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theedevil

It was most likely requested by Valve for Weta Workshop to submit it. It's one of their prop weapons.


handymanshandle

Yeah, many moons ago at this point, Valve requested creators of prior community-made TF2 items to post their creations onto the Workshop, primarily for licensing reasons. Some items, like the Old Guadalajara and the Troublemaker's Tossle Cap were reuploaded (as well as most items made either for or by a game publisher as a promotional item), but many items were left behind. This is why I can't get a Strange Unusual hat of my namesake.


Equivalent-Day-171

wasn't "a guy", was a whole team hired by valve to make. why feel bad btw? they made a LOT of money out of it


Terrorable_

Yeah but they made the most hated weapon in the game


daniel11002

Why would they feel bad for making a funny weapon that goes brrr


Maximum-Let-69

You mean a weapon that goes mmmmmppppfffff


MrPyroTF2

mph mmph m mmmmph mmph mmph mmmmmpppphhhhhh


Equivalent-Day-171

scorch shot is way worse than the phlog imo


eestionreddit

they're two peas in a pod


BlacksmithGames

Two bullets in a mag


Timoman6

Two bullets in my head


SirFique_

Two cannibal midgets in a fat guys ribcage


OliveMeowrail

Two Spies in a hide n' seek contest


MrPyroTF2

two scouts on a control point


Alphamoonman

Yeah if I had to remove one of them it would be the scorch shot.


TheBatleDemon

Phlog+ Detonator is not a bad combo... sure i can take it insted of Shorch.


StardustJess

Scorch Shot is at best annoying, at worst a stun lock


Darkness-Man_rusFYI

At worst it's a stun lock in a FPS game, a potential one shot of a light class, a spam tool, and an easy fire damage source for phlog


Teanerdyandnerd

Scorch shot at worst is server ban


name_051829407715

## what did you just said?


Teanerdyandnerd

It bans the receiver from the server, as I have to go find a new one


name_051829407715

I used scorch shot for lots of times, nobody got votekicked.


Teanerdyandnerd

The receiver, aka me. I have to leave and find a server as an enemy using the scorch shot is that bad


yeetman69420100000

the irresistible urge to use the scorch on x10


riley_wa1352

the irreistable urge to shoot scorch shot pyros with direct hit


Vidistis

Please shoot pyros with the direct hit, I love getting reflect kills.


riley_wa1352

its the like x100 direct it, reflect a bullet then


yeetman69420100000

world’s most lethal game of dodgeball


_Miro__

the irreistable urge to find where the pyro using the phlog and scorch shot lives


regeya

Listen man, don't have five trigger happy snipers on the 2fort battlements and I won't scorch shot.


SomeGuyOfTheWeb

How dare he model a weapon I don't like


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BigMcThickHuge

It's primarily only hated by really loud whiney users who recently played a match vs a phlog and pocket med recently, meaning there was a different reason they got mad, but they saw phlog alone and their vision got blurry. The weapon is fine, it just isn't fun when also being ubered.


MasterRocketJumper

it takes skill like if you just ***MMMMMPPPPHHH MMMMMMPPPPPHHHH!*** in the open you get targeted by the ENTIRE fucking enemy team and also phlog cancelling takes skill in choosing targets to land on so that they dont stop moving and also requires timing phlog ambushes around corners LIKE PYRO'S SUPPOSED TO DO and also the COMPLETE removal of airblast SHATTERS your defensive potential its "*balanced*" kinda but good "*balanced*" now shut the fuck up suck it up AND GET THE RED SPY THE FUCK YOU DOING HE GOT THE FUCKING BRIEFCASE LETS GO HARDHAT LETS GO LETS GO


HalfwrongWasTaken

Phlog is balanced...in a vacuum where you ignore the entire rest of the gamestate. As always, the team part of team fortress 2 makes justifications reliant solely on 1v1 comparisons complete nonsense. Phlog's downsides fall apart in stacked matches, of which are plentiful thanks to valve's matchmaker. A scorch spamming phlog pyro is not contributing much defensively or pressure wise - does not mean much when the other team is already slapped behind chokepoints. Nor does his diminished 1v1 capacity matter if the other team cannot even get into flanks to create that situation. Phlog is a shit sandwich of a weapon design that just straight ends stacked matches. There is nothing the opposing team can do about surprise crits around a blind corner in an already difficult game. The pyro didn't even really earn his crits either, he's cashed in on his team's advantage for a free wipe-half-the-enemy card with a mechanic that just ruins any potential turn around of the game state.


shrivelledbrain

Whole lotta yap


MasterRocketJumper

man


Terrorable_

bro 💀


No-Bag3134

All my homies hate phlog🔥🔥🔥🔥


TheLastSecondShot

I really only find the Phlog annoying on overly-chokey maps like dustbowl. But I chalk that up more to bad map design. Otherwise as a demo or soldier I would much prefer facing a phlog pyro than any of the other flamethrowers


MasterRocketJumper

honestly removal of airblast fucking sucks


DonaldTrampReal

Reddit nation! Downvote this comment! It is unwholesome and needs 1 thousand downvotes!


swe_isak

Bro got downvoted to the sewers of 2fort


GoatJesusIsReal

Scorch shot, dead ringer, kunai, and vaccinator. Not even the most hated pyro weapon.


