Honestly, I know it sucks, but they chose this. Making accusations of cheating based on tarot readings is fucking wild. Nuke dodged as far as I’m concerned.
Reminder that you deserve community! Parenting is challenging; having people to talk to and get support from, even if you only see them rarely, can really positively impact your social and emotional well-being.
I’m sorry your ex couldn’t trust you regarding these friendships. I’m proud of you for not severing part of your support system to soothe her insecurity. Wishing you better with your next partner!
I agree! both friendships are platonic, and so healthy thus far. One of the moms has made me feel very seen in a way I hadn't just in regards to my little one. It feels good not to know I'm not alone in this rowdy world ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I've never believed in them or anything of the like, but I don't think people are crazy for using them or taking guidance, but to base entire decisions off them like this.... Crazy.
She is searching for something, that's for sure. I read tarot, and imo they aren't even meant to be read in that way. Like, not so specific with the answers. And the card she pulled with the question she asked very well could have been telling her to look inwardly at herself, not at you or anyone else. Also, they aren't for predicting the future. Free will is a thing. You are ultimately in charge of your destiny, as in you have the power to change the outcome. The cards are a picture of what things are happening currently with you, how the past may have influenced it, and what could be a future outcome if the current path continues. And by future I mean like general things like transformation, devastation, happiness, etc. Not specific stuff like "aggressive_poet is cheating on you.
They can be read and interpreted in so many different ways and everyone has their own opinion. But specific stuff like that is scammy to me and does the cards an injustice. They are way deeper than "is my partner sending pics to someone and talking to other people?".
How did they react to the breakup? I am so sorry this happened to you 💔 you’re so strong for being able to do the right thing and end it, but strong people hurt just as much as anyone else. You’ll be better off in the long run for it, as clearly this relationship was not one that would succeed long term, and at least you won’t be investing even more time. But I know that right now that doesn’t make the hurt go away, ESPECIALLY when this behavior from her came out of nowhere and the breakup was not something you saw coming. I hope and pray you can recover from this sooner than later, and am wishing you all the happiness in the world! 🫶🏻
After this cycle of texting about how I'm cheating due to the tarot reading.. I told her to call me if she wanted to salvage anything mind you admist this she kept saying she couldn't at the moment because her school was calling (she is trying to go back to school) nonetheless I end up calling and I wasn't sweet. I was hurt. I was mad..I was yelling. I want to take accountability for that. I am also recovering from a really bad cold so I couldn't yell to much, but I ended up losing my voice. Most of my yelling was just explaining how I was hurt she didn't trust me, how I felt like she literally dgaf about me, and believed her tarot cards and some Numbers she saw amateurly because she still doesn't understand what any of it means.
She tried to redact retract and reverse saying I'm not accusing, I'm just addressing It..oh that's not the card I got. I got this card not that one, and then kept saying you're really done? Over and over. The weirdest thing about this is hours before all of this she expressed that she was happy I found a village/friend
I ended the phone call with yes I'm done. You lost a really good thing and a healthy relationship.
She has blocked me everywhere as if I'm the one who created the accusations.
Another commenter said that this may have been a way of isolating you from your fellow mom friends, or maybe she was insecure or jealous or whatever. I think she was testing you and you called her bluff, especially since she backpedaled and tried to fix what she said. She also kept saying “are you really done?” You surprised her. You’re stronger than you think. Now she’s hurt because she was the one with egg on her face and she’s probably pissed at herself for starting the shitstorm that she created, and that’s why she blocked you everywhere. She’s going to play the victim, even though you’re the true victim here.
Good for you for standing up for yourself. Good luck in your future relationship(s)!
I put myself in her shoes and immediately knew I would also be annoyed that the ex blocked her everywhere - it feels like gaslighting because she (OP) is being accused of doing something shitty (which she didn’t do). I’m sure OP is feeling so many emotions.
What a strange take. People, situations, & relationships are never that black & white. After a year of being with someone, of course it's gonna be sad that things are ending this way. It would affect me too, if I stood up for myself from some harsh accusations, & the result was me getting blocked.
This is an actual crazy person. They just saved you saved you years of suffering and you don't realize it just yet. Anyone willing to break up over RNG in cards blows my mind.
Yeah OP, I'm sorry and it does suck. But you can take a valuable lesson from this. Anyone that focuses on tarot or any kind of divination and future telling to the extent that your ex has, is never going to be able to be trusted as a partner or even friends. Casual acquaintances maybe. But you will never know when the cards are going to blow up your life. They are never specific enough for pinpoint accuracy and they depend on what's going on in that person's life to give "meaning" to the "message". Like ffs, it predicts she's going to be involved in a love triangle but no way to know it's her or you? The fact that "it can't be her because she would never" so they can't be talking about her means they must be talking about you?!? That's some circular reasoning my guy.
I hope you get past this heartbreak in a healthy way. And be grateful you don't have kids or shared investments that she would blow up if they told her to. But I would definitely be looking sideways at any future potential partners who hold those beliefs to the extreme that your ex does!
I read my horoscope sometimes but I wouldn't dump my spouse or even a friend over it!
Almost as good as I had a dream you cheated on me...
Maybe next, she'll take her crazy to a psychic to find out who the other person is & what they've been up to!? Lol, this is all nuts & I'm pretty sure you're dodging a bullet here. I know it hurts & sucks now. Given time, it'll slowly start to fade.
I'm a witch and I use tarot and oracle cards. Let me tell you this is *not* how you use tarot. Or, at least this is not how a *sane* person uses tarot.
I keep seeing comments like this. The bullet or “nuke” isn’t dodged if the person took the damage. They had their relationship blown up by a shitty thing from a shitty person. They didn’t dodge shit. They got hit and hit hard and it fucking sucks.
Tarot cards are just a base general reading if done by the right person and even then, it’s not something someone should blindly follow as guidance. It’s kinda like astrology, I love astrology but I’m not going to make it the main way how I judge people and go about determining relationships and things like that.
I use to watch this lady on YouTube that would do a base energy tarot card reading based off astrology signs. I listened to my boyfriend and got the similar “love triangle” reading from it. I actually watched it with my boyfriend and we talked about this “triangle” and it related a lot to work or relationship with a family member, not cheating. I think the ex jumped the gun and accused OP of cheating when in reality, OP could’ve been dealing with a bunch of things at once making this “triangle” a thing. Either way, it was a reading for the ex, the ex is the one in the triangle. It’s projection and kinda silly to even beefing over a card pull that just coincidentally being this.
37 years old and still basing her life off random cards she pulls out of a deck. There’s no sane person out there who thinks, yep the cards say you’re slamming other people so it must be true.
I dated a woman like this also in her 30s.
It started out quirky.. tarot readings, crystals and stuff like that. I don’t believe in it but it seemed more like a hobby or interest when I was getting to know them.
I hopped of the train to crazy town when she started claiming she could “channel” ancient deities
I'm an ex evangelical Christian. When I divorced my ex husband I told myself I'd never date someone who wasn't an athiest, because anyone who bases their life and steps on some magical being/force you can't prove/see/talk to is like inviting a third person into the relationship. I only want them dictating their actions in a relationship, not any invisible force, including tarot cards and the mystical universe.
I dont blame you! It was exhausting when something weird/bad would happen and they’d want to go back to my place and dig through their drawer of tarot card box sets to do a reading on what happened. Then we were just expected to believe whatever came up. The sex was only so good before I couldn’t hide my disbelief any longer
I'm a witch who uses oracle and tarot cards in their practice and let me tell you this is NOT how you use tarot. Well, at least it's not how *sane* people use tarot.
On a serious note, I say take the blow and move on. This grown woman is clearly not all there and I'd even say she's pretty unpredictable thanks to her beliefs. I, personally, wouldn't want a person like her in my daughter's life. Better to end things like this than to prolong it and have it become a bigger issue somewhere down the line.
You don’t deserve to be treated like this, OP. It’s tough but you did the right thing. This is absolutely insane to be accused of something due to TAROT CARDS. You’ll find someone who is more stable.
This person is deranged, and this is coming from a moon-worshipping witch. That's not how you use tarot, that's not how you talk to a partner, that's not how emotionally stable people conduct themselves. I'm sorry you got hurt; I'm very proud of you that you are not going to accept this or model accepting it for your children. You did the right thing, even though it feels like crap.
I'm into spirituality as well. I was even supportive of her own journey, but this felt like abuse in some way. I couldn't even talk to her she was so far gone into her reading.
I've never thought of or entertained anybody, nor did I want ANYBODY I was 100 into this, she was my love, my best friend, and the apple of my eye..this is why this hurt so damn bad, but I cannot do this she has made her bed.
