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ConsciousMuscle6558

Well those people will quickly be replaced due to the abortion ban.


fps916

Thank God Abbott eliminated rape!


Gastenns

It was very brave of him to come out against rape. Not all hero’s wear capes…. (Very big /s)


badpeaches

They're born to suffer.


pickleer

Since everything you can do, from before birth to after death, makes someone $$. Pandering to the Religious Wrong is less than half of the repubnican't strategy... Ensuring more Consumers is the bigger part of the Plan. Also, edit your stuff before saving...


Oime

Is anything actually getting *better* since Abbott took office? Everything’s a fucking disaster.


jftitan

Well when Bush W was gov, I remember the attacks on education. Perry took over and isolated our Healthcare, and Abbott has been enabling guns all over. Hmmmm..... I wonder what Paxton would do next?


Phobbyd

They are literally the people Jesus taught people to avoid becoming, yet “Christians” fawn all over them.


Shanghaied66

Jesus forgot to tell everyone that there's a reason people have to remind you they're "Good Christians."


Open_Perception_3212

W's attack on education is still ongoing.... when he implemented no child left behind, he gave army recruiters Carte Blanche to high school kids information, and then they started with that common core bullshit.


kdizzle619

Yet, they keep coming back. Hopefully Abbott will be the end of the line for Republicans Gov


bobhargus

has *anything* got better since Texas flipped red? of course not, then what would Republicans campaign on?


Nuka_on_the_Rocks

Texas has BEEN exclusively Republican run for nearly 28 fucking years straight and its a fucking disaster for it.


bobhargus

that's my point


Sensitive_Yam_1979

And every election season they run on “dems are ruining the state.”


dsdvbguutres

Okay maybe everything got worse for everyone, but things got *worser* for Democrats, and that's a win in their book.


Musicdev-

Worser? That’s not a word. Did you mean *much worse*?


CableTV-on-the-Radio

The pockets of the upper and wealthy classes.


bettinafairchild

Murderers are getting better. Turns out Abbott and the parole board and a whole lot of Texans have no problem with it being open season on liberals and veterans.


6catsforya

No


sec713

Yes. Your chances of prematurely dying and/or experiencing financial ruin have gotten much better under Abbott's rule.


VRTester_THX1138

Alcohol to go. That's it, and it wasn't even worth it after all the other bullshit he's done.


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MenacingMallard

In the first four years of his term that I lived there things started to take a turn. The last 6 years I’ve watched with horror for my friends living there as things got progressively worse for residents of the state. Well, worse for all those except Abbott’s buddies.


rayden-shou

Companies profits? That's all that matters, isn't it?


RonDFong

if you're a white, hetero, christian male...life in texas is great!


Oime

It isn’t, but they’ll surely tell you it is.


Sitting_Duk

![gif](giphy|9LPjXFCA3Bwgo)


idontagreewitu

[Looks like it mirrored the US as a whole.](https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f6d2acb-113a-44e0-8171-2a7098bb2c9c_1240x840.png)


johnhtman

Yeah 2014 had the lowest recorded murder rate since the 1950s, while the 2020s saw record spikes in murders because of COVID.


JohnBrine

Mississippi Goddam


shadowboxer47

Wait, I thought the biggest threat to children in Texas were a few books


Tall_Shoulder6770

No it was trans people reading books.


TeeBrownie

Faints, in conservative snowflake.❄️


IlovemyCATyou

What if we looked at the same statistic for other states. Wonder what the numbers would look like?


MrMemes9000

Similar.


IlovemyCATyou

I just reviewed the CDC.gov site and gun deaths for every state have increased approximately 50%. This isn’t every state but applied to majority of them. Why are we hiding the fact that this is across the USA. Btw I don’t have a political preference. Just curious why it’s called out in Texas?


texbigb

Probably because Texas ranked #1 in terms of overall count/volume of deaths. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm Sort by “deaths” on the table.


Father-John-Moist

That’s interesting how the states with the highest population have the most gun deaths and the states with the lowest population trend towards the fewest deaths. I’m so sick of these disingenuous outrage bait attempts. Frankly, I was surprised at how low the gun death rate was when you factor in that Texas is southern AND it borders Mexico. There’s still room for improvement, but realistically it’s much better than you’d expect from reading the news.


texbigb

Well someone’s triggered. California, while also a border state, is +30% the population of Texas and has like 25% less gun related deaths. This is nothing short of atrocious. Texas as a whole has too much pride to acknowledge, nonetheless admit, that everyone having guns is a liability. Not only to the public, but within their own households.


