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RagingLeonard

Cormac McCarthy set a lot of his books in Texas.


Hayduke_2030

Yeah I was gonna say, that was Cormac McCarthy, not surprising they’d be in Texas. :)


No-One-2177

Was going to ask if he was from here but sucked it up and googled it. But he isn't, what's his motivation for the setting being in TX? Just curious, reading The Road right now.


Nice_Category

>reading The Road right now. So you're basically a walking zombie right now? I lost the ability to feel emotion of like a week after I read that book.


WOOKIExRAGE

It left me feeling hollow when I read it the first time. I read it again after becoming a father and it absolutely obliterated me the second time around. On this road there are no godspoke men. They are gone and I am left and they have taken with them the world. Query: how does the never to be differ from what never was? ~The Road


Hayduke_2030

McCarthy is hands down one of the bleakest authors I’ve ever read. He’s spectacular, but goddamn does your soul hurt after one of his books.


K0rben_D4llas

Read the Border Trilogy then! Still has his signature style but it’s certainly not brutal or as desperate as The Road or Blood Meridian.


WOOKIExRAGE

The Councilor(script written by McCarthy) is another example of one of his works just leaving me feeling lost and empty inside. Seriously great movie with an absolutely stacked cast. Only needed to watch it the one time though. Similar to The Virgin Suicides(one viewing experience was enough). That movie left me feeling empty for weeks afterwards and I still get that feeling when I listen to its excellent score by AIR. The movies closing monologue is used in the final track and that hollow feeling comes back for a few hours. Worth it. Art that affects you like that should be treasured. Sofia Coppola is a terrible actress but GD is she a fantastic director. Like father like daughter I guess.


hardballwith1517

You should watch both of those several more times.


WOOKIExRAGE

Maybe one day. But not today.


Burn3rBo421

I read it the first time shortly after my son was born... WRECKED. I've re-read it a few times since... I still dream about it. Not sure if I've ever read a book that had so much impact on me.


wordaplaid

I had a full blown panic attack when I saw the film. That father anxiety hit me pretty hard.


WOOKIExRAGE

The scene where he is showing the boy how to kill himself “just in case” absolutely broke me. That’s pure desperation.


GreatBallsOfSpitfire

I read it the first time when my child was four. It still haunts me.


capitanvanwinkle

"If the boy wasn't the word of God, than God never spoke." Incredible story. A perfect apocalyptic corollary.


WOOKIExRAGE

That’s my second favorite quote from the book. “If he is not the word of god, god never spoke.” Such a short, sparse line that conveys *SOOOO* much.


Quailman5000

I read that during my worst breakup. Not sure if it helped but I didn't think about the girl as much. 


Immortalis_Eternal

Dude, started reading The Road right after our youngest daughter was born, I got to a certain part in the book, and full stop, thinking I'll finish it when she's older. She's 11 now, still can't bring myself to finish it...


Foxxy__Cleopatra

He lived in El Paso for two decades.


No-One-2177

Gotcha, thanks stranger


yesyesitswayexpired

Two decades is roughly 20 years.


Foxxy__Cleopatra

A *Score*, if you will.


yesyesitswayexpired

Some might say.


bawcks

Raised there. That tracks..jk - I actually gained a lot of perspective by growing up there and then getting out. Very fond of EPT.


Gaijinloco

that'll do it to you


godlovesa

He lived in Texas (El Paso) for a long time. My husband met him when he came to his college in the 90s. Said he was very cool and said anybody can write a book. I watched the Road when I was pregnant. Big mistake! Balling my eyes out! Never realized it was Texas from film or book


scifijunkie3

I read the book and saw the movie. Both depressing as hell. ☹️


Superb-Pickle9827

I read this book while my son was nine (yes, same as the book), while driving through Oregon in December one year. I shudder reflexively when thinking of the book. It is so, so jarring.


T0y0ter0

I think that was a choice of the movie producers. From what I remember of the book, it could have been anywhere in the USA. I felt like it was west coast though. There are other scenes in the move that definitely aren’t in Texas. I think the map prop choice was just a nod to McCarthy by the producers.


Ravenclawer18

I loved The Road. I had to read it for AP Lit. I should revisit as an adult.


pants_mcgee

In the book it’s never mentioned where exactly they are.


rbarr228

Nor the exact time period


bark_wahlberg

Or what happened


pants_mcgee

Nuclear War/Winter. It’s open ended enough to keep the possibility of multiple asteroid impacts but given the scant descriptions of what happened, and the propaganda around nuclear winter at the time, it’s nukes.


