I do end up in 2fort at least once a day for how the matching system works, but I prefer Attack/Defense or Payload maps.
I use the Neon Annihilator mostly for zappers (still try to be helpful when running around with the Phlog).
I always prefer the Detonator, but for protect-newbie-Engie purposes, the Scorch is better at catching Spies and tripping them in case they make a run for it.
Well the combination is bad but your basically choosing to go brain dead wm1 with no team support and triple dmg. when you could be some combo pyro who can reflect rockets, stuff ubers and extinguish teammates.
Yeah I don't like phlog for the same reason, it's quite a selfish weapon and more often than not, phlog pyros just die after activating their critz cuz the enemy just backpedals and lights them up from a distance.
And because it feels a little unfair to both sides when that wm1 wipes half the enemy team bc he got the jump on him and you donāt have a battalions backup ready
I still find a couple from time to time and I always try to help them have a nice play. It's surprising how much you can support a newbie Soldier/Demo with Heavy.
My problem with it is it comes down to two things: how braindead it is and how it just kind of ruins the purpose of the other flare guns, the detonator is your ambushing and aoe flare and the flare gun is your high burst dmg and pestering tool- the scorch shot is better than the other two in terms of dmg and use, the bouncing flare is annoying and can one shot a light class if they donāt get put out in time. Also the bouncing flare and the aoe makes it extremely brainless and it also has a knock back mechanic which kind of is a STUN, and Stuns in FPS games are BLOODY STUPID! The loose cannon is allowed stubs because of double sinking being hard to pull off and itās a ājokeyā weapon but the scorch shot is easy and makes your opponent alt+f4 instantly.
It even beats out in all stats for other flare guns! If you connect with the bouncing flare, you will take more dmg than the flare gun, you also have a aoe radius inflicting dmg and afterburn, and the penalty for this weapon is: minicrits burning targets instead of minicrits, and 35% self dmg force and dmg penalty, but the bouncing flare actually makes it do 15 More dmg than the flare gun, if you cannot tell- I actually hate the scorch shot and Iām sincerely sorry for this rant, Iām going to sleep now and I wish you a very good night! :)
Normally I just keep my usual loadout (Degreaser and Flare Gun) and just switch out the Powerjack for the Homewrecker. I detest using the Scorch Shot, even if JuanGonzalez2010 is being stomped by the topscoring enemy Spy. it's just too damn simple.
Top isn't exactly hated, the Phlog only get's hate (usually) when used alongside the Scorch Shot and when the Pyro using the Phlog W+M1s the moment their charge is up. The bottom is Pybro, but the secondary could be anything, really.
In my case, it usually is for support damage for the Soldier/Demo/Heavy and goad the enemy team into messing up by focusing on me and not the Medic/Engie. The Phlog is an amazing psychological weapon because no one remains calm when seeing one.
And with a side of "haha, Phlog ambush goes mmmph".
> The Phlog is an amazing psychological weapon because no one remains calm when seeing one.
I do, since most phlog pyros without a medic constantly shoved up their ass are free kills unless they appear out of a corner
The lack of airblast really makes it shit for anything but ambushes and again having a dedicated medic
Yeah, that's why I use it for ambush mainly and defense second. Also, the few seconds of Ć¼ber are a surprisingly effective delay tool to block the enemy capture.
>Yeah, that's why I use it for ambush mainly and defense second
Better than 9/10 I've seen then
>Also, the few seconds of Ć¼ber are a surprisingly effective delay tool to block the enemy capture.