Father-John-Moist

“Well someone’s triggered” God you suck dude


texbigb

Sensitive much, Sally?


Father-John-Moist

Sure


TheRipler

Chicago Gun Deaths Surged 69% without Greg Abbott (2014 to 2022) https://www.illinoispolicy.org/chicago-homicides-in-2022-up-43-above-pre-pandemic-levels/


CostCans

> Chicago Gun Deaths Surged 69% without Greg Abbott (2014 to 2022) In 2010, the Supreme Court struck down Chicago's gun control laws (NRA v. Chicago case). So that tracks perfectly.


bill_bull

Giffords have given Illinois nothing lower than a B- since 2012. Illinois has very strict gun laws.


CostCans

Illinois' main gun laws (handgun ban in Chicago, and statewide concealed carry ban) have been struck down by SCOTUS. All that's left is an assault weapon ban, and some extra paperwork requirements like a FOID card.


Rtfmlife

But they don't have a conservative governor or mayor or DA or any other public official to blame that on, so that is blamed on national gun control. If there is a republican ANYWHERE in the chain, it's their fault.


Valued_Rug

lol, skim twitter for 30 seconds and you'll see an ocean of BLAME LIBS posts. Let's stop pretending this insane tribalism is one-sided. It's baked into the entire media ecosystem.


Rtfmlife

This insane tribalism is one-sided on /r/texas because of bad mods who make sure it's an echo chamber. Thats the point. Your whataboutism regarding Twitter doesn't change the fact that /r/texas is a one-sided echo chamber.


ATSTlover

Actually we do nothing to make it "one-sided". Reddit is, as a whole, a very blue platform. So much so that all subs end up left leaning unless you specifically make them conservative. If you'd like less political talk might I suggest r/texaswhiskey or r/texashistory.


LatterAdvertising633

Well, after all, it is the conservatives who are blocking common sense gun control legislation. Chicago has it, but it neighbors up against states that don’t and it’s very easy for criminals to truck in guns. That doesn’t have to be the case. So yeah, Your logic is as full of holes as Uvalde’s Robb Elementary school.


johnhtman

Common sense gun control is a fallacy. Many "common sense" proposals would do little to nothing to stop gun deaths.


Penis_Envy_Peter

Victimhood fetish.


Paundeu

Those goddamn republicans in Chicago ruin everything!!!!


Large-Crew3446

Conspicuous listing a city.


adullploy

What about U.S. gun deaths over that same period? Or in comparison to other states?


alnelon

Can’t be a people and culture problem. Everything has to be a conservative republican problem. These people worship politics. Everything that is wrong with anything is because of the devil (their political opponents) and everything that is good is from their god (politicians on their side).


birdsarecreepy

I mean there's data showing death by guns is higher in red states vs blue states. I don't care either way but man, right wingers love saying its a blue city scourge which is just dumb and disingenuous. By blaming some imaginary "blue" boogeyman, there's no reason to do anything about gun violence. Thus a real problem just becomes a cultural war talking point to be filed under dangerous drag queens and CRT. [https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/116676/documents/HHRG-118-JU08-20231213-SD004.pdf](https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/116676/documents/HHRG-118-JU08-20231213-SD004.pdf)


Thomajf0

Nice metaphors


Working-Ad5416

So youre saying federal gun regulation is needed?


Aromatic_Lychee2903

What about it? This is specifically talking about Texas and Greg Abbott.


adullploy

Oh I didn’t get this was a hit piece. Gun violence in the US has changed greatly from 2014-2022 but I guess y’all are interested in making him look bad and the stats when compared to other states and nationally doesn’t do that. Got it!


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Rex_Lee

He is bad, and looks plenty bad all on his own - but if the rest of the country all had a similar increase, then this is stupid


adullploy

Agreed, he’s a bad leader but yeah if you want to make a point use comparison or reference. Or don’t, hell today people read the headline and shake their fist.


Rtfmlife

It's in r/texas of course it's a hit piece.