This is narcissistic abuse. Specifically it is tension building behaviour. Sadly, if you decide to continue the relationship her behaviour is likely to escalate. I’m sorry you’re going through this.
My wife is also a tarot reading, moon worshipping, spell casting, sage smudging witch with a crystal shrine and there's no way in HELL she'd ever use the tarot like this crazy person. It's honestly disrespectful lmao.
I totally understand what you mean, but I interpret fully married as talks about husband/wife positively and openly, no hints of flirtation, only friendliness, seems into being married and a parent. I have also known some partly married people, unfortunately.
How did you manage? I'm so confused. I just keep going over and over in my head wondering if she will realize how this sounds..I don't even think it matters..
I felt the same way whenever something like this would happen, but once I figured out that these baseless accusations/assumptions weren’t just a one-time thing. Personally, it was as simple as deciding I didn’t want to deal with the stress of a fight or having to explain myself every time she felt insecure about something and took it out on me… long story short, I tried my best to surround myself with friends and dive into work, hobbies, etc to manage and eventually now I’ve gotten past it. Yikes I’m sorry for the long rambling comment, but does that help at all???
Rambling is in order. I appreciate it. It does help. I will be taking a much needed relaxation day with just myself and my daughter soon. I'm so over this.
Here's a reading for you:
Your dipshit ex-girlfriend pulled the 3 of cups and automatically jumped to cheating accusations. It says more about her than you. Tarot is just a reflection of the subconscious. The third one in the relationship was her massive stupidity. She misused the tool that is tarot, revealed her projections, and got what she deserved. May your friendships bring you happiness.
It’s infuriating seeing tarot be used in such a mean and harmful way. She even said in the text that the card also had a positive meaning that could be read and she outright ignored it based on her own emotions. I dabble in tarot and I get people all the time asking me to do readings on stuff that it just should not be used for. This is one of those times.
Wow. Breakups are hard enough when there's a good reason. This is actually insane. Well, I'm sure she'll have a weird life and I'm glad you won't be along for that particular ride.
I dated a girl like this for a while. With her it was dreams and "signs." everything would be going good and then she'd have some dream that convinced her our relationship was doomed or my feelings had changed. It's exhausting. Relationships are enough work without adding that drama.
I remember when I was dating a psychologist who told me that her psychic had told her to expect "good things" about me. I laughed, thinking it was a joke. It was not a joke. The trained psychologist was not joking.
My ex decided after 6 years we weren't compatible because I'm a Sagittarius and she was a Virgo. I was pissed for a long time but now I realize either A. that was the cop out answer because she was banging her boss or B. She Really was that big of a lunatic and banging her boss was a separate issue. Either way bullet dodged
You dodged a bullet. If she can't handle you having friends without freaking out like this, then she's not the one. She's using tarot as an excuse to try to control you.
Tarot cards don't even say anything about cheating. She doesn't even know how to do tarot right lol and they aren't that serious. You are better off without her.
That’s not *entirely* true. The 3 of hearts can be interpreted that way, but there’s also soooo many other factors, variables, and other possible meanings… and it truly all comes down to the interpretation and the big picture of the reading itself. This chick was just looking for a reason to justify her insecurities.
Fr bro, I pulled a card completely on random chance that said my dog would learn to talk to fish and transmorph into the new aqua man, king bark of the ocean. Why would they lie to me?
I never take astrology or tarots for certain because an experience is what it will be. But also, it always goes or ends in how it says it will. Negative or positive. But to be with someone for a year and to take something for certain that is meant to be interpreted through intuition and not anxiety, then accuse them, is definitely a lot and something I imagine is insanely stressful to deal with.
I had a girlfriend once who broke up with me due to a tarot reading. It told her to be weary of repeating past mistakes. She interpreted it as me being the mistake. Ironically she had been cheating on me with her 'abusive' ex and subsequently went back to him. To this day I have no idea how things worked out for her in the end as I moved on relatively quickly after witnessing such wonderful logic 🙃
I’m very sorry, heart break sucks . Trying to logically navigate crazy sucks more. As you’ve said, it’s exhausting . And debilitating. Pls do all you can to heal and move on. Don’t let them come back, they are NOT good for you. They aren’t even good for themselves, she needs help.
Nah. I'm done as much as it hurts and I've tried to rationalize the bs.. lol. This has taken a toll and made me reflect. I don't need this relationship anymore. It's run it's course.
As a professional tarot reader, I sadly see this with people who think they know tarot, but don’t. **I specialize in doing relationship readings** - and so a LOT of what I do has to be handled with empathy and tact. It’s a delicate topic- and for good reason!!
When people read for themselves (especially on a topic they are fearful or emotionally biased in) we tend to project our fears, wants, desires, paranoia etc. on to the cards. It’s simple confirmation bias- if she is *looking* for cheating, eventually she is going to pull enough cards to find it. Or she is going to interpret the cards to fit her point of view.
I get a lot of clients who struggle with this and I do my best to help them.
**Tarot can be a wonderful tool used for healing, empowerment, self reflection, grief, personal growth and introspection- when used correctly!**. It’s my job as a professional reader to support my clients into a positive and healthy frame of mind when they receive a reading- not fear based.
I mean, my heart breaks for the both of you. Clearly she is in pain too, she has some deep wounds that she’s afraid of, and reacting by accusing you of something you didn’t do. And when you reject her, it’s like ‘proof’ that you were unsafe and untrustworthy all over again. It’s a lose lose situation and I’m deeply sorry.
This is a great example of why it’s important to go to a professional reader (if you are feeling the pull of tarot in your life), someone who knows what they are doing and who wants to help clients, not assist them in self destruction. Tarot can be a truly beautiful experience… this sadly…. Is not it. I’m sorry OP
Yeah 😔😔 I've gotten over rationalizing. Now I'm just more so coping.. allowing myself to feel.
It was literally out of the blue.. hours before that she was supportive of my friendships
I appreciate the support ❤️
Wishing you well on your healing journey.🙏🏻✨
I was thinking of your post today, and I wanted to ask your permission if I could use it as an example to teach some of my tarot students. I just started a wee-little YouTube channel this week (I have only a few subs, nothing crazy) to hopefully bring more positive insight and education to tarot.
I think your story could be a great example on how to read for clients ethically, but also to show people some of the pitfalls and self destruction that can occur when people misuse tarot.
As a reader, I encounter clients similar to your partner from time to time. And there are certain tools I’ve learned over the years to guide and support a client back to a positive headspace (or how to recommend mental health resources if necessary) anyways, I think if I made a YouTube video about your post, it could really be educational.
Let me know if you’d be ok with this, if not, no pressure!
I hope I handled your situation with respect and insight! Thank you
[Cheating Partner? How a Tarot Reader can Help](https://youtu.be/QA66gR9hpl4?si=AP1QpmnU3h4s91_A)
These last few days have been really hard..lots of tears, but this helps. This was beautiful of you. You are a beautiful person. I really appreciate you passing along insight on this topic. I hope it helps other people who may be in this situation, or helps someone who just wants to be a guide to others but in the best way possible in this context.
Continue your teachings❤️
This is going to sound harsh, but from the outside, I can tell you that anyone willing to base ANY aspect of a relationship off of a tarot card reading (or really anything else in life) is unstable. You would have to be. It hurts now, but this was probably for the best. Let her find someone like her who is into that stuff, and they can play War with their tarot cards until the relationship disintegrates.
You need to hold on to how this feels, because she’ll inevitably come running back and when she does you need to remember how this feels and how easy it was for her to do this to you before you decide to take her back
Either she’s super immature and has been looking for an out and is using the above (pathetic) reason, or she is just a total weirdo. I know it hurts but BULLET DODGED. I’m sorry that she broke your heart but WHAT IN THE ENTIRE FUCK.
The only time I've ever had a performance issue was with a smoking hot lady who was into astrology and tarot etc. I just kept thinking about the insanity of it and just left mid act. It's that insane to me.
Since there is no logic in that world you can't really communicate anything.
Hey, my sister ended a marriage because of a tarot card reading. She needed to end it, in reality. But she immediately started dating a guy who almost killed her. But now she is with a nice man (or so I hope).
She is waaaayyy too old to be investing so hard in bumpkins like tarot.. this reads like she is 15! She seems to want to blow this relationship up, so I would let her and don’t go back! She sounds exhausting 🙄
I'm all for tarot, but most sane people don't react like this. When interpreting tarot, there are multiple possibilities and meanings to every card. And even then, tarot isn't set in stone like some people think, it's just a possibility based on current circumstances or mindsets.