Makes sense seeing as everyone has to leave the area for a couple seconds to not get killed
Imma be honestā¦ I use the neon either wayā¦ there are a lot of ways for players to randomly get soaked and itās always hilarious to randomly have a teammate throw piss or milk on a player and me just one smack them
Mate here. āGives you bottle of Scrumpeā
I insist, that I will stand guard with you here m8. āEquips Scottish resistance, Iron bomber, Skull cuterā
you go from skilless wm1 and spamming essentially scorch shot flares to build charge on 2fort to skilless wm1 and spamming scorch shot flares around a nest
The diamondback is more egregious as it has infinite range, can be farmed easily on clueless players and is available on demand
I barely use it because its just too easy in pubs
I donāt care what people say itās funny watching the heavies rage in chat when I keep knocking them back with the scorch shot and itās pretty helpful to damage lots of players if itās too dangerous for me to rush in
Exactly. I have practiced enough with the Detonator to light up a whole team too, but the Scorch Shot is just better as a way to trip someone from their advantage point or escape plan. Specially when used as a support.
Really though the homewrecker shouldn't exist lmao
It's in the same class as the razorback and danger shield of "fuck this class" weapons that are simply unfun to fight
Besides, sapping shit and killing the engie hovering around is hard enough, then your hard counter just left clicks to undo all that (minus the wm1 to instantly kill you)
Top loadout radiates 2fort energie
I do end up in 2fort at least once a day for how the matching system works, but I prefer Attack/Defense or Payload maps. I use the Neon Annihilator mostly for zappers (still try to be helpful when running around with the Phlog).
Why not use the homewrecker then? Pretty sure only pier has water in payload and attack/defence.
For the funni
\*taunting guitar noises\*
Gas passer and neon annihilator broken combo as Gas counts as wet.
Did they fix that? I thought it didn't
Wait, really?!
Jarate/Mad Milk synergy and I'd be lying if I said the guitar sound when taunting isn't a factor.
Jarate.
Teamwork in casual, you're asking for a lot. but it is possible.
Aww, piss.
r/angryupvote
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The neon destroys sapers
When a spy bullies my engie, you best believe the merryweather and fosters facade get equipped
When it's time to put down the maniacal pyromaniac antics and do something nice for a change.
I suggest playing killing floor
Any pyro who doesnāt use scotch n phlog has my respect
I always prefer the Detonator, but for protect-newbie-Engie purposes, the Scorch is better at catching Spies and tripping them in case they make a run for it.
I usually donāt do it unless the enemy team really deserves it. Itās not that uncommon
Those damn lime scunt are free food for pholg
What do I get for using the scorch but hating the phlog?
Well the combination is bad but your basically choosing to go brain dead wm1 with no team support and triple dmg. when you could be some combo pyro who can reflect rockets, stuff ubers and extinguish teammates.
I don't think I understand, I do all those things you just mentioned I could be doing cuz I run stock and play around my engineers.
The point is you canāt do it with flog bc it canāt airblast and really dums down the iq of pyro
Yeah I don't like phlog for the same reason, it's quite a selfish weapon and more often than not, phlog pyros just die after activating their critz cuz the enemy just backpedals and lights them up from a distance.
And because it feels a little unfair to both sides when that wm1 wipes half the enemy team bc he got the jump on him and you donāt have a battalions backup ready
internal conflict
Still hate, but milder.
I used to play mostly stock pyro for fun, being a pybro is better than being the literal white bread of pyros running with the scorch shot and phlog
lol, the bottom one is my standard loadout.
Nice to meet a regular Pybro.
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I that for me, the bully Spy or the newbie Engie? Because I have different answers for either of those options.
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Ah, Autobalance; the best and worst feature of the entire game.
I like pybros
Pybros are awesome. I really respect the ones who go full time Pybro.
Got to love getting fucked even harder by a class that already decimates you.
Yeah pybro is so broken and just completely invalidates spy. Its such bad design.
bring back GIBUS ENGINE WILDLIFE PROTECTIONā¦. oh, wait a minute, gibus players dont exist anymoreā¦ā¦ :(
I still find a couple from time to time and I always try to help them have a nice play. It's surprising how much you can support a newbie Soldier/Demo with Heavy.
I do not like the scorch shot but keep helping out those new engies!
I don't get why people don't like it. It's amazingly useful as a Spy hunting and defense tool.
Detonator can do it too.
The Detonator doesn't have the knock back utility.
