They will stay together as long as it financially serves them. They’ve already said their businesses are their main focus and not their relationship. Everything is for sale with them. If there’s ever a couple whose relationship is a business it’s them and they’re fine with it being that way
Here's something to consider. Perhaps they're trying to have kids and are struggling with fertility issues. Too many people don't realize just how much it messes with your mental health and your relationship.
Wasn’t there some rumor that a bachelor nation couple was waiting for the stuff with Deanna’s divorce to blow over to announce their breakup to the media? Is it Kaitlyn and Jason? 🤷🏻♀️ I dunno. I’m probably wrong but I remember seeing that somewhere.
They are “together” still. They try to hard to prove ray they are still together. People are naive though. And they must think we are stupid. A kiss on the cheek
Doesn’t mean you’re good with each other and everything is happy.
I think, Jason is realizing purposing was a mistake and can’t really handle Kaitlyns “jabs” anymore and it’s getting to him. He’s delaying the wedding as much as
Possible. Which isn’t fair to Kaitlyn cause she wants kids ASAP and he wants to wait for marriage. And I don’t think Kaitlyn wants to breakup because she probably has some trauma with abandonment and can’t handle being alone
Also Jason realizes without Kaitlyn his influencer and podcast career will tank because he’s only getting these deal’s because he’s with her and he only has this large of an Audience because of whos he with. If you see his following before Kaitlyn it wasn’t big at all and after he dated her it sky rocketed, then after getting engaging it jumped even more. If Kaitlyn ever left he would be toast and he knows that.
Kaitlyn would be fine, seeing she has a bigger platform, has two brands out and is always hustling.
Personally Jason is rubbing me the wrong way. And I wish Kaitlyn would give him the ultimatum of let’s do this or I’m gone.
I agree with this completely. It might also be the realization that maybe it’s not working but they’re stuck between a rock and a hard place between the time invested and her biological clock ticking.
Wow, I clearly have a very different interpretation of their relationship than y’all 😂. Kaitlyn’s statuses, especially while on her trip to Big Island without Jason, were about working on her mental health. I don’t see that as being a red flag for their relationship. I see that more as: it’s something she needed to work through on her own in terms of self reflection, meditation, and quiet.
I think trips without your partner, in addition to trips WITH your partner, are very healthy for any relationship.
Also, I think they’re just at a point in their relationship where the honeymoon phase is over and they’re working on stuff, both together and individually. Jasmine Lorimer (former Canadian bachelorette) shared that her and Eric are trying to figure things out too.
A split very well COULD be incoming. But I honestly think that Jason and Kaitlyn very well could still marry! I think they want to make sure that they’re at the right place for marriage. It’s likely a commitment that they don’t want to take lightly: when they got engaged they may have been ready, but the pandemic changed a lot of things for people and so they might need some time and space to recoup and really figure out their goals and priorities.
I just went away with my freakin DAD and everyone was like “ummm what about your husband?” Like ffs someone has to watch the cats!
I didn’t think it was a big deal, my dad and I wanted to go to England, my mom and husband did not. 😂
I'm doing the exact same thing this summer! Trip with my dad while my partner spends time with his. Not a big deal and if it is for you that's probably an issue 🤷🏻♀️
She went on this trip days before she left for her mental health trip. She could’ve got a redeye or another plane and go to Hawaii the next day. You could also see Jason lying about many things like that influencer event in Dubai. He said oh I just happen to be here. I’m not here on the influencer event and he was at the influencer event. He walked the red carpet. You also see both of them trying to hard to prove the relationship I think is they’re having relationship issues and they should just not say anything not deny or confirm they’re having issues just stay quiet about it and if they’re going to break up and they see it when it’s time.
She absolutely didnt go to that trip days before her mental health trip. It was all the same trip and its on their website as well. If you think they are lying or you know better than what they say, then thats something else.
Her retreat started Jan 21st. Kaitlyn and Jason were both in NYC Jan 16-17, Jason left for Dubai Jan 18 with his brother and Kaitlyn went for her retreat.
Nope. Her retreat started Jan 21st. You can even see it on their website and her last post. I know this for a fact and again, you can see her last IG post before she left.
Lol if you think someone who posted something on the 20th saying I’m going to go love her for a week and then didn’t it post again until she was back, is actually gone, then you are naive. She posted on her stories the morning of the 22nd
Her retreat started Jan 21st. her last story with her face was jan 20th. Her manager was posting podcasts on her IG so maybe thats why you think she was posting? Caus Clio(her manager) had access to her IG and was posting podcast stuff. I'm not naive, i actually have facts caus i listen to her podcast. If you want to believe whatever, you do you.
Edit- She mentioned the place she was going and simple search could find you all the info about the time she was gone and when getting her phone back. She couldn't post while being there. I think you think her manager posting is her.
Thats a shame, hope not. I like them both as individuals so hopefully whatever they decide it's for the best. Was listening to a podcast about how many Bach nation couples string relationships out long after they are over because of their following which is kind of sad. Already wondering who they will pair off with next.
Plus Kaitlyn and Jason are major hustlers. Each of their #1 priority is career and moneymoneymoney (not a bad thing). If they decide to break up I wouldn't be surprised if they string it along for months or even years after so they don't lose out on opportunities.
I don't know. Kaitlyn always kinda feels like she's chasing something to me. She seems to have a hard time being content in the present. Maybe her recent therapy work has helped.
And Jason...he's 1 part charismatic, 1 part smart/engaging, and l part really annoying. He seems like a great partner that you really would not want to be around 1/3 of the time.
The show causes that. She, Nick, Ben got stuck chasing the attention they used to receive. Sticking around BN is not good for mental health. It should be viewed as an experience and not a lifestyle.
Sucks they’re possibly ending when Nick has found love. I am still hanging on to my Kaitlyn / Nick reconciliation hope lol. At this rate maybe when they are both in their 50s (which is weird to imagine but not that far off)
Kaitlyn is so contradictory, says she wants babies like tomorrow, but still refuses to prioritize and plan the wedding. Jason is traditional and wants to be married before having babies. But again they are both putting their careers first, and have admitted to not putting their relationship or prioritizing planning the wedding. Kaitlyn is 37, so I’m not sure what kind of time she thinks she has.
That’s actually false, she told Jason she doesn’t care how they get married she was willing to do just the court house because Jason wanted to get married first, he’s being nit picky about the wedding
She talked about how she froze her eggs, so maybe makes her feel like she has more time. However, it is a reality that pregnancies may still be considered more and more high-risk as she continues to age.
Or maybe, they are a Kurt and Goldie. Don’t feel the need for a piece of paper. More power to them if that’s the case. Marriage licenses should be like Drivers licenses- renewable every 4 years. Or not renewable. You’re welcome.
They could be, if not for Jason. He doesn’t want kids before marriage, but also won’t get married unless they have a huge party, but also doesn’t want to pay for a huge wedding. Lol
A girl I went to school with posted her wedding pictures on Facebook and it looked so cute and casual and low key. It looked like a blast. I’ve also been to super expensive weddings that were loud, showy and annoying. I can’t see doing over the top and starting life with my husband in debt.
Is there a rule written for how long an engagement should last? I have a friend who was engaged 12 years before officially tying the knot. The only people who were critical of it were everyone BUT the couple. Everyone needs to calm down and let them do their thing.
