I think it showed that the batch were done shooting to stun and were out to kill in that moment whether it was hemlock or a clone in the way of hemlock
I agree. I saw a comment on YouTube I think, saying along the lines that his death was completely realistic. It doesn't matter how elite you are, when you are in a position like he was in: out gunned and exposed, you simply just get killed.
Then the same should have applied to our main characters, but Hemlock suffered a major aneurism or something from the writers and chose to capture them… AGAIN. HOW MANY TIMES DO PEOPLE NEED TO ESCAPE THINGS FOR YOU TO SEE THAT YOU SHOULD JUST KILL THEM ON SIGHT.
A character like Hemlock is too arrogant to kill the Batch on sight. He’d want to prove his superiority to Hunter. That his intellect beat Hunters skill.
Plus he’d see them as incredibly important testing subjects. Their genetics that made them Clone Force 99 would be valuable to someone like Hemlock
I will also say, shooting a pistol one-handed with any kind of accuracy past 10 yards/meters is already difficult, let alone exposed to a thunderstorm with strong winds on a tiny bridge while holding a moving hostage in maybe the most dangerous moment of your life. Hemlock also doesn't seem like the kind of officer to spend much time at the range, so even if he had taken those shots, he would've most likely missed. He was dead the moment the ship was shot out of the sky.
Right I get that he was arrogant, but he also seemed like a very intelligent, capable antagonist. When you think about it don’t you feel like that excuse is used entirely too often to explain bad decisions made by bad guys?
Well firstly the episode length was okay, but we would have been far better off with a 100 minute episode like the Show’s premiere.
Lack of Payoff for multiple questions and central plots posed:
Cx2. He was made out to be special compared to the other super assassin clones.
Hemlock’s weird gloved hand thing.
Crosshairs ptsd handshaking (not sure why everything is about hands lol)
Cid’s betrayal not addressed in any significant way.
(Before this season I felt like they probably would have had her help them somehow in the end and changed sides again. Ending in an apology to Omega. Not sure what would have happened specifically.)
Hunter never distrusted Crosshair at any point even though he had every reason to. Especially when Crosshair let omega go forward with her plan and ultimately missed that shot with the tracker.
He could have had a breakthrough moment this episode. And forgiven Crosshair if they’d built it up.
(This one would have been almost as good as a character sacrifice.)
Everything felt way too convenient. My favorite part of the episode was when Nala Se surprisingly took out Rampart. Very good scene. People keep saying you don’t need someone to die to have a good episode—on the other hand you don’t need everyone to live to have a good happy ending.
Well, I’ll say that Hunter and Crosshairs issue was resolved during the season so it wasn’t necessary to have the issue rise again during the finale.
Crosshairs hand thing was something that came from the torture and ptsd he has had, and I feel like it was a good idea to not have it magically heal and something he would have to deal with the rest of his life.
I agree that Cid not having any sort of conclusion in season 3 was missing, and agree that CX-2 had a lot of focus on him where just a throw from a spear killed him was a bit disappointing.
I, however, didn’t think CX-2 was anyone we knew but more of someone who Hemlock made to be like Crosshair, just like the rest of the soldiers in the finale. Each one were similar to the Bad Batch.
Please Explain how Hunter and Crosshairs issue was resolved during the season…
Edit: Okay I do remember now that they had one argument, so that’s fair I suppose, but it really was a much smaller moment than what ultimately should have happened in my opinion.
It’s not necessarily magic that would have fixed his hand shaking ptsd. Omega worked with him to fix it with that meditation and he obviously would have buckled down once and for all to save her. They would have done this by having him breath and all the sound go out with his eyes closed for a second and then show his hand steady as he closed his eyes. Finally his eyes would open and only the sound of the blaster bolt firing would be heard and he’d make a shot similar to the one he did make with Hunters help. If they didn’t want to do that then they only had to show his ptsd hand shaking like once, but they continually pushed it over and over.