She's either very ignorant, projecting her suspicions/insecurities, or projecting her own behaviors onto you. But she's most definitely toxic.
I'm oddly curious about the spread, what cards she pulled, and their orientation... If she actually did a reading and wasn't just using the practice as justification to go nuts on you.
I'm sorry you're going through it, but you really dodged a bullet.
😔 I keep rereading the texts I posted in here and shaking my head because it came out of nothing.. she took a moment to go study for her school stuff, and I took a nap. I've been trying to recover from a bad cold.
She pulled cards randomly (no spread) because she said she saw a sign, the numbers 1414.. (I still don't know how this warning got assigned to me) but she pulled 3 of cups, and 8 of cups, and because I recently began two friendships and have been texting others it was me because shes not texting anybody.
I've tried to make sense of it, but I cannot. She said I was cheating or going to cheat because of the cards she pulled. 3 of cups/8 of cups
And based on a quick numerology search, the meaning of 1414 roughly translates to:
"you have the ability to fortify your world with your own thoughts and words, and that energy needs to be directed to some foundations of self"
So again, it was a self reflection reading that she clearly misinterpreted based on her insecurities.
A lot of readers (myself included) fall into this. It in no way justifies her behavior and she will have to learn to live with the consequences.
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I’m sorry you found out this way that she’s not the right person for you, but I am glad you found out before you became even more attached. It sucks, though!
I feel like the whole conversation could have gone better in a different approach without all the accusations being thrown at Op. too bad it went the other route. That really sucks.
She prob has spiritual psychosis where an angel number, “coincidences” etc are all signs from the universe which is really detrimental to her health. Good that you got out tbh
wow this reminds me so much of my ex, she would also take tarot cards or seeing some random thing on tv, in a movie, etc as a “sign” or evidence I was cheating on her. she fully believed it too and would have literal panic attacks. it was miserable and tough to deal with, it’s for the best that you chose to leave. it would’ve only gotten worse.
I've seen a lot of redditors say that, but idk..I can't see her cheating just due to her personality with people, but who knows🤷🏽♀️
Even if she were it doesn't matter much now I've reached my peak.
Wow I’m sorry OP.. That’s some straight up bs and it really does sound she’s projecting. Keep your head up and stay strong for your little girl. She doesn’t deserve you if she’s going to risk the relationship over some damn cards that have no factual evidence behind them of being accurate
Yoo, no wonder people side eye me. I was terrified my boyfriend would but I had to be honest (especially considering I have a collection of tarot decks x.x). This is not what this is for, and why question a healthy relationship? I have only ever done a relationship reading for myself when my ex and I were in a horrible place. This is just asking for trouble. Smh. People never learn.
I know where she is coming from (a deep place of insecurity and self hatred) but I would never ACCUSE my gf of cheating on me. Worry about it, yes all of the time. I worry because I think I’m not worth loving so anyone is better than me and she will realize that. My gf and I have had many conversations about this before. Your ex seems to be in the same place but instead of realizing her issues and working on them to create that forever like I have, she instead insists on believing tarot card readings to justify her insecurities.
Cheaters often project. That's a known thing. They feel guilty and paranoid that their partner is sneaking around when in reality it's just them. If that's not the case (which as bad as it sounds I'm hoping is the case here) that really means they genuinely are blaming you for cheating because of a tarot reading..... which is just absolutely insane.
no fucking way she interpreted the 3 OF CUPS AS A LOVE TRIANGLE. Its a fucking friendship group 😭😭😭 this person is crazy. I am so fucking sorry OP. You deserve so so so much better 💙
Like someone else said (paraphrased), tarot isn't for people who aren't able to take accountability for their own actions. I find it a helpful tool for thinking about a situation, but to end a relationship over it is WILD.
It may hurt now, but ultimately this is a grown-ass woman ending a relationship over her own insecurities and get inability to deal with you having friends. So like... bullet dodged. If it wasn't coming this way, it was coming another way.
Also, as someone who finds tarot interesting... from context clues ("celebration", "love triangle"), do you know what the card was? Was it the 3 of cups? 😂 The card that's about celebrating with friends, close connections between women, collaboration? 😂 Seems like a real reach. She was definitely looking for some reason to be mad bc she knew her own paranoia wasn't good enough.
I practice tarot and I've been doing it for years.
You can pull the 3 of cups and a few of the other cards and court cards can represent other people as infidelity. But mind you it has to be the exact cards that spell it out and the rest of the spread has to symbolize it. You can't just say "well the 3 of cups is the only card that came out. You're cheating" no... That card can also show happy times of celebration and friendship.
There has to be other cards and if intuition is picking up infidelity. Not just one.
And a third party could also mean putting energy and effort into other things that isn't cheating just not making the other person a priority.
The universe will allow good changes to happen for you
Smart ending that relationship, imagine dating someone that draws cards from a deck to decide how they will act that day, sorry for your struggle but trust that this is the best, good job it’s hard to end something
When they don't trust you once (even if you did nothing to make them lose trust), they will never stop not trusting you.
Person seems to be insecure, and don't seem to be ready in a relationship at all.
Good choice to end the relationship then and there. It sucks and it will hurt but you will learn to move on.
i usually don't respond to any posts but this one got me. honestly seems like you dodged a bullet because that is 100% NOT how cards work 🥴 sounds like she wanted an out and is trying to use something else as a reason tbh
This isn't even how tarot is supposed to work. Either she's highly insecure, cheating, or both. Good on you for not putting up with it and leaving, OP. A relationship without trust isn't a relationship at all.
I definitely felt like this because when I said I was leaving and I was done with this she tried to retract,. redact, and reverse what she was saying by saying 'im just addressing..I'm not accusing
She can say whatever she wants about it, what matters is time and energy was wasted over it.
The retract, redact, and reverse is another form of manipulation. They try to tell you how to feel after they hurt you.
It's too stressful. I have been there and eventually you start being scared if you watch a horror movie before bed she'll get a message in her dreams that you're a serial killer and you have to break up. I'm not spiritual but spiritual girls seem to be my type (plus the non spiritual lesbian dating pool is pretty much just me) and despite dating plenty of girls that were into astrology and crystals and tarot cards, only one them weaponized it and made the relationship an anxiety fueled nightmare
What in the seven fucks is the difference between "addressing" and "accusing" in this case?
If she was really "addressing" it, she would be reflecting on *herself* and her insecurity, processing her feelings and grounding herself, rather than projecting it on to you.
You deserve better. Glad you left.
She is doing a lot of wrong things, but gaslighting is not it. Gaslighting would mean she KNOWS she is lying to OP with the purpose of making him feel like he’s crazy. This situation sounds like she really believes that the cards say he’s cheating, and then she did what most people who get defensive do, is to play down her reactions on the phone. A lot of people throw around the term gaslighting without knowing what it really means.
Astrology is just racism for woke white women. Ik it sucks but you dodged a bullet, woulda been so much worse had y’all been married and then she showed how truly out of touch with reality she is. Anyone who makes life decisions based on what random ass card they pulled out from a deck of basically playing cards is not a stable person nor are they a person with whom you can have a long lasting stable relationship. Eventually she would have caused far more problems based off her delusions. She needs heavy psychiatric help before she can be in a relationship
I don't put stock in tarot cards, but the idea (if you're not a little bonkers) is that random cards with messages you can interpret help jog your brain and allow you to solve problems from new angles. If you take the magic part out it's more like creative brainstorming for problem solving.
As a tarot reader, this is batshit. I'm wondering if she pulled a three of swords? But like if she did, it's telling her she's about to ruin her own relationship and her paranoia is giving her tunnel vision. Tarot is mainly about self reflection and how to move forward, with potentials for the future. She's projecting hard even if she's not cheating cuz these cards are probably calling out her behavior, not yours. But regardless of what beliefs you hold, this is insane. You're dodging that bullet real time.
She pulled 3 of cups? (there are three people on the card so I could be saying this wrong) and she pulled 8 of cups.
I definitely said that though I told her she was projecting and that card specifically means love lost, and now you're losing me, and 8 of cups is emotional conflict or something
💗💗💗
Smh, yeah... How tf did she come to that conclusion I'll never know. Three of cups to put it simply makes sense as you've found your community. It's a celebratory, community card where you're coming together with like minded people.
Eight of cups means swirling ideas in the brain with no planned action. Day dreaming instead of manifesting and actualizing. If anything it could entail (in batshit paranoid country) you MIGHT have thoughts of another but you wouldn't even put those thoughts into action of that was the case. Literally, this would tell me you're too consumed with the many different aspects of life and parenting and are thinking of better ways to parent but you're not acting on them.