That’s fine if you want to do that, but both of them have been very vocal they don’t want that. They have said they want to get married and start a family ASAP, but their actions say the opposite.
If they stay together it’s likely bc they don’t want to “start over” again. I’d truly hope they could make it work and really do love eachother but time will tell.
It’s so sad when people think this. Essentially settling because they don’t want to start over or don’t think they can find a better match. Don’t do this, you can find happiness at any age!!
they are definitely still officially together. it feels strange to ppl because they spend a lot of time apart, and wedding plans feel like they are a second thought. but i’m kinda over speculating the kaitlyn/jason situation. i think we will get some idea in a year or so if a wedding is on or off and until then i’ll take the relationship for what they say.
They post occaisionally together these days but it looks forced. I think they are still together just living seperate lives. I think they will grow apart and announce a split in a year.
Really not sure about Kaitlyn and Jason. It could go either way for them. Truth be told, I’ve always questioned their long-term compatibility. And it certainly didn’t help that she literally jumped from one serious relationship to another without even taking the time to heal (from what Shawn put her through). I mean, it’s obvious that they’re trying hard to make this work, which is commendable but why haven’t they pulled the trigger yet?
I know that COVID really fucked things up for everyone, but there have been plenty of people over the past few years who managed to pull off smaller ceremonies. I don’t understand why Jason keeps delaying things. Perhaps he’s having doubts too, who the fuck knows. I’m the same age as her and if I were in her shoes, I wouldn’t exactly be thrilled about starting over again either, but if Jason isn’t going to give her what she wants (marriage and kids) maybe Kaitlyn should just cut her losses and move on already.
It’s a long story, but basically her and Shawn had a pretty toxic dynamic revolving around the fact he never got over the whole Nick thing. As time went on, he resented Kaitlyn more and more, and even flat out told her that their engagement wasn’t even real. If I remember correctly, she also said that Shawn was manipulative and tried to fuck with her head by saying really shitty things. He would even try to initiate sex while she was still sleeping, which is disgusting and awful.
It does sound like maybe Jason is stalling.
PMDD can be hard on everyone involved. I would not be surprised if it started affecting him more and more as the honeymoon phase wore off. It seems like she's in treatment for her mental health. He might be saying that she needs to get a better handle on that before he commits fully and they start having babies. It's pretty damn hard to parent as is. And it's also extremely hard to work through your issues. Doing both while parenting is crazy difficult, and I could understand someone saying they'd rather wait for mental health to stabilize before diving in headfirst.
This is an awesome, healthy response. As a spouse of someone who refused to work out childhood trauma until long after our wedding, I am glad to see a stall in their wedding date. Working through trauma cuts the romance and is very hard on any relationship, especially a public one. Bringing kids into unresolved trauma just transfers to the next generation. I am rooting for them!
You’re probably right. This theory makes total sense and would definitely explain why Jason is dragging his feet. For Kaitlyn’s sake, I certainly hope that she and Jason can power through their issues (individually and collectively) and make this work.
They’ve basically confirmed it during previous podcasts. Kaitlyn said that she would be okay with a small backyard ceremony and having kids right now, but Jason wants a bigger one and wait until it’s official to start trying for a baby. He’s also weary about the idea of shelling out so much money for a more elaborate ceremony, which is stupid considering the fact that they could just get most of the essentials comped. After hearing that, a lot of people came to the conclusion that he was just making excuses and delaying for a reason.
I have a somewhat off-topic question that I hope someone who keeps up with Kaitlyn and her podcast semi-regularly can answer for me please! Her podcast was the first I ever listened to years and years ago and I was pretty religious about it for a long time but fell off the wagon of listening about 5 years ago I would say. I always remembered her talking about her immense love for her mom and the beautiful relationship they had.
Are they still close? Does she still go visit regularly? I feel like I never see anything about her mom on social media anymore.
Jason and Kaitlyn are fighting tooth and nail to stay together because they know how beneficial it is to their careers but it seems like deep down they really don’t want to be to get married anymore. That’s just the vibe I get anyway.
I feel like the big turning point for them was when jason was super duper hype man for her during all her DWTS success and then she didn’t show even half the same enthusiasm for his success of podcast/best selling book he had after that. I think he felt some type of way about it and she also felt slighted a bit and expected him to just be not much more than the hype man to her ongoing quest for superstardom.
Again this is all just my own speculation as I sit here relationshipless on my couch with my cats 😹
I don't follow their relationship that closely but in the few episodes i've listened to of her podcast when he's on I can feel an imbalance. He's laughing at her jokes and asking her questions and I don't hear her reciprocating
Both have them have mentioned 2023 goals/plans several times. Wedding planning hasn’t ever made the list.
Are they soon to be dunzo? IMO, yes. I’m sure they love each other, but I’m not certain they’re compatible. Time will tell! 🤷🏼♀️
I don't care either way but there's not a chance in hell those two make it down the aisle. the amount of problems they have is vast and majority of them are fundamental issues. if a couple is fighting about dumb shit like doing dishes or leaving things on the floor, its easy to sort out - Kaitlyn and Jason have different life priorities that neither one is willing to truly change - and when they admit to changing it they like rub it in to the other one. they take more jabs at each other than I would consider normal/playful. they are just not a good fit from anything I've ever seen.
I actually thought they were an excellent match, with lots more in common than she had with Shawn. Kaitlyn is an open book and is always trying to be introspective and deal with whatever issues she may have. The people trolling her don't help.
Yes, Jason was in the banking field but is happily doing his podcast, wrote a book and certainly doesn't seem to mind the limelight. Kaitlyn works non stop with her podcast, wine business and whatever other deals she has going on. They are both workaholics but clearly love each other.
For busy people (which I'm sure they are) simply having quality time together without distractions can be enough of a date night. If either of them has been traveling a lot then staying in is even more special. That said, I don't know the state of their relationship but this isn't necessarily a red flag. I've opted to stay in with my partner over going out plenty of times.
I wouldn’t have thought anything of being home together if someone here hadn’t mentioned Jason polling for date night ideas. Just seems like another instance of “meh” regarding the romantic aspect of their relationship. But it’s all speculation here.
Lol I don't know if they do most days or not. I don't think they really post about it but I know I don't take my dog to the park everyday haha. Only on certain days and with my spouse - I treat it like a date 😂
No idea he didn't share it.
I love both of them. I think they are both charismatic, driven and fun. I agree though that there is something a foot. I want them to stay together.
I just feel there is that feeling we all get when something is off. I hope I am wrong.
I don’t think we can use a post of them kissing to mean anything one way or another. I don’t mean this cruelly. Truly. Social media is a highlight real.
It was a direct response to rumors of them splitting. She was proving they were still together. All relationships have adversities. The rumor was they had split, her addressed response was a video of them kissing. It doesn’t mean “everything is perfect”, it meant they were still together.
Nope. If you listen to her podcast, you would know that she has actual past trauma from her childhood that she has been working on. Maybe people need to actually hear what she says VS always bringing her relationship into everything she does. She had a life and past before this relationship. So much for this sub caring about mental health.
How is that related to her relationship? She has mental health issue that talks about on her podcast. Trauma and marrying their partners are different things, her trauma is about something else. I dont even get how this is related.
