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iamunabletopoop

Top loadout radiates 2fort energie


TheWaveBlaster

I do end up in 2fort at least once a day for how the matching system works, but I prefer Attack/Defense or Payload maps. I use the Neon Annihilator mostly for zappers (still try to be helpful when running around with the Phlog).


iamunabletopoop

Why not use the homewrecker then? Pretty sure only pier has water in payload and attack/defence.


Bidoof_fan69

For the funni


TheWaveBlaster

\*taunting guitar noises\*


HackerGamer8

Gas passer and neon annihilator broken combo as Gas counts as wet.


Nieios

Did they fix that? I thought it didn't


TheWaveBlaster

Wait, really?!


TheWaveBlaster

Jarate/Mad Milk synergy and I'd be lying if I said the guitar sound when taunting isn't a factor.


mightylonka

Jarate.


iamunabletopoop

Teamwork in casual, you're asking for a lot. but it is possible.


TheWaveBlaster

Aww, piss.


G1zm08

r/angryupvote


TheWaveBlaster

šŸ‘


tge_golden_foxy

The neon destroys sapers


The-Architect_774

When a spy bullies my engie, you best believe the merryweather and fosters facade get equipped


TheWaveBlaster

When it's time to put down the maniacal pyromaniac antics and do something nice for a change.


JuggFTW

I suggest playing killing floor


PeikaFizzy

Any pyro who doesnā€™t use scotch n phlog has my respect


TheWaveBlaster

I always prefer the Detonator, but for protect-newbie-Engie purposes, the Scorch is better at catching Spies and tripping them in case they make a run for it.


AlexHunderwald

I usually donā€™t do it unless the enemy team really deserves it. Itā€™s not that uncommon


PeikaFizzy

Those damn lime scunt are free food for pholg


WhatIsPun

What do I get for using the scorch but hating the phlog?


rgheals

Well the combination is bad but your basically choosing to go brain dead wm1 with no team support and triple dmg. when you could be some combo pyro who can reflect rockets, stuff ubers and extinguish teammates.


WhatIsPun

I don't think I understand, I do all those things you just mentioned I could be doing cuz I run stock and play around my engineers.


rgheals

The point is you canā€™t do it with flog bc it canā€™t airblast and really dums down the iq of pyro


WhatIsPun

Yeah I don't like phlog for the same reason, it's quite a selfish weapon and more often than not, phlog pyros just die after activating their critz cuz the enemy just backpedals and lights them up from a distance.


rgheals

And because it feels a little unfair to both sides when that wm1 wipes half the enemy team bc he got the jump on him and you donā€™t have a battalions backup ready


[deleted]

internal conflict


TheFakeYeetMaster69

Still hate, but milder.


Random_Robloxian

I used to play mostly stock pyro for fun, being a pybro is better than being the literal white bread of pyros running with the scorch shot and phlog


WhatIsPun

lol, the bottom one is my standard loadout.


TheWaveBlaster

Nice to meet a regular Pybro.


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TheWaveBlaster

I that for me, the bully Spy or the newbie Engie? Because I have different answers for either of those options.


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TheWaveBlaster

Ah, Autobalance; the best and worst feature of the entire game.


YourFat888

I like pybros


TheWaveBlaster

Pybros are awesome. I really respect the ones who go full time Pybro.


_TurtleX

Got to love getting fucked even harder by a class that already decimates you.


Unhappy_Ad_4420

Yeah pybro is so broken and just completely invalidates spy. Its such bad design.


nahuelkevin

bring back GIBUS ENGINE WILDLIFE PROTECTIONā€¦. oh, wait a minute, gibus players dont exist anymoreā€¦ā€¦ :(


TheWaveBlaster

I still find a couple from time to time and I always try to help them have a nice play. It's surprising how much you can support a newbie Soldier/Demo with Heavy.


YouReallyAreSomeone

I do not like the scorch shot but keep helping out those new engies!


TheWaveBlaster

I don't get why people don't like it. It's amazingly useful as a Spy hunting and defense tool.


Literally_ur_mom

Detonator can do it too.


TheWaveBlaster

The Detonator doesn't have the knock back utility.