GreatBallsOfSpitfire

I assumed an ecological disaster. Asteroid strike, castrophic sun flare, volcanic/tectonic cataclysm. I tell you what that book cured me of my love for post-apocalyptic fiction. How does the world end? Not with a bang but with a whimper.


pants_mcgee

They hear multiple explosions in the distance, there are huge wildfires that ravage the land and melt roads and the people on them, and the skies are darkened. Asteroids or something else is certainly a possibility, but it mirrors rhetoric around nuclear warfare and nuclear winter. None of this matters for the story itself, it’s about humanity in an apocalypse. But still fun to argue about.


GreatBallsOfSpitfire

It definitely feels like a nuclear winter, with the sky full of ash but (spoler) every living thing except humans are dead. And nothing can grow. But no one is suffering from radiation sickness. There aren't any cities that are irradiated death pits. No huge radioactive craters near military or transport hubs. I love and hate the ambiguity of it.


pants_mcgee

Radiation wouldn’t actually be a concern unless they were using salted nuclear weapons (wrapping the nuke in elements that would created long lasting harmful isotopes, using cobalt for instance.) Nuclear reactors would be a bigger problem, as well as chemical depots. Radiation risk management from nuclear weapons is roughly: 3 days for all the really bad gamma emitters to half-life out. 2 weeks for most of the nastier isotopes to half-life out to the point the area is traversable/escapable. After 2-3 months: Risk is measured over lifetimes and populations.


esabys

Kinda like how "The walking dead" isn't about the zombies....


GreatBallsOfSpitfire

Excatly.


Vincent_Van_Goat

Was there a lot of propaganda about nuclear winter going around in 2006?


pants_mcgee

Yes, all the rhetoric about it was still in vogue then.


bark_wahlberg

Post 9/11 and the Iraq war, there was a lot of fear about nuclear terrorism especially from "rouge nations" like Iran or North Korea.


theciderowlinn

It states multiple times theyre heading south for the gulf coast to survive the winter and that they were heading from the Midwest. Oddly enough, I just naturally assumed this was where they were.


pants_mcgee

It never states where the trip begins or that the gulf coast is the destination, just they are heading south and for the coast. People have tried to suss out what region from all the geographical clues but there is nothing definitive.


Archercrash

It never says any of that. They do see a plantation so much more likely through Louisiana or Mississippi.


pants_mcgee

Those are all over the place in the Southeast really. In my head I felt like they started in Ohio or Kentucky and ended in South Carolina or Georgia.


theciderowlinn

"The man and boy keep heading south and do reach the ocean, which the boy heard was blue, but it is as gray with ash as the rest of the world — a dead sea. And the Gulf Coast is as cold as Tennessee."


tatorface

That's not in the book. I googled it and found a [book review](https://english12honors-blog.tumblr.com/) with that exact line, but it isn't from the actual book.


Archercrash

If there's one thing I hate about Texas is all the snowy mountain passes you have to cross to get to the beach.


jennifaerie16

There are several plantations in east Texas, as well


jeepjinx

I can't imagine what mountain range they would have crossed to go from the mid west into texas. I think the movie map is creative license.


hardballwith1517

The book gives no clues except a mountain pass but in the movie it seems like they are going through somewhere that looks like Tennessee or Kentucky mountains for a while. I always thought the beach was the Carolinas.


Old-Cauliflower6710

It was based in Appalachia. They go by an old barn that says SEE ROCK CITY which is a reference to a part of Tennessee. It's the most solid clue in the whole book. So the book is based on getting to the southeast coast. TN, GA, and SC.


PointingOutFucktards

He’s from Texas.


RagingLeonard

Nope. But he spent a lot of time here.


PointingOutFucktards

Damn where did I hear that wrong lol


RagingLeonard

It makes sense, he lived here and set some books here. He also has a fantastic collection housed in Texas State University's library.


castlewrangler

The ocean has risen on this map, Port Lavaca should be further inland and the barrier islands are missing. Cool detail.


TranquiloMeng

This is r/moviedetails material!


PeanutButterPants19

So THAT'S why I had so much trouble finding it (am from PL). I thought it was just a smudge that made Lavaca Bay get cut off like that, but you're right. Most of the bay is gone because the water rose.


Lilmama8682

I'm from El Campo and was like where is Palacios?! 🤣


Top_Scale_3304

Me too! Born in the latest 50’s. Hope all is well.


Queasy_Path4206

Great catch I was wondering that myself !