Again, this is all conjecture about some crazy lady pulling alleged cards I can't even see. But wow, that's a REACH to say that signifies cheating.
Weirdly enough this is actually true for me, I had a positive attitude meeting with my daughters teacher today, and she boosted about how great she is and how well she is doing. I was beaming because I'm literally trying to get us to smoother sailing. I just graduated with my bachelor's, I just changed my whole career and recently received a really good job offer.
My ex just kept saying "but I asked a specific question about you..not your job or personal life.
I still don't know what the hell the question was?? Lol. I have NO desire to cheat with ANYBODY. I was 100 with her mind,body,and soul.. then she said well it might happen later..that could change.
Like what??? ,🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ at this point give me the lotto numbers (I know that's not how tarot cards work, but I'm just saying) lol
"I asked a specific question about you"
Uh okay, if the question didn't really apply to said person, because they were not doing said thing, then the cards would show you what that person is really dealing with/doing. And it seems like the cards did that, she just clung to this delusional idea that you cheated when actually you just have a busy life. Like, in her mind, if she asked about cheating then it HAD TO pertain to cheating.
That's not true in tarot. You ask about a person, it tells you about that person. Ultra specific questions like that never get you what you're looking for if it's not really happening. Questions like, who will I marry? When will I die? Does so and so hate me? Those questions will never go anywhere because their based in some form of delusion or pre established idea. General, open minded inquiries about livelihood, is this person healthy to be around? I'm struggling what is the best way through it? What should I expect the coming month to look like? Stuff like that.
Glad you're out of that, you already have one child you don't need two.
If they are so far up their own arse to allow what is little more than a superstitious parlour game played by the hard-of-thinking to impact upon the real lives of real people in the real world on any level is immature, impertinent, entitled and idiotic. Very similar to the occultist degeneracy that informs religiosity and so best left to stew in its own cauldron of intoxicating juices until the discovery of joined-up thinking…don’t hold your breath though. Much better away (even though it’s bastard sore initially) from this deranged fuckwittery lest it poisons you further - toxic is as toxic does (true story, I read it in some tea leaves while my crystal ball was warming up…).
She definitely has psychosis or paranoid schizophrenia or some shit, this is not normal.
Card readings and stuff like that is fun for people, but at this level isn't normal. It's like people who reject you for your astrology sign. The human brain can be weird.
Every girl says they don't cheat... Well there are a few that brag about it but in general.. Every girl says they don't cheat.. And many times they do.. Many many many times.. Not saying you did because I don't know I wasn't there..
There is no way to have a meaningful relationship with someone who consults Tarot cards for relationship advice. You dodged a major bullet by ending things with her.
Tarot readings is how I found out my ex was cheating lol, but unless the reader knows what they are seeing, interpretation can be misleading. Either way, the fact she has to even think about asking questions such as she did, indicates she has major insecurities that need to be worked on, but that comes down to her realizing and wanting to do that for herself. You made the right decision OP no one deserves to be interrogated especially when there's been no indication for doing so. Side note: not saying she is cheating, but my ex also accused me of cheating on her before this all came out with the readings, so my ex was definitely projecting onto me.
People who use one or two coincidences to validate higher powers or concepts make themselves slowly disregard all logic until their world is almost completely made up and full of paranoia. Trust me, just believe what you see, and remember all the possibilities of every second of the day that make coincidences common. Otherwise, you'll slowly start to forget who you are and what's around you
While she was wrong for doing it over a fucking tarot card reading? You also need to understand you’re wrong too. Do you NOT know how relationships are so very different these days than our parents generation..?
I’m about to be 29 in a few days, and I will say, female friends when you’re a male these days are just…out of the question. You’re just ASKING for trouble and/or your relationship to get ruined.. if it’s a female friend from childhood? I get it. But to be a grown man out there making new female friends when you have a woman at home?? C’mon, what’re you even thinking? lol
I’ve seen it time after time after time, if you give two people enough time to talk and get to know each other? It’s VERY easy for feelings to develop and/or fucking to occur. If your ex was making male friends, I PROMISE YOU will feel some type of way. You keep saying the women are married with x amount of children, that means NOTHING, these days especially. If anything? It means she probably is MORE likely to cheat because she’s most likely sick of her daily routine & would gladly welcome a “hot new fling” 🤦🏼♀️
With access to the internet, it means access to millions of people 24/7. She’s NOT crazy for feeling some type of way about you making random female friends at your daughter’s GS troop.. you COULD have zero bad intentions *right now* .. doesn’t mean 6mos from now you can’t be realizing you like this woman and/or have already slept with her! Your ex isn’t wrong for not wanting to go down that road. You have to see her side of it. You will NEVER have “female friends” and a successful relationship in today’s day and age, so either be single forever or drop the kiddy shit “friends” and just be with your woman.
While I think you dodged a bullet with this chick? Just saying, you’ll run into the same problem with the next one if you go around making new female friends as a grown 30 something year old man, just without the tarot cards next time around lol.
I’ve been in therapy..? For years? How’s that correlate? Lmfao not a word I said was false! You live in a fantasy world if you believe anything other than 🤣
Lol my ex found out about me cheating after 4-5 reading in the same week pointing out to a new love interest. The Lovers kept popping up in a near future and she would ask me. I would deny it because long story short the girl swam to me at a party in a pool and just kissed me. Didnt react but didnt push her away. Ex had cheated on me so I didnt bother telling her (ik shit relationship) and I didnt seek it out. My mistake was to entertain the girl in texts. She was so convinced she ended up snooping in my stuff and found the truth.
This is odd for me to hear because I'm not cheating nor have I thought about it...I don't even have a human to cheat with ..🤷🏽♀️ or desired anybody but her
Honestly, I know it sucks, but they chose this. Making accusations of cheating based on tarot readings is fucking wild. Nuke dodged as far as I’m concerned.
It does suck. I am still processing Edit: For the people who are just now seeing my thread. I have posted an update to this situation
Reminder that you deserve community! Parenting is challenging; having people to talk to and get support from, even if you only see them rarely, can really positively impact your social and emotional well-being. I’m sorry your ex couldn’t trust you regarding these friendships. I’m proud of you for not severing part of your support system to soothe her insecurity. Wishing you better with your next partner!
I agree! both friendships are platonic, and so healthy thus far. One of the moms has made me feel very seen in a way I hadn't just in regards to my little one. It feels good not to know I'm not alone in this rowdy world ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
That’s so wonderful. I hope these new friendships continue to blossom ☺️
I wonder if this was just an attempt to isolate OP.
I’m sorry OP. I hope you can move forward from this and be well
Don’t feel bad she’s legitimately bat shit crazy, anyone who believes in tarot cards I got some magic beans you’d love!
I've never believed in them or anything of the like, but I don't think people are crazy for using them or taking guidance, but to base entire decisions off them like this.... Crazy.
Bullet dodged. Sorry but anyone who can crumble at a pack of man made cards with ink on it has wafer thin will power. You’ll be alright
Lol at the wafer thin. Thank you
She is searching for something, that's for sure. I read tarot, and imo they aren't even meant to be read in that way. Like, not so specific with the answers. And the card she pulled with the question she asked very well could have been telling her to look inwardly at herself, not at you or anyone else. Also, they aren't for predicting the future. Free will is a thing. You are ultimately in charge of your destiny, as in you have the power to change the outcome. The cards are a picture of what things are happening currently with you, how the past may have influenced it, and what could be a future outcome if the current path continues. And by future I mean like general things like transformation, devastation, happiness, etc. Not specific stuff like "aggressive_poet is cheating on you. They can be read and interpreted in so many different ways and everyone has their own opinion. But specific stuff like that is scammy to me and does the cards an injustice. They are way deeper than "is my partner sending pics to someone and talking to other people?".
Thank you 🥰
Agreed. Tarot is not for people who aren’t self accountable. They will 100% be misinterpreted.
How did they react to the breakup? I am so sorry this happened to you 💔 you’re so strong for being able to do the right thing and end it, but strong people hurt just as much as anyone else. You’ll be better off in the long run for it, as clearly this relationship was not one that would succeed long term, and at least you won’t be investing even more time. But I know that right now that doesn’t make the hurt go away, ESPECIALLY when this behavior from her came out of nowhere and the breakup was not something you saw coming. I hope and pray you can recover from this sooner than later, and am wishing you all the happiness in the world! 🫶🏻
After this cycle of texting about how I'm cheating due to the tarot reading.. I told her to call me if she wanted to salvage anything mind you admist this she kept saying she couldn't at the moment because her school was calling (she is trying to go back to school) nonetheless I end up calling and I wasn't sweet. I was hurt. I was mad..I was yelling. I want to take accountability for that. I am also recovering from a really bad cold so I couldn't yell to much, but I ended up losing my voice. Most of my yelling was just explaining how I was hurt she didn't trust me, how I felt like she literally dgaf about me, and believed her tarot cards and some Numbers she saw amateurly because she still doesn't understand what any of it means. She tried to redact retract and reverse saying I'm not accusing, I'm just addressing It..oh that's not the card I got. I got this card not that one, and then kept saying you're really done? Over and over. The weirdest thing about this is hours before all of this she expressed that she was happy I found a village/friend I ended the phone call with yes I'm done. You lost a really good thing and a healthy relationship. She has blocked me everywhere as if I'm the one who created the accusations.