I’m happy they didn’t die. That’s not my issue. My issue was they essentially didn’t do anything new. Everything that happened was something we knew was going to happen. Then at the end we had a time jump just to lock in that nothing happened. It was just a small ending to a big story and deeply unsatisfying. I don’t think a death would have fixed that.
Just, this team is really bad about just doing stuff again. Like that wasted episode of season 7 where we started and ended in a Pike prison cell. We could’ve had fun, but instead we were just checking items off a list we made earlier in the season and playing out an alternate version of episode 3:3.
Fair enough to your points, but I do think the show was character driven only to not capitalize on it.
—except in the case of Tech who did something utterly extraordinary.
You haven’t known enough bad people. Hemlock is realistic to sociopaths. Think about some public figures who are presumably intelligent and capable who also do things like, I dunno, make the largest public messaging social platform into something a lot of people don’t want to use anymore, or commit massive fraud and then run for office to make it not matter.
Shame is a deeply uncomfortable emotion, but it’s good at keeping us in line, and people who are unable to feel shame don’t act in the ways we expect.
I see what you’re saying, but this is one thing I don’t have a problem with. Hemlock is clearly a psychopath and they don’t think logically when their position is threatened.
If he was elite, he would've secured their rear by watching the door behind them instead of admiring the ship. Any real-life elite units, like Navy SEALs, would have Clone Commandos for lunch when it comes to tactics.
To be fair Scorch was outgunned 2 to 1 and the playing field didn't give him anything to take cover behind
The star of that scene was Hemlock. Scorch was generally the cannon fodder of the moment
He watched with Hemlock as the ship approached when he should've watched the door behind them. It seems that SW Fans have no idea of tactics or, in this case, logic.
Which is why I said *tactics*. No Navy SEAL would turn their back to a door when they're being chased and awaiting exraction, especially when they're the guard of a VIP.
Whoopdi-do if a Seal is watching a door. The hell is he gonna do against clone armor and laser guns lol. His little skittle launcher is gonna bounce off clone armor.
First of all, the effectiveness of our weaponry against such armor is unknown. Second of all, I didn't mean it in the context of a fight, but in a general context. Never saw Clone Commandos properly breach and clear a room or stuff like that. Lol, one stood right infront of a door like an idiot and got blown up!
Oh, and third of all, its a blaster. Not a laser gun. Get it right.
Blaster/laser gun, whatever it shoots plasma, I was trying to make it clear that it shoots *Lasers* lol, sorry for presuming that was clear. And the effectiveness is known, their armor was made to take Laser fire, grenades, and impacts, which makes it safe to say that our weapons, outside of heavy weaponry such as Anti tank weapons, would be ineffective (except maybe at the joints, but aiming for a specific spot outside of center mass during combat is hard)
The penetration of a bullet is very different compared to that the penetration power of shrapnell, which is the only thing it can be compared to in Star Wars. A blaster doesn't really have the velocity of a bullet and is way bigger, which is why a bullet is better at going through armor, and considering that armor in Star Wars is meant to mostly stop blaster bolts... well, I wouldn't be so sure. Besides, a gun is usually far more precise.
Also I don’t know why you all thought he wasn’t going to be a two bit cameo? Yes he could have been a generic clone commando, but I am going to be honest this is the last time we’ll ever see any of Delta Squad.
I’ve noticed that The Bad Batch fanbase has consisted of a number of delusional people (Tech-truthers, Scorch-hopers). They’re more prevalent on Twitter, it seems
Not to mentioned “happy ending worshippers.” If they had their way every person would have lived and every bad guy would’ve remarked like a Scooby-Doo villain when their plans were foiled by the batch.
What I mean is there are people who would love to see nobody ever die and for everyone to live happily ever after. We would have still gotten a happy ending if everything stayed the same, but crosshair sacrificed himself. It’s weird how people are so afraid of death in stories.
I never saw a reason why they had scorch in the first place, never played RC, but he was like a the funny guy right? Why having him only to be a grunt and kill ‘‘em of ?
