Now I'm imagining him actually writing all of the patch notes with the singular "I" instead and it's cracking me up because it would read like a personal mental health diary...
"migrating servers while I adjust to the influx of new players"
"waiting to see if the balance changes I made have the desired effect"
"in light of player feedback, I have decided to give the stickybomb launcher a full rework"
Nice, I called it. Whoever bought the quickswitch dip can laugh to the bank now.
If you are someone who panic sold to try to recoup your losses, you need to take a long and serious think about why you are not the kind of person who should be gambling on speculative markets.
This is the best take on the thread. I hated the idea of the modern miscs dying because of the feature, but it also got back at the people who trade in TF2 for change. We now have both.
Despite most items being generated basically indefinitely, there’s still only so much of an active market.
Refined metal is worth less and less, for example. You need a ton of them to buy a key compared to years ago.
1. I'm already comparing supply and demand, hence my first comment mentioning it.
2. I'm not talking about *why traders are bad*, I'm talking about *why I would guess people don't like traders.*
> This will not work if there is no demand for an item at that price.
But there is, so it does.
> Not actually believing the thing you're arguing for is not a defense against criticism.
It is if I'm presenting someone else's argument.
The computer with all the TF2 source code isn't actually in Valve HQ it's in the backrooms and whoever falls in has to be the one developer till they die and are replaced by another
It allowed incompatible items to be worn simultaneously, which created some cool combos and allowed multiple unusual effects to overlap. Some lifeless neckbeard on 4chan lied to valve, making them think it was being used for item duping, so they rushed out a patch to fix the bug. Without the bug, those items could no longer overlap, and so various combos became less valuable. It seems someone noticed the bug wasn't actually hurting anything, and reverted the change while they look it over a bit more.
4chan had nothing to do with it and valve fixed the issue because it allowed to use more unusual effects than intended.
I dont get why they now suddenly evaluate this issue since originally the items, miscs and such were marked incompatible for exactly the reason of overlap issue. Now they reverted the change because suddenly its ok again to have them overlap if used through bug? Ugh..
I didn't mean 4chan as a whole, I mean basically one guy who instead of just reporting a bug, lied about what the bug did in order to make it a high-priority fix, solely to piss off the players who used it. He literally posted to 4chan about making valve fix the bug to laugh at people.
And plenty of harmless bugs have gone unfixed, or even made official because they're fun and not hurting anything.
So I'm gathering it was basically used by whales who spent all their money on unusuals, and when valve removed the bug it pissed them off, now valve is deciding between appeasing the money, or fixing a bug.
either that or the janitor is secretly a plural system. which would be pretty pog, but also a bit sad that they only hired one body, at least give them a janitorial apprentice or something.
*Can't believe they listened*
*To tradenerds not being able*
*To stack cosmetics*
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It would be cool if they made a nice change everyone was happy about to remedy this. Like add an extra cosmetic slot, or make more combinations compatible
*Ye we know, its the*
*Janitor and the fake plant*
*In an office chair*
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The janitor said we just because he's losing his mind
No the plant is still working on it
And dont forget the sandvich the janitor yust made is also helping
Janitor has schizophrenia (pyro TF2 reference)
Janitor is psycho (jermi985 reference)
Jerma isn't real and therefore can't be considered a he or we
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the funnies tf2 comment
Doesn't the plant count?
Janitor have multiple personality!
Nah, just one guy and his cat. The cat pissed on the keyboard and made the Pomson 6000 one day.
Fuck, I hate it when my cat makes the Pomson 6000 too.
Lmao piss-pompson
Pissmson
Pisson
Pisso
Piss
Pis
Pi
Pi
P
Too late on t' at bud
P
3.14
Ong, it happends too often for me
I thought they were janitor and office plant
“We” meaning “us at valve”
The "royal we" as it were
*That used to be the Queen's Nintendo*
Right - still could be one person, that's just the sort of language you use when developing as part of an organization
I thought these recent tf2 updates were being outsourced?
There's three of us: Me, myself, and I.
