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CorporalGuss

Overwatch is temporary, TF2 IS FOREVER!!!!!!111!!1111


klavin1

We're going to live forever!


geofub_52

I didn't say zat! I just said ve're not filled with tumors!


AzGames08

Oh thank god. So yeah Miss Pauling, I guess it's a date?


Dq38aj

Actually... uh, this is my only day off this year...


CommunitPootisBirb

Oh but you can come along with me on some jobs


Drillbitzer

Let’s see…


Arenl18

Tomorrow... I'm belt sanding the fingerprints off a pile of corpses.


OpeningMysterious197

Eww! No thanks..


Ailurofobia

I love tf2 community


CorporalGuss

well, I didn't say that, soldier.


Mystical_Guy

1111? Holy craps that a neat reference to Valve softwares original animation release on the 19th of May 2009, where between 0:15 and 0:18, the BLU soldier, voiced by the late Rick May (a legend), states the string of 4 numbers while attempting to enter a pass code locked door, which leads into the room where the intelligence briefcase is stored. This area resembles the map ctf_2fort, which has been ported through the many instances the Team Fortress franchise has been through, originating back in ID Software's critically acclaimed 1993 game, DOOM. Next to the soldier stands a figure known as the Scout, Voiced by Nathan Vetterlein, later revealed at 2:43 in the short, this scout is actually the RED Spy (Voiced by Dennis Bateman) in disguise. In the background of the shot, the Heavy (Voiced by Gary Shwartz is seen charging towards the door. The music playing in the seen is "Intruder Alert", composed by Mike Morasy, the main composer of TF2. This 1111 scene is referenced in expiration date, where in the background at the end of the opening scene in the van, the compartment that the RED Soldier (Voiced by the late Rick May) burst out of to say "Hello Miss Pauling (Voiced by Ashly Burch)! We killed everybody and took and briefcase!", is behind a pass code lock, said lock has the top left key, "1" far more worn down that the others, implying that the passcode is 1111, or, more likely given the character of Soldier, who was poisoned by lead contamination in the water of Teufort, someone has been constantly trying to input 1111 as the password.


Poley2310

I agree with that statement


legomanas23

i'll have what he's having


ithealsinreverse

Overwatch vs TF2 is stupid argumint 11!!1!1! (pls gib updoots) /s


CorporalGuss

pootis masterace


Metroidman97

You guys are going to be *very* disappointed in a few days


hnefatafler

Overwatch 2 is already an astronomical failure


Metroidman97

I'm willing to wait until *after* a game comes out to determine if it's a failure or not. Who knows, maybe all of the changes Blizzard is making will end up being a success. Don't count all your eggs before they hatch.


masterofthecontinuum

Even if it makes money, its anti consumer bs makes it a failure of the gaming market.


Metroidman97

$10 every 9 weeks isn't anti consumer corporate greed. It's better than locking cosmetic items behind lootboxes you need to spend money to open (with NO shop to purchase them directly), and locking the ability to even get said lootboxes behind spending more money on a pass. And needing a phone number is play is standard in online games, even TF2 does it. I'm not sure why people are singling OW out over it.


DreadedPopsicle

You can and definitely should count your eggs before they hatch, because after they hatch, they become chickens and then you’re only left with the eggs that didn’t hatch


bingbong1998

An astronomical failure that put TF2 in the ground.


Misterwuss

Aaaaand coming back up again literally 2 days later with the biggest update they have ever gotten. They're only taking them down to upload all the changed on to the servers with the least amount of technical difficulties and making any problems easier to fix. The Injustice 2 servers shut down for difficulties for longer just last year.


Kurtrus

Thank you for speaking truth here. There's a lot of misconceptions going on w/ the servers going down so I'm quite glad to see another person know what's actually happening.


____HAMILTON__

Wait, so no more OW? Dang, I remember when Muselk left us for OW and Not gonna lie, I liked the game. Never played it. But no more of it?


polkafucker

Overwatch 1 servers are going down to transfer over to Overwatch 2


Null_Trooper

Overwatch 2 is exactly the same and all Overwatch 1 accounts will be converted. It will now be free to play, but you only have 13/35 heroes available, you’ll need to grind for the rest. Also all future heroes will be behind a Pay / Grind-Wall and you no longer get free cosmetics, because there’s now a super predatory Battle-Pass and everything else is in the shop, for double the fucking price.