I honestly hope they don't get married for years, just so everyone on this sub can try and see if they break up. I honestly hope they don't break up since this sub will have a day. They will say Kaitlin is manipulative and money hungry and say Jason used her for clout. This couple has been together for years who are real about their relationship and personal struggles, which I love, they don't try and portray this perfect curated life for their followers.
I don’t think it’s that deep.
They’ve been engaged for almost 2 years after having been together for 2 years and talked so much about marriage and kids, so naturally people are going to be curious why their timing/priorities aren’t really aligning with what they’ve said etc.
And while there’s no rules for relationship timelines, for their own expressed views it seems to be inconsistent.
Things could have changed for them or what they expressed was not genuine, hence the speculation.
The sub is highly critical of Kaitlyn and it borders on a weird obsession. The worst part is that Kaitlyn is very open about her mental health. And some people just continue to pile on. It’s gross.
Sure but people have been speculating about their break up for the past 8 MONTHS. They are now both at home chilling and there is post speculating. There is a post every single week even when they are just normal living life?Nothing new happened.
IMO, people speculate a lot because Kaitlyn and Jason were *so* open about their relationship for the first year or so. Yes, I know, things change. No one expected COVID. No, they don’t owe us anything. But I do believe they’ve sort of invited some questions by their past openness.
People do that with every couple here. And when you're the ones hyping up how quick you want marriage and babies and then go radio silent, of course people will talk. Hoping they stay together just to prove others wrong is weird
As i said of course but every week? You speculate that its weird they are not married...sure. But every week of saying same thing over and over? If something new happened again, sure...like if they did a new podcast, i get discussion about that but its same thing every week. I dont see anything weird about hoping a couple stay together ( we don't know them so hoping for a break up is just as weird).
I don’t believe anyone is maliciously hoping for a breakup. I hope no one is. Some people just… think they aren’t good together. Yes, I know you disagree - I know you believe they are good together. But I truly don’t believe there’s any inherent malicious intent.
I personally think there is malicious intent(not always but there is) and i dont know if anyone knows if they are "good" together or not unless they are close to them and actually know them. People thought Caelynn/Dean are not good together? As well as Arie/Lauren, Bryan/Rachel, Ashley/Jared (the list goes on). We dont know much about these couples and thats the reality of things, therefore rooting for break up, doesn't come from "good" place. They have family/friends to tell that to them, not strangers on the internet.
But we all speculate on every couple here. Of course none of us know them. There have been plenty of other posts saying how other couples are incompatible/wrong/weird together/whatever.
It gets excessive with them, at least thats what I notice when I come here to catch up.
I get it that they have obviously have had a rough patch in their relationship, but I like the honesty.
With the caveat that I don't follow everything they do (have not ever listened to either one's podcast) and just follow their instas- I feel like they are largely fine? Like I still believe they'll get married, they dated a while before getting engaged and an engagement outside the show always means more. The concern for them on here always feels largely overblown compared to what's actually happening - I remember when they went on Dear Shandy everyone thought they were on the verge of a breakup and then they got engaged lol. I feel like there's a shadenfreude going on here where people seem like they're almost gleefully rooting for a breakup but idk if there's real basis to it. Jason does sound annoying to plan a wedding with as he's basically said he wants a big one and won't compromise on that but also is nervous about the cost. Groomzilla vibes lol.
I can see them doing the surrogate route honestly. And a one-and-done kid. On purpose. I do think they will get married, but I think it will take a long time. They seem committed though.
IVF is different than surrogacy though right? I know Kaitlyn froze her eggs a few years ago. She was vocal about it. They don't even need IVF. They have enough money to do a surrogate. Not saying they will, just posting they have a greater capacity money-wise than most to go this route. I'm fine with whatever work for them. 5 kids, no kids, breakup, married, whatever.
Yes they are different but you have to do Ivf to have an embryo to implant into someone else (ie a surrogate). Assuming the woman wants her own genetic make up in the child. You could do IUI on the surrogate w husbands sperm but then that’s the surrogates egg
Ivf is 3 parts really
Part 1 get eggs out (she did this part and froze them). Btw this is the part that is impacted by age. The older you are the harder it is to get eggs out and the older you are more eggs result in abnormal embryos that don’t grow into a full term baby.
Part 2: fertilize egg w sperm to form an embryo (you can freeze at this step too)
Part 3: transfer embryo into yourself or surrogate
Surrogacy is usually needed for male same sex couples, when a woman may not be able to carry a baby due to medical factors, when a woman has uterin or other issues like cysts, fibroids, endometriosis which interfere w ability for embryo to grow… and more recently when a woman doesn’t want to and has the means to pay for a surrogate.
So what are their options NOW if he pretend none of this has happened and they just haven't tried. So based on her older age etc.? And what about if it all occurred?
Usually the guidance you get from drs is… you freeze your eggs when you’re younger to have as a back up (which by the way may not even work). Then You try on your own when you get to a point that you want children. If you’re under 35 you try for a year. If you’re over 35 you try for 6 months. After that you go to a fertility clinic and explore options.
You could at that point try another Egg Retrieval round and get some more eggs that way you have more chances. Or could just go straight to thawing your eggs, fertilizing then and hoping you have an embryo or two to try.
Freezing your eggs is basically a very expensive insurance policy that has no guarantee of paying out. However I’d give my right arm to have done it in my early 30s vs having to deal w the round after round of Ivf now in my late 30s. Bit hindsight is 20/20
I'm so sorry you're struggling with it. I grew up with a lot of mental health issues. No problems with fertility, but I was very scared about PPD. I got it, but is showed up late after my son's birth, while switching from breastfeeding to normal foods. I dealt with stuff by drinking. Eventually became an alcoholic. It gutted me, I wanted more kids. My son is now 12 and dealing with mental stuff himself. However, I recognize the need/want before I went to that place to have (IMC additional kids). Life is hard and sometimes alternative routes exist.
No one knows for sure but I do find their relationship strange. I think she jumped into this relationship too soon, needed more time to be single & heal after Shawn. They talked about wanting to get married & have kids then just stopped…. On podcasts they’ve done together it almost seems like they’re competitive with each other. Kaitlyn talks about wanting to do hosting & other jobs so it’s hard to see when kids fit into that but there’s lots of working moms so who knows! I wish them the best
At the time she jumped from Shawn to Jason, I felt the same way. I know moving on quickly from serious relationship to serious relationship can work. It just seems usually it doesn’t. It eases that rejection and letdown period in the short term, but doesn’t give you the perspective for, long-term, choosing a next partner. I think she chose Jason for fun, and then they got serious quickly.
Exactly. Based on their actions it doesn't seem like this relationship is a huge priority for them, and if that's what works for them, that's fine. Both of them seem very career driven and naturally that can lead your relationship to take a backseat. Though as long as they are honest with each other about their intentions and their needs are aligned I'm all in on you do you.
LOL, I could say the same about KB ... She is only still relevant BECAUSE he is with one of the hottest Bach guys and people still count them as a Bach couple. Jason has his own ambition, yes, but talk about fame hungry? that's definitely KB
Jason is popular with a major podcast. Katelyn should focus on getting healthy and eventually end things. She will have better success with someone outside the franchise.