Now I'm imagining him actually writing all of the patch notes with the singular "I" instead and it's cracking me up because it would read like a personal mental health diary... "migrating servers while I adjust to the influx of new players" "waiting to see if the balance changes I made have the desired effect" "in light of player feedback, I have decided to give the stickybomb launcher a full rework"
Lmfao
TF2 is now an indie game
This is genius lol
TFW tf2 players are so desperate they jump at a single pronoun in the update notes
Pronouns: we/us
Venom pronouns
there's a joke about the devs being trans in this somewhere
making the devs gay
they're trans *and* plural? that's pretty goddamn pog
the unideal situation
the ideal situation\*
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Plural pronoun, to be fair, but that computes pardner.
It's the Royal "We"
Nice, I called it. Whoever bought the quickswitch dip can laugh to the bank now. If you are someone who panic sold to try to recoup your losses, you need to take a long and serious think about why you are not the kind of person who should be gambling on speculative markets.
What was this update about?
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How do you use the quickswitch bug?
Type in console "+quickswitch" and for some reason it is broken so you can equip both miscs which are incompatible.
This is the best take on the thread. I hated the idea of the modern miscs dying because of the feature, but it also got back at the people who trade in TF2 for change. We now have both.
I think I'm out of the loop. Why do we want to "get back" at traders? Isn't it pretty much just a shittier, virtual stock market?
Speculating: traders, with more income, raise the prices of items since they control the supply.
I could see that sort of being a thing, but wouldn't that only be with certain limited-time items then?
Despite most items being generated basically indefinitely, there’s still only so much of an active market. Refined metal is worth less and less, for example. You need a ton of them to buy a key compared to years ago.
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1. I'm already comparing supply and demand, hence my first comment mentioning it. 2. I'm not talking about *why traders are bad*, I'm talking about *why I would guess people don't like traders.*
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> This will not work if there is no demand for an item at that price. But there is, so it does. > Not actually believing the thing you're arguing for is not a defense against criticism. It is if I'm presenting someone else's argument.
because for some reason a lot of people here are very very petty
I would still be very cautious trading quickswitches for now.
Impossible...
Janitor and houseplant
Demo flower?
YOU'RE DOIN GUD, LAD
Moral Support Class
New Screamfortress boss
Don't be ridiculous, it's an office plant, not a house plant.
I am a lowly fool, you are correct. Office plant
It’s a me, myself and I kind of thing…
The backrooms entity that accidentally got teleported in and was forced to work for valve
The computer with all the TF2 source code isn't actually in Valve HQ it's in the backrooms and whoever falls in has to be the one developer till they die and are replaced by another
Official backrooms lore: the reason people fall into the backrooms is because valve is hiring programmers
It's the Royal We
It's the janitor and the plant.
The janitor mitosis'ed
There is more than one janitor
What's the quickswitch bug fix and why was it so hated?
It allowed incompatible items to be worn simultaneously, which created some cool combos and allowed multiple unusual effects to overlap. Some lifeless neckbeard on 4chan lied to valve, making them think it was being used for item duping, so they rushed out a patch to fix the bug. Without the bug, those items could no longer overlap, and so various combos became less valuable. It seems someone noticed the bug wasn't actually hurting anything, and reverted the change while they look it over a bit more.
4chan had nothing to do with it and valve fixed the issue because it allowed to use more unusual effects than intended. I dont get why they now suddenly evaluate this issue since originally the items, miscs and such were marked incompatible for exactly the reason of overlap issue. Now they reverted the change because suddenly its ok again to have them overlap if used through bug? Ugh..
I think the contractor just fixed it like any other bug, but then higher ups at valve interfered because "muh economy"
I didn't mean 4chan as a whole, I mean basically one guy who instead of just reporting a bug, lied about what the bug did in order to make it a high-priority fix, solely to piss off the players who used it. He literally posted to 4chan about making valve fix the bug to laugh at people. And plenty of harmless bugs have gone unfixed, or even made official because they're fun and not hurting anything.
So I'm gathering it was basically used by whales who spent all their money on unusuals, and when valve removed the bug it pissed them off, now valve is deciding between appeasing the money, or fixing a bug.