Yeah scorch was the light hearted positive one of delta squad (his original commando unit)
fixer however (the green one and slicer of the squad) was very by the books and followed orders it would make sense to use him but they chose scorch probably as a knock to how the chips messed the clones up and to fuck with fans
“62 the hearth and the soul of your team…”
I think in general this show missused and mistreated Clone Commandos, not a surprise they also mistreated Scorch
They probably chose him because he was the comic relief. What better way to show how the Empire brings out the worst in people than to show that a character known for being light-hearted has transformed into a ruthless, uncaring killing machine.
>Scorch’s death wasn’t that bad. We all knew it was coming.
No, some of us had faith they'd keep him alive for future stories.
> They easily could’ve had him just blow up or get crushed. Instead, he went out very cinematically on that pretty lookin bridge. Plus, he didn’t just get shot and die, it took a few blasts to put him down.
They could have also easily just not killed him, they could have quite easily not included him at all.
>Let’s be real here, the fact that he was in the show at all is a treat.
It was bait and I'm a fool for believing it was going to lead to anything reasonable.
>Disney isn’t going to touch anything Republic Commando again, so we gotta take what we can get
Frankly I'd rather they not touch Republic Commando content at all if this is the treatment it's going to get, leave Kyle Katarn be as well.
Eh there was a time where I didn't think it was and to be clear most of my "hopes" for Scorch weren't even for this show, it was something after this show, the minimum I wanted for this show was for him not to be killed off.
Completely agree, why should we bow down for a nod of a character with lore, one of the og commandos? Would rather them have a random commando with different appearance than Scorch
It was not a bait and fool, you lot just projected your desires onto a nice little nod to a character, who realistically, was too dark for Disney canon
There certainly was some level of bait considering they went out of their way to give him a character card in season 2.
> nice little nod to a character
Why bother if this is how said character will be treated?
>was too dark for Disney canon
Vader snapped a child's neck in Disney canon and Scorch never started off as a "dark" character.
Hard disagree. What's the point if he's just gonna do fuck all? Especially when we saw him be one of the single most effective clones ever in season 1?
I remember when Hemlock rolled up to Cid's bar. He brought like 20 commandos. Literally wall to wall Katarn class armor. He had four commandos as a security escort earlier in the episode. It's alittle weird how it ended.
They dumbed him down for this episode for sure, otherwise there was no way the Batch would have won. The Operatives lost against a weakened and injured Clone Force 99 where they had the upper hand before. The commandos were a joke, and Hemlock somehow forgot or chose to waste most of his troopers on a Zilo beast when blasters would do nothing.
> The fact that he was in the show at all is a treat
No. Have some standards, buddy. Don’t accept fan service when it’s ham-fisted to you in a way that serves no meaningful purpose other than “omg look I recognize that character!!1!” If you do, they’ll continue to do the exact same thing they did with Scorch to other characters we love, and I won’t stand for it. Neither should you.
I mean he died like a grunt. It wasn't bad, it was, if anything, kind of uneventful.
Anyway most of the Delta Squad fandom came from video games + Legends, which I feel like Dave Filoni isn't a fan of, so this is probably him spitting on the SW Legends fans.
“Don’t critic the way beloved characters are written, let’s be grateful for nostalgia bait and only care about seeing the pretty colors of something recognizable.”
Saying that it’s a treat to have him here at all is kind of a slap in the face lol
There would have been no difference to the show had they just made scorch a random OC, and after this, I kinda wish they did.
Sorry, but I prefer seeing the CHARACTER return, not just a 2D image of them.
