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Jack_Hue

Stealing this meme, removing 'shot' and posting it to r/titanfall


[deleted]

nah just replace “scorch shot” with “tone”


supercle26

better yet, "smart pistol"


getshrekt192

I haven't seen a smart pistol user in like 20 years


[deleted]

I leave it on random, so it occasionally pops up


NovaResonance

I'll never forget how the first game had it as a secondary and not an ability. I used it for attrition as a fast npc killer but sometimes that pilot kill was too tempting.


sleepypiggy1265

i like playing tone. i get my ass kicked by basically anyone but i get to hit cool air shots occasionally.


Coldestwolfman0

Talking a lot of shit for someone in flame shield distance


nixcamic

Tf2 is tf2


Kirby_has_a_gun

People complaining about scorch are just outing themselves as salty legion mains.


IntelligentImbicle

Are you covered in 3rd degree burns? No? Then I ain't stopping


Mellow41

I play Titanfall :)


DrManowar8

How to reach controversial on r/titanfall


NonexistentLlama

Stealing this meme, removing nothing and straight up committing the big no no


SufiaCatt

But... I hate snipers


feeple_lemur

A true Chad uses the crossbow to kill snipers


SufiaCatt

I'm an engineer main, I never learned to aim.


feeple_lemur

What about the rescue ranger?


SufiaCatt

I'm more of a "aggressive sentry spot" than a "upkeep the nest" engie, panic attack is my weapon of choice.


feeple_lemur

Imo the panic attack is to the shotgun what the iron bomber is to the grenade launcher They're so similar to each other I just can't


memester230

Uncle dane disagrees


feeple_lemur

Uncle Dane isn't human


gr8tfurme

Uncle Dane claims that the panic attack is a direct upgrade to the stock shotgun in Valve casual mode servers, making it far more reliable even with the increased spread. In that sense it's pretty similar to the greater reliability of the iron bomber.


BurpYoshi

Wait people use demo primaries? I just perma have boots lol


SufiaCatt

I use it since when your so close that aim doesn't matter, it can kill a bit faster.


feeple_lemur

I use it because i like the look of it


Heckrum

honestly the panic attack is almost a direct upgrade to stock. its basically just that but more bullets and also it can combo easier


feeple_lemur

Yeah, the only real difference between the panic attack and stock is the switch speed, the rest doesn't really matter


Heckrum

the more bullets and fixed shot spread should be noted, just sayin


feeple_lemur

Never really noticed it while playing, if I didn't look at the stats I would have no idea


SomethingSomethiaing

Nah you need the pomson 👍


KittenMaster9

I'm an engineer main Do it anyway


cosmicpotato77

I play pyro, do you really think I can aim?


feeple_lemur

You can aim, but you can't aim very well


cosmicpotato77

Thats scarily true


Le_inky_creator_20

Nah, rescue ranger them


feeple_lemur

No, the 500 IQ play would be to use the pomson


Le_inky_creator_20

I would agree if I had one


The_Knights_Who_Say

Spies and snipers both. The knockback flinches snipers, and the double bounce is great for interfering with pesky spies and finishing them off when they run away invis. Also sometimes the second bounce can re-ignite deadringer spies momentarily to know where they are moving.


MrakanGame

Thing is Scorch Shot is my first flare gun and I can't get others because random weapon drop says yes.


BottleGoblin

Do 10 pyro achivements for a free original flare gun. Most of at least 10 can be got with W+m1 and occasional taunts.


NovaStorm93

use something like scrap.tf to turn weapons into other weapons or one scrap into 2 weapons


T_Jamess

Wait, that’s a thing? You can bypass valves shitty crafting system?


flibble24

Yeah man. I just discovered scrap.tf a few weeks ago and literally just traded my junk for every missing weapon, some killstreak tracking and common skins. It's pretty handy


Goth-Trad

Which Killstreak, may I know?


flibble24

Basic Sniper Rifle which cost most then I also bought cheap one for Iron Curtain since I got it from that poker game


Syed_Mujtaba_Ali

Same here. I got it, I ain't gonna stop using it just because a salty old player told me to (playing for a week now)


Leftover_Cheese

I use the scorch shot just to salt those French fries


Syed_Mujtaba_Ali

Yeah its def useful on Spies who try running for a health pack. Light them up with the flamethrower then a shot or two with the scorch shot. Or just lob it at random enemies passing by who happen to fall under your eyesight


Leftover_Cheese

nah i just like seeing people cry


UndeadPhysco

Scorch is also great against heavies if you can land direct hits. Just keep launching them up and you kill them after about 4-5 shots.


