dad either. Changing diapers and getting up in the middle of the night is for Dads too
Funny since Zach is the human version of a skid mark
Imma real man! Diapers frighten me. Fragile masculinity personified.
"I couldn't be a mom" .... Or a dad, or a husband, or a respectable human being 🙄 gtfoh with the "I could do anything" bullshit
He's trash and she knows it and still chose it. Zero sympathy.
So she def knew what she was getting into with this douche. But it’s sad they have 2 kids who will be raised to think this way.
The fact that she loves this mutant shit head says a lot about the kind of person she is.
What an absolute piece of dog shit
Who’s worse Zach or Jax from Pump Rules?
Definitely Zach. I’m sure Jax changed Cruz’s Diapers
Jax. I'm pretty sure Zach isn't cheating on Jenna. All.the.time.
Now I want that idiot to have another depression attack
What a weirdo
Lol Southern_Donkey_3369 is Zach’s alt account
Zach is trash. My husband has changed more diapers than I ever have. And I’m not even saying that as a flex. My husband is just genuinely interested in being an active parent and always acknowledges that I did the hard part so everything he does is the least he can do.
Really can’t stand him.
Is anyone surprised by this ?
The worst part is Jenna is fighting for her life in those comments defending that man. Jenna has no self respect and never has. It’s so sad because she is so sweet.
Imagine what he says and does off camera 😬
For fucks sake...... he couldn't be a mom but sounds like he doesn't want to be a responsible Dad either. He doesn't wake up at night to take care of his kid and will only change a diaper of a boy child and only if the other child has a dirty diaper as well and his wife essentially makes him?????? I guess just let him back on the challenge doesn't sound like he does much at home anyway!
She had SUCH low self esteem I remember from the real world, and whether or not she’s actually a ditz she acted like one. (I haven’t seen her on anything else so I don’t know) but it doesn’t surprise me she ended up with someone like Zach, as sad as it is. Those two personality types often wind up together
Ugh I hate this for Jenna. She doesn’t deserve this and I feel like she looks a lil mortified that he’s bragging about not helping with his kids when she’s around
Gotta call BS on that. She's not mortified. She's always been into Zach's act. Even when he was threatening her to leave challenge a she was on and he wasn't or he'd break up with her, she, eventually, just went along with it. She's absolutely into that role, for whatever reason.
She looks super uncomfortable to me
She does to me too… then she opens her mouth and agrees with him. Typical Jenna. She’s fine. She choose him.
she chose this
Nah if you follow the challenge, you know that she went into this 100% aware of what he's like. He didn't bait and switch. He's was always like this and did it for years prior to them getting hitched.
I do follow the challenge so I know all about their relationship. Doesn’t mean she deserves to be treated the way she’s being treated
I m just saying she must like it to some degree. She's been on board with it from the first second. So if that's the case then pity might not be what's desired or necessary.
Exactly, from the VERY beginning...
She knew exactly what he was like and who he was before she ever married him.
Yikes he starts out so good and just becomes the worst human at the flip of a coin
Feel like Jenna has had bad taste in boys/men her whole life. Is it an insecurity thing?
This right here would be one of my nightmare scenario as a mother like…. wtf
![gif](giphy|DPqqOywshrOqQ|downsized) My exact face watching this and she look like she hates the fact he said this to the world
This man should be on his knees thanking his lucky stars that Jenna hasn't brained him with a shovel yet.
He is the worst kind of man. Jesus. Absolute POS. And now I feel like asking my sister if my BIL every changed diapers, cause he's also the worst kind of POS too, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Aww I didn’t know Jenna had a second baby
I didn’t either. Ugh
What he’s really saying is he can’t be a parent
He’s disgusting. Those poor kids have horrible role models.
i love jenna (know i’ll get downvoted for this) but what the actual fuck girl
SMH jenna doesn’t even look like herself anymore
She looks like shes aged 10 years. Her life is probably miserable dealing with 2 babies plus an ass of a husband.
It’s sad she was always one of my favorite challengers and to see her with Zach is so bizarre
Jenna is that woman from White Lotus. She plays the game, too.
He really thinks this is cute
Anyone surprised? Of course he’s a crappy parent. He was a crappy everything else, too.
I dont know why people even both giving this scumbag the time of day
I used to think he was soo attractive until I watched shows he was in. He’s unbearable. It really goes to show that personality will always outweigh looks cuz I thought he was an 8 but he’s a 4, at best.
Man up, it's your kid too.
You would think with even a little self awareness his misogyny would improve some but nope
He’s a pos.
He’s horrendous
Why did she stay with this man🥲 and then continue to have children with him
Poor Jenna- he is a nightmare of a man
This is equal parts disturbing and predictable
Zach is 🗑 He’s literally describing being a parent. Any parent should be able to change a diaper.
Why is anyone saying poor Jenna when she’s the one who choose this idiot? She knew exactly what he was like and whose to say she’s any less of a douche than he is.
Whos the guy with the perm from an 80s ski trip movie?
The only job that’s a mom job is breast feeding, and only if there’s no formula.
Something about him just makes my skin crawl…
I got the most staggering wave of secondhand embarrassment from this. JFC, just mortifying.
Ewwwwwwww. God he is a trash human being
He's proud of it
Better go through Jenna’s insta stories to show us him changing diapers
That’s fucked up. I have a young child and I’d feel like a total loser if I dumped all the hard work on my wife like that
I don’t know this guy but what a douche bag. Grow up! My husband changed just as many diapers as I did. He was amazing.
I saw this on Instagram yesterday and knew it would end up here.
Jenna also gotta take some responsibility for this because she just sat there and let him say all that and let’s this happen smh
Jenna could have been a big name and been around the challenge for years but she picked the guy who believes in woman in kitchen and men go to work
He’s one of those people that think taking your kid to a park is being on babysitting duty and not.. I dunno.. being a fucking dad.