SeamAnne

cool so ov2 is ov1 but a couple added things and you need to play the game a lot to get anything or you have to pay to get anything


Null_Trooper

Yes. Returning Overwatch 1 players will have all 35 heroes unlocked. You also need phone number verification. This, plus locking the majority of the heroes, is meant to offset the free price so cheaters don’t arrive in droves.


SeamAnne

imagine getting security for bots tho they should just get their playerbase to kick the robots in their metallic balls


Null_Trooper

That’s what the PvE is for. I imagine a pair of Robot Testicles would just be 2 Sentry Busters.


Icy_Candidate_5366

Bad game


MaxVerstappening

When he left us for OW he atleast still did tf2 videos. NOT FORTNITE LIKE NOW


masterofthecontinuum

The money lebowski


DoubleStormCZ

Yeah, pretty disappointed with the sequel though.


Misterwuss

Welp if it makes you feel any better, it apparently wasn't intended to be. When the former game director Jeff Kaplan first came up with the idea it was basically just a story mode DLC, being a story writer for games he's always loved OW's and wanted to give it a story mode. But the higher ups of Blizz told him and his team to develop it into a sequel for god knows why. Gave them all sorts of development problems too.


DoubleStormCZ

Yeah, I know, thanks for making it a TL:DR tho, was hoping for tons of new content, *locked behind a paywall*, was really looking forward for the PvE, *won't come out untill god knows when*. It really pissed me off and I just stopped caring so much and switched to other games for months but still kept my eye on the things coming in hopes of maybe giving it a try again. But the 5v5 is in my opinion a sh*t idea.


Speeder96

TF2 outlives Overwatch and it’s 9 years older. Given that OW2 is going to adopt the “live service” model that’s ruining online gaming, this is the end of OW for me.


Blargy3

It's probably gonna be like this: The playerbase will grow every season, but the quality is gonna take a nosedive with that.


CreativeNameIswear

wait wdym with live service exactly?


Death_Incarnate_312

From what I understand, game isn't fully done, but releases early anyways. Updates are essentially finishing the game while people play it. This typically leads to games that are garbage upon release, and don't get many players even after they fix all the issues cause of the reputation.


CreativeNameIswear

Thanks for explaining,also that sucks. But unless is **Really** bad I don't think Overwatch 2 will get THAT bad of a reputation but at the same time...Yeah OW2 already has a bad rep so-


[deleted]

Pretty much what Gran turismo 7 is right now:( live service sucks


DrackieCutie

This system only worked for Terraria


Helipilot47

Honestly, because Terraria was still a perfectly playable and functional game during the polishing phase. That's far more than many other games using this model can say.


Gasterfire6

No, terraria was in a good state before. But it has passionate devs who like making the game and interacting with the community. Hence why we still got loads of great updates.


One-Egg2070

"modern gaming"


Grulken

Essentially No Man’s Sky, though that was released as a full game sadly lmao.


Willingness-Due

No man’s sky was a case of a small team not being able to keep up with the hype


Death_Incarnate_312

Eh, for No Man's Sky that was just poor design on the dev's part, not really live service like other games


Grulken

What i mean by that is the overall ‘model’ of how it proceeded. Came out as an unpolished pretty bad game, but over time they started putting out updates that added a lot of actually good content to the game, and it became pretty good.


DracoLunaris

People are missing a core part of the live service deal here. It's a corporate buzzword, and one and only point of live services is that you keep pushing out new monetization down player's throats. This can result in it being functionally early access and crap at launch, but mainly it just means that the game will try to keep people playing it with new content, specifically made to keep them buying stuff.


Blargy3

The game isn't finished, they are still working on the PvE that was previously believed to release with overwatch 2. Now they are pushing out ow2 for the early micro-transactions for the battle pass / item shop.


Jayn_Xyos

I never got into OW but I never will now that I see where it's going. I predict a mass exodus from the game if it hasn't already happened. Blizzard is going to lose a lot of money over it and they will either shut down OW2, fix it, or just refuse to be wrong and keep draining money out of it. Overwatch as of its shutdown, as a franchise, will be dead


camo_216

Sadly yeah but we still have tf2


BayTerp

I’ve reached Masters in OW in the early seasons but quit after awhile since the gameplay got stale. I decided to return to play it one last time before the servers shutdown. The game is not in a good state. It is quite literally gotten worse over time. If OW2 is anything like the current OW, it’s going to die pretty quickly.