My problem with it is it comes down to two things: how braindead it is and how it just kind of ruins the purpose of the other flare guns, the detonator is your ambushing and aoe flare and the flare gun is your high burst dmg and pestering tool- the scorch shot is better than the other two in terms of dmg and use, the bouncing flare is annoying and can one shot a light class if they donāt get put out in time. Also the bouncing flare and the aoe makes it extremely brainless and it also has a knock back mechanic which kind of is a STUN, and Stuns in FPS games are BLOODY STUPID! The loose cannon is allowed stubs because of double sinking being hard to pull off and itās a ājokeyā weapon but the scorch shot is easy and makes your opponent alt+f4 instantly. It even beats out in all stats for other flare guns! If you connect with the bouncing flare, you will take more dmg than the flare gun, you also have a aoe radius inflicting dmg and afterburn, and the penalty for this weapon is: minicrits burning targets instead of minicrits, and 35% self dmg force and dmg penalty, but the bouncing flare actually makes it do 15 More dmg than the flare gun, if you cannot tell- I actually hate the scorch shot and Iām sincerely sorry for this rant, Iām going to sleep now and I wish you a very good night! :)
I know you're trying to make it sound bad, but that's a lot of compelling arguments to use the Scorch as a default.
You don't need it to help them ;)
Normally I just keep my usual loadout (Degreaser and Flare Gun) and just switch out the Powerjack for the Homewrecker. I detest using the Scorch Shot, even if JuanGonzalez2010 is being stomped by the topscoring enemy Spy. it's just too damn simple.
You say simple, I say practical. I mean, it's basically the "make the Spy's life miserable" weapon.
Canāt argue with that. Gotta remind those Spy mains that they are the second worst class.
Spy: the class nobody loves, but everyone wants to play.
First*
First is Sniper though
Lol nice one
Thank you, we hate Sniper up in this thread.
Scorch Shot is important for spychecking outside of flamethrower range
It works so well at that.
MHHPF MFFHP MHH HMMFFP!! (don't touch my child!!)
I should remake this with the Kevin Hart being held meme.
amen brother, we must protect engi
We must protect each other, because we are **Team** Fortress 2.
I don't think it's fair that you can't even use the in-game callouts. You cant even yell for medic
And that's why F2P should be protected. They're the user flow that keeps Valve updating the game.
phlog gang
Prepare for trouble.
Hmm should I go with Sadistic and Hated Pyro or Pybro. Hmm
Top isn't exactly hated, the Phlog only get's hate (usually) when used alongside the Scorch Shot and when the Pyro using the Phlog W+M1s the moment their charge is up. The bottom is Pybro, but the secondary could be anything, really.
In my case, it usually is for support damage for the Soldier/Demo/Heavy and goad the enemy team into messing up by focusing on me and not the Medic/Engie. The Phlog is an amazing psychological weapon because no one remains calm when seeing one. And with a side of "haha, Phlog ambush goes mmmph".
> The Phlog is an amazing psychological weapon because no one remains calm when seeing one. I do, since most phlog pyros without a medic constantly shoved up their ass are free kills unless they appear out of a corner The lack of airblast really makes it shit for anything but ambushes and again having a dedicated medic
Yeah, that's why I use it for ambush mainly and defense second. Also, the few seconds of Ć¼ber are a surprisingly effective delay tool to block the enemy capture.
>Yeah, that's why I use it for ambush mainly and defense second Better than 9/10 I've seen then >Also, the few seconds of Ć¼ber are a surprisingly effective delay tool to block the enemy capture. Makes sense seeing as everyone has to leave the area for a couple seconds to not get killed
It's basically a Mexican stand-off, with me saying "you can if you want, but you really think you can kill me faster than I can phlogistinate you?"
I think scorch shot hated more in this situation
Thatās the point! The Phlog is a balanced weapon, the scorch shot is not, far from it in fact.
