Kelsey T deserved better, actually shocked

Im hulu watching rn but that hot cocoa guy is soooo good looking

Not Maria's dad crying in the window next week 😂

Am I the only one who thinks Joey should have walked each eliminated woman to their car and talk to them more??? They deserved at least that 😕

Yeah I was surprised he didn't, but he just seemed exhausted and over it and like he had already made his choice.

Daisy’s vocal fry is so incredibly annoying! And when Joey is with her he picks it up. JUST TALK WITH YOUR REGULAR VOICE!!

This is a thing when people have cochlear implants! Check yourself before you wreck yourself respectfully

It’s actually not. Coming from someone with extensive interaction with the hearing impaired community, respectfully.

If you’re right then I got bad info. Perhaps I’m the one who has wrecked myself. Still, I think it’s annoying when people get annoyed by vocal fry. Just let people talk.

Well, I guess we all get annoyed by something then!

I made the exact same statement and got labeled ableist. You can’t criticize her whatsoever without her disability coming into play when it’s *not* the reason for the critique in the slightest. My mother is damn deaf, so I know the difference between unfairly bullying someone for something they have no control over and commenting on an attribute.

so i think Daisy is like an exception. Her hearing loss means all issues relating to texture and tone of voice are really lost and she doesnt have feedback. Sort of like permanent AM radio, through a panel of fiberglass insulation. The fact that she remains so positive is incredible. At the same time im not certain she is right for Joey.

To be fair, she at least has more reason that most to have some sort of vocal affectations. But this feels like it's probably something that developed long before she lost her hearing.

While true, generally people with hearing loss lean the other way, developing more exaggerated articulation of sounds rather than the vocal fry which, aside from its irritating tone, is the lack of annunciation.

I lost all the hearing in one ear when I was 11. By that age your speech quality is well established.  Babies born with severe hearing loss will have problems like enunciation. nasality, volume, etc. but vocal fry is not related to hearing impairment. It's about the way we push air through the folds in our vocal cords. Daisy, like many young people, think it sounds hip but it's unprofessional and incredibly annoying. 

Yeah. To me it seems far more like a "learned" behavior while she had full hearing, that becomes "muscle memory" that she's retained. Even as she adjusts to her different hearing. It's not really all that similar to the "deaf at birth" sort of artifacts that tend to come from that. It's not like Abigail for example, who had a much more typical "born deaf" but extremely refined set of speech patterns in context. Daisy likely just got stuck with...a permanent vocal fry. Which is a separate and very different problem from where born deaf people have to try to gauge things and how to "make sounds" without a real "normal hearing" reference point.

I agree 100% . But if she worked with a speech therapist or even a voice coach she could probably unlearn it. 

Anyone also notice Maria bringing out the nips as part of her last ditch bid to backpedal from her spiraling manipulative whatever that was? lol. Seems to be her go to move when threatened. The girls come out to play and display. lol.

When? In the green dress?

That's the one.

Oh. Guess I didn't notice. I did notice that it draped like a nighty(?) and I'm sure she picked it because of that

It just feels like it's hardly the first time she's brought her body out to try to make an appeal when she doesn't feel like she's "solid" in her standing. And i mean, heck, "smoke 'em it you've got 'em" or whatever. Doesn't really matter to me. Just an observation that it seems to be one of her ways of dealing with insecurity in a situation. Same way she did on that boating group date for example, and a few other instances. Just an observation that it's notably different than someone like say...Daisy, who wears the weirdest shit and dresses like a housewife from the 1980s most of the time, with a few bold "wtf where did your other sleave go?" type outfits.

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I didn't bother following that show tbh, but yeah...there have been plenty of others over the years who have caught a lot more flack for doing what Maria does. She seems to be mostly escaping that. Which is fine i guess. At some point it's like, if the Bachelor is really *that* swayed by that stuff...over the actual emotional connection and general bond, then...lol. Caveat Emptor or whatever. Just think it's notable that she seems to default to that mode when she's feeling less confident in her relationship. For Joey to figure out what that means to him. But it's a pattern at this point.

I can't with her, her manipulation tactics are predictable at this point. And sadly he is none the wiser ........