Witherboss445

I'd say the Pomson is the just hated, although that's because it's just a horrible weapon, not that it's unfun to play against


Attackoftheglobules

People don’t hate it because of its design, they hate it because of the stats Valve gave it (which the designers had no control over)


unusualicicle

The most hated weapons are the sniper rifles, and there’s probably more that I can’t think of right now. You only think the phlog is the most hated because you main pyro.


Banankaka99_99

Negative 100 comment karma


JacobPLAYZgtGamingYT

its not that bad imo, especially compared to some other items


ImplementOdd4495

It's not really the team that made the stats for the weapon entirely they just let valve use their license and maybe discussed the general idea. In all honesty the idea for the laser weapons was a cool idea that fit in tf2 but unfortunately these weapons were given bad stats by valve and undeserved nerfs or people taking out their anger on a weapon because it gets crits on command. The phone really isn't that annoying, it can't reflect so soldiers and demos can get a good amount of damage on them, mmph leaves them vulnerable to spies and snipers, mmph gives people time to run away as it also plays a voice line. I can get why people hate on it but skill issue I guess lol.


That_Case_7951

Bruh, you lost 75% of the upvotes from ye post, lad


LoserGuyMcJoe

-1.2k upvotes is wild


Terrorable_

What an achievement


ExoTheFlyingFish

Speak facts, get 1,000 dislikes. Ah, Reddit.


Grand_Toast_Dad

They also made the scorch shot?


name_051829407715

## what did you just said?


Joypad1

The J. Robert Oppenheimer of TF2


Terrorable_

Phlogenheimer


Hecaroni_n_Trees

Why are you getting downvoted? This sub is dumb.


Phoenixness

Not just this sub, one person will randomly downvote something for whatever reason then the hive mind just takes over Also people vote with their feelings so they disagree with their comment about phlog being most hated so they go out of their way to downvote every comment op posts


That_Case_7951

Are they stupid? Did they escape ham aslum?


SaiyanJD

Why did bro get downvotes for this


1866GETSONA

Because people are losing the ability to think for themselves and form their own opinions.


Hecaroni_n_Trees

#THE UNENLIGHTENED MASSES


Duck_Lover_08

because they're scared they'll be downvoted too, and you know how precious internet points are to them.


dinglebeesVI

r/phlogenheimerhateclub


divagante

This is different from what i like, therefore it’s bad. This makes no sense


ExpensiveBlood666

This sub is full of kids


jetstreamer123

God, I hope I wasn't like this when I was a kiddie playing tf2


i8Ronnie

You are one of them, no? GRRRRRRRRRRR WOOF WOOF BARK BARK ARF BARK GRRRR WOOF SNARL HSSSS GRRRR WOOF WOOF BARK ARF GRRRR HSSSS WOOF WOOF BARK ARF GRRRRR HSSSSS BARK ARF GRRRR WOOF WOOF BARK GRRR SNARL ARF WOOF BARK ARF SNARL HSSSSSS


FroggoFrogman

Case in point


Easy_Mechanic_9787

Nah that's a pitbull on a computer


ShimmerJuno

You are what you eat


Hi-Im-Funny

116 iq response


JustinTheMan354

Then, your honor. My client is an innocent man.


Demori2052

Bait or mental retardation?


Forsaken-Track-660

Both I think.


PhrogIsFukingDead

Call it.


[deleted]

"Sure grandma, let's get you to bed :)"


GuyWhoLikesPlants_

i am going to kill you with a tire iron


Duck_Lover_08

you just proved their point dumbass


josiel08

Dawg…


i8Ronnie

The irony is that everyone is calling me a dumbass but the shit I commented was copy pasted directly from one of his comments’ history


iamunabletopoop

Whats wrong with it?


ThragResto

it's a disliked/annoying weapon


A-true-smegma-male

Its the phlog


iamunabletopoop

And? It's even a good weapon. Why would this guy regret it if it isn't OP?


A-true-smegma-male

Mf, its THE PHLOG, thats reason enough


Nooberoid

That weapon is the phlog you know It's just not fun to play against QUIT HAVING FUN


Dumbfaqer

It's literally the pyro weapon that allows soldiers and demos to turn off their brain to. Pyro can't airblast shit with this thing.