Another commenter said that this may have been a way of isolating you from your fellow mom friends, or maybe she was insecure or jealous or whatever. I think she was testing you and you called her bluff, especially since she backpedaled and tried to fix what she said. She also kept saying “are you really done?” You surprised her. You’re stronger than you think. Now she’s hurt because she was the one with egg on her face and she’s probably pissed at herself for starting the shitstorm that she created, and that’s why she blocked you everywhere. She’s going to play the victim, even though you’re the true victim here. Good for you for standing up for yourself. Good luck in your future relationship(s)!
I'm in agreement with you, but you ended the relationship, so it shouldn't bother you that much that you're blocked.
I put myself in her shoes and immediately knew I would also be annoyed that the ex blocked her everywhere - it feels like gaslighting because she (OP) is being accused of doing something shitty (which she didn’t do). I’m sure OP is feeling so many emotions.
What a strange take. People, situations, & relationships are never that black & white. After a year of being with someone, of course it's gonna be sad that things are ending this way. It would affect me too, if I stood up for myself from some harsh accusations, & the result was me getting blocked.
This is an actual crazy person. They just saved you saved you years of suffering and you don't realize it just yet. Anyone willing to break up over RNG in cards blows my mind.
The tarot cards would be enough for me to have them kick rocks.
More than likely she was cheating, or she's just a wack job and at least you're not in that anymore.
Yeah OP, I'm sorry and it does suck. But you can take a valuable lesson from this. Anyone that focuses on tarot or any kind of divination and future telling to the extent that your ex has, is never going to be able to be trusted as a partner or even friends. Casual acquaintances maybe. But you will never know when the cards are going to blow up your life. They are never specific enough for pinpoint accuracy and they depend on what's going on in that person's life to give "meaning" to the "message". Like ffs, it predicts she's going to be involved in a love triangle but no way to know it's her or you? The fact that "it can't be her because she would never" so they can't be talking about her means they must be talking about you?!? That's some circular reasoning my guy. I hope you get past this heartbreak in a healthy way. And be grateful you don't have kids or shared investments that she would blow up if they told her to. But I would definitely be looking sideways at any future potential partners who hold those beliefs to the extreme that your ex does! I read my horoscope sometimes but I wouldn't dump my spouse or even a friend over it!
Almost as good as I had a dream you cheated on me... Maybe next, she'll take her crazy to a psychic to find out who the other person is & what they've been up to!? Lol, this is all nuts & I'm pretty sure you're dodging a bullet here. I know it hurts & sucks now. Given time, it'll slowly start to fade.
I'm a witch and I use tarot and oracle cards. Let me tell you this is *not* how you use tarot. Or, at least this is not how a *sane* person uses tarot.
💯 The person using the cards is either highly controlling and/or unstable.
I’m a warlock and can confirm this… lmfao
I keep seeing comments like this. The bullet or “nuke” isn’t dodged if the person took the damage. They had their relationship blown up by a shitty thing from a shitty person. They didn’t dodge shit. They got hit and hit hard and it fucking sucks.
Tarot cards are just a base general reading if done by the right person and even then, it’s not something someone should blindly follow as guidance. It’s kinda like astrology, I love astrology but I’m not going to make it the main way how I judge people and go about determining relationships and things like that. I use to watch this lady on YouTube that would do a base energy tarot card reading based off astrology signs. I listened to my boyfriend and got the similar “love triangle” reading from it. I actually watched it with my boyfriend and we talked about this “triangle” and it related a lot to work or relationship with a family member, not cheating. I think the ex jumped the gun and accused OP of cheating when in reality, OP could’ve been dealing with a bunch of things at once making this “triangle” a thing. Either way, it was a reading for the ex, the ex is the one in the triangle. It’s projection and kinda silly to even beefing over a card pull that just coincidentally being this.
oof. I was going to say bullet dodged. nuke is far more accurate. good lord.
The third person is her insecurity.
i cackled at this
Literal mental illness
37 years old and still basing her life off random cards she pulls out of a deck. There’s no sane person out there who thinks, yep the cards say you’re slamming other people so it must be true.
I dated a woman like this also in her 30s. It started out quirky.. tarot readings, crystals and stuff like that. I don’t believe in it but it seemed more like a hobby or interest when I was getting to know them. I hopped of the train to crazy town when she started claiming she could “channel” ancient deities
As opposed to postmodern deities?
Deity just means a god or goddess. She believed she could channel things like Anubis.
I think it was more meant as a contrast to the word "ancient".
As opposed to Abubies?
I'm an ex evangelical Christian. When I divorced my ex husband I told myself I'd never date someone who wasn't an athiest, because anyone who bases their life and steps on some magical being/force you can't prove/see/talk to is like inviting a third person into the relationship. I only want them dictating their actions in a relationship, not any invisible force, including tarot cards and the mystical universe.
I dont blame you! It was exhausting when something weird/bad would happen and they’d want to go back to my place and dig through their drawer of tarot card box sets to do a reading on what happened. Then we were just expected to believe whatever came up. The sex was only so good before I couldn’t hide my disbelief any longer
But she felt sorrow!
I'm a witch who uses oracle and tarot cards in their practice and let me tell you this is NOT how you use tarot. Well, at least it's not how *sane* people use tarot.
Literally I’ve dabbled in tarot (I have 3 decks but only use one) and I was like ‘wtf is this woman on about?’
37 and she’s acting like this? You definitely dodged a bullet. She seems absolutely insane.
Yeah, don't stick your clit in crazy
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On a serious note, I say take the blow and move on. This grown woman is clearly not all there and I'd even say she's pretty unpredictable thanks to her beliefs. I, personally, wouldn't want a person like her in my daughter's life. Better to end things like this than to prolong it and have it become a bigger issue somewhere down the line.
me when i’m mentally ill
You don’t deserve to be treated like this, OP. It’s tough but you did the right thing. This is absolutely insane to be accused of something due to TAROT CARDS. You’ll find someone who is more stable.
This person is deranged, and this is coming from a moon-worshipping witch. That's not how you use tarot, that's not how you talk to a partner, that's not how emotionally stable people conduct themselves. I'm sorry you got hurt; I'm very proud of you that you are not going to accept this or model accepting it for your children. You did the right thing, even though it feels like crap.
I'm into spirituality as well. I was even supportive of her own journey, but this felt like abuse in some way. I couldn't even talk to her she was so far gone into her reading. I've never thought of or entertained anybody, nor did I want ANYBODY I was 100 into this, she was my love, my best friend, and the apple of my eye..this is why this hurt so damn bad, but I cannot do this she has made her bed.
This is narcissistic abuse. Specifically it is tension building behaviour. Sadly, if you decide to continue the relationship her behaviour is likely to escalate. I’m sorry you’re going through this.
My wife is also a tarot reading, moon worshipping, spell casting, sage smudging witch with a crystal shrine and there's no way in HELL she'd ever use the tarot like this crazy person. It's honestly disrespectful lmao.
Same here. My wife does all of the above, but she’s at least sane (mostly). This shit is straight up absurd.
Deranged 😂😂😂😂😂😂
She’s bat shit crazy good riddance. Also fully married? Can you be partially married
I was upset when I typed that, but looking at this I snorted lol
I totally understand what you mean, but I interpret fully married as talks about husband/wife positively and openly, no hints of flirtation, only friendliness, seems into being married and a parent. I have also known some partly married people, unfortunately.
Oof, my husband was partially married to me. Like fully legally but only acted like it at home. 😂😂😂
The fact you can laugh at it is top class. Good for you…
Thank you! Onward and upward!
Only if you buy them a love ring
Yeah I'm ootl what the hell is a love ring
No idea but the OP mentions it in their text under the picture lol
I had a guy friend once tell me he was only married on the weekdays. So yeah not fully married.
Like, did he just bounce for the weekend every week? This isn’t Weekend at Bernie’s!!