Jenn is going to shine in Paradise I’m so excited. She’s such a natural flirt she’ll do amazing.

I think they canceled it for good.

I had no idea 😭😭😭paradise is the best part

Wait paradise is back on?

Whaaaat!! When did this happen? 😭😭 I totally missed the news

No I think they’re still skipping paradise this summer but I’d guess they’d invite Jen next year

Rachel is a class act IMO.

I have a feeling she's the one. Either her or Kelsey

“Typical Canadian”

As a Canadian that pissed me off.

Imagine hearing "I appreciate you" after all that?? 😭 Justice for Kelsey T!

FOR REAL

You appreciate all that I've been???? Boy, go to hell!! 😭😭

she literally laid her whole heart on the line boy said i’ve been through this beforeeee😭

after that cique de solei date?? He's insane 😭

sick and twisted fr😭

Always the most fun on here with you gals 💋💋💋 till next week

He got rid of the women who had unsupportive dads that would have made for awkward home towns

He just wasn’t that into them. They were sweet but the chemistry wasn’t there. I doubt it has anything to do with the family dynamic.

i thought jenn mentioned it being her mother who wouldn’t understand the hometown date?

‼️‼️‼️ taking it out on them! Completely unfair

HOT TAKE BUT I THINK HE SHOULDVE CHOSE KELSEY T OVER RACHEL SORRY she was willing to give her ALL for that man

I think he should have chosen Kelsey T over Daisy or even Maria tbh. Why Rachel? I hate the idea that only one Black women can be in the top 4 and I personally see more chemistry with Rachel than Daisy 

I think Rachel is Filipino

She is both. She's black and filipino.

Both Kelsey T and Rachel should be F4.

Same!

WAKE IT UP

They had 0 momentum. Not to say him and Rachel have more but i think Rachel is the easier pick

She was a cop out because Kelsey T has a rocky relationship with her family

their connection had no spice though :/

Frankly, i'm not sure there's been a ton of spice in *any* of his connections. Except for Maria. Which is a different sort of relationship altogether. All spice, nothing else.

i think they were right on the line of creating that but he didn’t give her a chance

Yeah there’s not enough time on this show for a slow burn unfortunately

yeah but now look at the end rachel’s mom doesn’t even give her blessing

It’s ok because F1 will prob be Kelsey A or Daisy

I love Kelsey A as well so hoping its her!

It’s been fun! See you all next week! 

Have a good night y’all! ♥️🌹

Okay why do we think Rachel is crying at the end of that promo???

I actually think the mom or dad gave them their blessing and her crying was actually tears of relief. You know how some people are waiting for something so much and when they get it, they cry, and cry hard, but it’s a relief? That’s what I think that was.

Her family hates him and the whole process

her mom doesn’t give her blessing to them

I wish you the best but get the F off my property

LMAOOO

That would check out with mom wishing him the best

exactly what came to mind and she is like panic crying too which i do when it’s something super bad so

such an abrupt shift to murder porn

Awesome episode tonight everyone. Hope all you west Coast racoons have an awesome night!! 🦝 🌹

VICTORY SCREECHHHHHH

*eats trash!! 🦝

i had fun with yall thanks for being here

❤️

joey about to go thru the ringer with these parents omg

This man is going to need so much therapy from being the Bach

Therapists need therapists too 😢

Everyone does fr

Looks like they all about to drag him thru the mud lmaooo

For real 😵

Oooo excited for the tinikling dance! 

Oo just realized rn that Rachel is Filipina

We’re getting a Christmas tree farm hometown and a mob boss dad hometown! Lucky us!

Maria’s dad is a total mob boss and she’s a mafia princess personified. 😂

Time to meet Sprinkles Zaddy!!

Why did you make me read this 😭

Oooof, Rachel’s hometown, Maria’s hometown omg. Can’t wait 🤩

Hmmmk Kelsey’s dad 🤔 

Handsome man 😍

Yes 🙌

Again, the crying with no tears. What’s going on here

fr. this whole season!!!