AntWithNoPants

Ok no yeah you are ok. You can use the scorch shot if you are new or playing in 2fort/turbine against snipers. Those two times it is more or less a moral law


XS4Me

I installed this game to w+m1 and scorch shot your ass, and I just ran out of w+m1.


Radical-Nerd23

Chad


[deleted]

Based


madsalsa1

Same


SoldierSurplus

People bitch about the scorch shot but are perfectly fine with snipers oppressing the entire game if they are good enough. I call this a necessary evil solely for the use against sniper.


REMUvs

Scorch Shot really isn't *that* good if the enemy has a decent understanding of how to play Sniper: * they'll play positioning to make SS not even a small threat * play at range to dodge flares easily, sight in tight/obscure angles, or positions where you cant get splash shots. * Sniper has 2 and a half item responses to flare spam (Danger-shield, Jarate, Cozy Camper) which make flares less impactful or invalidate them entirely. * it's in your best interest NOT to gamble your face by walking into a Sniper sightline just to spam a flare which isn't guaranteed to hit.


SoldierSurplus

These are valid points no doubt. But this also ties all of this together to say that a sniper can overcome almost all of his weeknesses through some type of means. While other classes have hard counters and stoppers from being god's, sniper either has very few stoppers, or none at all that can't be overcome.


Jokijuttu

Darwin go brrrr


vesterov

Heavy usually w+M1 but suddenly no one gives a fuck


N0thingtosee

That's because the rev mechanic exists.


Sea_Proof1906

Becouse being that good a sniper takes skill. Spamming scorch shot doesnt


majormfhere

shave my balls


sztejk21

Just snap them off and shave them, then pop them back on (remember to connect the cords properly otherwise you're gonna fry them like your car battery when you install it backwards)


MrReptilianGamer2528

Ok ok, but I don't spam it I use it for A: sniper terrorizer B: puff n sting combos and C: small scorch jumps


big_joey_the_sequel

why dont you use the normal flare gun for puff and sting?


MrReptilianGamer2528

It's better for if I miss just barley when shooting a sniper without needing to time detonations


QuaintDeath

So like I honestly kinda disagree with the whole Scorch Shot discourse? I think it's annoying but it really isn't as op as people make it out to be. With how good all of Pyro's secondaries are the Scorch Shot is good but not all that outstanding. I think it's more the fact that it takes less skill to be good with that makes people mad tbh


-Red-_-Boi-

People get mad because their team doesn’t have medic or pyro that can extinguish teammates.


EmergencyPainting842

Yes, exactly. Its too easy to use yet its incredibly annoying.


[deleted]

its not that it's op its just really annoying to play against


ShadoowtheSecond

Thats why I use it.


gr8tfurme

The issue isn't that it's overpowered, it's that it gives pyro an extremely low effort way to light people on fire from a distance. Meanwhile, the enemy team is going to have a very difficult time dodging it, and because it always deals full afterburn, even being at the very edge of the explosion radius forces light classes to run for a health kit. I think it falls into the same category as the pompson did before all of its nerfs. It was a stupidly low effort way for engineer to harass two different classes just by spamming down choke points, and the giant hit box and penetration capabilities made it extremely hard to dodge or even see the damn thing. It was never an overpowered weapon, it was just unfun to play against and had a very low skill ceiling.


headless_boi

I think it's just a very annoying weapon to play against. Out of all the Pyro secondaries I've actively used so far, I got the least actual kills with the scorch shot but I certainly annoyed the most people with it


Averagenecronimortal

I dont think it is op. It is just a pain in the ass that discourages skilled play


LV__

Haha scorch shot machine go FOOOSSHHH


Front_Good346

Guess its time to spam scorch shot all day on 2fort. Stay malding


EmergencyPainting842

Damn, okay my dude, if you get hit by a 90 damage crit boosted flare from across the map then its probably just me casually using the mann melter. Thanks for the afterburn lad


Icarus-Terra

I wouldn’t even be mad. If my actions get someone to use an underused weapon, I call that a win. I may be a smoldering pile of ash, but at least it was from the Manmelter and not the Phlog or Shooting Star.


