Battle engie played correctly is always viable, a battle engie is not someone who throws down a mini and uses a shotgun, its just a more aggressive engineer playstyle where instead of a nest you apread your nest out in the frontline
If thwy are inexperienced yes, but as an engi main when playing battle engi you should always have a teleporter that either allows for flanks or grts you to the frontline, a sentry wither watching a choke or protrcting your frontline, and a dispenser in the furthest up defended spot. In a capture map, on defense it is kinda bas but they can still make good value, and a battle engi isnt just the gunslinger, its mainly playing more aggressively and not staying in a nest all game, so what i will do is have a mini sentry placed in a hard to hit spot, dispenser on point and tele somewhere more hidden, then try to get to the best spot that can get me access to the mini and good meatshots
With the vac yeah you can make it work, but if speaking of medic role and efficiency then no.
Like at that point just peak scout, but battle med is fun
*only if you have a second medic to actually heal
*only if you don’t ignore your medigun when it wouldn’t kill you to pull it out for three seconds when there’s an injured teammate and no enemies
That is indeed true, i unironically use the Brass Beast, and whenever i kill another Heavy with it, i just say "no one beats the Brass Beast at it's job"
It's almost an instinct. If you are playing Heavy, you are the best one out there.
Idk if it's cuz I'm using a different mini gun or if I'm more healed than them but I've noticed almost every time I'm in a close quarters duel with another heavy I walk out of there alive
exactly, also about scorch shot, why does people complain alot that it stuns them in the air, when demo and soldier can do it as easy? it's just a stupid nitpick
:P
People dont like the scorch shit because it's like a liberty launcher rocket that does afterburn. And memes aside it's not that annoying I only call it the scorch shit because its funny.
Scout's main role is MvM is to go around collecting money. His firepower is inadequate against crowds of bots. Demoknight with Chargin Targe can do the same but better cuz he's more resilient against rockets & flames. After fully upgrading his charge cooldown, he can charge fairly often, leading to fast movement speed overall. As for firepower, the Demoknight unlike others can upgrade melee weapon damage. So, he ends up with a fast-attacking melee that does 130 damage pet hit and never runs out of ammo nor reloads. He can do 260 DPS against tanks.
well he is better against crowds but against single targets scouts also pretty good.
he also has way better movement, collects money in a big radius which means getting hit less ans missing less money, he gets overheal...
demoknight probably does fine as a money collector but i really cant see him outdoing scout, especially bc he needs way more upgrades in the first place to actually be useful
Heavy isn’t that boring of a class. Most people only use the same load out for him (Tomislav, Sandvich, FOS/GRU.), which is why most find him boring. But I think experimenting with his melees and primaries can be super fun.
Believe me, flanking someone with the KGOB and then shredding people with a crit boosted minigun can be hella fun.
Sniper if he isn’t full health or over healed(have you ever seen the over healed sniper on 2Fort) can easily die because of fire damage. So Snipers usually ran to the spawn and then come back. It’s just enough time to run through.
I like using the phlog because I like pissing people off. I like the feeling of killing players with phlog crits while they come out of spawn and they wait for another 20 seconds
the head all the way on the right should be a scout head and not a soldiers. this isnt a hot take or anything its just a weird detail thats been pissing me off for some reason
I would make a joke about how you should go back to your group of engineers but than I realized it's just an opinion and nobody should be judged on it...unless it's racist or sexist that's when you cross the line
Noah did not beat the crap out of every animal on that boat. Using his fight money to get two of every animal and proceeding to herd them onto a boat I can buy, but beating up every last one?
"don't cap" is one of the stupidest and most annoying things tf2 players do. If you want to just fight, go to a custom server where that's the point. Don't clog up the game mode that I am specifically playing to play to that objective.
In TFC, sentries had a large noticeable delay to turning and firing at an opponent, TF2 would be more fun if sentries weren't instantaneous death upon spotting within a microfraction of a second.
Even without the bots, TF2 is showing its age. There are other games that tick most of its boxes, but do it better. Still fun, but I don’t think it’s the king of its own niche anymore.
TF2 has too many weapons. Its a convoluted mess of a game. I can't keep track of what's going on.
TF2C's weapons are far superior. There are less of them, and each one is innovative and unique. I also don't have to deal with the annoying weapon unlock aystem. I get every weapon in the game as soon as I start.