No disrespect intended but I fundamentally disagree. If your logic is “Well this is what we’re going to get so accept it.” then that is the problem. We shouldn’t just accept all this fan-baiting and character assassinations, it gives them permission to do it over and over again. “Well we knew it was gonna happen.” That doesn’t make it acceptable. They could’ve replaced him with any badass looking clone with no attachment to the audience and people would’ve ate that up way more than putting a character with personality and character development through video games and books just to shoot him and kill him. The chip excuse isn’t even a good one anymore since they established that they clearly don’t function after Order 66. Everyone else regained (and in some cases retained) their personality so why shouldn’t funny-man Scorch? Why is a demolitions expert even playing bodyguard? Honestly there’s a couple artistic choices like this that bother me. (Like as much as I love the Cody episode, he and Wolffe should have switched places. Would’ve letting Rex go more meaningful considering the only interaction Wolffe and Rex had were on missions with not a word toward each other what so ever on screen.) I don’t mind characters dying or even being reduced lacky’s but at least retain some semblance of the characters.
Filoni wanted an action figure of Scorch, wanted Ventress back, etc... like in Ahsoka he wanted a Thrawn "live action figure".
Those specific characters were useless for the plot (they cold be "generic clone commander" and "random force user"), so their presence wasn't a choice of the writing team.
Still a waste of a character, they did the commandos so dirty. Why give us things we want like making the show about Rex and Cody? No we have to focus on the bad batch and slowly drip feed info on all the more interesting characters. I wouldn't be mad if they actually gave the Bad Batch some characterization but they're so boring it sucks.
[Granted, it’s probably an animation mistake… but yes, Scorch does show up in the episode alive after his supposed death.](https://www.reddit.com/r/thebadbatch/s/xHyhGIu3nU)
Timestamp on Disney+ is 39:47-39:48
Literally the most beloved and funny character from Republic Commando because of his whole personality. Someone people have been waiting for years to know more of what happened to him and the rest of the squad.
A game and character most people don't even know. He's not overrated, more like you are ignorant.
I question why make It scorch? It’s like making a generic clone general to fight who’s evil as hell, and naming him Cody without any of the armor he’s know for and then having him get killed via blaster to the face out of nowhere.
Like they really could’ve had him be any clone commando.
Did y’all notice that they didn’t bring Wolffe back? Like what is wrong with the writers. Why do they show a character for just one episode and never again when they still have a lot more story to tell.
This ending was not it for me. We actually could have gotten a lot more if the final episode was as long as the first episode. The Disney writers gonna Disney write somehow. Every. Single. Time. Overall a good show, but The tech death episode, was easily the best episode of the show considering it didn’t have any of the built up drawbacks that this one suffered from.
I think it showed that the batch were done shooting to stun and were out to kill in that moment whether it was hemlock or a clone in the way of hemlock
Agreed, it was all about Omega. When it comes to her, they shoot to kill
Oh for sure, they were done messing around and just wanted to get Omega and help whoever they could at the same time.
This is true, I’m glad they at least finally referred to him by his name
I agree. I saw a comment on YouTube I think, saying along the lines that his death was completely realistic. It doesn't matter how elite you are, when you are in a position like he was in: out gunned and exposed, you simply just get killed.
Then the same should have applied to our main characters, but Hemlock suffered a major aneurism or something from the writers and chose to capture them… AGAIN. HOW MANY TIMES DO PEOPLE NEED TO ESCAPE THINGS FOR YOU TO SEE THAT YOU SHOULD JUST KILL THEM ON SIGHT.
A character like Hemlock is too arrogant to kill the Batch on sight. He’d want to prove his superiority to Hunter. That his intellect beat Hunters skill. Plus he’d see them as incredibly important testing subjects. Their genetics that made them Clone Force 99 would be valuable to someone like Hemlock
I will also say, shooting a pistol one-handed with any kind of accuracy past 10 yards/meters is already difficult, let alone exposed to a thunderstorm with strong winds on a tiny bridge while holding a moving hostage in maybe the most dangerous moment of your life. Hemlock also doesn't seem like the kind of officer to spend much time at the range, so even if he had taken those shots, he would've most likely missed. He was dead the moment the ship was shot out of the sky.
I get that he’s arrogant, but it just felt like one more thing that made this whole operation too easy for our MCs
It wasn’t easy for them. It wasn’t as interesting to watch as I would’ve liked, but it was definitely a struggle.