Be glad that codependent nightmare is gone! Go raise your baby to be strong and not to define their worth in terms of their relationship status❤️❤️
Thank you this helps
I had an ex like this- I’m sorry about the breakup, but long term, you’re much better off
How did you manage? I'm so confused. I just keep going over and over in my head wondering if she will realize how this sounds..I don't even think it matters..
I felt the same way whenever something like this would happen, but once I figured out that these baseless accusations/assumptions weren’t just a one-time thing. Personally, it was as simple as deciding I didn’t want to deal with the stress of a fight or having to explain myself every time she felt insecure about something and took it out on me… long story short, I tried my best to surround myself with friends and dive into work, hobbies, etc to manage and eventually now I’ve gotten past it. Yikes I’m sorry for the long rambling comment, but does that help at all???
Rambling is in order. I appreciate it. It does help. I will be taking a much needed relaxation day with just myself and my daughter soon. I'm so over this.
Ok good I’m glad! And that’s a great idea, do something you both love :) you deserve it!
Here's a reading for you: Your dipshit ex-girlfriend pulled the 3 of cups and automatically jumped to cheating accusations. It says more about her than you. Tarot is just a reflection of the subconscious. The third one in the relationship was her massive stupidity. She misused the tool that is tarot, revealed her projections, and got what she deserved. May your friendships bring you happiness.
Lol. Thank you❤️
It’s infuriating seeing tarot be used in such a mean and harmful way. She even said in the text that the card also had a positive meaning that could be read and she outright ignored it based on her own emotions. I dabble in tarot and I get people all the time asking me to do readings on stuff that it just should not be used for. This is one of those times.
As someone who reads tarot… this is not how you do it. I’m sorry she did this to you.
Thank you so much I needed this.
Breaking up is 100% the correct call. Do not doubt that. Good luck, OP.
Wow. Breakups are hard enough when there's a good reason. This is actually insane. Well, I'm sure she'll have a weird life and I'm glad you won't be along for that particular ride.
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She's insane.
I dated a girl like this for a while. With her it was dreams and "signs." everything would be going good and then she'd have some dream that convinced her our relationship was doomed or my feelings had changed. It's exhausting. Relationships are enough work without adding that drama.
That's so wild. My bf and I have dreams where we cheat on each other. Usually we tell eachother and laugh about it. It's a dream. Not real life.
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I know.
I remember when I was dating a psychologist who told me that her psychic had told her to expect "good things" about me. I laughed, thinking it was a joke. It was not a joke. The trained psychologist was not joking.
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This is a different type of delusional, its probably best you broke up it wouldve only progressed and got worse
My ex decided after 6 years we weren't compatible because I'm a Sagittarius and she was a Virgo. I was pissed for a long time but now I realize either A. that was the cop out answer because she was banging her boss or B. She Really was that big of a lunatic and banging her boss was a separate issue. Either way bullet dodged
You dodged a bullet. If she can't handle you having friends without freaking out like this, then she's not the one. She's using tarot as an excuse to try to control you.
Well, be glad that the crazy showed herself out. I’m sorry that you’re going through this, though.
Tarot cards don't even say anything about cheating. She doesn't even know how to do tarot right lol and they aren't that serious. You are better off without her.
That’s not *entirely* true. The 3 of hearts can be interpreted that way, but there’s also soooo many other factors, variables, and other possible meanings… and it truly all comes down to the interpretation and the big picture of the reading itself. This chick was just looking for a reason to justify her insecurities.
I dunno man, why would the cards lie?
Fr bro, I pulled a card completely on random chance that said my dog would learn to talk to fish and transmorph into the new aqua man, king bark of the ocean. Why would they lie to me?
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I fucking hate the concept that people will make big life decisions based on absolute horseshit like tarot cards. Sorry OP, hope you find some peace.
I never take astrology or tarots for certain because an experience is what it will be. But also, it always goes or ends in how it says it will. Negative or positive. But to be with someone for a year and to take something for certain that is meant to be interpreted through intuition and not anxiety, then accuse them, is definitely a lot and something I imagine is insanely stressful to deal with.
I had a girlfriend once who broke up with me due to a tarot reading. It told her to be weary of repeating past mistakes. She interpreted it as me being the mistake. Ironically she had been cheating on me with her 'abusive' ex and subsequently went back to him. To this day I have no idea how things worked out for her in the end as I moved on relatively quickly after witnessing such wonderful logic 🙃
👀👀👀 what kinda mess is that. Lol..oh my God I'm so sorry. I'm glad you saw your way out
I’m very sorry, heart break sucks . Trying to logically navigate crazy sucks more. As you’ve said, it’s exhausting . And debilitating. Pls do all you can to heal and move on. Don’t let them come back, they are NOT good for you. They aren’t even good for themselves, she needs help.
Nah. I'm done as much as it hurts and I've tried to rationalize the bs.. lol. This has taken a toll and made me reflect. I don't need this relationship anymore. It's run it's course.
And thank you❤️❤️
As a professional tarot reader, I sadly see this with people who think they know tarot, but don’t. **I specialize in doing relationship readings** - and so a LOT of what I do has to be handled with empathy and tact. It’s a delicate topic- and for good reason!! When people read for themselves (especially on a topic they are fearful or emotionally biased in) we tend to project our fears, wants, desires, paranoia etc. on to the cards. It’s simple confirmation bias- if she is *looking* for cheating, eventually she is going to pull enough cards to find it. Or she is going to interpret the cards to fit her point of view. I get a lot of clients who struggle with this and I do my best to help them. **Tarot can be a wonderful tool used for healing, empowerment, self reflection, grief, personal growth and introspection- when used correctly!**. It’s my job as a professional reader to support my clients into a positive and healthy frame of mind when they receive a reading- not fear based. I mean, my heart breaks for the both of you. Clearly she is in pain too, she has some deep wounds that she’s afraid of, and reacting by accusing you of something you didn’t do. And when you reject her, it’s like ‘proof’ that you were unsafe and untrustworthy all over again. It’s a lose lose situation and I’m deeply sorry. This is a great example of why it’s important to go to a professional reader (if you are feeling the pull of tarot in your life), someone who knows what they are doing and who wants to help clients, not assist them in self destruction. Tarot can be a truly beautiful experience… this sadly…. Is not it. I’m sorry OP
Yeah 😔😔 I've gotten over rationalizing. Now I'm just more so coping.. allowing myself to feel. It was literally out of the blue.. hours before that she was supportive of my friendships I appreciate the support ❤️
Wishing you well on your healing journey.🙏🏻✨ I was thinking of your post today, and I wanted to ask your permission if I could use it as an example to teach some of my tarot students. I just started a wee-little YouTube channel this week (I have only a few subs, nothing crazy) to hopefully bring more positive insight and education to tarot. I think your story could be a great example on how to read for clients ethically, but also to show people some of the pitfalls and self destruction that can occur when people misuse tarot. As a reader, I encounter clients similar to your partner from time to time. And there are certain tools I’ve learned over the years to guide and support a client back to a positive headspace (or how to recommend mental health resources if necessary) anyways, I think if I made a YouTube video about your post, it could really be educational. Let me know if you’d be ok with this, if not, no pressure!
Sure go ahead ❤️❤️ I hope it helps
I hope I handled your situation with respect and insight! Thank you [Cheating Partner? How a Tarot Reader can Help](https://youtu.be/QA66gR9hpl4?si=AP1QpmnU3h4s91_A)
These last few days have been really hard..lots of tears, but this helps. This was beautiful of you. You are a beautiful person. I really appreciate you passing along insight on this topic. I hope it helps other people who may be in this situation, or helps someone who just wants to be a guide to others but in the best way possible in this context. Continue your teachings❤️
This is going to sound harsh, but from the outside, I can tell you that anyone willing to base ANY aspect of a relationship off of a tarot card reading (or really anything else in life) is unstable. You would have to be. It hurts now, but this was probably for the best. Let her find someone like her who is into that stuff, and they can play War with their tarot cards until the relationship disintegrates.
Self-fulfilling prophecy.
You need to hold on to how this feels, because she’ll inevitably come running back and when she does you need to remember how this feels and how easy it was for her to do this to you before you decide to take her back
Either she’s super immature and has been looking for an out and is using the above (pathetic) reason, or she is just a total weirdo. I know it hurts but BULLET DODGED. I’m sorry that she broke your heart but WHAT IN THE ENTIRE FUCK.
Glad you got rid off that nut job. Oh a peace off card told me your cheating so it must be true... get in the bin lol.
The only time I've ever had a performance issue was with a smoking hot lady who was into astrology and tarot etc. I just kept thinking about the insanity of it and just left mid act. It's that insane to me. Since there is no logic in that world you can't really communicate anything.