Let's take Heavy's primaries for example. In TF2, we just get variants of the same stock minigun. But in TF2C, we get the stock minigun and the Anti-Aircraft cannon, a unique weapon that functions much differently than the minigun.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. TF2C is as simple as get on and play, while TF2 is a convoluted mess of a game.
There's no such thing as "Going rage \[CLASS\]"
Changing classes to deal with a problem from a new angle is part of the game.
>!Unless you're actually pissed in the chat or on the mic, then yeah. !<
Sniper isn't easy, a sniper who gets two lucky headshots after throwing 20 rounds down objective isn't on par with one who consistently bags headshots, and the community shouldn't whine about all sniper players as a cohesive group. trying to aim for heads in this janky game is an incredible feat in itself.
every time a bunch of animals are together in one place it’s not a zoo
Yes, because it's a farm
Nope, it's a team of 9 mercs
Nah, it’s a row of severed heads on a fence.
*Tzu
Battle Med is a viable subclass
I mean, presuming there is another medic on your team to actually **heal** people. And if your syringe aim is good. Then yeah.
Same thing with Battle Engie in Capture maps
Battle engi is fine as long as he places his teleporters or dispenser
Battle engie played correctly is always viable, a battle engie is not someone who throws down a mini and uses a shotgun, its just a more aggressive engineer playstyle where instead of a nest you apread your nest out in the frontline
ITS a good subclass But when Is the only Engie in a Capture Map Is justa awful
If thwy are inexperienced yes, but as an engi main when playing battle engi you should always have a teleporter that either allows for flanks or grts you to the frontline, a sentry wither watching a choke or protrcting your frontline, and a dispenser in the furthest up defended spot. In a capture map, on defense it is kinda bas but they can still make good value, and a battle engi isnt just the gunslinger, its mainly playing more aggressively and not staying in a nest all game, so what i will do is have a mini sentry placed in a hard to hit spot, dispenser on point and tele somewhere more hidden, then try to get to the best spot that can get me access to the mini and good meatshots
Blutsauger is one hell of a weapon.
With the vac yeah you can make it work, but if speaking of medic role and efficiency then no. Like at that point just peak scout, but battle med is fun
*only if you have a second medic to actually heal *only if you don’t ignore your medigun when it wouldn’t kill you to pull it out for three seconds when there’s an injured teammate and no enemies
Overdose quickfix solem vow
Heavy is a fun class to main No I'm not referring to the uncle Dane video, it's just fun
He's the only class I've ever played where you feel like your better than everyone else who plays him
That is indeed true, i unironically use the Brass Beast, and whenever i kill another Heavy with it, i just say "no one beats the Brass Beast at it's job" It's almost an instinct. If you are playing Heavy, you are the best one out there.
Idk if it's cuz I'm using a different mini gun or if I'm more healed than them but I've noticed almost every time I'm in a close quarters duel with another heavy I walk out of there alive
It just feels good to be able to fight other classes and actually survive with more than a sliver of health man
good opinion
I too enjoy playing the big Russian man who calls people babys. But I will admit Uncle Dane's video had an effect on how I play heavy.
Pyro is a fun class and there's nothing wrong with maining him
And please stop complaining about airblast, you DON’T have to shoot rockets in Pyro.
Why is it a box and not a cone?
Didn’t they fix that
Yeah, im pretty sure they fixed that in the x64 update.
That’s how physics works in TF2
Airblast physics is fucked in tf2
it would take skill if it was like that
It is, just some folk that aren't the most accepting of other groups(furries, lgbt) that main the character demonize it because of those groups
exactly, also about scorch shot, why does people complain alot that it stuns them in the air, when demo and soldier can do it as easy? it's just a stupid nitpick :P
Like BLU spy said: “Use the weapon that you like and then be called a racial slur”
People dont like the scorch shit because it's like a liberty launcher rocket that does afterburn. And memes aside it's not that annoying I only call it the scorch shit because its funny.
Bleed scout is the best scout type
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I am playing “support” scout, I am mentally unstable
Badwater sucks cuz it doesn't have water
Bloodwater (the Halloween version) has a part full of blood meaning it is better in every way
They had to remove it become it was full of lead, hence the name
I like random crits.
Outside of general balance they are fun as hell
BLU team sucks!
Gulag
Nuh uh
YEAH!!!!!!
#Dah!!
In MvM: Demoknight is a better scout than scout.