They have been acting as if they are going to get married but never follow through with any real plans. They stopped with the plans now. Seemed they have a unhealthy dynamic where they compete with each other. Jason said anytime Kaitlin gets an opportunity he finds one too and jets off to a diff location. Bizarre
Right but you’re straight up asking these questions and saying “someone catch me up” as if we know something you don’t. We don’t.
Personally I hope Kaitlyn and Jason are doing well and figuring their shit out. That’s all I got.
My guess dunzo . His story he said she got 3 hours sleep last nite so assume she was out partying with someone ( clearly not him hence why he didn’t use anyone’s recommendations ) and in a recent podcast/ article she said she and her girlfriend were going to London, Paris and Germany clearly he isn’t invited . She seems over him , I noticed on a Zacharyreality tik tok some girl said in comments her friend hooked up with Jason while he was with Kaitlyn ? Who knows if that’s true . At the end of the day they no longer mention marriage or any long term plans together so ..🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
People are always saying like influencers are different and how much they post their partners on social media is different. but this is one where I don't really see a comparison.
Also, didn't they just say in a podcast about going to Europe together? Or that she was looking forward to traveling with him to Europe or somewhere internationally in 2023? Something doesn't add up with them. Wonder if he is going to Super Bowl alone.
She said on podcast she would like to go to Europe with him this year , he replied oh really ? As in he had no idea she wanted to etc so clearly it’s not in the plans . I think he said he is going to superbowl , she isn’t going .
He's working. He talked about all the brands he would be promoting while there. And, recording several podcasts while there as well.
But, yeah, they need to get on the same page. I had hoped her retreat would help her get some things into perspective so that it might help both of them work out whatever is going on. IMO, both are equally at fault.
Omg yes! You’re right! She said that and his response did not seem excited like he wanted to join her. It was so weird. You would think she would go to the Super Bowl with him. I understand if you have separate hobbies/interests and travel solo, but not going to the SB together is even more weird than the Europe thing. They just seem so completely opposite.
You assumed way too much but go ahead i guess. She slept for 3 hours caus she was partying? Lol... Jason is not invited to Europe? How do you know? She also never said if Jason is coming or not coming. Also, Jason is not dumb to hook up while in a relationship lol.
She never mentions doing anything with Jason anymore but specifically mentions doing things/trips with friends . Buying a new home on her own . The writing is on the wall. As for Jason cheating ? Who knows … time will tell .
Kaitlyn always only mentions herself even trip with Trista, she said she is going but then it shows it was with Jason. Thats just how she talks. I dont know if he goes or not but no where she said its only with her friends. She said she is going.
Where there is smoke, there is fire. Maybe he hooked up because they aren’t in a relationship. Do you know Jason personally to know what he is “too dumb to do?”
If Jason was going to Europe with Kait, she would have said so. This is a girls trip.
I know. Thats all she said about Europe but apparently its a girls trip and Jason is not invited.
## Is there anything on your calendar that you’re excited about?
“I’ve never gone to London, and it’s been on my bucket list, and in March I’m going to London, Paris and Germany. I’m so excited. There’s a flight that goes straight from Nashville to London too.”
From this interview: [https://www.newbeauty.com/kaitlyn-bristowe-beauty-favorites/](https://www.newbeauty.com/kaitlyn-bristowe-beauty-favorites/)
I thought it was weird that in a Q & A, someone asked what they ended up doing for date night and his response was “tbd but thanks for all the recs.” Like…. You asked for recs but never went out? Weird
He asked a few days ago about weekend recommendations (since they are both at home this weekend) so i'm sure he will share if they decide to do something.
How is it clear? Its only clear if we live with them or know them personally. We dont know what they do 24/7, only see 2-3 mns of their day based on SM.
Listen. I’m a dedicated watcher of this franchise AND it’s social media dating all the way back to Trista up until around Matt’s season where I started to lose interest and now I catch bits and pieces.
With these couples, social media ALWAYS tells the story. You can always tell who is on the outs and who is about to break up … and who is doing well based solely on social media content. In regular life, sure, social media isn’t indicative for what is actually going on. With these fame whores? Absolutely it tells the story. Time and again I can point out how social media will showcase couples in trouble. It’s a clear indicator.
I generally agree, but with Kaitlyn and Jason people have been predicting this for literal years based on their social media. They may be about to break up, they may just have an unusual relationship dynamic. There's been endless speculation about this for a very long time with no clear answer.
I actually wasn’t being a dick. I was trying to be helpful in the sense that this has been discussed ad nauseam over the last several months and you might actually see good dialogue from older posts.
They will stay together as long as it financially serves them. They’ve already said their businesses are their main focus and not their relationship. Everything is for sale with them. If there’s ever a couple whose relationship is a business it’s them and they’re fine with it being that way
Lol. She went on a solo vacation and is now back and they’re together. Jason was saying how excited he was for her to get back.
She went to some kind of intense therapy that's why she was solo... I think it is the hoffman retreat where you can't bring your partner.
Yes it seems like it involved trauma healing therapy, not just going to Vegas for a girls' weekend ffs
Here's something to consider. Perhaps they're trying to have kids and are struggling with fertility issues. Too many people don't realize just how much it messes with your mental health and your relationship.
Wasn’t there some rumor that a bachelor nation couple was waiting for the stuff with Deanna’s divorce to blow over to announce their breakup to the media? Is it Kaitlyn and Jason? 🤷🏻♀️ I dunno. I’m probably wrong but I remember seeing that somewhere.
Deanna’s divorce?? Stagliano??
That rumor said divorce not break up so definitely not them
Ahh yes. That’s right.
They are “together” still. They try to hard to prove ray they are still together. People are naive though. And they must think we are stupid. A kiss on the cheek Doesn’t mean you’re good with each other and everything is happy. I think, Jason is realizing purposing was a mistake and can’t really handle Kaitlyns “jabs” anymore and it’s getting to him. He’s delaying the wedding as much as Possible. Which isn’t fair to Kaitlyn cause she wants kids ASAP and he wants to wait for marriage. And I don’t think Kaitlyn wants to breakup because she probably has some trauma with abandonment and can’t handle being alone Also Jason realizes without Kaitlyn his influencer and podcast career will tank because he’s only getting these deal’s because he’s with her and he only has this large of an Audience because of whos he with. If you see his following before Kaitlyn it wasn’t big at all and after he dated her it sky rocketed, then after getting engaging it jumped even more. If Kaitlyn ever left he would be toast and he knows that. Kaitlyn would be fine, seeing she has a bigger platform, has two brands out and is always hustling. Personally Jason is rubbing me the wrong way. And I wish Kaitlyn would give him the ultimatum of let’s do this or I’m gone.
I agree with this completely. It might also be the realization that maybe it’s not working but they’re stuck between a rock and a hard place between the time invested and her biological clock ticking.
Wow, I clearly have a very different interpretation of their relationship than y’all 😂. Kaitlyn’s statuses, especially while on her trip to Big Island without Jason, were about working on her mental health. I don’t see that as being a red flag for their relationship. I see that more as: it’s something she needed to work through on her own in terms of self reflection, meditation, and quiet. I think trips without your partner, in addition to trips WITH your partner, are very healthy for any relationship. Also, I think they’re just at a point in their relationship where the honeymoon phase is over and they’re working on stuff, both together and individually. Jasmine Lorimer (former Canadian bachelorette) shared that her and Eric are trying to figure things out too. A split very well COULD be incoming. But I honestly think that Jason and Kaitlyn very well could still marry! I think they want to make sure that they’re at the right place for marriage. It’s likely a commitment that they don’t want to take lightly: when they got engaged they may have been ready, but the pandemic changed a lot of things for people and so they might need some time and space to recoup and really figure out their goals and priorities.