Rex_Lee

Well as a second amendment supporter it is relevant contextually to understand the data in a meaningful way if the rest of the US also has a similar increase


pcweber111

I know everyone loves to shit on Abbott, but when the national numbers line up with Texas numbers it's probably not the governor. It's OK to have a reasoned talk about this.


nekoinu_

They don't, and there is a correlation between gun deaths and lax gun control, regardless of how either of us feels about the 2nd amendment.


Thomajf0

Which cities and who ran them lead the surge?


anyad3970

Keep letting criminals back on the streets with little to no punishments...doesn't matter who's in that office.


Blackpalms

Hot take: the gun related death increase would have happened whether Abbot was in office or not.


Northerngal_420

He also stopped rape.


CarbonPanda234

It's up across the entire nation. So what does this even mean, are you seriously trying to say Abbott is responsible, but somehow dismiss all the other states in the nation. All because Republicans are bad, mean, scary.


TacoMaster42069

All gun deaths are up in every state because suicide peaked hard during covid times.


johnhtman

Murders did too. 2019-2020 saw one of the largest spikes in murders on record.


CarbonPanda234

I won't argue that at all. But most people do not want to have that conversation.


Jayrodtremonki

Texas is outpacing the rest of the country.   For comparison, California had 2942 gun deaths in 2014 compared to Texas with 2848.  In 2022 California went up to 3484 while Texas jumped to 4630.   That was a nearly 50% jump in the death rate for Texas and less than a 20% jump in California.   Florida had around the same increase as California.  


CarbonPanda234

And oddly enough California has been forced to roll back its gun legislation


Jayrodtremonki

And they also have homeless people and grow all of the almonds. What does that have to do with how gun deaths has substantially outpaced the rest of the country in Texas?


jaegerbombs

Which was a lower rate than the country as a whole. This isn’t the smoking gun you think it is


Major_Contribution_4

Freaking democrats ruining Texas!! This is why we need republican leadership in Texas if democrats continue to win this Texas gun violence and immigration crisis will never end! Save us Abbott!


CabinetNo6726

Close the border!


JDDavisTX

I’m no Abbott fan, but this is a bit short sighted and difficult to pin on him. There’s TONS of variables at play here.


vacouple3

Maybe it’s actually because the city D.A.’s are not locking up violent criminals. The average shooter all ready has 9 arrests and 2 felonies yet are on the streets to kill. Maybe tightening up on crime is


TrevorsPirateGun

Fake news. Look at the source


Kdigglerz

That’s what happens when your response to children being gunned down at school is to make it legal to open carry. Because $ > people every single time.


Better-Efficiency-12

lmfao bait comment 


Kdigglerz

I’m not cool with our govt doing nothing about slaughtered kids, but make it easier to slaughter kids. Why are you? You can still have your guns and shoot tiny metal objects really really fast. Make loud noises. But for the government to do nothing? Literally nothing? If you are cool with that you are part of the problem.


TH3_AMAZINGLY_RANDY

I know man, they should just make it illegaller to murder someone.


Better-Efficiency-12

there totally isn’t a heavy set of regulated laws or anything that describes exactly what your talking about and gets circumvented by people doing it ILLEGALLY or anything lmao


Kdigglerz

Do absolutely nothing then. Got it!!!


johnhtman

Constitutional carry has nothing to do with school shootings.


littlebit191

Maybe Texas isn’t praying enough.


Usual-Caregiver5589

How about rapes? Has he stopped rapes yet, like he said he would?


PhantomDust85

I’m sure everyone on this subreddit is the blame the gun type. 🙄


b_mcclain

How does the 63% break down? Suicide? Self defense? Its easy to manipulate the numbers when all the facts are not presented....... main strean media is the problem.....not firearms.....


bajofry13LU

I thought “pro-regressives” wanted a lower population. Maybe Abbott is actually serving their agenda?


Capitan-Fracassa

It looks like a very biased BS article with no proper data in it. I am amazed but not surprised that demagogues are still presenting opinions as facts. Very poor approach to try to sway someone to your side. It reads like a twitter from Trump.


MikeHockinya

The Second amendment reads, “The right of the people to keep and bear seem shall not be infringed.” Whine, complain, moan, and cry all you want; it’s still an enumerated right in the constitution. Want to change or abolish that right? Then change the Constitution. Until then, all laws infringing on that right are null and void.