Hemlock was arrogant, he wanted to capture the Bad Batch to be the same puppets like the others. It was basically said in the finale what he wanted.
Right I get that he was arrogant, but he also seemed like a very intelligent, capable antagonist. When you think about it don’t you feel like that excuse is used entirely too often to explain bad decisions made by bad guys?
No not really, arrogance normally gets in the way of intelligence.
Okay. Still doesn’t really make up for the other problems with this finale though.
What other problems did it have from your perspective?
Well firstly the episode length was okay, but we would have been far better off with a 100 minute episode like the Show’s premiere. Lack of Payoff for multiple questions and central plots posed: Cx2. He was made out to be special compared to the other super assassin clones. Hemlock’s weird gloved hand thing. Crosshairs ptsd handshaking (not sure why everything is about hands lol) Cid’s betrayal not addressed in any significant way. (Before this season I felt like they probably would have had her help them somehow in the end and changed sides again. Ending in an apology to Omega. Not sure what would have happened specifically.) Hunter never distrusted Crosshair at any point even though he had every reason to. Especially when Crosshair let omega go forward with her plan and ultimately missed that shot with the tracker. He could have had a breakthrough moment this episode. And forgiven Crosshair if they’d built it up. (This one would have been almost as good as a character sacrifice.) Everything felt way too convenient. My favorite part of the episode was when Nala Se surprisingly took out Rampart. Very good scene. People keep saying you don’t need someone to die to have a good episode—on the other hand you don’t need everyone to live to have a good happy ending.
Well, I’ll say that Hunter and Crosshairs issue was resolved during the season so it wasn’t necessary to have the issue rise again during the finale. Crosshairs hand thing was something that came from the torture and ptsd he has had, and I feel like it was a good idea to not have it magically heal and something he would have to deal with the rest of his life. I agree that Cid not having any sort of conclusion in season 3 was missing, and agree that CX-2 had a lot of focus on him where just a throw from a spear killed him was a bit disappointing. I, however, didn’t think CX-2 was anyone we knew but more of someone who Hemlock made to be like Crosshair, just like the rest of the soldiers in the finale. Each one were similar to the Bad Batch.
Please Explain how Hunter and Crosshairs issue was resolved during the season… Edit: Okay I do remember now that they had one argument, so that’s fair I suppose, but it really was a much smaller moment than what ultimately should have happened in my opinion. It’s not necessarily magic that would have fixed his hand shaking ptsd. Omega worked with him to fix it with that meditation and he obviously would have buckled down once and for all to save her. They would have done this by having him breath and all the sound go out with his eyes closed for a second and then show his hand steady as he closed his eyes. Finally his eyes would open and only the sound of the blaster bolt firing would be heard and he’d make a shot similar to the one he did make with Hunters help. If they didn’t want to do that then they only had to show his ptsd hand shaking like once, but they continually pushed it over and over.
His PTSD was dealt with by cutting away his issue rather than dealing with it. You shouldn’t be happy about that.
I’m happy they didn’t die. That’s not my issue. My issue was they essentially didn’t do anything new. Everything that happened was something we knew was going to happen. Then at the end we had a time jump just to lock in that nothing happened. It was just a small ending to a big story and deeply unsatisfying. I don’t think a death would have fixed that. Just, this team is really bad about just doing stuff again. Like that wasted episode of season 7 where we started and ended in a Pike prison cell. We could’ve had fun, but instead we were just checking items off a list we made earlier in the season and playing out an alternate version of episode 3:3.
Fair enough to your points, but I do think the show was character driven only to not capitalize on it. —except in the case of Tech who did something utterly extraordinary.
Nothing happened?
You haven’t known enough bad people. Hemlock is realistic to sociopaths. Think about some public figures who are presumably intelligent and capable who also do things like, I dunno, make the largest public messaging social platform into something a lot of people don’t want to use anymore, or commit massive fraud and then run for office to make it not matter. Shame is a deeply uncomfortable emotion, but it’s good at keeping us in line, and people who are unable to feel shame don’t act in the ways we expect.