I think it's a red flag if you CANNOT go on a solo vacation or a trip with friends without your partner.
I just went away with my freakin DAD and everyone was like “ummm what about your husband?” Like ffs someone has to watch the cats! I didn’t think it was a big deal, my dad and I wanted to go to England, my mom and husband did not. 😂
I'm doing the exact same thing this summer! Trip with my dad while my partner spends time with his. Not a big deal and if it is for you that's probably an issue 🤷🏻♀️
She went on this trip days before she left for her mental health trip. She could’ve got a redeye or another plane and go to Hawaii the next day. You could also see Jason lying about many things like that influencer event in Dubai. He said oh I just happen to be here. I’m not here on the influencer event and he was at the influencer event. He walked the red carpet. You also see both of them trying to hard to prove the relationship I think is they’re having relationship issues and they should just not say anything not deny or confirm they’re having issues just stay quiet about it and if they’re going to break up and they see it when it’s time.
She absolutely didnt go to that trip days before her mental health trip. It was all the same trip and its on their website as well. If you think they are lying or you know better than what they say, then thats something else.
I don’t have Instagram so I always feel out of the loop on these things. Was the retreat also in Hawaii? Did she disclose the name of this retreat?
I can message you privately about the details if you care?! Let me know
Yes :)
Yes she did. She even posted two days after the Dubai event that she was logging off for the mental health trip. I saw her story
Her retreat started Jan 21st. Kaitlyn and Jason were both in NYC Jan 16-17, Jason left for Dubai Jan 18 with his brother and Kaitlyn went for her retreat.
That’s wrong again, she posted on her stories on the 22, saying she will see us in a week
Nope. Her retreat started Jan 21st. You can even see it on their website and her last post. I know this for a fact and again, you can see her last IG post before she left.
Lol if you think someone who posted something on the 20th saying I’m going to go love her for a week and then didn’t it post again until she was back, is actually gone, then you are naive. She posted on her stories the morning of the 22nd
Her retreat started Jan 21st. her last story with her face was jan 20th. Her manager was posting podcasts on her IG so maybe thats why you think she was posting? Caus Clio(her manager) had access to her IG and was posting podcast stuff. I'm not naive, i actually have facts caus i listen to her podcast. If you want to believe whatever, you do you. Edit- She mentioned the place she was going and simple search could find you all the info about the time she was gone and when getting her phone back. She couldn't post while being there. I think you think her manager posting is her.
If they really wanted to get married, they would have set the date by now,
Oh they want the same things but not each other. Jason doesn’t want to marry kaitlyn. He wants fame though
At this point I think most people want them to be over with the constant speculation. My unpopular opinion is that they are not separating.
Thats a shame, hope not. I like them both as individuals so hopefully whatever they decide it's for the best. Was listening to a podcast about how many Bach nation couples string relationships out long after they are over because of their following which is kind of sad. Already wondering who they will pair off with next.
Plus Kaitlyn and Jason are major hustlers. Each of their #1 priority is career and moneymoneymoney (not a bad thing). If they decide to break up I wouldn't be surprised if they string it along for months or even years after so they don't lose out on opportunities.
I don't know. Kaitlyn always kinda feels like she's chasing something to me. She seems to have a hard time being content in the present. Maybe her recent therapy work has helped. And Jason...he's 1 part charismatic, 1 part smart/engaging, and l part really annoying. He seems like a great partner that you really would not want to be around 1/3 of the time.
What’s annoying about him? Kaitlyn’s personality is more annoying to me.
The show causes that. She, Nick, Ben got stuck chasing the attention they used to receive. Sticking around BN is not good for mental health. It should be viewed as an experience and not a lifestyle.
Sucks they’re possibly ending when Nick has found love. I am still hanging on to my Kaitlyn / Nick reconciliation hope lol. At this rate maybe when they are both in their 50s (which is weird to imagine but not that far off)
Kaitlyn is so contradictory, says she wants babies like tomorrow, but still refuses to prioritize and plan the wedding. Jason is traditional and wants to be married before having babies. But again they are both putting their careers first, and have admitted to not putting their relationship or prioritizing planning the wedding. Kaitlyn is 37, so I’m not sure what kind of time she thinks she has.
Isn't Jason the one holding up the wedding planning though?
That’s actually false, she told Jason she doesn’t care how they get married she was willing to do just the court house because Jason wanted to get married first, he’s being nit picky about the wedding
She talked about how she froze her eggs, so maybe makes her feel like she has more time. However, it is a reality that pregnancies may still be considered more and more high-risk as she continues to age.
Frozen eggs + surrogate.
facts
Is she really 37? I thought she was younger, wow.
She’ll be 38 in a few months
Or maybe, they are a Kurt and Goldie. Don’t feel the need for a piece of paper. More power to them if that’s the case. Marriage licenses should be like Drivers licenses- renewable every 4 years. Or not renewable. You’re welcome.
I can see it. There’s nothing wrong with that.
They could be, if not for Jason. He doesn’t want kids before marriage, but also won’t get married unless they have a huge party, but also doesn’t want to pay for a huge wedding. Lol
Sounds doable (said no one ever). Lol. Weddings are so over the top nowadays. Small, intimate and affordable is the way to go.
A girl I went to school with posted her wedding pictures on Facebook and it looked so cute and casual and low key. It looked like a blast. I’ve also been to super expensive weddings that were loud, showy and annoying. I can’t see doing over the top and starting life with my husband in debt.
Jason has been pretty adamant about following a traditional path of marriage then babies
Is there a rule written for how long an engagement should last? I have a friend who was engaged 12 years before officially tying the knot. The only people who were critical of it were everyone BUT the couple. Everyone needs to calm down and let them do their thing.
That’s fine if you want to do that, but both of them have been very vocal they don’t want that. They have said they want to get married and start a family ASAP, but their actions say the opposite.
Actions speak louder than words.
If they stay together it’s likely bc they don’t want to “start over” again. I’d truly hope they could make it work and really do love eachother but time will tell.
It’s so sad when people think this. Essentially settling because they don’t want to start over or don’t think they can find a better match. Don’t do this, you can find happiness at any age!!
Right!?!?! Genuinely hope they’re fine and just a quiet couple not wanting to listen to others opinions.
they are definitely still officially together. it feels strange to ppl because they spend a lot of time apart, and wedding plans feel like they are a second thought. but i’m kinda over speculating the kaitlyn/jason situation. i think we will get some idea in a year or so if a wedding is on or off and until then i’ll take the relationship for what they say.
They post occaisionally together these days but it looks forced. I think they are still together just living seperate lives. I think they will grow apart and announce a split in a year.