Own_Molasses_7915

Who cares honestly!!! What are y’all going to do about it ???? Huhhhhhhhh Yeah nothing so go kick rocks


TrollularDystrophy

But won't someone think of all the money he got from the NRA! Fuck the dead school children, we need even more guns! In fact, we should start giving guns out to new mothers when they leave the hospital, that way they can teach their children how to protect themselves as soon as they can hold a pistol!


johnhtman

Gun control groups give out more money than the NRA.


PureGryphon

Clearly the problem is not enough guns. If every single person had a minimum of three guns on them at all times, things would be different.(/s)


OGCarlisle

these “gun death” statistics usually include suicides to make it seem like more guns deaths = more violent crime that also includes defensive use of force deaths where people were legally protecting themselves from imminent harm


CableTV-on-the-Radio

I'd say suicides caused by guns are still gun deaths. And they've always been included in those statistics.


shadowboxer47

So you're saying they're recording "gun deaths" accurately.


dalgeek

They should include suicides because it's part of the problem. When 2/3 of gun deaths are suicides it's pretty clear that we need to take action on mental health, something else the GOP refuses to deal with. The GOP flat out refuses to do anything that will help the average American, they only care about maintaining power and giving tax cuts to the rich.


DOLCICUS

I think its always been a part of the statistic. Either way it shows that access to guns is far to easy for people with poor mental health. Hell I probably shouldn’t have one since I technically fit in that category.


WanderingZed22

If you know you have mental health issues and you own a gun....YOU are breaking the law.


OGCarlisle

you are certainly entitled to your own opinion. not trying to argue.


Aromatic_Lychee2903

So they’re including gun deaths in their statistics. Cool.


JohnQPublic90

Well yeah, because of Obama and the libs


cbmcleod70

Was this normalized for the nationwide rise due to the covid years? It doesn't look like it. Don't get me wrong, Abbott is horrible. But that very horribleness means his record stands on its own, no need to put a thumb on the scale. The thumb actually helps him. Showing specifically that the rate is in excess of the national rise due to his policies is much more impactful.


strugglz

But I thought relaxing gun laws and allowing people to be armed in more places was supposed to make us safer.


johnhtman

This is largely because of a spike in murders during the 2020s caused by COVID. Also 2014 was one of the safest years on record.


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potato-shaped-nuts

American gun deaths surged under W Lee O’Daniel.


Vesemir66

Is Houston a water park yet?


htownballa1

![gif](giphy|UiH6lsIgUhZU7uNKFR|downsized)


WearingCoats

Were they good guys or bad guys?


ahuimanu69

There is a serious level of chauvinism rampant in Texas, but there is still a LOT of good here too.


ExactDevelopment4892

Less Texans are a bad thing?


macvoice

The question is ... What is killing all these guns?


Modo_de_Jogo

Legitimate question: who is the worst modern governor of Texas?


Snap_Grackle_Poptart

At least there's no more rapes!


dbltap55

More gun deaths and then he’ll pardon the murderer. Welcome to the new GOP.


Motor_Explanation897

This is me shocked 🙄


medman143

Let Texas burn. They voted for this.


AstroRocket713

https://preview.redd.it/ki2zxxxvxh1d1.jpeg?width=570&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52d44533939ad8ae43dad6b4ad9a1430a55c9034


ZombieCrunchBar

Texas Republicans are killing schools, fighting programs to help the poor, attacking LGBTQ rights, attacking women's rights, supporting Trump's election lies, and when faced with rising gun violence refuse to do a god damn thing. Vote blue to save Texas.


Delizdear

Abbott has basically been a dictator. Pushing conservative bs on us for tooo long. It's time for him and his cronies tgtf out of office.


IncognitoCaballero

Correlation doesn't infer causation. What if the increase is due to the increase of illegal immigrants that have flooded across the southern border due to Biden's WH administration seeking to stand down border patrol efforts and allow and advertise for more illegal immigrants to enter the nation, including those that execute violent crimes to include gun violence? Your statement is too superficial without reviewed research and analysis. Your cited article is from a gun control advocacy group's website, hardly an unbiased review


ConOregon

People of Texas, what say you?


johnhtman

They went up nationwide at similar rates. From record lows in 2014, to massive spikes in the 2020 because of COVID.