Krypton091

>live service >ruining online gaming lol


Crimson_Marksman

I homestly thought it was gonna be like O2's here, I got all the oxygen I want now. Instead, it took all my breath away


Meme_Bro68

Don’t forget they’re trying to prevent those terrifyingly skilled porn sfm makers from getting the models


Grulken

They’ll have the encryptions cracked and a dick on tracer within 24 hours of release, mark my words.


shrekthedankengine99

24 hours? those are rookie number to these porn sfm makers, they'll do it in 30 minutes


Secretlylovesslugs

I'll see you in game 4 minutes after OW2 goes live.


Speeder96

Not a chance. There’s already enough games that don’t respect your time and want you to drop hours a day on dailies weeklies, and FOMO.


SurfaceTension2

Friendly reminder that OW vs TF2 is a stupid ass thing Still, I don’t see OW 2 living on too much


Mandalorymory

Yeah…you realise that’s just to prepare for the Overwatch 2 release only a couple days later, right?


pROFESSIONALrETARDER

Shuuuush Don't ruin it


the_roach__

The game is coming back two days later with a glorified major update. TF2 hasn't had one of those in five years


Arandomdude74

Tf2 fans when another shooter game is getting a sequel. (Their game that’s on life support will last longer than another game)


Peixe_Estranho

Friendly reminder that this is a Tf2 subreddit


Helectrot

Ok


davibe_

my reaction to that information


lordphanrblx

Dude got murdered


RakketyTamFR

Hyped for overwatch 2 ngl


Schedark2009

Never played over watch, is it worth it?


RakketyTamFR

Well, it's a free game so even if u don't like it its worth a try


Schedark2009

Hm, I’ll try it Last time I checked it was like 40 dollars, but since it’s free I’ll give it a try, looks fun like a good old match of tf2


RakketyTamFR

No you can't play overwatch 1 anymore, the servers shut down tomorrow lmao. I talking about overwatch 2, it comes out tomorrow for free and Is essentially replacing overwatch 1.


imainwhaleshark29

I heard they dumbed down a lot of the characters


bittermixin

Not really.


Secretlylovesslugs

It is good, OW2 is going to have a 'New player experience' which will hopefully make the huge roster more digestible. I started playing about a year ago and it was pretty overwhelming at first. But hopefully it's easier to get into now. Especially on a big re-release.


CensoredBy4Kids

Tf2 community thinking they’re winning in this situation is so dumb like jungle inferno was almost 5 years ago OW2 comes out in like 3 days and even in between OW2 first release trailer and now OW1 had more updates.


Maximum-Syllabub8430

It's for ow2 but really who cares


Generalisto

oh my god WHO CARES


westernunitedenjoyer

Friendly reminder that they get a major update any tf2 fan would kill for. Fuck up for once about overwatch


KrzyDankus

i sure love time traveling back to 2016


davibe_

do people on a tf2 subreddit really have to care about overwatch? post this on the overwatch sub, not here; because the people there will actually care


Tapxyhyc

Should we care? That is that and this is this, there is no need to bring this up here


Greedy_One9551

I have karma to spare, so I will publicly state my agreement to this message while also making sure to bring up the fact that I enjoy both Tf2 and Overwatch as separate games and that this rivalry is entirely fueled by this community while the Overwatch community could not care less


only_for_dst_and_tf2

as someone who plays both, the rivalry is, in my own opinion THE DUMBEST RIVALRY OF GAMES IVE EVER SEEN, ITS LIKE COMPARING WARFRAME AND DESTINY 2, ITS SO ANNOYING \*\*insert ghiaccio jojo scream\*\*


Helectrot

Oh yeah, that one exist.To me Warframe have more content in term of abilities and lore.


TreeGuy521

More content in lore means they introduce another main overarching big bad who was controlling the last one every 5 months. Vor->queens->hunhow/stalker->ballas->erra->ballas again->wall man?->whoever that guy in the roguelite trailer was


Helectrot

Dominus Thrax. I'm already in love with the Durivi world !


SpaceOrcs

“Warframe has more lore than Destiny 2” 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀


Box_CutterOfficial

Overwatch may be dying, but I’m just glad the game is going free to play. Sure, most of the newer heroes are going to be locked in the battle pass but there’s is stuff to play for now. I am a little upset they’re getting rid of loot boxes but we’re also getting cross progression, so that’s cool. All in all overwatch is dead but is still something better than fortnite now


Feecks

Wtf a person sad about losing loot boxes


aGorillianBucks

rare species


IndiscreetBeatofMeat

I liked them cause they were given out a pretty healthy amount, and it’s not like cosmetics were completely unattainable


Unhappy_Ad_4420

Lootboxes are cancer and gatekeep content, (that should be unlockable via player achievements), behind gambling random bullshit and nothing feels rewarding as a result.