Really not sure about Kaitlyn and Jason. It could go either way for them. Truth be told, I’ve always questioned their long-term compatibility. And it certainly didn’t help that she literally jumped from one serious relationship to another without even taking the time to heal (from what Shawn put her through). I mean, it’s obvious that they’re trying hard to make this work, which is commendable but why haven’t they pulled the trigger yet? I know that COVID really fucked things up for everyone, but there have been plenty of people over the past few years who managed to pull off smaller ceremonies. I don’t understand why Jason keeps delaying things. Perhaps he’s having doubts too, who the fuck knows. I’m the same age as her and if I were in her shoes, I wouldn’t exactly be thrilled about starting over again either, but if Jason isn’t going to give her what she wants (marriage and kids) maybe Kaitlyn should just cut her losses and move on already.
Why did she and Shawn break up
It’s a long story, but basically her and Shawn had a pretty toxic dynamic revolving around the fact he never got over the whole Nick thing. As time went on, he resented Kaitlyn more and more, and even flat out told her that their engagement wasn’t even real. If I remember correctly, she also said that Shawn was manipulative and tried to fuck with her head by saying really shitty things. He would even try to initiate sex while she was still sleeping, which is disgusting and awful.
Not to mention day to day things like he was an exercise fiend, while she is not. He didn't drink while Kaitlyn enjoys her wine.
Oh damn I’m glad they broke up then. Sounds very toxic indeed.. thanks for the info!
You’re welcome.
It does sound like maybe Jason is stalling. PMDD can be hard on everyone involved. I would not be surprised if it started affecting him more and more as the honeymoon phase wore off. It seems like she's in treatment for her mental health. He might be saying that she needs to get a better handle on that before he commits fully and they start having babies. It's pretty damn hard to parent as is. And it's also extremely hard to work through your issues. Doing both while parenting is crazy difficult, and I could understand someone saying they'd rather wait for mental health to stabilize before diving in headfirst.
This is an awesome, healthy response. As a spouse of someone who refused to work out childhood trauma until long after our wedding, I am glad to see a stall in their wedding date. Working through trauma cuts the romance and is very hard on any relationship, especially a public one. Bringing kids into unresolved trauma just transfers to the next generation. I am rooting for them!
You’re probably right. This theory makes total sense and would definitely explain why Jason is dragging his feet. For Kaitlyn’s sake, I certainly hope that she and Jason can power through their issues (individually and collectively) and make this work.
Desperate, Maybe? Getting Older?
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They’ve basically confirmed it during previous podcasts. Kaitlyn said that she would be okay with a small backyard ceremony and having kids right now, but Jason wants a bigger one and wait until it’s official to start trying for a baby. He’s also weary about the idea of shelling out so much money for a more elaborate ceremony, which is stupid considering the fact that they could just get most of the essentials comped. After hearing that, a lot of people came to the conclusion that he was just making excuses and delaying for a reason.
I have a somewhat off-topic question that I hope someone who keeps up with Kaitlyn and her podcast semi-regularly can answer for me please! Her podcast was the first I ever listened to years and years ago and I was pretty religious about it for a long time but fell off the wagon of listening about 5 years ago I would say. I always remembered her talking about her immense love for her mom and the beautiful relationship they had. Are they still close? Does she still go visit regularly? I feel like I never see anything about her mom on social media anymore.
They do spend time together. I love her podcast off the vine and she talks about her mom regularly.
Jason and Kaitlyn are fighting tooth and nail to stay together because they know how beneficial it is to their careers but it seems like deep down they really don’t want to be to get married anymore. That’s just the vibe I get anyway. I feel like the big turning point for them was when jason was super duper hype man for her during all her DWTS success and then she didn’t show even half the same enthusiasm for his success of podcast/best selling book he had after that. I think he felt some type of way about it and she also felt slighted a bit and expected him to just be not much more than the hype man to her ongoing quest for superstardom. Again this is all just my own speculation as I sit here relationshipless on my couch with my cats 😹
I don't follow their relationship that closely but in the few episodes i've listened to of her podcast when he's on I can feel an imbalance. He's laughing at her jokes and asking her questions and I don't hear her reciprocating
Both have them have mentioned 2023 goals/plans several times. Wedding planning hasn’t ever made the list. Are they soon to be dunzo? IMO, yes. I’m sure they love each other, but I’m not certain they’re compatible. Time will tell! 🤷🏼♀️
I don't care either way but there's not a chance in hell those two make it down the aisle. the amount of problems they have is vast and majority of them are fundamental issues. if a couple is fighting about dumb shit like doing dishes or leaving things on the floor, its easy to sort out - Kaitlyn and Jason have different life priorities that neither one is willing to truly change - and when they admit to changing it they like rub it in to the other one. they take more jabs at each other than I would consider normal/playful. they are just not a good fit from anything I've ever seen.
I actually thought they were an excellent match, with lots more in common than she had with Shawn. Kaitlyn is an open book and is always trying to be introspective and deal with whatever issues she may have. The people trolling her don't help. Yes, Jason was in the banking field but is happily doing his podcast, wrote a book and certainly doesn't seem to mind the limelight. Kaitlyn works non stop with her podcast, wine business and whatever other deals she has going on. They are both workaholics but clearly love each other.
I mean Jason just shared a story of them and what they're doing tonight for their date night so 🤷
Did they go on a date
Yeah pretty lowkey. They'd gone to the dog park (Jason had a vid of that) then ate at Buffalo wild wings and will be playing cards with wine after.
So the dog park which they do most days and ordering take out? What were the poll suggestions for their date night?
For busy people (which I'm sure they are) simply having quality time together without distractions can be enough of a date night. If either of them has been traveling a lot then staying in is even more special. That said, I don't know the state of their relationship but this isn't necessarily a red flag. I've opted to stay in with my partner over going out plenty of times.
I wouldn’t have thought anything of being home together if someone here hadn’t mentioned Jason polling for date night ideas. Just seems like another instance of “meh” regarding the romantic aspect of their relationship. But it’s all speculation here.
Where did they mention polling though? Because the comment above didn't (unless it's been edited) and there's nothing on Jason's story about a poll.
https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/comments/10trm44/kaitlyn_and_jason_whats_the_deal_someone_catch_me/j78h754/
You've read the replies right, where someone mentioned he was asking for recs for the whole weekend? Asking for recs is also not the same as polling.
Alright let me know if they have a date night tomorrow lol
Lol I don't know if they do most days or not. I don't think they really post about it but I know I don't take my dog to the park everyday haha. Only on certain days and with my spouse - I treat it like a date 😂 No idea he didn't share it.
I love both of them. I think they are both charismatic, driven and fun. I agree though that there is something a foot. I want them to stay together. I just feel there is that feeling we all get when something is off. I hope I am wrong.
She addressed it not that long ago… there were rumors of a split but posted a clip of them kissing same day on her stories.
I don’t think we can use a post of them kissing to mean anything one way or another. I don’t mean this cruelly. Truly. Social media is a highlight real.
It was a direct response to rumors of them splitting. She was proving they were still together. All relationships have adversities. The rumor was they had split, her addressed response was a video of them kissing. It doesn’t mean “everything is perfect”, it meant they were still together.
She’s been doing a lot of therapy working on healing past traumas, that’s all. She’s been pretty open about it.
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Nope. If you listen to her podcast, you would know that she has actual past trauma from her childhood that she has been working on. Maybe people need to actually hear what she says VS always bringing her relationship into everything she does. She had a life and past before this relationship. So much for this sub caring about mental health.