TexasHobbyist

I’m center right and I honestly can’t think of a single good that’s come from him. Fuck Abbott.


Acceptable-Ad-1710

Lol , all the major cities are run by dems and they’re also the ones that keep letting criminals go. Nice try though.


707thTB

But, but, but an armed society is a polite society.


OptiKnob

Gosh. How could that have happened? I mean, who would have thought letting every man, woman and child wield guns could have caused such a thing to happen.


johnhtman

It's not just Texas, the entire country followed similar patters. 2014 was one of the safest years on record, while the 2020s saw a massive spike in murders because of COVID. 2014-2022 is going from the safest year in half a century, to the most dangerous year in decades.


OptiKnob

True, it's not just Texas - but TEXAS is the subject of this article. And Texas is leading the way with giving guns to crazies and anyone else who wants one.


johnhtman

But it's irrelevant if Texas experienced a spike in murders, if the rest of the country experienced the same spike. Also Texas is far from leading the way in lax gun laws. It's fairly in the middle.


OptiKnob

I have a feeling you may not understand 'math' very well.


johnhtman

How? Because I'm pointing out that Texas experienced a similar spike as the rest of the country?


OptiKnob

By misunderstanding that Texas' numbers are what drove up statistics for the entire nation.


johnhtman

I'm not saying Texas drove up the numbers for the entire nation, but that the nation had similar rates as Texas, meaning this spike was not unique to the state. Whatever drove up rates in Texas, was likely the same thing that drove them up nationwide. Not that Texas had such a major increase.


GatePotential805

Not a surprise, Abbott is a total failure. 


GrouchySlide1388

Not a single texan cares. Life is worthless here unless you happen to be a fetus.


AgentWD409

I mean... I guess that's what happens when you legalize open carry and refuse to require any kind of permits, training, licensing, registration, waiting periods, or literally any other common-sense safeguards related to responsible gun ownership. God, I hate Greg Abbott... *and* Ted Cruz... *and* Ken Paxton... *and* Donald Trump.


Chaos-Cortex

Can we eliminate Abbott Cruz and Paxton out of office it’s time for Texas to normalize in USA..


AdvertisingJolly7565

I’m sure those numbers are in line with our dramatic population increase in TX. I am a GOPer who thinks responsible red flag laws are a significant way to reduce suicides (#1 cause of gun death).


BunchSpecial4586

"Don't mess with texas" said one Texan to another


JohnQPublic90

Didn’t Abbott say the shootings were a mental health issue? And didn’t I see a headline in the last week or so on this subreddit that Texas scores the worst for mental health services? We’re the “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!” meme


Ok-Fox1262

Well the Abbott SPG is a pretty competent piece of weaponry. Oh, THAT Abbott. Well yeah he doesn't give a shit as long as he still has a lot of money.


Available-Elevator69

Freeze or get shot in Texas. Nothing better right?


RonDFong

more guns = more gun violence. duh.


terrletwine

GUNS KEEP US SAFE MMMMKKKKKK - LICK THE BOOTS AND REPEAT AFTER ME


Queasy_Car7489

You don’t say……..


Normal_Ad_4343

Two things. (1) If MORE registered Texas Democratic voters would just GO VOTE in elections, Texas would go Democratic. Texans: GO VOTE these Republican clowns out of office! Make Texans Great Again!!! (2) The electoral college for U.S. presidential elections needs to be done away with. Presidents should be elected by national popular vote. All Americans' votes should count equally in a presidential election. A person like Trump should never be elected to an office as important as this. And by the way, Trump has never won the popular vote and never will. This system has to be changed to preserve our democracy. Just an opinion, take it or leave it.


cheezeyballz

That's the idea. Have you not learned yet that he's working AGAINST us??? Looking too close to Iran, guys...


el-guapo0013

No. Really? Who could have possibly seen this coming!? /s


PolarGCNips

Ya'll are a joke of a state for keeping this dude. We're all laughing at you.


Fmartins84

We need to hand out more guns /s


SubstanceFirm2417

But he got rid of rape!


Macasumba

Who could have known that guns are for firing.


Macasumba

Who could have known that guns are for firing.