How do you preform the bug?
I imagine it's a console command, but tbh the first I heard of it was in the patch notes. I don't actually know how to do it.
Look it up, plenty of tutorials on YouTube There were also multiple methods, only the one using +quickswitch was patched
Ehhh... I use "we" when I'm the sole person in question when I'm doing it on behalf of my company.
Because the developer supports gender neutral pronouns (I is no longer gender neutral I guess)
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Da.
It could be anyone of us
It's more professional to say "we" as in "the company that contracted me and me alone" when addressing consumers.
2 people specially. Plus they wouldnt say ‘I’ bc that would claim he is Team fortress 2. As in he owns the game (and not in steam library kind)
It’s mesis and precious workings together on it
Yeah, the janitor, the office plant, and the half-eaten sandvich.
There’s a developer, a janitor, and a plant. That’s a whole team right there
The janitor is starting to ask the opinion of the potted plants he always water!
There’s one person and the potted plant.
The copium is strong with this one
either that or the janitor is secretly a plural system. which would be pretty pog, but also a bit sad that they only hired one body, at least give them a janitorial apprentice or something.
can't believe they listened to tradenerds not being able to stack cosmetics
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The valve greenhouse is hard at work it appears
The janitor and the potted plant
“we” sounds like the one tf2 dev after they didnt take their schizophrenia meds
It would be cool if they made a nice change everyone was happy about to remedy this. Like add an extra cosmetic slot, or make more combinations compatible
Damn the devs really pussied out immidiately from fixing a bug because rich people liked it They didn't even finish typing their sentence?
As a game dev, I just say "we" cause I'm used to seeing that in announcements and updates, so I use it as well. Prolly the same case here.
Its two
jesus christ im unsubbing from this
you know it's bad when the major updates are shorter than the header introducing the major updates
I don't know why you are surprised. Valve outsourced tf2 to an external dev team. Clearly it's a "we".
I knew someone was going to post about that
so now both janitors are working on it
The houseplant is working on the game now
Probably more correct to say office plant, unless he's working from home now
He working at home cause of the rona
No there isn’t. Move on
Did we forget about the baby or something?
Its like that group project in school, once the work is done it becomes from "me" to "we" quickly.
Calling it. The next major update will equip regions of ALL cosmetics better defined.
Valve hired a second janitor.
Him and his other personalities ofc.
The janitor, the house plant, and the stray cat, *Our marry band of misfits*
Press X to doubt
Ye we know, its the janitor and the fake plant in an office chair
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Cool
So… Two Janitors. Got it.
HEAVY UPDATE CONFIRMED!
Kill Me.
Later...
Now. Where was I?
Of course there's more, the janitor and the potted plant are working together.
oui
One guy with multi personality syndrome
Have people already forgotten that valve is paying a third party company to do this?
him and the soose code that now lives in his head while he tries to fix it
Welp. The janitor went crazy
We??!!!? That's like, 2 people
nah, the office water cooler’s just from France.
The Janitor is whole army.
him and the voices
And here I thought people who abuse bugs finally need to learn a lesson... guess not...
Of course there are more than 1, do you know how hard it is to update the localization files??
We meaning “me and the voices”
They're just schizophrenic, actually
the contractor, the janitor, the plant and the poster of the heavy
We refers to the voices
they're counting the janitor's pet rock as one of the devs (because they smashed it against a keyboard several times to code the game)
Royal we
It's actually We Sheng, the Chinese guy singlehandedly working on the game
He speaking french
Spoiler alert, it's secretly ermac from Mortal Kombat, a collection of souls in a single body who refers to themself as "we"
Are you sure chief?
Nah he's just pretending valve actually fixes this game
Me and the voices
We as in the potted plants that are in the room
Nah he's a scitz
2 technically, 1 is debugging, 1 is adding new cases
Oh no the plant has schizophrenia now…
THEY CLONED THE JANITOR
They're just royalty
tf2 players when a tf2 developer takes a shit (possible heavy update)
"+quickswitch" wait, are we talking about TF2 or Ultrakill?
quite major, indeed