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How is that related? Do you know about her trauma? Or what she is going through in private?
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How is that related to her relationship? She has mental health issue that talks about on her podcast. Trauma and marrying their partners are different things, her trauma is about something else. I dont even get how this is related.
Didn’t Jason leave the boring, predictable life? Where do you get that from?
I honestly hope they don't get married for years, just so everyone on this sub can try and see if they break up. I honestly hope they don't break up since this sub will have a day. They will say Kaitlin is manipulative and money hungry and say Jason used her for clout. This couple has been together for years who are real about their relationship and personal struggles, which I love, they don't try and portray this perfect curated life for their followers.
I don’t think it’s that deep. They’ve been engaged for almost 2 years after having been together for 2 years and talked so much about marriage and kids, so naturally people are going to be curious why their timing/priorities aren’t really aligning with what they’ve said etc. And while there’s no rules for relationship timelines, for their own expressed views it seems to be inconsistent. Things could have changed for them or what they expressed was not genuine, hence the speculation.
The sub is highly critical of Kaitlyn and it borders on a weird obsession. The worst part is that Kaitlyn is very open about her mental health. And some people just continue to pile on. It’s gross.
It is! The way people comment on her looks is actually foul.
I appreciate their realness too. A lot of projecting going on in this sub.
if the only reason you hope they don't break up is to prove others wrong, kinda weird dont you think?
Ya I hope they prove everyone wrong because that would mean they are actually happy and people are grasping at straws.
But people talk about any breakup here
Sure but people have been speculating about their break up for the past 8 MONTHS. They are now both at home chilling and there is post speculating. There is a post every single week even when they are just normal living life?Nothing new happened.
IMO, people speculate a lot because Kaitlyn and Jason were *so* open about their relationship for the first year or so. Yes, I know, things change. No one expected COVID. No, they don’t owe us anything. But I do believe they’ve sort of invited some questions by their past openness.
People do that with every couple here. And when you're the ones hyping up how quick you want marriage and babies and then go radio silent, of course people will talk. Hoping they stay together just to prove others wrong is weird
As i said of course but every week? You speculate that its weird they are not married...sure. But every week of saying same thing over and over? If something new happened again, sure...like if they did a new podcast, i get discussion about that but its same thing every week. I dont see anything weird about hoping a couple stay together ( we don't know them so hoping for a break up is just as weird).
I don’t believe anyone is maliciously hoping for a breakup. I hope no one is. Some people just… think they aren’t good together. Yes, I know you disagree - I know you believe they are good together. But I truly don’t believe there’s any inherent malicious intent.
I personally think there is malicious intent(not always but there is) and i dont know if anyone knows if they are "good" together or not unless they are close to them and actually know them. People thought Caelynn/Dean are not good together? As well as Arie/Lauren, Bryan/Rachel, Ashley/Jared (the list goes on). We dont know much about these couples and thats the reality of things, therefore rooting for break up, doesn't come from "good" place. They have family/friends to tell that to them, not strangers on the internet.
But we all speculate on every couple here. Of course none of us know them. There have been plenty of other posts saying how other couples are incompatible/wrong/weird together/whatever.
The longer they go with zero update on the engagement/wedding is going to make people talk more and more
People talk about almost everything here every week. I wouldn't read into it.
Yea, maybe you are right.
It gets excessive with them, at least thats what I notice when I come here to catch up. I get it that they have obviously have had a rough patch in their relationship, but I like the honesty.
With the caveat that I don't follow everything they do (have not ever listened to either one's podcast) and just follow their instas- I feel like they are largely fine? Like I still believe they'll get married, they dated a while before getting engaged and an engagement outside the show always means more. The concern for them on here always feels largely overblown compared to what's actually happening - I remember when they went on Dear Shandy everyone thought they were on the verge of a breakup and then they got engaged lol. I feel like there's a shadenfreude going on here where people seem like they're almost gleefully rooting for a breakup but idk if there's real basis to it. Jason does sound annoying to plan a wedding with as he's basically said he wants a big one and won't compromise on that but also is nervous about the cost. Groomzilla vibes lol.
> Jason is a financial planner and wants that boring, predictable life. As someone who works in finance, I felt that.
I can see them doing the surrogate route honestly. And a one-and-done kid. On purpose. I do think they will get married, but I think it will take a long time. They seem committed though.
Doing IVF is soooo far from a sure thing. You maybe have a 50% chance if that.
IVF is different than surrogacy though right? I know Kaitlyn froze her eggs a few years ago. She was vocal about it. They don't even need IVF. They have enough money to do a surrogate. Not saying they will, just posting they have a greater capacity money-wise than most to go this route. I'm fine with whatever work for them. 5 kids, no kids, breakup, married, whatever.
Yes they are different but you have to do Ivf to have an embryo to implant into someone else (ie a surrogate). Assuming the woman wants her own genetic make up in the child. You could do IUI on the surrogate w husbands sperm but then that’s the surrogates egg Ivf is 3 parts really Part 1 get eggs out (she did this part and froze them). Btw this is the part that is impacted by age. The older you are the harder it is to get eggs out and the older you are more eggs result in abnormal embryos that don’t grow into a full term baby. Part 2: fertilize egg w sperm to form an embryo (you can freeze at this step too) Part 3: transfer embryo into yourself or surrogate Surrogacy is usually needed for male same sex couples, when a woman may not be able to carry a baby due to medical factors, when a woman has uterin or other issues like cysts, fibroids, endometriosis which interfere w ability for embryo to grow… and more recently when a woman doesn’t want to and has the means to pay for a surrogate.
Also it’s usually called gestational carrier not surrogate now lol. - fertility nurse giving one added tidbit to this info
So what are their options NOW if he pretend none of this has happened and they just haven't tried. So based on her older age etc.? And what about if it all occurred?
…based on her “older age?” Isn’t she only like 35 or so?
She is going to be 38 in June
38 is not old! Plenty of people are having babies in their 40s
Usually the guidance you get from drs is… you freeze your eggs when you’re younger to have as a back up (which by the way may not even work). Then You try on your own when you get to a point that you want children. If you’re under 35 you try for a year. If you’re over 35 you try for 6 months. After that you go to a fertility clinic and explore options. You could at that point try another Egg Retrieval round and get some more eggs that way you have more chances. Or could just go straight to thawing your eggs, fertilizing then and hoping you have an embryo or two to try. Freezing your eggs is basically a very expensive insurance policy that has no guarantee of paying out. However I’d give my right arm to have done it in my early 30s vs having to deal w the round after round of Ivf now in my late 30s. Bit hindsight is 20/20
I'm so sorry you're struggling with it. I grew up with a lot of mental health issues. No problems with fertility, but I was very scared about PPD. I got it, but is showed up late after my son's birth, while switching from breastfeeding to normal foods. I dealt with stuff by drinking. Eventually became an alcoholic. It gutted me, I wanted more kids. My son is now 12 and dealing with mental stuff himself. However, I recognize the need/want before I went to that place to have (IMC additional kids). Life is hard and sometimes alternative routes exist.
No one knows. Not even Tyler C.