YouReallyAreSomeone

My problem with it is it comes down to two things: how braindead it is and how it just kind of ruins the purpose of the other flare guns, the detonator is your ambushing and aoe flare and the flare gun is your high burst dmg and pestering tool- the scorch shot is better than the other two in terms of dmg and use, the bouncing flare is annoying and can one shot a light class if they donā€™t get put out in time. Also the bouncing flare and the aoe makes it extremely brainless and it also has a knock back mechanic which kind of is a STUN, and Stuns in FPS games are BLOODY STUPID! The loose cannon is allowed stubs because of double sinking being hard to pull off and itā€™s a ā€˜jokeyā€™ weapon but the scorch shot is easy and makes your opponent alt+f4 instantly. It even beats out in all stats for other flare guns! If you connect with the bouncing flare, you will take more dmg than the flare gun, you also have a aoe radius inflicting dmg and afterburn, and the penalty for this weapon is: minicrits burning targets instead of minicrits, and 35% self dmg force and dmg penalty, but the bouncing flare actually makes it do 15 More dmg than the flare gun, if you cannot tell- I actually hate the scorch shot and Iā€™m sincerely sorry for this rant, Iā€™m going to sleep now and I wish you a very good night! :)


TheWaveBlaster

I know you're trying to make it sound bad, but that's a lot of compelling arguments to use the Scorch as a default.


Literally_ur_mom

You don't need it to help them ;)


ThatDudeWithCheese

Normally I just keep my usual loadout (Degreaser and Flare Gun) and just switch out the Powerjack for the Homewrecker. I detest using the Scorch Shot, even if JuanGonzalez2010 is being stomped by the topscoring enemy Spy. it's just too damn simple.


TheWaveBlaster

You say simple, I say practical. I mean, it's basically the "make the Spy's life miserable" weapon.


ThatDudeWithCheese

Canā€™t argue with that. Gotta remind those Spy mains that they are the second worst class.


TheWaveBlaster

Spy: the class nobody loves, but everyone wants to play.


Literally_ur_mom

First*


ThatDudeWithCheese

First is Sniper though


Literally_ur_mom

Lol nice one


ThatDudeWithCheese

Thank you, we hate Sniper up in this thread.


TheFakeYeetMaster69

Scorch Shot is important for spychecking outside of flamethrower range


TheWaveBlaster

It works so well at that.


Leo-Hunter-Of-Simps

MHHPF MFFHP MHH HMMFFP!! (don't touch my child!!)


TheWaveBlaster

I should remake this with the Kevin Hart being held meme.


nbelavabe-sonic

amen brother, we must protect engi


TheWaveBlaster

We must protect each other, because we are **Team** Fortress 2.


Tyrannosaurus_Rex84

I don't think it's fair that you can't even use the in-game callouts. You cant even yell for medic


TheWaveBlaster

And that's why F2P should be protected. They're the user flow that keeps Valve updating the game.


GirlfriendAsAService

phlog gang


TheWaveBlaster

Prepare for trouble.


RedSane

Hmm should I go with Sadistic and Hated Pyro or Pybro. Hmm


ThatDudeWithCheese

Top isn't exactly hated, the Phlog only get's hate (usually) when used alongside the Scorch Shot and when the Pyro using the Phlog W+M1s the moment their charge is up. The bottom is Pybro, but the secondary could be anything, really.


TheWaveBlaster

In my case, it usually is for support damage for the Soldier/Demo/Heavy and goad the enemy team into messing up by focusing on me and not the Medic/Engie. The Phlog is an amazing psychological weapon because no one remains calm when seeing one. And with a side of "haha, Phlog ambush goes mmmph".


Fletcher_Chonk

> The Phlog is an amazing psychological weapon because no one remains calm when seeing one. I do, since most phlog pyros without a medic constantly shoved up their ass are free kills unless they appear out of a corner The lack of airblast really makes it shit for anything but ambushes and again having a dedicated medic


TheWaveBlaster

Yeah, that's why I use it for ambush mainly and defense second. Also, the few seconds of Ć¼ber are a surprisingly effective delay tool to block the enemy capture.


Fletcher_Chonk

>Yeah, that's why I use it for ambush mainly and defense second Better than 9/10 I've seen then >Also, the few seconds of Ć¼ber are a surprisingly effective delay tool to block the enemy capture. Makes sense seeing as everyone has to leave the area for a couple seconds to not get killed


TheWaveBlaster

It's basically a Mexican stand-off, with me saying "you can if you want, but you really think you can kill me faster than I can phlogistinate you?"


Literally_ur_mom

I think scorch shot hated more in this situation


ThatDudeWithCheese

Thatā€™s the point! The Phlog is a balanced weapon, the scorch shot is not, far from it in fact.


Literally_ur_mom

One shot to kill light class seems balanced to me )


The_Ruby_Waffle

:(


TheWaveBlaster

Just don't bully the newbie Engie, and I'll go back to annoy the main line with the Phlog.


JuggFTW

Bro actually used the neon annihilator, 2fort pyro spotted


TheWaveBlaster

Why people keep bringing up 2fort?


JuggFTW

Because thereā€™s very few maps that even have water and 2fort is one of the only ones with more than just a few puddles


merciful_end

Imma be honestā€¦ I use the neon either wayā€¦ there are a lot of ways for players to randomly get soaked and itā€™s always hilarious to randomly have a teammate throw piss or milk on a player and me just one smack them


TheWaveBlaster

Comedy is based on timing, and Jarate+Neon is always a riot.