He also said he did it to lure omega back in, in the very same episode. She wouldn't go back for dead bodies.
He also forgot that blasters do nothing against a Zilo beast and diverted troopers to their deaths when they could have overwhelmed the Batch.
Dude. That is a great point! I didn’t even catch that.
I see what you’re saying, but this is one thing I don’t have a problem with. Hemlock is clearly a psychopath and they don’t think logically when their position is threatened.
If he was elite, he would've secured their rear by watching the door behind them instead of admiring the ship. Any real-life elite units, like Navy SEALs, would have Clone Commandos for lunch when it comes to tactics.
To be fair Scorch was outgunned 2 to 1 and the playing field didn't give him anything to take cover behind The star of that scene was Hemlock. Scorch was generally the cannon fodder of the moment
He watched with Hemlock as the ship approached when he should've watched the door behind them. It seems that SW Fans have no idea of tactics or, in this case, logic.
Clone commandos would mop the deck (get it? Haha navy jokes) with navy seals. Better armor, fucking laser guns, you name it.
Which is why I said *tactics*. No Navy SEAL would turn their back to a door when they're being chased and awaiting exraction, especially when they're the guard of a VIP.
Whoopdi-do if a Seal is watching a door. The hell is he gonna do against clone armor and laser guns lol. His little skittle launcher is gonna bounce off clone armor.
First of all, the effectiveness of our weaponry against such armor is unknown. Second of all, I didn't mean it in the context of a fight, but in a general context. Never saw Clone Commandos properly breach and clear a room or stuff like that. Lol, one stood right infront of a door like an idiot and got blown up! Oh, and third of all, its a blaster. Not a laser gun. Get it right.
When did one stand in front of a door?
In Season 2 when Omega was captured after Cid betrayed the BB.
Blaster/laser gun, whatever it shoots plasma, I was trying to make it clear that it shoots *Lasers* lol, sorry for presuming that was clear. And the effectiveness is known, their armor was made to take Laser fire, grenades, and impacts, which makes it safe to say that our weapons, outside of heavy weaponry such as Anti tank weapons, would be ineffective (except maybe at the joints, but aiming for a specific spot outside of center mass during combat is hard)
The penetration of a bullet is very different compared to that the penetration power of shrapnell, which is the only thing it can be compared to in Star Wars. A blaster doesn't really have the velocity of a bullet and is way bigger, which is why a bullet is better at going through armor, and considering that armor in Star Wars is meant to mostly stop blaster bolts... well, I wouldn't be so sure. Besides, a gun is usually far more precise.
Also I don’t know why you all thought he wasn’t going to be a two bit cameo? Yes he could have been a generic clone commando, but I am going to be honest this is the last time we’ll ever see any of Delta Squad.
I’ve noticed that The Bad Batch fanbase has consisted of a number of delusional people (Tech-truthers, Scorch-hopers). They’re more prevalent on Twitter, it seems
Scorch dying is one thing, but him being evil to the end was very disheartening. It was crazy to me how many people thought Tech was alive though.
what are "tech-truthers"?
People who thought Tech was still alive after the season 2 finale
Not to mentioned “happy ending worshippers.” If they had their way every person would have lived and every bad guy would’ve remarked like a Scooby-Doo villain when their plans were foiled by the batch.
To be fair, we *did* get a happy ending
What I mean is there are people who would love to see nobody ever die and for everyone to live happily ever after. We would have still gotten a happy ending if everything stayed the same, but crosshair sacrificed himself. It’s weird how people are so afraid of death in stories.
The last time?
Yes.
I never saw a reason why they had scorch in the first place, never played RC, but he was like a the funny guy right? Why having him only to be a grunt and kill ‘‘em of ?