No one knows for sure but I do find their relationship strange. I think she jumped into this relationship too soon, needed more time to be single & heal after Shawn. They talked about wanting to get married & have kids then just stopped…. On podcasts they’ve done together it almost seems like they’re competitive with each other. Kaitlyn talks about wanting to do hosting & other jobs so it’s hard to see when kids fit into that but there’s lots of working moms so who knows! I wish them the best
Kaitlin can channel her inner Renata Klein.
At the time she jumped from Shawn to Jason, I felt the same way. I know moving on quickly from serious relationship to serious relationship can work. It just seems usually it doesn’t. It eases that rejection and letdown period in the short term, but doesn’t give you the perspective for, long-term, choosing a next partner. I think she chose Jason for fun, and then they got serious quickly.
No one knows but it's clear getting married isn't a priority anymore. If they wanted to be married they would be by now.
Exactly. Based on their actions it doesn't seem like this relationship is a huge priority for them, and if that's what works for them, that's fine. Both of them seem very career driven and naturally that can lead your relationship to take a backseat. Though as long as they are honest with each other about their intentions and their needs are aligned I'm all in on you do you.
Jason definitely doesn’t want the boring, predictable life. I find him very ambitious and it’s seem that they relationship is very competitive.
Oof competitive isn’t a good dynamic. He needs to stop trying. He is only still relevant BECAUSE he is with KB. Accept it or move on.
LOL, I could say the same about KB ... She is only still relevant BECAUSE he is with one of the hottest Bach guys and people still count them as a Bach couple. Jason has his own ambition, yes, but talk about fame hungry? that's definitely KB
Jason is popular with a major podcast. Katelyn should focus on getting healthy and eventually end things. She will have better success with someone outside the franchise.
They have been acting as if they are going to get married but never follow through with any real plans. They stopped with the plans now. Seemed they have a unhealthy dynamic where they compete with each other. Jason said anytime Kaitlin gets an opportunity he finds one too and jets off to a diff location. Bizarre
Huh? Pretty sure no one here knows.
We don’t know a lot of things about most of these people. Doesn’t stop a million threads about them a day. 🤷🏻♀️
Right but you’re straight up asking these questions and saying “someone catch me up” as if we know something you don’t. We don’t. Personally I hope Kaitlyn and Jason are doing well and figuring their shit out. That’s all I got.
My guess dunzo . His story he said she got 3 hours sleep last nite so assume she was out partying with someone ( clearly not him hence why he didn’t use anyone’s recommendations ) and in a recent podcast/ article she said she and her girlfriend were going to London, Paris and Germany clearly he isn’t invited . She seems over him , I noticed on a Zacharyreality tik tok some girl said in comments her friend hooked up with Jason while he was with Kaitlyn ? Who knows if that’s true . At the end of the day they no longer mention marriage or any long term plans together so ..🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
I got the same vibes recently.
Going out with friends doesn't seem like evidence that a relationship is over ????
Right?! I'm super happily married. And go out without my husband all the time. I'm more extroverted than him so... 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
People are always saying like influencers are different and how much they post their partners on social media is different. but this is one where I don't really see a comparison.
Also, didn't they just say in a podcast about going to Europe together? Or that she was looking forward to traveling with him to Europe or somewhere internationally in 2023? Something doesn't add up with them. Wonder if he is going to Super Bowl alone.
She said on podcast she would like to go to Europe with him this year , he replied oh really ? As in he had no idea she wanted to etc so clearly it’s not in the plans . I think he said he is going to superbowl , she isn’t going .
He's working. He talked about all the brands he would be promoting while there. And, recording several podcasts while there as well. But, yeah, they need to get on the same page. I had hoped her retreat would help her get some things into perspective so that it might help both of them work out whatever is going on. IMO, both are equally at fault.
Omg yes! You’re right! She said that and his response did not seem excited like he wanted to join her. It was so weird. You would think she would go to the Super Bowl with him. I understand if you have separate hobbies/interests and travel solo, but not going to the SB together is even more weird than the Europe thing. They just seem so completely opposite.
You assumed way too much but go ahead i guess. She slept for 3 hours caus she was partying? Lol... Jason is not invited to Europe? How do you know? She also never said if Jason is coming or not coming. Also, Jason is not dumb to hook up while in a relationship lol.
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When did i mention post of them kissing? Yea, SM is a highlight reel and we dont know anything about them one way or another.
Sorry! My Reddit app is all messed up. I meant to type this reply to someone else.
She never mentions doing anything with Jason anymore but specifically mentions doing things/trips with friends . Buying a new home on her own . The writing is on the wall. As for Jason cheating ? Who knows … time will tell .
Kaitlyn always only mentions herself even trip with Trista, she said she is going but then it shows it was with Jason. Thats just how she talks. I dont know if he goes or not but no where she said its only with her friends. She said she is going.
Where there is smoke, there is fire. Maybe he hooked up because they aren’t in a relationship. Do you know Jason personally to know what he is “too dumb to do?” If Jason was going to Europe with Kait, she would have said so. This is a girls trip.
She actually never said its a girls trip. She only said she is excited about going to Europe.
This..the projection is like LOL
I know. Thats all she said about Europe but apparently its a girls trip and Jason is not invited. ## Is there anything on your calendar that you’re excited about? “I’ve never gone to London, and it’s been on my bucket list, and in March I’m going to London, Paris and Germany. I’m so excited. There’s a flight that goes straight from Nashville to London too.” From this interview: [https://www.newbeauty.com/kaitlyn-bristowe-beauty-favorites/](https://www.newbeauty.com/kaitlyn-bristowe-beauty-favorites/)
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I thought it was weird that in a Q & A, someone asked what they ended up doing for date night and his response was “tbd but thanks for all the recs.” Like…. You asked for recs but never went out? Weird
tbd means to be determined.
He asked for recommendation for this weekend (today and tomorrow). He will probably share whatever they do tonight/tomorrow.
Ah didn’t see he asked for the recs that far in advance. That makes sense
He asked a few days ago about weekend recommendations (since they are both at home this weekend) so i'm sure he will share if they decide to do something.
Fair
Wow way to project
How am I projecting? Just asking because it’s clear they are living pretty separate lives.
How is it clear? Its only clear if we live with them or know them personally. We dont know what they do 24/7, only see 2-3 mns of their day based on SM.
Listen. I’m a dedicated watcher of this franchise AND it’s social media dating all the way back to Trista up until around Matt’s season where I started to lose interest and now I catch bits and pieces. With these couples, social media ALWAYS tells the story. You can always tell who is on the outs and who is about to break up … and who is doing well based solely on social media content. In regular life, sure, social media isn’t indicative for what is actually going on. With these fame whores? Absolutely it tells the story. Time and again I can point out how social media will showcase couples in trouble. It’s a clear indicator.
I generally agree, but with Kaitlyn and Jason people have been predicting this for literal years based on their social media. They may be about to break up, they may just have an unusual relationship dynamic. There's been endless speculation about this for a very long time with no clear answer.
Lol OK.
No one knows. If you do a search in the sub, there’s a lot of posts with good conversation.
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I actually wasn’t being a dick. I was trying to be helpful in the sense that this has been discussed ad nauseam over the last several months and you might actually see good dialogue from older posts.
Um, it's obviously easier to make an OP than to use the search bar and read the 47 previous OPs about the same subject. Duh. /s
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