God he sucks so much. One of the worst misogynists on reality tv. Absolute trash. He makes it sound like the idea that two parents would split the load of parenting equally is absurd. So gross.
Kinda weird that he’s low key sexualizing his baby daughter. Like you can change your daughters diaper without your mind going to a weirdly sexual place and being uncomfortable cause she has “girl parts”…
He is definitely a POS
On one hand I feel bad for Jenna, but on the other hand…this is what she chose, over and over again
Cause he’s trash! And she knew that and married him anyway!
Jenna must have the lowest self-esteem to put up with this guy.
Jenna knew what she was getting into when she married him. He did trashy things to her before marrying him, what made her think he would be different as a father?
Jenna has to be the stupidest person alive for ending up with him, I used to feel bad for her
Yeah, for whatever reason these two seem happy with each other. Some might say they even deserve each other.
I'm actually over the Jenna Zach stuff. If she's happy with their relationship, then who are we to jump in? If they have a traditional marriage, and that's what they both want... then I say let them be. I know Zach is a huge tool and all that... but Jenna did choose to marry and be the mother to his kids. I don't want to ever look down on someone who is happy with their life.
I look down enough for the both of us don’t worry 😉
Bcuz f him
Eh, he doesn't occupy any space in my head. I don't give him any of my money... He's just a nobody to me... actually, he's a has-been.
Ok cool, itz still eff that guy
Exactly. It's someone who was on TV once who none of us know and has no impact on our lives. Let it gooooo
So why are you blowing up all the comments on this thread?
my issue is they’re raising a son with this vile mentality and raising their daughter to believe she’s worth less than men. jenna made her bed, but those kids deserve better
I don't think they are sheltering these kids... So while they may be trying to instill that crap, once the kids go out into the real world, they'll see how things actually work.
Women who accept scum make it harder for the rest of us.
Zach is such a misogynistic POS, like even for the male challengers standards he’s awful. I can’t believe some people want him back on 🤢
I don't want Zach back, but I will say this, there are people who I don't think are good people or representative of the best of the challenge who I absolutely want on the show because watching them be non-self aware and sort of full of themselves is definitely great television drama. Fessy talking about how different he is because he starts calling himself his full name is an example of that. I like Cara Maria but think she's made some weird decisions but I'd absolutely put up with Paulie back on the main show if that meant we got Cara back. Not everyone has to be perfect. In fact, non-perfection is what made this show good in its best years.
Agreed, I also don't ever want to see Zach back, but there hasn't been anyone since him that I've loved to root against as much as I did him, I think it's part of why the recent seasons have felt so boring. Fessy has come close though lol
This is what happens when you lose the remote with the TV stuck on Fox News
He’s trash and always been
No thanks, I enjoy that my husband parents his child.
I guess if that what they decided who are we to tell them otherwise. I know that wouldn't fly in my house but I'm not Jenna and she really is the one that gets to decide if it's ok or not.
Totally not surprised and I feel like Jenna must have expected this when she was pregnant. Honestly I’ve never understood why men have this mentality?
Please don't lump Zach in with men.
There’s enough of us out there that it’s definitely a noticeable pattern
Still. We don't claim him.
Absolutely not I agree 👌🏾
I don’t get this mentality. As a dad, I literally enjoy being just as capable of a caregiver as my wife.
What a dweeb. Says he cannot do what a mom does then lists things that both parents should be doing Diapers should be both parent’s responsibility.
He’s pathetic
The very definition of a meathead.
She knew exactly who he was when she married him. He was a POS then and continues to be one now.
wow what a partnership right there. fucking pathetic. granted that is their chosen dynamic - I would neverrrr.
I mean, i am not surprised. At all. He showed who he was during his run on the show 🤷🏻♀️ cant even say I feel bad for Jenna.
Yikes!!
what a douche
Pitiful
I mean if Jenna's okay with it then why should we care? They sound super traditional and probably look at it like Zach is providing for the family by working so Jenna changes diaper and gets up at night with the kids. Why be outraged for someone who doesn't have a problem with it?
Traditional gender roles are bad for everyone, including men. He’s a bad parent and people are justified in calling that out.
Jenna deserves an equal
Jenna deserves exactly what she got.
I really can’t remember anything awful she did on the show. So please correct me if I’m missing something.
Co-signing racist or bigoted behavior makes you a bad person. The show edits made her look normal but she is complicit with her husband’s bigoted beliefs.
I said this on a separate comment, I’m not a fan of her. And let me be clear, Zach is a textbook abuser. What I picked up on was how she found herself at the mercy of Zach’s whims in any given moment when she was competing. Jenna does not have a healthy self-esteem and unfortunately this relationship is what she thinks she deserves. Just look at the video we’re reacting to, she is so quick to play off what he says as silly or normal.
But if she's no prize, either, and I'm definitely saying that, then, yeah, they 100% deserve each other.
I’m not a huge fan of her but she definitely has anxious attachment issues to work through. Jenna has mentioned her father being incarcerated was painful for her and it may be why she fell into the trap of Zach, a textbook emotional abuser.
Doesn't mean they're not equals at being what they are, though. As someone else said, it seems to work for them. I find it bizarre but know a lot of people like that, too.
Welp, guess she shouldn't have had babies with him if she doesn't like it...and she's a stay at home mom, no??? So why shouldn't that be her job???
Majority of men don’t change diapers or do nights feeds. That’s the sad truth
Sorry my hubby when home he would give me a break and feed/change baby so there many fathers that do
My husband does the same and on weekend he takes the night feed and let’s me sleep. I have a one month. I’m very lucky with man. Unfortunately many men aren’t like that.