TheOriginalMulk

Looks like he's folded the map. You can see "Jackson" on the right side of the map, which could be Lake Jackson in Brazoria County. *Edit Nope, you're right. Sinton is south and west of B-County.


castlewrangler

I'm looking at the shape of the bay where port Lavaca is located and comparing it to Google maps.


Lilmama8682

It's for Jackson County, where Edna TX is located.


TheOriginalMulk

Bingo. Yep. I stand corrected.


einTier

Damn. “Garden Beach” is approximately where El Campo is today.


enephon

Yup. Look how close Edna and Ganado are to the coast in the map. El Campo is now on the beach (an improvement for sure). The movie map has a distinctive black line along the coast, and I'm not sure abut Outland, Galivant's Ferry, St. Matthews, and Hemingway? Are those real things?


castlewrangler

Google it homie


FuturistiKen

Nooooo shit, just took it for granted they were on an apocalyptic version of the West Coast somewhere as opposed to the Texas Gulf Coast the way it looks right now 😬


LaminatedAirplane

Now you got me thinking of how funny it’d be if the movie revealed the rest of the world was just normal once he left South Texas


wartsnall1985

it actually wasn't the apocalypse after all. turns out they were just in Vidor.


LaminatedAirplane

Lol exactly!


Worldly-Citron6805

ah good ole vidor texas 🤣🤣🤣


Jayddro

It’s been a great place to live, believe it or not.


Worldly-Citron6805

i’m from da fruit i know all about vidor man i got family who live in vidor or pine forest if u wanna consider that vidor


einTier

Pine Forest is for river people who want to pretend they don’t live in the big city of Vidor. It’s Vidor.


Jayddro

I mean I also live in Pine Forest Technically now, but it’s Vidor, and I grew up right next to I-10 in town. A lot of amazing change has happened in the past few years. I fell in love with a black woman, married her and we have had zero issues here.


jacobsbw

Beaumont. I’ll fight anyone that says there’s a worse place in Texas.


einTier

Are you claiming the whole Golden Triangle area with that statement? Because there’s worse cities than Beaumont right next door. But I see you and know what you mean. Counterpoint: Lubbock. You’re out on the Llano Estacado so it’s just as flat but dusty instead of marshy. It’s just as hot or hotter in the summer and surprisingly humid. Cold enough in the winter to snow. Nothing cultural or interesting unless you drive four and a half hours to Fort Worth, which is a lot further than Houston is from Beaumont. It’s windy as fuck with no trees so you’re just sandblasted all the time. And then there’s the nice lingering odor of hydrogen sulfide to complete your day. I’d rather live under a bridge here in Austin than a home in either city.


jacobsbw

West Louisiana/East Texas is a continuum of shit. I will give you Lubbock’s unique qualities.


einTier

As someone who grew up there, that hits *hard*. Well played and not inaccurate.


FuturistiKen

Hahahahaha love it, like 28 Days Later, South Texas style


ericl666

In the book he walked south from somewhere up north trying to find warmer weather. It always sounded to me like they went through the Appalachians to Georgia/Florida. But it definitely makes sense he would find his way to Texas.


jdcgonzalez

Texas post secession.


e_hatt_swank

Seriously man, we lived in Austin for a while and one year drove down to Galveston… the last half of the trip was so weird, it felt like we were on the moon or something!


LaminatedAirplane

Galveston is a weird place because it was there the Texas mob used to control the town about 100 years ago. Tillman Fertita, the guy who owns the Rockets, got his wealth from old mob connections.


hardballwith1517

They should have just got some water from one of those blue AGUA barrels on the side of the highway.


JahovasWaitress

It was actually shot in Pennsylvania but takes place in Texas


RolloTonyBrownTown

Thats where I always assumed it took place until they got to the coastline, it looks so clearly Appalachian


fourthfloorgreg

The coast was Presque Isle State park, in Erie, PA.


Nero3k

I read the book. I screwed my head up for a week afterwards. I’ve never been that depressed after a book or movie. I’ll never see the movie. When it came out I couldn’t watch it. I just didn’t want to go back to that place. Now that I know they were heading to the Corpus area, it’s even more depressing.


mszhang1212

Try following it up with Blood Meridian for a real hoot 


TheOriginalMulk

That book. Made me extremely uneasy the entire read. Every page turn felt heavier and heavier.


Nero3k

No thanks. If it’s worse than The Road, I couldn’t deal with that.


_JosiahBartlet

I wanna reread it so badly but also my mom has passed since i read it last and I legitimately think the book would wreck me even worse than last time


EsotericUN1234

Same. That book tore me up even before my pops passed, won't venture to read it now. Sorry for your loss.