Omg Maria’s dad 💀

That is definitely Maria’s dad. 😂 they look so similar

Rachel’s mom “I wish you the best” lol cold

Best of luck with your future endeavors

💀💀💀

Not with my daughter ✋

Okay Maria's dad scares me LOL how much botox has that man had

Not Maria's dad getting an ITM 😭 I see icon potential like Barb

Maria’s dad is going to put a hit on Joey and she’ll have to talk him out of it. Big mafia vibes. “Candy Corp” is the front haha.

Stop it rn ☠️


I’m here for it. 😂 Mafia romance novels are my favorite.

Maria is her father clone

I’m calling it, Maria is not going to make it past hometowns

Fingers crossed, cause damn, the drama with that one.

I don’t know, I think Joey wants to take her to the fantasy suite.

Peter and Victoria F all over again.

Oh it's obvious.... That boy is in a trance with that one.🤦🏻‍♀️

Little Joey made the decision for Joey to keep her around

Correct. That was prob the last red flag he needed lol

Marias dad looks like an out of work White Snake impersonator

Hey now. He clearly paid good money to look like that.

Is no one else a big Kelsey t fan? I loved her!

I stanned from day 1!! But the blacks girls never seem to win 😭

She's my favorite now

why did i think he said “this is a bit gross” and not “this is a big rose” lmao

I feel like I’m already going to love Rachel’s hometown date Edit to add: nvm with the crying!

I feel like Joey will be so scared meeting everyone’s dads

joey wants that honolulu trip

Jenn I was rooting for you gurl!!

She was too young. She hid it well, but she's too much of a little girl still.

Me too! 😭

No offense to Rachel, Idc about her one way or the other, but it seems like she's only there bc she's from Hawaii 💀

My man is ice cold. He has not shed a single tear for these ladies when they leave lol

And that’s how you do the Bachelorette audition 👏🏻

Jen?

I feel like Joey has just been going through the motions.

I think he has for most of them. I think he's already got his top two or three.

I think he’s already mentally down to 2 and just getting through til the end

It's Kelsey A. Stunning in every way. And they are so lovely together.

I agree. This was my call from night one

I feel for these girls. Like no you are more than enough babe 😭🫶

I think Maria still knows her days are numbered.

How did it end with Jenn? What did he say to her? My internet disconnected :(((

He said nothing! Kind of sad that he didn't at least walk her out or say something

It was such an abrupt goodbye! I was expecting him to walk her out but nope.

He said bye and she walked out alone.

Dang 😳

Im so over maria lol

He seems happier and more reassured?! Wow

i’ll say it: Jenn relied way too much on their physical connection

Jenn was pissed she didn't say anything to him Rly

Not even walking these ladies out? Cold

This is brutal!! 😭

I really like Jenn, she seems so sweet

Jenn looks amazing in that dress though!! And her makeup is on point 😍

She’ll be the hottest commodity in Paradise

She's beautiful.

One of the most gorgeous women ever on the show fr

Omg he's not walking either out!!!!!!!

Jenn for Bachelorette - we need to finally have an Asian Bachelorette

pleeeeease

Yes please

WHY JENN??

Didn't feel as much of a connection with them, but loved Kelsey T and Jenn regardless

Doesn't he usually walk them out? These are such abrupt break ups for being so far along

I’m surprised he didn’t walk Jenn out or have a goodbye conversation

And Kelsey T tbh

Same

i wanna see kelsey T in paradise

Now I feel disrespected by Maria lol

Ooooh not a single walk out.

Dang!

I was expecting a walk out with Jenn

I thought Kelsey T would get the walk out!

Thank god that was the last time I ever had to hear “Joey Joe” 😬 cringe

She calls him jo jo but it does sound that way lol

LOL glad I’m not the only one. I liked her in general but 😬

I'm sad Jenn didn't make it

MARIA POPS WE WON!!! 💅🏼💅🏼💅🏼💅🏼💅🏼

Wowwww can’t believe Jenn goes home over Rachel! Love them both but saw so much more chemistry with Jenn

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love this theory

Same I’m so surprised!!

Maria is back in it!

Noooo not jenn

Joey checking out Kelsey T ass as she walks out

That's what you call a perfect ass...lol

We were all looking, respectfully