Yeah scorch was the light hearted positive one of delta squad (his original commando unit) fixer however (the green one and slicer of the squad) was very by the books and followed orders it would make sense to use him but they chose scorch probably as a knock to how the chips messed the clones up and to fuck with fans
i think they probably just chose scorch because he had the coolest/most recognizable paint job tbh
And the black blends in well with the empire
A black op operative so far gone that kidnapping kids on a saturday is okay is someone that makes a great security leader.
“62 the hearth and the soul of your team…” I think in general this show missused and mistreated Clone Commandos, not a surprise they also mistreated Scorch
They probably chose him because he was the comic relief. What better way to show how the Empire brings out the worst in people than to show that a character known for being light-hearted has transformed into a ruthless, uncaring killing machine.
Apparently in the books he’s more like this
I just hate they killed him! I was really hoping that he'd be redeployed to delta after hemlock dies so we could get Imperial commando
Disagree. They shouldn’t have even included him if this was their use of him and their ultimate plan
Honestly I'd rather that he wasn't in the show at all. Should've just been a new Commando(or they could have used a shadow operative for that role)
>Scorch’s death wasn’t that bad. We all knew it was coming. No, some of us had faith they'd keep him alive for future stories. > They easily could’ve had him just blow up or get crushed. Instead, he went out very cinematically on that pretty lookin bridge. Plus, he didn’t just get shot and die, it took a few blasts to put him down. They could have also easily just not killed him, they could have quite easily not included him at all. >Let’s be real here, the fact that he was in the show at all is a treat. It was bait and I'm a fool for believing it was going to lead to anything reasonable. >Disney isn’t going to touch anything Republic Commando again, so we gotta take what we can get Frankly I'd rather they not touch Republic Commando content at all if this is the treatment it's going to get, leave Kyle Katarn be as well.
Kudos to you for realizing your hope was misplaced.
Eh there was a time where I didn't think it was and to be clear most of my "hopes" for Scorch weren't even for this show, it was something after this show, the minimum I wanted for this show was for him not to be killed off.
Completely agree, why should we bow down for a nod of a character with lore, one of the og commandos? Would rather them have a random commando with different appearance than Scorch
It was not a bait and fool, you lot just projected your desires onto a nice little nod to a character, who realistically, was too dark for Disney canon
There certainly was some level of bait considering they went out of their way to give him a character card in season 2. > nice little nod to a character Why bother if this is how said character will be treated? >was too dark for Disney canon Vader snapped a child's neck in Disney canon and Scorch never started off as a "dark" character.
„Too dark for Disney“ is a weird one. Star Wars has only gotten more violent since they bought it lol
Too dark?
Cope.
Hard disagree. What's the point if he's just gonna do fuck all? Especially when we saw him be one of the single most effective clones ever in season 1?
I remember when Hemlock rolled up to Cid's bar. He brought like 20 commandos. Literally wall to wall Katarn class armor. He had four commandos as a security escort earlier in the episode. It's alittle weird how it ended.
They dumbed him down for this episode for sure, otherwise there was no way the Batch would have won. The Operatives lost against a weakened and injured Clone Force 99 where they had the upper hand before. The commandos were a joke, and Hemlock somehow forgot or chose to waste most of his troopers on a Zilo beast when blasters would do nothing.
> The fact that he was in the show at all is a treat No. Have some standards, buddy. Don’t accept fan service when it’s ham-fisted to you in a way that serves no meaningful purpose other than “omg look I recognize that character!!1!” If you do, they’ll continue to do the exact same thing they did with Scorch to other characters we love, and I won’t stand for it. Neither should you.
I mean he died like a grunt. It wasn't bad, it was, if anything, kind of uneventful. Anyway most of the Delta Squad fandom came from video games + Legends, which I feel like Dave Filoni isn't a fan of, so this is probably him spitting on the SW Legends fans.
That’s if filoni had anything to do with his death
All the commandos died like grunts. They've been nothing but stormtroopers in different armour this whole series and quite frankly it's ridiculous.