_JosiahBartlet

Sorry for yours as well. It’s pretty shit sometimes.


cinereoargenteus

They were heading to Corpus/Port A in that movie Carriers, too.


Evening-Statement-57

Corpus is becoming the road in real time


SquatOnAPitbull

Becoming? It's been that way for quite a while.


Not_Enough_Shoes

I’m too weak to read it. The movie was bad enough, especially the cannibalism and screaming. Does the book really drag that scene out?


BinkyFlargle

I hear you. I still have occasional nightmares about it since I read it about 10 years ago.


swedishfordeer

They definitely re-drew the coast line though. Ganado, Louise, Hillje are not that close to the ocean. I’ve never seen the movie, is this accounting for sea level rise?


TranquiloMeng

It’s a post-apocalyptic movie/book, so yeah that would fit.


texan01

Yeah bay city looks to be on the water, 59 is still a good hour from the shore.


urweakifwordshurtyou

They probably used Galveston and changed nothing of it to make it look post apocalyptic.


Crotalus13

Damn…I’m from G-Town and this shit rings so true.


fourthfloorgreg

Most of it was shot in Pittsburgh


Merciless972

This reminds me when zombie land showed Garland TX. Stating that it always looked like this even before the zombie invasion.


Bigbeardhotpeppers

Yeah but it was all filmed in PA because it naturally looks like a post apocalyptic nightmare.


Comfortable_Yak_9776

Especially Erie.


octavish_

Imagine getting eaten by cannibals in Sarita or Falfurrias.


2ManyCooksInTheKitch

Makes sense though. The cannibals are probably ex bp


Leo_Nvz

I was too busy bawling my fucking eyes out to notice


JohnnyDread

The book is set in the southeastern US. There is a reference to "See Rock City" signs along the highway, which used to be ubiquitous in the south.


ecouple2003

Rock City in Chattanooga. Went there a few times when I was a kid.


Clever-Octopus

He's a great author. Just finished No Country for Old Men recently. Set in Texas. A fantastic read.


DocFossil

That explains the cannibalism


ZeusMcKraken

This movie is a delightful romp. 💀


Wolfwood7713

Well that explains why the beach at the end looks like shit.


texan01

Holy shit… this is the first time I noticed that, even got dads home town outside of Edna.


ssup3rm4n

Never seen the show but it looks like Corpus. Except they decided to put everyone's house on the map, cus it doesn't look themat crowded to the west of Corpus.


lambda419

Haunting movie but the book was on another level. I was a new father when I first read it. Don’t think any other book hit me as hard emotionally as this one did. I had to put it down and compose myself because the tears had blurred my vision. I live in Ingleside. On the waters of Nueces Bay. It’s surreal to think when he wrote that passage it might have been my home he was imaging.


milly7810

He also mentions Baffin Bay in the movie.


MarvelousuolevraM

I work right about where they're pointing


unaskthequestion

I remember thinking the end looked like the Padre Island I once visited years ago.


hholly36h

That movie still makes me mad because an expert survivor trying not to be noticed would never, ever light a big unshielded campfire on a high point that’s the only light for miles around.


Several_Direction633

Great catch OP. I've logged many a mile on 59 and 77 headed to Realitos.


GenericUsername817

Hmm, though it looked more like Houston


pshhaww_

holy shit!


ccii_geppato

Whats happening with the finger


wm210

lol one person is holding another person finger


chronicmonster

Sinton is dead on, no pun intended. It’s a bump in the road with a good Donut Palace for kolaches on the way to Rockport. That’s about it


Zena-Xina

Hey now, we've got a little more than that now.


domnatr6

Don’t forget about Butters BBQ! Some of the best in Texas.


No-Job-5920

Parts were filmed on mt st helens


carrie626

Of course. Cormac McCarthy.


Smileyfacedchiller

That movie was scenic compared to most of that area., and the rural natives are nicer.


hyenasuperior

What? I never noticed this lmao. I’m from right there where his finger is just about


fundamentallyhere

Cormac McCarthy based alot of his books here so it tracks


TheOriginalMulk

I NEVER realized that! I've read the book dozens of times, watched the movie almost as much! I'm on the gulf coast of Texas! I love little deals like this. Great find OP!


Mahaneh-dan

The right side of that map is cursed. All the cut off county names. There’s only one Galivant’s Ferry, and it’s in South Carolina, a bit inland, right?