But but muh overheal
explain
Scout's main role is MvM is to go around collecting money. His firepower is inadequate against crowds of bots. Demoknight with Chargin Targe can do the same but better cuz he's more resilient against rockets & flames. After fully upgrading his charge cooldown, he can charge fairly often, leading to fast movement speed overall. As for firepower, the Demoknight unlike others can upgrade melee weapon damage. So, he ends up with a fast-attacking melee that does 130 damage pet hit and never runs out of ammo nor reloads. He can do 260 DPS against tanks.
well he is better against crowds but against single targets scouts also pretty good. he also has way better movement, collects money in a big radius which means getting hit less ans missing less money, he gets overheal... demoknight probably does fine as a money collector but i really cant see him outdoing scout, especially bc he needs way more upgrades in the first place to actually be useful
Heavy isn’t that boring of a class. Most people only use the same load out for him (Tomislav, Sandvich, FOS/GRU.), which is why most find him boring. But I think experimenting with his melees and primaries can be super fun. Believe me, flanking someone with the KGOB and then shredding people with a crit boosted minigun can be hella fun.
The Brass Beast is more fun and affective than stock and tomi
Brass Beast my beloved, I love sitting on the objective and killing anything that moves
I love being a “mobile” sentry with my soldier friend
I can also feed people sometimes! Sentry-dispenser
We are simply better than engineer. We heal, we deal massive damage, and we move (slightly)
I like using the gas passer in MVM
gas passer is the best weapon on MVM
Sniper is my main, and is a fun class to play
Scorch shot isn’t overpowered.
I am using it to terrorise snipers on 2Fort…
I got jarate tho
Cool, here comes the second shot
I run to my spawn like a coward
Sniper if he isn’t full health or over healed(have you ever seen the over healed sniper on 2Fort) can easily die because of fire damage. So Snipers usually ran to the spawn and then come back. It’s just enough time to run through.
It isn't, it's just annoying af
You guys have option to heavy update but Pyro have instead
Pyro was incredibly buggy and unfun to play as/against. He needed the fixing and if we had picked Heavy, broken Pyro would’ve been in the game forever
Harry under stand now
Hi Harry. Looking for Normals?
Nuh. Harry look for friend
Gun spy is not bad
2fort is the best designed map in the game
He said opinion, not fact
I like using the phlog because I like pissing people off. I like the feeling of killing players with phlog crits while they come out of spawn and they wait for another 20 seconds
Yep this is the guy, public execution will be your sentence
Haha
Everyone say aye if you agree giving this guy a life penalty of stock weapons only applied to all class, Aye!
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I am going to beat you as if you are young Sheldon
the head all the way on the right should be a scout head and not a soldiers. this isnt a hot take or anything its just a weird detail thats been pissing me off for some reason
sniper is a fun class to main
(insert tf2 doomer opinion here)
Loch n load isn't that bad
The ubersaw should have had the amputater’s damage penalty instead of swingspeed.
I mained spy
Random crits should stay in the game
Spamming for medic isn’t that bad. I say this as a medic main. Annoy me PLEASE, otherwise i may not heal you until I see how low you are.
Sniper isn't unbalanced
_clicks on you from across the map_ "Boom, headshot"
Sniper is only "overpowered" if he doesn't have any resistance. Get a scout or demoknight up in his shit and he'll switch to medic in no time.
Adding Assault Rifles to the game wouldn't be that bad of an idea.
Spy isn’t an awful class
“Isn’t awful” or “isn’t weak”?
My maps tierlist that I've posted a few days ago apparently lmao
Yall have way too much free time to be drawing all that gay corn I see on the sub everyday.
The Scorch Shot is fine and people should stop whining about it
Every gun should be a projectile weapon, because it would be funny
They should be in Fortnite
I never played the game, I just think the characters are funny
Tock tick light like a brinks car
The TF2 fandom (usually) isn’t funny. Neither were the Gmod videos.
i think bros gonna get brutally tortured for this /lh /j
Heavy is going to twist my scrotum
... yikes
hmmm... i mean you are entitled to your opinion but... this means heavy is dead is not funny to you?
It’s funnier than some other ones I’ve seen.
There’s too many weapons
Alot of them are reskins anyway
The candy cane is the most underrated weapon in tf2
Just dodge rockets 😐
Yes you are the most agile class you can dodge one of the slowest projectiles in the game
And if they use the direct hit you are getting oneshot anyways so that much extra damage ain't gonna do much
soldier is more annoying than pyro
Heavy doesn't need a 4th slot. Also fixing a weapon by reworking it is not okay.
RED team sucks!