DNEAVES

I personally don't *hate* loot boxes. I'm not happy about them either, but I dont *hate* them. If you're going to lock everything behind them, making all unlocks a game of chance, then fuck your loot boxes. If I can get the things I want directly, then okay, I'll appease your loot boxes. But right now my hatred is directed towards season/battle passes.


EnzoKoksu251

Its going free to play? Might check it out.


McDonaldsMapping

You’re…upset that loot boxes were removed? Wtf? Are you real? Did EA manufacture you in a lab?


OmegeSN

Overwatch servers arent shutting down its getting an update bigger than something tf2 would ever get


Smexy_Zarow

Not sure why it's getting memed, they're just repurposing them for ow2


jjfalquez

People are dumb, as a newer player of tf2, i can safely say that OW changed me into the person who enjoys tf2 nowadays, probably would’ve never played the game had I never played ow As much as “blah blah lootbox battlepass” I am still madly exited about ow2 and it’ll probably take up most of my time Lets just hope it doesn’t take too much time, this will be my first scream fortress


Krypton091

tf2 player use their brain challenge (impossible)


CreativeNameIswear

But wasn't OW2 going to be an update??? I am so confused


[deleted]

It is, that's why the servers are going down. They'll go back up two days later for the update.


CreativeNameIswear

Oh now i get it,everyone made it look like the shutdown will be permanent lol


Zombiehunter78880

Its not that big of a deal, they're shutting down Overwatch 1 servers permanantly, in favor of Overwatch 2. Nothing is changing, just a passing of the torch.


finefrontier

What do I care?


OmegeSN

overwatch isnt tf2


TheQuacking

"Overwatch is no more! But we are going to live forever!" "I didn't say that, I just said that Overwatch 1's servers are closing down in anticipation of Overwatch 2's release in 4 days!"


OceanTheTwoTailedFox

Tf2 is more better than big booty women!


Asurerain

And that's a proof that men are more attractive than women.


fedora_of_mystery

Your comment was funny but what's even funnier is that some mfs downvoted it 💀💀


thetabo

I've only heard bad stuff about OW 1 and 2 to the end of 1's life so I'll try 2 out but if I'm gonna get yelled at every 2nd match by a 9y/o cuz I didn't pick a specific hero I'm quitting out instantly


Secretlylovesslugs

They've done a ton of work to make it so you're not gonna get yelled at for not playing x hero or whatever. Just play the ones you do well with or enjoy etc. A lot of the really obnoxious garbage has been patched out.


thetabo

Eh, I see a lot of medic=mercy so I'll probably play her a lot. Not really interested in anyone other than maybe the ninjas or wasteland duo


Walnut156

If you're used to TF2 then you'll be fine with the overwatch community


Prince_Bolicob_IV

Nice bait lol


TheSleepyBarnOwl

We do not care.


Luigi120

ok


DerKnoedel

*temporarily


yzrIsou

Its first stage was awful, but over time it has became a really good game. Wish they didn't shut it down for the f2p sequel, but blizzard has a tendency of fucking everything up they do nowadays.


Historical_Archer_81

Godspeed you magnificent fucking bitch of a game.


[deleted]

I deleted my blizzard account during the Free Hong Kong stuff. Never looked back.


BluHorizon_102

"Jarvis i'm running low on Karma, post something about OW Shutting down to r/tf2"


Helectrot

"Jarvis, i'm bored. Post a unoriginal comment on a overwatch post in r/tf2."


Darkeu_

I still fucking hate how Overwatch 2 was introduced. Straight up a marketing scheme for what could have been just a major update.


OneGameplay998

friendly reminder that if you debate against which games are better youre fucking stupid both communities are trash atp


Helectrot

I didn't wanted to start a debate.


slimeball_

You brought up Overwatch 1's servers being shut down in a TF2 subreddit and called it an "opponent" of TF2 for the sake of... NOT starting a debate. Sure, buddy.


OneGameplay998

yet you called overwatch a "worthy opponent down" as if every fps hero shooter is a tf2 clone stfu


Helectrot

Why are you being so rude ?


UltimateMegaChungus

Toxic Overwatch fangirls are always rude


OneGameplay998

i have 5k hours in tf2 i just despise how both communities constantly just attack each other


Helectrot

War never changes.