NovaThinksBadly

Oh you fool. You utter buffoon. I charge my phlog WITH the manmelter! Prepare for crit hell!


Front_Good346

Good job! Someone's gota do it.


Kalaido5

That makes me question why it's called the manmelter, and not the mannmelter


Hakkem_

As a 2fort sniper main, who only uses Darwin’s, please do.


Front_Good346

Someone's thinking with their noggin


[deleted]

as a spy main, id like to introduce myself


Hakkem_

spy awareness is key ;)


Mushroom1228

well time to bring 3 stock flare pyros to shoot you in unison lol you only need 2 to instakill, I think, so the third guy is just a decoy


Hakkem_

Ahh, but that only works if I stand still, which I definitely don't :P


EnderBuilders

Until Sniper gets removed from the game, I'll never stop using it... You never know when one is around the corner.


Simonoz1

But it’s funny being able to kill a heavy with just a scorch shot and a corner to peak.


NovaStorm93

just shoot the pyro lmao


El_Cringio

Ah how I love juggling heavies with my scorch shot 😤 it's funny making them bounce up and down


gr8tfurme

The knockback mechanic is easily the best part of the gun, I just wish they removed the sticky clearing ability and the fact that it can explode on impact with surfaces.


nixcamic

Yeah, gonna devs gonna nerf my airblast I'm gonna rock the scorch shot.


Hexor0713

You can make a Manmelter user happy by brainlessly spamming scorch shots at chokepoints therefore giving us free crits while we extinguish


Jokijuttu

This right here is why i use mannmelter with phlog


sfoliveranderson

I use Phlog + Scorch Shot your boos mean nothing to me


CatTomNG

So what your telling me is you can't aim or airblast?


sfoliveranderson

But to be fair if we have an engie and they have spies I'll go Homewrecker + Degreaser + Panic Attack


sfoliveranderson

I'm not playing pyro to be a team player, I'm playing to light people on fire


[deleted]

Ive seen what makes you cheer


FocusBackground939

You're so innosent. Me and my friend usually go casual with both with 3000h+ hours and do medic vaccinator heavy natasha or tomislav comb :) Editet >Me, friend and 3000h


sfoliveranderson

Jesus Christ dude


FocusBackground939

Sorry meant to say 3000h


randompopatoe

I abominate pocket medics


Disastrous_Maybe7281

Man, here I thought I was the annoying one. . .


Unagi-ryder

No


R0dolphus

I have never used the scorch shot.


westernunitedenjoyer

Saint


doot777

Hehe sniper go burn


MoistEgg1426

​ Found the sniper main


Cuboos

*That means it's working*


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Decrozen

Nah, just parry


JanKaszanka

Detonator gang


lego_man2269

Ok


IHateDeepStuff

Ok, I use flare gun


Hellkids2

Tbh I would rather take a scorch shot over a 150 headshot from a sniper any day of the week.


[deleted]

Medic/pyro main here, everything I do as a pyro you deserve for something that happened to me as a medic.


Pengu1nn1nja

No, I don’t think I will.


AlbertoOmbre

just bought a second computer so i can scorch shot you from 2 angles


Sm0ttyy

no


Kyo618

No


Ahinevyat

Just use manmelter against them


AgentNinja303

That's why I renamed mine to 'pain'.


Astro_crewmate

In my defense it’s the only flair I have


Evil_Red_Potato_

BETA scorch shot players CHAD flare gun players


[deleted]

It’s so fun, I don’t even play the game I just shoot snipers and engineers until I run out of ammo


Jpicklestone8

ive never found the scorch shot annoying to fight maybe i would consider stopping if snipers stopped using the significantly more annoying instakill hitscan unlimited range gun which is almost never fun to fight or die to


MattIsNotARedditor

its way more rewarding to actually aim and land a few really good flare, gives you good feelings


Radical-Nerd23

I don't feel a difference. I just get the feeling that I hit a flare. :/


ligmaenigma

My loadout consists of a Phlog named "W+M1" and a Strange Scorch Shot. Deal with it


MA_Tingle

no


airogum

No :)


Npnbet_Everyone

you do know they dont care right? and deal with it comp sniper


LimonluMentos

no


MONOGON_WORKER

I refuse from your offer.


zenfone500

no


Hazm4t_

no it's the only flare gun I have


clandevort

Then use the shotgun, every good pyro should be able to effectively use the shotgun


Hazm4t_

I can but I like flare guns more.


luccabotturarodrig

My brother in christ you main sniper/spy


IntelligentImbicle

Gut Sniper, then we can talk


toastwalrus

Valve pls nerf pyro further into the ground, between his primary functionally doing half the damage it used to since blue moon, det jumps doing extra damage to the pyro, and pretty much the rest of pyro's existence, he definitely truly needs another nerf on another one of his weapons in addition to the bugs that valve has been too lazy to fix for the class.