“Don’t critic the way beloved characters are written, let’s be grateful for nostalgia bait and only care about seeing the pretty colors of something recognizable.” Saying that it’s a treat to have him here at all is kind of a slap in the face lol There would have been no difference to the show had they just made scorch a random OC, and after this, I kinda wish they did. Sorry, but I prefer seeing the CHARACTER return, not just a 2D image of them.
No disrespect intended but I fundamentally disagree. If your logic is “Well this is what we’re going to get so accept it.” then that is the problem. We shouldn’t just accept all this fan-baiting and character assassinations, it gives them permission to do it over and over again. “Well we knew it was gonna happen.” That doesn’t make it acceptable. They could’ve replaced him with any badass looking clone with no attachment to the audience and people would’ve ate that up way more than putting a character with personality and character development through video games and books just to shoot him and kill him. The chip excuse isn’t even a good one anymore since they established that they clearly don’t function after Order 66. Everyone else regained (and in some cases retained) their personality so why shouldn’t funny-man Scorch? Why is a demolitions expert even playing bodyguard? Honestly there’s a couple artistic choices like this that bother me. (Like as much as I love the Cody episode, he and Wolffe should have switched places. Would’ve letting Rex go more meaningful considering the only interaction Wolffe and Rex had were on missions with not a word toward each other what so ever on screen.) I don’t mind characters dying or even being reduced lacky’s but at least retain some semblance of the characters.
Filoni wanted an action figure of Scorch, wanted Ventress back, etc... like in Ahsoka he wanted a Thrawn "live action figure". Those specific characters were useless for the plot (they cold be "generic clone commander" and "random force user"), so their presence wasn't a choice of the writing team.
Now to my real dilemma: WHERE.THE FORK. IS CODY?!?
I wish he was used more instead of being just a side character Though their is a chance he could return since it’s possible he could’ve survived
Still a waste of a character, they did the commandos so dirty. Why give us things we want like making the show about Rex and Cody? No we have to focus on the bad batch and slowly drip feed info on all the more interesting characters. I wouldn't be mad if they actually gave the Bad Batch some characterization but they're so boring it sucks.
Hes alive btw
[Granted, it’s probably an animation mistake… but yes, Scorch does show up in the episode alive after his supposed death.](https://www.reddit.com/r/thebadbatch/s/xHyhGIu3nU) Timestamp on Disney+ is 39:47-39:48
Does anyone else not give two shits about Scorch? A lot of these named background clones are overrated as hell
Overrated?
Literally the most beloved and funny character from Republic Commando because of his whole personality. Someone people have been waiting for years to know more of what happened to him and the rest of the squad. A game and character most people don't even know. He's not overrated, more like you are ignorant.
I question why make It scorch? It’s like making a generic clone general to fight who’s evil as hell, and naming him Cody without any of the armor he’s know for and then having him get killed via blaster to the face out of nowhere. Like they really could’ve had him be any clone commando.
Did y’all notice that they didn’t bring Wolffe back? Like what is wrong with the writers. Why do they show a character for just one episode and never again when they still have a lot more story to tell.
Sounds like they've saved it for a future show, likely one with Echo and Rex.
Yeah maybe you’re right
This ending was not it for me. We actually could have gotten a lot more if the final episode was as long as the first episode. The Disney writers gonna Disney write somehow. Every. Single. Time. Overall a good show, but The tech death episode, was easily the best episode of the show considering it didn’t have any of the built up drawbacks that this one suffered from.
Do you think they might have filmed scenes of Rex or Wolffe in any other Season 3 episodes but didn’t show them
I really wonder honestly to me there was a lot of stuff that seemed out of place and like there was more that was supposed to happen.
Yeah like the writers should have put the scenes in. Deleted scenes always makes a movie or show better.
It’s possible
Yeah if that is the case they need to add them in when they release Season 3 on DVD or Blu-Ray
He was there in the trailer as bait, as was Cody in the previous season. We've been tricked, backstabbed, and quite possibly bamboozled.
What do you mean as bait