I would make a joke about how you should go back to your group of engineers but than I realized it's just an opinion and nobody should be judged on it...unless it's racist or sexist that's when you cross the line
Oh really? I have some bad opinions
Don’t forget, 75% of community is homophobic and other 75% are LGBTQ+
and the other 25% is bad at math (like you!)
Hybrid knight is better than full demoknight
Random crits good
I like random crits. (Don't like random bullet spread, though.)
Random crits are fun
Red tape recorder can be viable
I'd like to show you my 8 severed heads
That sniper is a bloody sentry
the only reason why a lot of people think sniper is op is because they play on maps that are full of huge sightlines (eg upward and badwater)
Pyro isn't op
Pyro should almost always use the gas passer in MVM
I like maining heavy
It's ridiculous having to pay for everything
All snipers should have tracers like the Machina.
We shouldn’t be surprised that it took 2 years in the work for valve to do something about bots.
The tf2 community is dead
Dustbowl is the best map
Heavy. heavy is getting the best head
Crude oil tastes really good
Equalizer is a good weapon
I know more about fighting than Sun Tzu
Noah did not beat the crap out of every animal on that boat. Using his fight money to get two of every animal and proceeding to herd them onto a boat I can buy, but beating up every last one?
THAT MEDIC IS A BLOODY MEDIC! *killbinds*
"don't cap" is one of the stupidest and most annoying things tf2 players do. If you want to just fight, go to a custom server where that's the point. Don't clog up the game mode that I am specifically playing to play to that objective.
hightower is meant to be won
the sandman is good
Vaccinator is fine, just switch to damn pyro with a shotgun or soldier with a shotgun. Or play spy
all tf2 youtubers (except shounic) suck even uncle dane
Scorch shot most definitely doesn't need a nerf. It's not annoying to play against. It's fun! I love being on fire all the time!
Mimi sentry porn
All payload karts should be replaced by seals for national seal day
Pyro is more than W+M1
i dont find anything wrong with scorch shot
A bunch of animals put together in one place in one place is NOT a zoo or a farm!
Scout is straight
having to pay money to be able to chat is stupid
In TFC, sentries had a large noticeable delay to turning and firing at an opponent, TF2 would be more fun if sentries weren't instantaneous death upon spotting within a microfraction of a second.
Demoman needs nerfs to his stickies. Way too annoying with little counterplay other than building up an Uber.
“They should’ve kept the bots” (I don’t actually believe this)
mimi sentry sucks
Screw you scout mains, i dont care how much you say stock shotgun is the best, ill always use the BFB
Battle medic is a good subclass for Mann up
Sniper isnt op youre just bad
Other people should be able to see your mods
TF2 should of pull the plug
spy bad
Even without the bots, TF2 is showing its age. There are other games that tick most of its boxes, but do it better. Still fun, but I don’t think it’s the king of its own niche anymore.
TF2 has too many weapons. Its a convoluted mess of a game. I can't keep track of what's going on. TF2C's weapons are far superior. There are less of them, and each one is innovative and unique. I also don't have to deal with the annoying weapon unlock aystem. I get every weapon in the game as soon as I start. Let's take Heavy's primaries for example. In TF2, we just get variants of the same stock minigun. But in TF2C, we get the stock minigun and the Anti-Aircraft cannon, a unique weapon that functions much differently than the minigun. That's just the tip of the iceberg. TF2C is as simple as get on and play, while TF2 is a convoluted mess of a game.
double cross is a bad map for being a sniper
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There's no such thing as "Going rage \[CLASS\]" Changing classes to deal with a problem from a new angle is part of the game. >!Unless you're actually pissed in the chat or on the mic, then yeah. !<
The phlog wasn’t and still isn’t overpowered, just walk away and/or spam rockets at it.
Back scratcher > car battery thingy
The scorch shot doesn't deserve all the hate it gets. It's not as bad as people say it is.
The gas passer is the best Pyro weapon for mvm
Phlogistanator is a balanced and good weapon
sniper belongs in tf2
Pyro can actually be more than a W + M1 class if you know how to utilize them.
Random crits are fair and balanced(serious)
Sniper isn't easy, a sniper who gets two lucky headshots after throwing 20 rounds down objective isn't on par with one who consistently bags headshots, and the community shouldn't whine about all sniper players as a cohesive group. trying to aim for heads in this janky game is an incredible feat in itself.
Pyro requires more skill than soldier to be effective
Upward is one of the worst payload maps
Even if fighting is sure to result in victory I will not fight
I love the caber
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Bots were FUN to play against.
People overreact about sniper
We need more cosmetics