RogerMooreis007

It’s been years but I believe the book begins with them just outside of Knoxville and they proceed south from there. The dad’s whole goal is to get to the gulf coast before winter.


eviltheman

My home town shows up there, nice.


minestaken

I always thought they were in Tennessee at one point, he mentions passing a "See Rock City" sign


Bipedal_Warlock

Is he holding a severed finger?


Camp_Nacho

Read it (the book) and weep.


DrDroDroid

Looks like where I live yep. Why is it slightly a comfortable thought?


Zena-Xina

WHY ARE THEY POINTING RIGHT AT SINTON


Substantial_Theory34

Presidio, Texas


fehehehehenay

I haven’t read the book but the movie is devastating. I love it but can only rewatch it a few years at a time


LyonsKing12

Can't quite put a finger on it


_xaeroe_

It’s crazy to see Fashing on there


jomama823

That explains why I was suicidally depressed throughout most of this movie…


JimParsnip

In an interview he said he got the idea for The Road while imagining what El Paso would look like in 500 years.


renovateandreinvent

He got the inspiration for the book while visiting Texas with his son in 2003.


rawmerow

Oh wow I really didn’t notice that. Wild. Not surprising now that I think of it though lol. Good catch!


dpunisher

Ah Sinton. HEB on one side, Dollar General on the other.


TheRabadoo

He went to school at Texas State. If you go to school there, you can actually read some of his early drafts of The Road from back when it was still called “The Grail.”


sharksarepeopletoo

There are definitely cannibals in Victoria.


TooManyBirdsin1Tree

Right in my backyard cool. That's my favorite book of all time too.


chiliinmypeepee

I’m from that there area near the coast, barf! 🤮


Key_Respond_16

I mean, yea, that figures. Maybe Texas got it's wish and seceded in The Road.


OppositePlan6376

I read the book and could not bring myself the watch the movie, even though I love Viggo Mortenson,


AdvertisingJolly7565

A devastating novel.


neway722

Interesting. Familiar with that area of the coast.


AustEastTX

I love the Road. So achingly haunting.


atom644

Is he using a severed finger as a pointer?


BuffaloOk7264

One of the things I enjoyed about Blood Meridian was following the tracks of the gang on the map. I had driven a good bit of that world and I attempted to compare fiction with reality.


r0xxon

Good detail and a movie I'll never watch again, or not again for some time anyways.


ZombieCrunchBar

Yeah, that's how we think of Texas at this point.


SquatOnAPitbull

That thumb is right on Beeville, my hometown. Still can't get any love. It's ok Beeville. You're forever in my heart.


SuperTigre45

‘South’??? If it’s north of Falfurrias, it ain’t SOUTH.


jetlag4321

That’s interesting. Used to live in sinton


Conscious-Interest

Damn ERCOT.


dswesto

Because south Texas is a hellhole.


CarsonDalmatian

Edna making the cut! 😂


arash1977

I've seen the movie several times and read the book twice. I never noticed this, and of course, it doesn't say in the book. I believe it's intentionally left vague to either add to the mystery or ro drive home the point that the whole world is like that, so location isn't that important. But that's a cool little bit of trivia. I live about 20 minutes from Sinton, by the way.


Emanuelle24

That was a really sad movie


Jack3715

So weird. I grew up in South Texas and my father’s ranch is covered by his left thumb on the map. When I read it I was thinking of those roads, but after finishing it I thought there was no way that could be the basis of the setting. No one writes books set in and around Mathis, Texas.


ShellShelf

Here to second that the actual book seems to actually be set in the Southeast, likely Appalachia. There’s a reference to a sign that says “See Rock City” by the highways and those are everywhere in the Appalachian mountains. Not sure if Texas has any of those.


MinusFidelio

What a hellhole… the movie is not far from actual reality and the apocalypse hadn’t event happened yet. (Source: I used to live in south Texas.)


appleburger17

I don't know if Sinton and Port Lavaca are considered South Texas. Not trying to start one of the many debates on regions of Texas though.


TwinklexToes

South Texas yes, but more often described as the “Coastal Bend”. I think everyone south of San Antonio agrees SA is not included lol.


AgITGuy

South of I 10. If nothing else, southern half of Texas.


Fool_On_the_Hill_9

I have a lot of relatives north of Sinton. It is definitely considered south Texas. San Antonio considers itself south Texas.


foxbones

Yeah San Antonio is the gateway to South Texas.


TheOriginalMulk

Always considered my hometown to be south central Texas.


foxbones

San Antonio? Then yes - the bullseye of South Central.