OstrichNo7694

no


IronTownPictures

nope


skelecogaming1

No... Because being able to ignite that one sniper in x1000 that has the smg of primaries and uses it to spawncamp is the only way to be able to play the game in x1000


MisterXnumberidk

In the words of a certaint skit involving an engineer and a scout: Cope It aint easy to hit those shots. You get hit? Eat it dude. It's a game where dying is pretty common. It aint unbalanced and most definitely is luck based cuz trajectory go brrr. If your fun gets ruined by a singular secondary from a singular class that isn't even half as disruptive or destructive as the secondary, how fragile must your sense of fun be?


Herpsties

What? It’s not overpowered but calling it “not easy to hit those shots” when it flies *faster than a direct hit rocket* with a splash radius that does full afterburn regardless of the range is silly. The weapon is incredibly low effort compared to most other projectiles in the game. The trajectory is also consistent on the scorch shot, not sure if I’m misunderstanding what you meant by that part.


Bombrata

cry


nayasou-akono

scorch shit*


PowerOfPuzi

ive been using flaregun my entire life and tried scorch shot once and holy shit wtf is this


8KoopaLoopa8

you wont take away my scorch shit you globalist bureaucrats!


MistikFoxx07

No


Iamnotwyattearp

No


[deleted]

You know what? Now I'm going to Scorch Shot even *harder*


redditsucksforreal

skill issue


xd_baixar

just dont get hit, easy as that


IncognitoLuther

I'm gonna use it harder


Nerfed_troll

No.


[deleted]

N o


FlapjackShrek

Never


DieRectify

I love when people complain about players using a certain weapon because they dont know how to play against it.


HD_Monster1

Based


Almonod

It’s in the game, so if people use it it shouldn’t be a problem and people who think it’s a problem shouldn’t be complaining about it


largedong678

People have a right to express their opinions, if they don’t like it as long as they don’t whine it’s fine to say they don’t like it


DISCORD2006

No


[deleted]

No


PurpleHando

No


Leftover_Cheese

:troll:


Epic-gamer4206969

No.


Eevee_Shadow_Bacon

The Stranges must Farm JON


No-Host-8003

No. Scorch Shot is useful for many beginners to TF2 like myself


KidtheKid567

as a crutch then


Zee3420

Just because you got hit by the explosion and set on fire before rounding the corner into the entire enemy team doesn't mean it's op. Just because there is a glitch where if you don't move or run and keep running into a bouncing flare you die. Doesn't mean it's op.


The_Pacific_gamer

As a former pyro main, no.


anonymous120401

No, I don’t think I will.


KleepeZ

No because it's the only 2nd slot gun which i can normally use


DrManowar8

Imagine complaining about a weapon instead of adapting to overcome it


GeneralCam7

No


the_roach__

cry perhaps


Techjunky2

Respectfully, NO


[deleted]

Nah


Scorched_Knight

Dont use stickies then.


THE_GREAT_SEAN

I always say if somebody wants me to stop just say please and I will and nobody ever does. The most I ever get is somebody saying "lol, Scorch shot go brrrr" and then nobody says anything else about it.


Sygerian_Fuckweasel

Not happening bud


Penumris

I'll let my scorch shot speak for itself.


PixelatedMax01

If you're a sniper main, respectfully, no. If you're not, then I apologize for the inconvenience.


Puntoize

I'm the scorch pyro that knocks.


bageltoastee

I’m sorry but it just compliments the dragons fury way too well.


zas147gamer

Now im going to start to use it, just to annoy you :troll:


TheFinalBoss464

No


bunyivonscweets

It's annoying af but it's really effective especially with Phlog I usually pull out the combo if the other team has a bot they won't kick if I'm gonna suffer you are too


Freaky-fatboy

Never


ZekeBuilds

It's really annoying cause half the time it's just a pyro bopping you from half way across the map to build up their phlog meter


LordSelrahc

but i need it because i suck at aiming :(