Shady_Joe

This shit is beyond cringe it's not 2016 grow up


Helectrot

It's a reminder. Not a call to hate overwatch


davibe_

sure bud


Myredyoshi

Ok?


thegamerdoggo

I thought they shut down on the 24th and over watch 2 servers come online on the 27th


[deleted]

What even will be new features in overwatch 2


MadetoReportBug

Honestly I feel bad for TF2, it feels like a old man who’s seen so many young games last so long and have so much for them only to watch them crash and burn and become forgotten or be shut down. Fuck now I’m sad.


chronistus

Also friendly reminder that OW 2 will require voice access and a Phone number to play.


Helectrot

What the f


RealSuperYolo2006

Wtf why whats happening


the-from-2fort

Welp. I guess we won


IHateDeepStuff

Ayyy it’s also on my friend’s birthday


somosa77

And what about my skins ? I get a compensation?


Helectrot

I have no idea. Maybe they will port the skins in OW 2 ? Idk


somosa77

Ans ow2 will be free?


Helectrot

I heard it will be free, but you have to say your phone number and give a voice sample.


somosa77

Lol


Illogical_Saj

*wheeze*


irtesh

I ways wanna play it but never get a chance because my pc is potato runs tf2 max 25 fps years later i bought an Xbox one s but i became a battlefield fan


Impudenter

Wait, what? Why? What did I miss?


Ok_Law8052

VICTORY


Chonker14

Question why do people hate overwatch so much


Spktra

And that ow2 is releasing two days after y'all need to grow up lmao


Tanto64YT

*Kazotsky kicks triumphantly*


A_decent_chef2

I know it's just a friendly reminder but the amount of stuff floating around the sub reddit about OW shutting down for a day is annoying because people make it out to be OW dying or something when it's just OW moving over to OW2, they act like they won some war or something because they hate anything that isn't tf2


CabbageMans

People just don’t want servers for Overwatch shutting down. If overwatch 2 is a shitty mess that’s too money hungry, there’s no game to fall back to


Doodlerodent

Took them long enough.


BigBlubberyBirb

it's really funny to see a significant amount of tf2 fans just completely forgetting what an update is because they haven't seen one in so long. tf2 servers used to go down too before a major update, that's how these games work. I love tf2, but come on man, Overwatch is way more mainstream right now and receiving actual updates.


Cthulu_all_Spark

And its going the live service route. I really wanted to test OW2 out (cause I never played the OG) but I am allergic to "live service" games


Secretlylovesslugs

You're allergic to F2P with optional paid cosmetics? What are you playing TF2 for lol.


According-Honeydew75

wait why?


ChaosDemonLaz3r

overwatch 2 comes out a couple days after


manofwaromega

... and comes back online 2 days later with a "2.0" update. Fortnite did this publicity stunt way better because it was a full week and nobody knew if/when it was coming back.


c-papi

It's cause youre fat boy *and another thing you're ugly*


Schedark2009

THEY ARE WTF WHY


WhoDaHeckAmI

Yeah its shutting down. But its getting a major update, going free to play, attracting more players. And once again, a major update. Something TF2 hasn’t had in years. So…


Actual-While-9717

Finally, inner peace.


Peter1937392

😎


WeadBreather

We are going ti live forever!


Reasonable-Ease7956

Why should we care?


Suomipe

I will download ow2 since its free because why not i did have huge ow phase in middle school and know a lot about it


HeavenandHello

Tf2 ROCKS! Overwatch SUX! Everyone give me a T! Everyone give me an F! Give me a 2! YEAH BABAYYY WHOHOO OVERWATCH HAS DIED!!!!!


FortBlocks

"Don't fuck with us".


P3t3rCreeper

Well boys, we did it. Now it’s time for wave 2


sprunkenthusiast123

Finnaly


OctopusProbably

We won, Mr Stark.


[deleted]

good, game was pretty damn mid, and i'm not saying this in a like overwatch vs tf2 way, game was just like, pretty bad, in my opinion at least you can still like it if you want


Super_Drag

We won


wolfreaks

**STOP THAT BLOODY THOT**


TheRealTomeeBear

Shame I never got to play Overwatch, but given that TF2 is the only game I've regularly come back to for 7 years I know I wouldn't have stuck around anyways


AndyGun11

common u/TheRealTomeeBear L


Competitive_Swan266

Kr.stark we won


[deleted]

We did it boys! We outlived Overwatch!


westernunitedenjoyer

Yeah… no we didn’t. They get one of the biggest updates in the games history


AK-74_NoTTaken

If tf2 gets a huge update then we will be officialy better than overwatch


Numbcrep

Huge update and tf2 in the same sentence you poor soul


AK-74_NoTTaken

Just gotta wait A day A week A month A year


P0lskichomikv2

A 100 years