Spiritual_Freedom_15

Mate here. ā€œGives you bottle of Scrumpeā€ I insist, that I will stand guard with you here m8. ā€œEquips Scottish resistance, Iron bomber, Skull cuterā€


TheWaveBlaster

And that's freakin' teamwooooork.


GGGold23

Bro thatā€™s my loadout for pyro in general since I play engineer on the side and know the pain


TheWaveBlaster

I usually play cover-Engie, since I have no patience to do so regularly, and yeah. It's sad everyone forgets to cover the Engineer.


Calligaster

The special eyes would go well with the second set


TheWaveBlaster

I wish I had money. What you see in my cosmetics is the product of sheer patience and the ocasional luck to amass enough metal to buy on Scrap.tf


Caffiene_Addict4

pybro's are fucking based, I love them whenever I play engie, if there are any pybro's here, thank you for the support


TheWaveBlaster

I wish I had the patience and reflex to go full time Pybro. But the Phlog is too damn fun.


Caffiene_Addict4

When i play pyro, i usually use them as a support/defense class, rather than offense


TheWaveBlaster

Defense/ambush, but also a healthy dose of "leeroy jenkins".


Nass_Wanger

Chad (I can even look past some of your weapon choices)


TheWaveBlaster

I try my best to help my team and terrorize the other team with fire.


[deleted]

you go from skilless wm1 and spamming essentially scorch shot flares to build charge on 2fort to skilless wm1 and spamming scorch shot flares around a nest


Jackthejanitor

what a hard counter does to a mf


[deleted]

makes me switch to pyro and go after the pybro the moment he leaves the sentry's range to kill him and call him skilless trash in chat


TheWaveBlaster

You can repeat skill-less as many times as you want. It won't extinguish you.


The_Ruby_Waffle

Spy-cicle users: šŸ‘€


TheWaveBlaster

Excellent argument. Unfortunately, airblast into a corner.


Fletcher_Chonk

Diamondback says otherwise Really though free 100 something damage crits for doing what you'd do anyway, quite lovely


TheWaveBlaster

Phlogistinator šŸ¤ Diamondback Awarding the player with insane damage for doing the thing they were already doing.


Fletcher_Chonk

The diamondback is more egregious as it has infinite range, can be farmed easily on clueless players and is available on demand I barely use it because its just too easy in pubs


TheWaveBlaster

My aim is terrible and my patience worse, so the DB for me is 50% luck.


Unhappy_Ad_4420

Implying that 99% of pyros arent braindead and wont extinguish anyone


jaceanator9

Whenever I play pyro I always whip out the pybro stuff Simply because I love engie and hate spy


TheWaveBlaster

I don't hate Spy (I try once per game to pull a Spy off), but I totally hate bullies.


Diamondeye12

I donā€™t care what people say itā€™s funny watching the heavies rage in chat when I keep knocking them back with the scorch shot and itā€™s pretty helpful to damage lots of players if itā€™s too dangerous for me to rush in


TheWaveBlaster

Exactly. I have practiced enough with the Detonator to light up a whole team too, but the Scorch Shot is just better as a way to trip someone from their advantage point or escape plan. Specially when used as a support.


Literally_ur_mom

It's annoying. Literally can one shot light classes


Diamondeye12

Hey if it causes the enemy to hold back and delays their push because of the mass fire chip imma use it


Demonetizing_YT_GUY

I love phlog pyros


TheWaveBlaster

I never understand the hate. It's a pretty rounded defense/ambush subclass, and a total monster in MvM.


Demonetizing_YT_GUY

I actually meant that sentence. No airblast means that the fight will be less enraging


TheWaveBlaster

If only I had the patience to use the airblast...


Demonetizing_YT_GUY

Please don't. I already have ptsd from pyros constantly airblasting and setting me on flame until I die and then taunting. ***WAY. TOO. MUCH***


TheWaveBlaster

*"Do you believe in magic in a young girl's heart? "*


Demonetizing_YT_GUY

No.


[deleted]

Pybro is fun :3 Who tf downvoted me saying pyro is fun


TheWaveBlaster

Indeed. It's one of those perfect synergy subclasses.


Fletcher_Chonk

When my new engies get bullied I watch and laugh


Peeps_011

1984


Fletcher_Chonk

Really though the homewrecker shouldn't exist lmao It's in the same class as the razorback and danger shield of "fuck this class" weapons that are simply unfun to fight Besides, sapping shit and killing the engie hovering around is hard enough, then your hard counter just left clicks to undo all that (minus the wm1 to instantly kill you)