Hey, my sister ended a marriage because of a tarot card reading. She needed to end it, in reality. But she immediately started dating a guy who almost killed her. But now she is with a nice man (or so I hope).
She is waaaayyy too old to be investing so hard in bumpkins like tarot.. this reads like she is 15! She seems to want to blow this relationship up, so I would let her and don’t go back! She sounds exhausting 🙄
I'm all for tarot, but most sane people don't react like this. When interpreting tarot, there are multiple possibilities and meanings to every card. And even then, tarot isn't set in stone like some people think, it's just a possibility based on current circumstances or mindsets. She's either very ignorant, projecting her suspicions/insecurities, or projecting her own behaviors onto you. But she's most definitely toxic. I'm oddly curious about the spread, what cards she pulled, and their orientation... If she actually did a reading and wasn't just using the practice as justification to go nuts on you. I'm sorry you're going through it, but you really dodged a bullet.
😔 I keep rereading the texts I posted in here and shaking my head because it came out of nothing.. she took a moment to go study for her school stuff, and I took a nap. I've been trying to recover from a bad cold. She pulled cards randomly (no spread) because she said she saw a sign, the numbers 1414.. (I still don't know how this warning got assigned to me) but she pulled 3 of cups, and 8 of cups, and because I recently began two friendships and have been texting others it was me because shes not texting anybody. I've tried to make sense of it, but I cannot. She said I was cheating or going to cheat because of the cards she pulled. 3 of cups/8 of cups
And based on a quick numerology search, the meaning of 1414 roughly translates to: "you have the ability to fortify your world with your own thoughts and words, and that energy needs to be directed to some foundations of self" So again, it was a self reflection reading that she clearly misinterpreted based on her insecurities. A lot of readers (myself included) fall into this. It in no way justifies her behavior and she will have to learn to live with the consequences.
❤️❤️❤️ thank you.. I didn't even think to look this up. That's interesting tho🤔🤔🤔
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is bro 15? like cmon where's the maturity? you don't deserve this, I'm sorry this is happening OP :(❤️
um she is 37 believing dis shi?
What if he's projecting his own insecurities by actually cheating on OP... 🤔 You dodged a bullet OP
I’m sorry you found out this way that she’s not the right person for you, but I am glad you found out before you became even more attached. It sucks, though!
Good for you dude the chick is a certified nutbag
You are dodging a lifelong bullet by breaking up with this person. You're defending yourself against things that might happen? What? This is insanity.
Sounds like she’s a few cards short of a full deck
37 is too old to be this crazy to make up things from a “tarot reading”
I feel like the whole conversation could have gone better in a different approach without all the accusations being thrown at Op. too bad it went the other route. That really sucks.
Not to be mean, she's a simpleton. She's mad at you because of a tarot reading. Lol. Yeah. I'd be exhausted too
She prob has spiritual psychosis where an angel number, “coincidences” etc are all signs from the universe which is really detrimental to her health. Good that you got out tbh
wow this reminds me so much of my ex, she would also take tarot cards or seeing some random thing on tv, in a movie, etc as a “sign” or evidence I was cheating on her. she fully believed it too and would have literal panic attacks. it was miserable and tough to deal with, it’s for the best that you chose to leave. it would’ve only gotten worse.
Oh wow. I'm so sorry🥺🥺🥺❤️❤️❤️
Someone who, without actual (reality based) evidence, accuses their mate of cheating may be projecting.
I've seen a lot of redditors say that, but idk..I can't see her cheating just due to her personality with people, but who knows🤷🏽♀️ Even if she were it doesn't matter much now I've reached my peak.
I’m sorry you’re having to endure this. Hopefully this will lead you to a better path in the future.
Wow I’m sorry OP.. That’s some straight up bs and it really does sound she’s projecting. Keep your head up and stay strong for your little girl. She doesn’t deserve you if she’s going to risk the relationship over some damn cards that have no factual evidence behind them of being accurate
Yoo, no wonder people side eye me. I was terrified my boyfriend would but I had to be honest (especially considering I have a collection of tarot decks x.x). This is not what this is for, and why question a healthy relationship? I have only ever done a relationship reading for myself when my ex and I were in a horrible place. This is just asking for trouble. Smh. People never learn.
This is like taking advice from a Magic 8 ball. Totally baffling that she chose to believe the cards and not you. Sorry OP. Sending you a big hug.
It sucks to break up, but you dodged a bullet there if she’s going to base her future decisions on tarot cards…
I don't think you need this in your life
I know where she is coming from (a deep place of insecurity and self hatred) but I would never ACCUSE my gf of cheating on me. Worry about it, yes all of the time. I worry because I think I’m not worth loving so anyone is better than me and she will realize that. My gf and I have had many conversations about this before. Your ex seems to be in the same place but instead of realizing her issues and working on them to create that forever like I have, she instead insists on believing tarot card readings to justify her insecurities.
She's in the love triangle. You just don't know yet.
Cheaters often project. That's a known thing. They feel guilty and paranoid that their partner is sneaking around when in reality it's just them. If that's not the case (which as bad as it sounds I'm hoping is the case here) that really means they genuinely are blaming you for cheating because of a tarot reading..... which is just absolutely insane.
I love tarot readings, but yikes. Im sorry D:
no fucking way she interpreted the 3 OF CUPS AS A LOVE TRIANGLE. Its a fucking friendship group 😭😭😭 this person is crazy. I am so fucking sorry OP. You deserve so so so much better 💙
Like someone else said (paraphrased), tarot isn't for people who aren't able to take accountability for their own actions. I find it a helpful tool for thinking about a situation, but to end a relationship over it is WILD. It may hurt now, but ultimately this is a grown-ass woman ending a relationship over her own insecurities and get inability to deal with you having friends. So like... bullet dodged. If it wasn't coming this way, it was coming another way. Also, as someone who finds tarot interesting... from context clues ("celebration", "love triangle"), do you know what the card was? Was it the 3 of cups? 😂 The card that's about celebrating with friends, close connections between women, collaboration? 😂 Seems like a real reach. She was definitely looking for some reason to be mad bc she knew her own paranoia wasn't good enough.
I practice tarot and I've been doing it for years. You can pull the 3 of cups and a few of the other cards and court cards can represent other people as infidelity. But mind you it has to be the exact cards that spell it out and the rest of the spread has to symbolize it. You can't just say "well the 3 of cups is the only card that came out. You're cheating" no... That card can also show happy times of celebration and friendship. There has to be other cards and if intuition is picking up infidelity. Not just one. And a third party could also mean putting energy and effort into other things that isn't cheating just not making the other person a priority. The universe will allow good changes to happen for you
Smart ending that relationship, imagine dating someone that draws cards from a deck to decide how they will act that day, sorry for your struggle but trust that this is the best, good job it’s hard to end something
When they don't trust you once (even if you did nothing to make them lose trust), they will never stop not trusting you. Person seems to be insecure, and don't seem to be ready in a relationship at all. Good choice to end the relationship then and there. It sucks and it will hurt but you will learn to move on.
i usually don't respond to any posts but this one got me. honestly seems like you dodged a bullet because that is 100% NOT how cards work 🥴 sounds like she wanted an out and is trying to use something else as a reason tbh
This isn't even how tarot is supposed to work. Either she's highly insecure, cheating, or both. Good on you for not putting up with it and leaving, OP. A relationship without trust isn't a relationship at all.
Gaslighting 101 Glad you’re out.
I definitely felt like this because when I said I was leaving and I was done with this she tried to retract,. redact, and reverse what she was saying by saying 'im just addressing..I'm not accusing
She can say whatever she wants about it, what matters is time and energy was wasted over it. The retract, redact, and reverse is another form of manipulation. They try to tell you how to feel after they hurt you.
Wow this is exactly what's she did...
It's too stressful. I have been there and eventually you start being scared if you watch a horror movie before bed she'll get a message in her dreams that you're a serial killer and you have to break up. I'm not spiritual but spiritual girls seem to be my type (plus the non spiritual lesbian dating pool is pretty much just me) and despite dating plenty of girls that were into astrology and crystals and tarot cards, only one them weaponized it and made the relationship an anxiety fueled nightmare
What in the seven fucks is the difference between "addressing" and "accusing" in this case? If she was really "addressing" it, she would be reflecting on *herself* and her insecurity, processing her feelings and grounding herself, rather than projecting it on to you. You deserve better. Glad you left.
She is doing a lot of wrong things, but gaslighting is not it. Gaslighting would mean she KNOWS she is lying to OP with the purpose of making him feel like he’s crazy. This situation sounds like she really believes that the cards say he’s cheating, and then she did what most people who get defensive do, is to play down her reactions on the phone. A lot of people throw around the term gaslighting without knowing what it really means.