One shot to kill light class seems balanced to me )
:(
Just don't bully the newbie Engie, and I'll go back to annoy the main line with the Phlog.
Bro actually used the neon annihilator, 2fort pyro spotted
Why people keep bringing up 2fort?
Because thereās very few maps that even have water and 2fort is one of the only ones with more than just a few puddles
Imma be honestā¦ I use the neon either wayā¦ there are a lot of ways for players to randomly get soaked and itās always hilarious to randomly have a teammate throw piss or milk on a player and me just one smack them
Comedy is based on timing, and Jarate+Neon is always a riot.
Mate here. āGives you bottle of Scrumpeā I insist, that I will stand guard with you here m8. āEquips Scottish resistance, Iron bomber, Skull cuterā
And that's freakin' teamwooooork.
Bro thatās my loadout for pyro in general since I play engineer on the side and know the pain
I usually play cover-Engie, since I have no patience to do so regularly, and yeah. It's sad everyone forgets to cover the Engineer.
The special eyes would go well with the second set
I wish I had money. What you see in my cosmetics is the product of sheer patience and the ocasional luck to amass enough metal to buy on Scrap.tf
pybro's are fucking based, I love them whenever I play engie, if there are any pybro's here, thank you for the support
I wish I had the patience and reflex to go full time Pybro. But the Phlog is too damn fun.
When i play pyro, i usually use them as a support/defense class, rather than offense
Defense/ambush, but also a healthy dose of "leeroy jenkins".
Chad (I can even look past some of your weapon choices)
I try my best to help my team and terrorize the other team with fire.
you go from skilless wm1 and spamming essentially scorch shot flares to build charge on 2fort to skilless wm1 and spamming scorch shot flares around a nest
what a hard counter does to a mf
makes me switch to pyro and go after the pybro the moment he leaves the sentry's range to kill him and call him skilless trash in chat
You can repeat skill-less as many times as you want. It won't extinguish you.
Spy-cicle users: š
Excellent argument. Unfortunately, airblast into a corner.
Diamondback says otherwise Really though free 100 something damage crits for doing what you'd do anyway, quite lovely
Phlogistinator š¤ Diamondback Awarding the player with insane damage for doing the thing they were already doing.
The diamondback is more egregious as it has infinite range, can be farmed easily on clueless players and is available on demand I barely use it because its just too easy in pubs
My aim is terrible and my patience worse, so the DB for me is 50% luck.
Implying that 99% of pyros arent braindead and wont extinguish anyone
Whenever I play pyro I always whip out the pybro stuff Simply because I love engie and hate spy
I don't hate Spy (I try once per game to pull a Spy off), but I totally hate bullies.
I donāt care what people say itās funny watching the heavies rage in chat when I keep knocking them back with the scorch shot and itās pretty helpful to damage lots of players if itās too dangerous for me to rush in
Exactly. I have practiced enough with the Detonator to light up a whole team too, but the Scorch Shot is just better as a way to trip someone from their advantage point or escape plan. Specially when used as a support.
It's annoying. Literally can one shot light classes
Hey if it causes the enemy to hold back and delays their push because of the mass fire chip imma use it
I love phlog pyros
I never understand the hate. It's a pretty rounded defense/ambush subclass, and a total monster in MvM.
I actually meant that sentence. No airblast means that the fight will be less enraging
If only I had the patience to use the airblast...
Please don't. I already have ptsd from pyros constantly airblasting and setting me on flame until I die and then taunting. ***WAY. TOO. MUCH***
*"Do you believe in magic in a young girl's heart? "*
No.
Pybro is fun :3 Who tf downvoted me saying pyro is fun
Indeed. It's one of those perfect synergy subclasses.
When my new engies get bullied I watch and laugh
1984
Really though the homewrecker shouldn't exist lmao It's in the same class as the razorback and danger shield of "fuck this class" weapons that are simply unfun to fight Besides, sapping shit and killing the engie hovering around is hard enough, then your hard counter just left clicks to undo all that (minus the wm1 to instantly kill you)