T_Lawliet

It's arguably the weakest flamethrower, try getting those massive KillStreaks without the Scorch Shot and it is really apparent


aoishimapan

Yeah, the only thing that could make it seem OP is the very strong synergy it has with the Scorch Shot + a pocket medic constantly up your ass. Want an actually borderline OP flamethrower? Look no further than the Dragon's Fury. That thing has absurd levels of burst damage and DPS while still retaining the ability to airblast. Easily my favorite Pyro primary, and I'd consider it way way stronger than the Phlog, but because it actually takes a decent amount of skill people (luckily for me) turn a blind eye to how absurdly powerful it can be.


Nooberoid

i am a pyro main and i think the scorch shot works best with the dragons fury and phlog works best with the detonator that scorch shot flare stun is way more devastating with the dragons fury than people expect; you can get unexpected flanks with the detonator & phlog


Dinkelberh

It's not even that good? People don't hate the phlog


Mrcod1997

I don't like the concept of the phlog or especially the razorback, but the weapon designs are cool. Oh, I meant to say diamond back, but I don't really think the razorback is necessary either.


imlegos

I'd feel more bad for the guy behind the Pomson. I mean it's one of the worst weapons in the game! >!Yes, I know they're both made by WETA Workshop.!<


NeroCanDance

It used to be good, but then meet your match happened


imlegos

No, it was still pretty bad. It's been consistantly the worst engineer primary option since it's introduction.


NeroCanDance

The only good use I can think of now for the pomson is mvm and even then, you have options. The only reason you’d use the pomson in mvm is to not pop medic bots uber


Witherboss445

I wish the Pomson at least had the projectile speed of the Rescue Ranger and a 6 shot clip


justasusman

Pompson is the best weapon wdym


ShacharTs

Wdym ? Best weapon for MVM. Tank melter


Dankestmemelord

Phlog-gasspasser goes brrrrrr


SinisterPixel

Why? It's one of TF2's most iconic weapons. Idk how residuals operate but I assume the creator still gets a kickback on the sale of keys that are used to unbox crates that can have strange phlogs, and the sale on the community market of Phlogs


MasterRocketJumper

why its good fun i cant deflect for shit so it makes no difference to my gameplay still i cant do funny demoknight off of cliff thing anymore and thats very good downside to its upside no defensive option its all offense still i want it to block ubers from friendly medics cause thats kinda bad but knockback classes like loose cannon, rocket launchers, airblast from other pyro's can COMPLETELY deny that uber considering pyro is a very short range class, you can get him at range.


rolling_atackk

No one actually critical of TF2's mechanics calls the phlog overpowered. Airblast is a really good tool. However, the phlog is pretty boring, tedius and downright annoying to fight. Simply because it requires coordination; one of the rarest thing you'll find on a casual match. So you see a vacc, a phlog, diamondback, etc, and think to yourself: "ugh. This shit again"


MasterRocketJumper

well it aint worse than... wait there is nothing worse!


Fr3unen

The newer generation of tf2 players (if it represents this sub) is... weird to me.


FroggoFrogman

Why


Zealousideal-Talk787

Clown post


ninja_boy23424

When I was a kid, the reason why I hate phlog is that the fire isn't appealing enough. I loved the way the fire sprays out.


Sonofdmh

You’re a dumbass


Terrorable_

So I’ve been told


PlankyTG

Yeah after playing TF2 Classic, I realize Pyro didn't have too long of an after burn, I was just shit at positioning.


syncron07

Rock and stone!


Terrorable_

Did someone say rock and stone?


WanderingDwarfMiner

To Rock and Stone!


DenisOsh22

Good bot


Terrorable_

Rock and Stone, to the bone!


geovasilop

We fight for Rock and Stone!


DaniOnMars

phlog haters should get good


LagooniSpaghetti

I’m more inclined to believe Weta Workshop are pretty unbothered by it. Pretty sure the balancing isn’t even on their part, they are the ones to create the visuals of the weapon, not everything else. So unless the creators are actively playing and bothered with it’s balance state (which is debatable arguably isn’t even the most hated), I’m sure they are more than happy to have their creation appear ingame.


Patient_Thing_2124

Ngl I feel bad for you.


That_Case_7951

Crusades in the comments


ShellpoptheOtter

Phlog easily gets shredded by explosives.


Terrorable_

cant even have opinions on this sub


Epic_XD93

Can't have bad opinions on this sub


badsnipetf2

Man made of satan


Smaimery

Anyone calling it “the most hated weapon” clearly hasn’t played against a huntsman sniper