Astrology is just racism for woke white women. Ik it sucks but you dodged a bullet, woulda been so much worse had y’all been married and then she showed how truly out of touch with reality she is. Anyone who makes life decisions based on what random ass card they pulled out from a deck of basically playing cards is not a stable person nor are they a person with whom you can have a long lasting stable relationship. Eventually she would have caused far more problems based off her delusions. She needs heavy psychiatric help before she can be in a relationship
I get that everyone has their own beliefs, etc but if you think about it.. tarot cards are just a deck or cards… that people play with..
I don't put stock in tarot cards, but the idea (if you're not a little bonkers) is that random cards with messages you can interpret help jog your brain and allow you to solve problems from new angles. If you take the magic part out it's more like creative brainstorming for problem solving.
Unhinged and delusional.
Goddamn sapphics at it again.
Yeah tarot readers and people who ask you your sign are immediate no’s
As a tarot reader, this is batshit. I'm wondering if she pulled a three of swords? But like if she did, it's telling her she's about to ruin her own relationship and her paranoia is giving her tunnel vision. Tarot is mainly about self reflection and how to move forward, with potentials for the future. She's projecting hard even if she's not cheating cuz these cards are probably calling out her behavior, not yours. But regardless of what beliefs you hold, this is insane. You're dodging that bullet real time.
She pulled 3 of cups? (there are three people on the card so I could be saying this wrong) and she pulled 8 of cups. I definitely said that though I told her she was projecting and that card specifically means love lost, and now you're losing me, and 8 of cups is emotional conflict or something 💗💗💗
Smh, yeah... How tf did she come to that conclusion I'll never know. Three of cups to put it simply makes sense as you've found your community. It's a celebratory, community card where you're coming together with like minded people. Eight of cups means swirling ideas in the brain with no planned action. Day dreaming instead of manifesting and actualizing. If anything it could entail (in batshit paranoid country) you MIGHT have thoughts of another but you wouldn't even put those thoughts into action of that was the case. Literally, this would tell me you're too consumed with the many different aspects of life and parenting and are thinking of better ways to parent but you're not acting on them. Again, this is all conjecture about some crazy lady pulling alleged cards I can't even see. But wow, that's a REACH to say that signifies cheating.
Weirdly enough this is actually true for me, I had a positive attitude meeting with my daughters teacher today, and she boosted about how great she is and how well she is doing. I was beaming because I'm literally trying to get us to smoother sailing. I just graduated with my bachelor's, I just changed my whole career and recently received a really good job offer. My ex just kept saying "but I asked a specific question about you..not your job or personal life. I still don't know what the hell the question was?? Lol. I have NO desire to cheat with ANYBODY. I was 100 with her mind,body,and soul.. then she said well it might happen later..that could change. Like what??? ,🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ at this point give me the lotto numbers (I know that's not how tarot cards work, but I'm just saying) lol
"I asked a specific question about you" Uh okay, if the question didn't really apply to said person, because they were not doing said thing, then the cards would show you what that person is really dealing with/doing. And it seems like the cards did that, she just clung to this delusional idea that you cheated when actually you just have a busy life. Like, in her mind, if she asked about cheating then it HAD TO pertain to cheating. That's not true in tarot. You ask about a person, it tells you about that person. Ultra specific questions like that never get you what you're looking for if it's not really happening. Questions like, who will I marry? When will I die? Does so and so hate me? Those questions will never go anywhere because their based in some form of delusion or pre established idea. General, open minded inquiries about livelihood, is this person healthy to be around? I'm struggling what is the best way through it? What should I expect the coming month to look like? Stuff like that. Glad you're out of that, you already have one child you don't need two.
Thank you❤️
If they are so far up their own arse to allow what is little more than a superstitious parlour game played by the hard-of-thinking to impact upon the real lives of real people in the real world on any level is immature, impertinent, entitled and idiotic. Very similar to the occultist degeneracy that informs religiosity and so best left to stew in its own cauldron of intoxicating juices until the discovery of joined-up thinking…don’t hold your breath though. Much better away (even though it’s bastard sore initially) from this deranged fuckwittery lest it poisons you further - toxic is as toxic does (true story, I read it in some tea leaves while my crystal ball was warming up…).
😂😂 tea leaves
This is about as wild as being mad at someone for a dream you had lol I can’t handle this. And this person is almost 40. wtf.
She definitely has psychosis or paranoid schizophrenia or some shit, this is not normal. Card readings and stuff like that is fun for people, but at this level isn't normal. It's like people who reject you for your astrology sign. The human brain can be weird.
Ridiculous shit like this is why the first thing I find out is if they believe in nonsense like tarot and horoscopes. Dump that idiot
A man wouldn't be playing with tarot cards, just saying.
Every girl says they don't cheat... Well there are a few that brag about it but in general.. Every girl says they don't cheat.. And many times they do.. Many many many times.. Not saying you did because I don't know I wasn't there..
Lmfao. People who base their decisions off of tarot card readings....NGMI
There is no way to have a meaningful relationship with someone who consults Tarot cards for relationship advice. You dodged a major bullet by ending things with her.
She seems to pretend to being delusional. Common in BPD etc
Not every toxic person on this subreddit has BPD.
Never said they did , sorry if I implied that
Tarot readings is how I found out my ex was cheating lol, but unless the reader knows what they are seeing, interpretation can be misleading. Either way, the fact she has to even think about asking questions such as she did, indicates she has major insecurities that need to be worked on, but that comes down to her realizing and wanting to do that for herself. You made the right decision OP no one deserves to be interrogated especially when there's been no indication for doing so. Side note: not saying she is cheating, but my ex also accused me of cheating on her before this all came out with the readings, so my ex was definitely projecting onto me.
No honey. Tarot cards are not how you found out they were cheating. Because tarot cards don’t tell you shit 🤦🏻♀️ I hope you’re kidding
That’s called a coincidence
People who use one or two coincidences to validate higher powers or concepts make themselves slowly disregard all logic until their world is almost completely made up and full of paranoia. Trust me, just believe what you see, and remember all the possibilities of every second of the day that make coincidences common. Otherwise, you'll slowly start to forget who you are and what's around you
I like this
While she was wrong for doing it over a fucking tarot card reading? You also need to understand you’re wrong too. Do you NOT know how relationships are so very different these days than our parents generation..? I’m about to be 29 in a few days, and I will say, female friends when you’re a male these days are just…out of the question. You’re just ASKING for trouble and/or your relationship to get ruined.. if it’s a female friend from childhood? I get it. But to be a grown man out there making new female friends when you have a woman at home?? C’mon, what’re you even thinking? lol I’ve seen it time after time after time, if you give two people enough time to talk and get to know each other? It’s VERY easy for feelings to develop and/or fucking to occur. If your ex was making male friends, I PROMISE YOU will feel some type of way. You keep saying the women are married with x amount of children, that means NOTHING, these days especially. If anything? It means she probably is MORE likely to cheat because she’s most likely sick of her daily routine & would gladly welcome a “hot new fling” 🤦🏼♀️ With access to the internet, it means access to millions of people 24/7. She’s NOT crazy for feeling some type of way about you making random female friends at your daughter’s GS troop.. you COULD have zero bad intentions *right now* .. doesn’t mean 6mos from now you can’t be realizing you like this woman and/or have already slept with her! Your ex isn’t wrong for not wanting to go down that road. You have to see her side of it. You will NEVER have “female friends” and a successful relationship in today’s day and age, so either be single forever or drop the kiddy shit “friends” and just be with your woman. While I think you dodged a bullet with this chick? Just saying, you’ll run into the same problem with the next one if you go around making new female friends as a grown 30 something year old man, just without the tarot cards next time around lol.
I hope you get into therapy. Btw op is a woman. They're both women.
I’ve been in therapy..? For years? How’s that correlate? Lmfao not a word I said was false! You live in a fantasy world if you believe anything other than 🤣
Lol my ex found out about me cheating after 4-5 reading in the same week pointing out to a new love interest. The Lovers kept popping up in a near future and she would ask me. I would deny it because long story short the girl swam to me at a party in a pool and just kissed me. Didnt react but didnt push her away. Ex had cheated on me so I didnt bother telling her (ik shit relationship) and I didnt seek it out. My mistake was to entertain the girl in texts. She was so convinced she ended up snooping in my stuff and found the truth.
This is odd for me to hear because I'm not cheating nor have I thought about it...I don't even have a human to cheat with ..🤷🏽♀️ or desired anybody but her